DIY CNC Router - Part 1 Building the Frame

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Making Stuff

Making Stuff

4 жыл бұрын

This is the first video in my DIY CNC Router series. In this video I start building the frame of the CNC Router.
✔️ All of the videos in this series can be viewed here:
• DIY CNC Router - Part ...
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@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
I think this machine is almost too big for my shop! Let me know what you think!
@alexecheverria
@alexecheverria 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! good thing you have a big place!
@gerthalberg9735
@gerthalberg9735 4 жыл бұрын
Nahhh there isn’t such a thing as a to big a machine there’s only to little space
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 4 жыл бұрын
@@gerthalberg9735 yes, an infinitely large surface would be ideal. That way you only need to ever lift material and never have to move it in the X Y plane. It would also mean we only need one such machine on this planet :). Seriously though, if you can fit it in, a full sheet CNC router is the only choice.
@fordkid9472
@fordkid9472 4 жыл бұрын
Cant ever have regrets going to big, only regrets not going bigger
@satxsatxsatx
@satxsatxsatx 4 жыл бұрын
make it rigid down low between the legs, put is on lockable, swivel castors of 2 or more inches diam
@SidneyCritic
@SidneyCritic 4 жыл бұрын
You usually string-line on the side so gravity isn't a factor. You also space the string-line out from the material by an equal amount on each end, that way you can see S-shape bends. Basically if the string-line is flat on the material the hump of a S-bend will hold it up and you won't see it.
@GarrettBShaw
@GarrettBShaw 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the card analogy for the table top being in the same plane. Always enjoy seeing people who are able to explain concepts in terms that everyone can understand. 👍
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@willwade1101
@willwade1101 4 жыл бұрын
My dad was a carpenter and he taught me that string method over 50 years ago.
@abdelrahmanm.mjebril2030
@abdelrahmanm.mjebril2030 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your efforts, could you please explain in separate additional video the used software and the electric connections.
@shaunwhiteley3544
@shaunwhiteley3544 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to watching this build! Cheers
@chrisleech1565
@chrisleech1565 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck with the build ! Tried bringing a 6 x 4 CNC Router frame to a 12 x 12 room for finishing and fitting out but it just stopped any kind of spontaneous work, so progress took a dive. Moved to larger outbuilding ....still working on it You could put that in a number of places given the layout of your shop, but access to feeding it 8ft material is one priority. Just back it up to the wall instead of the wood shelves? For a cheap frame rail straightener you could use ratchet straps to remove the bow while you weld diagonals or even wire rope and turnbuckles. KInda like Buckminster Fuller's "Tensegrity" Using compression and tension members achieve stiffness and in your case dialing in the bow where your linear rail is ultimately going. Or you are into the epoxy levelling debacle. There is but one other method, that of buying aluminum t-slot profile to and fasten to you rails and shim to spec. High tolerances, sophisticated and is great for mounting and adjusting linear rail with dial indicator From what I have learned so far, you will need far more mass (moment of inertia) to manage the simplest chatter-free aluminum machining. Smaller equals stiffer and therefore difficult on larger tables No matter how you proceed you need more support for the MDF, believe me. 12"o.c. Increase mass, stiffness, and reduce chances of standing waves that will make it sing! Consider filling your rectangular rails with epoxy sand. Keep in mind the weight of the gantry with a decent Z axis assembly and its acceleration with a 2,2kW spindle versus the mass of supporting frame Etc, etc We could talk for hours
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input! You have some good points.
@anthonyg4671
@anthonyg4671 4 жыл бұрын
think that's 100 cards to the inch not 10 ?
@b5a5m5
@b5a5m5 4 жыл бұрын
Was going to say, a deck of cards is 52 cards, and I don't remember a pack of cards being 5 inches thick :D
@40mick
@40mick 4 жыл бұрын
The heat from welding will cause more than a 3K deflection. But, you know that. Nice job!!!
@fga55
@fga55 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve looked everywhere for a smart way to level a workbench and haven’t found any useful one. But here I’ve found a perfect way in a cnc making video. Props to you !!
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@mcboomsauce7922
@mcboomsauce7922 3 жыл бұрын
Okay...I was a little pissed, till you pulled out the lazer and told me the playing card shim trick....that shit is gold
@efrenjiuller6972
@efrenjiuller6972 4 жыл бұрын
Gracias por tu conocimiento
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
A great project and I am eagerly waiting for the next installment. I have thought about doing this several times and always back out because I have no place to put it. It would certainly be a fun project though.
@pjak2000
@pjak2000 4 жыл бұрын
Nice project. Geez - I would do anything to have a garage like you have.
@liammiller4758
@liammiller4758 4 жыл бұрын
That is a very good sized table. I wouldn't be able to fig that in my shop. I need a cnc table for my everlast welder and wood router.
@makjehadi2452
@makjehadi2452 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I was looking for such a nice CNC DIY video series. Thank you for sharing knowledge!
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@plasma453
@plasma453 4 жыл бұрын
An interesting build I have built many (more than 10) of these with gradually improving results so will advise accordingly as you go LOL You certainly need to get it as flat as you can to start with far more important than a plasma table. However the machine will flatten its own waste board, the important reference is an even height to the table which that achieves. Timber will bend flat to the table within limits.
@kd6507
@kd6507 4 жыл бұрын
I went through this same process just last month. I also even used a fishing line to figure out flatness/bowing of my square tubes. Both rails had a vary slight bow, I turned the bow UP figuring that gravity and the weight of the gantry might bring it back to straight.
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was hoping the same thing but I turned mine bow down hoping that I could adjust the legs in the middle a little higher to adjust out the bow. However, that didn't work.
@RandomAudioGuys
@RandomAudioGuys 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos as always bubba. Keep up the great work. I always try to let them play full through so it helps your watch time.
@guitar2tube7
@guitar2tube7 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Very practical tips. Especially the playing card idea. Great video!
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@johnward5890
@johnward5890 3 жыл бұрын
The final distance from the Z axis tool tip will be right on when you machine the top of the bed surface. Any changes in the height of the cutter will disappear after the surface of the Table top is machined the first time you use a sacrificial surface.
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes 4 жыл бұрын
I am wanting to build a CNC, not quite as large as yours but the videos will still serve me well!
@Back40Forge
@Back40Forge 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice!!
@Derek_S
@Derek_S 4 жыл бұрын
Is this going to be a "Lowrider"CNC as the logical progression to your MPCNC project?
@JunkWorkshop
@JunkWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Ok. I will wait 🧐
@alejandrohinojosa4215
@alejandrohinojosa4215 4 жыл бұрын
Excelent
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 4 жыл бұрын
This is great. We made one too, the same size but under engineered the Z plane and probably the other two axis and consequently our repeatability and accuracy is horrible. Clearly my mate and I need to redesign and build the gantry. How does one calculate how to make bits stiff enough without turning them into gravitational objects? Something about the mass of the router, height of support structure, material choices etc. No, we don't have or have the knowledge to use finite element analysis or other such hi techery, and our "feel" for such a large structure is just not there.
@rejidomus3013
@rejidomus3013 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting project. Subscribed.
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@heimizhou450
@heimizhou450 2 жыл бұрын
Like it!
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@doubledarefan
@doubledarefan 4 жыл бұрын
Next series: Adding on to the workshop, with all the CNC action to go with it!
@RaymondBelec
@RaymondBelec 4 жыл бұрын
My first build was a grizzly metal mill conversion. I got a Avid CNC router . Table width is important this time, much of the sheet material I work with, come in five foot wide sheets. That extra foot represents big savings if you do much parts nesting. Anyway great job video documenting the experience. It is never wrong to build better ideas. :)
@viscache1
@viscache1 Жыл бұрын
So many people start projects like this not understanding the part that Near-Absolute-Flat plays in the work that the router is going to do. If it’s out a few thousandths and you don’t have any adjustments the end product is consistently going to be ‘wonky’. And if you’re in it to make money…well…customers don’t buy ‘wonky’.
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff Жыл бұрын
That's true, but for most DIY projects, signs, etc. you don't need +/-.0001 accuracy either.
@satxsatxsatx
@satxsatxsatx 4 жыл бұрын
Bob, measuring local squareness at each corner with your little square (don't you farm boys have big framing squares? :) ), but for me, measuring the diagonals for equality is proves the pudding is edible. Another straight measure is 6 ft alu levels, which are quite famous for straightness, showing straightness over 6 feet, and then also when laid diagonally across a corners, levels the table. Poor cats, so many ways to skin them.
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
The sides of the square tube is rounded over. It was hard to show on camera if it was square measuring diagonals. Thanks for watching!
@satxsatxsatx
@satxsatxsatx 4 жыл бұрын
@@MakingStuffDon't measure from the rounded edge, but from the mid point of a tube, or the mid-point of the miter joint.
@darkwinter6028
@darkwinter6028 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a formula for calculating the drop of a wire that’s of a specific size and under a specific load; instead of string I’m going to use fine stainless steel wire and pull it with a 30lb weight. Then I’m going to cook up a gizmo with a micrometer head and a LED that lights up when the micrometer spindle contacts the wire; allowing me to read the drop to less than a thousandth of an inch.
@print_and_game
@print_and_game 3 жыл бұрын
Great Videos, a lot of inspiration for my machine. What are the dimensions of the profiles?
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 3 жыл бұрын
2" sqaure tube.
@mikewood3422
@mikewood3422 4 жыл бұрын
Build looking good. Is this just for wood or aluminium also ? If precision is needed I would not rely on steel tube alone as it is not accurate unless milled flat. To get around this you can epoxy the tops where the rails will go so not only they are flat but also flat in relation to each other. Looking forward to next episode. Take care
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I am hoping to cut aluminum on it too. Thanks for watching!
@minskmade
@minskmade 4 жыл бұрын
nice card trick. smart. great video as usual. mdf is a much truer plane. what controller are you thinking of using? im sogin abuild with a gecko 540 now...pretty nice little controller
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
I've had pretty good luck with the Mesa 7i96 that I used on the plasma cutter. I think I am going to use one on this build too.
@BushImports
@BushImports 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't think it looked like you had room for it,but after you got it flipped over right side up it looks like you have plenty of room. You're right there with it. Is there plenty of room to load and unload a 4 x 8 sheet of whatever you are using?
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
It definatelt fits, I'm just not use to having something that big in the shop.
@mrburns366
@mrburns366 3 жыл бұрын
does it really matter if the table frame has a slight bow as long as the linear bearings, rack and pinion, etc are straight and parallel? like you said, you can plane the plywood flat
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, that's the plan. Thanks for watching!
@pats6188
@pats6188 2 жыл бұрын
Hi What are the right angles you are using with the clamps called please been trying to find them, please.
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 2 жыл бұрын
They are Mega Squares from Fireball Tool.
@thebeststooge
@thebeststooge 4 жыл бұрын
I was about to do a MPCNC then found it not rigid enough. I then was about to get a 3018 then found it wasn't either. Well, crud. I then see 3040 and 6040 can do Aluminum 6061 but really you need to remove the rods and go rails so dang it. What I need is a machine the size of a 3040/6040 that can do Aluminum that is about the price of a 3040.
@johnevans5286
@johnevans5286 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good cnc . Do you have plans for all the parts?
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 2 жыл бұрын
makingstuff.info/Projects/Full_Size_CNC_Router
@Jim-qc6gu
@Jim-qc6gu 4 жыл бұрын
You cannot get an accurate measurement with the tube supported on each end. This is normal deflection!! You can straighten the tube, but it is labor intensive.
@TheDistur
@TheDistur 4 жыл бұрын
Oh the steel store not the Stihl store. lol. Will you write up some approximate costs when you're done?
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've been to the Stihl store too :) I just updated the Making Stuff web site with cost so far on this project. Thanks for watching!
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 4 жыл бұрын
Write it here? Can't visit links from this device
@best49erfan
@best49erfan 3 жыл бұрын
Great Build. What is the dimensions of the Square Tubing base?
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 3 жыл бұрын
It's 2 inch 11Ga steel.
@Building_Bluebird
@Building_Bluebird 6 ай бұрын
This is the first of your videos I've watched. How has this machine worked for you? About how many inches per minute will it do with a 1/4 mill with a 1/8 pass on plywood? I have a Maker made but want a gantry machine to make better cuts throughout the plywood sheet and to cut much faster.
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 6 ай бұрын
I no longer have this machine. Had to find it a new home because we thought we were going to be moving to a new location, but that deal fell thru after the machine was sold.
@baggervance8454
@baggervance8454 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know your concrete floor is straight?
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
It's not. That's why I used the adjustable feet and the laser to get the top of the machine level and in the same plane.
@thesoftwareindustry5004
@thesoftwareindustry5004 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@MrWizards1974
@MrWizards1974 3 жыл бұрын
No matter how tight you pull that string you cant measure that tight of a tolerance against gravity. The string will sag. Now if you turned the setup on its side and checked lateral then you would have a accurate measurement.
@AydoganY.
@AydoganY. 3 жыл бұрын
hello i watch you from turkey. whats your name ? thank you for video. i will build this machine with you ==)))
@nohandscncmachines3804
@nohandscncmachines3804 4 жыл бұрын
Scrap the router and get yourself a water cooled spindle. Them routers will blow your ear drums after a few hours. I know first hand as I made a CNC machine myself. Now cutting metal with em. Besides you get the R20 Collet for them small endmills.
@darkwinter6028
@darkwinter6028 4 жыл бұрын
Uhh... you mean ER20 collet, right?
@cvasold
@cvasold 4 жыл бұрын
Don't put too much effort into getting your frame perfectly flat. In the end its wasted effort. Close enough is good enough. You'll find you'll have to repeat the exercise again when you mount your linear bearings. Thats when it counts. I poured epoxy on my base frame to get a perfectly flat and level plane. That became the reference surface for the rest of my build. Following.
@danielreborn4707
@danielreborn4707 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I has been thinking.More over this does not make sense at all. Gantry is not referenced to floor but to the base frame :)
@neiljensen9585
@neiljensen9585 4 жыл бұрын
If you are using ball screws and linear rail be aware the holes in them and the bearing blocks may not be drilled the same from block to block, I had to redrill mounting holes oversized to get everything lined up. Sbirdranch documents this on one of his build videos. the holes are spaced right but they very on distance from center
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Good point. But I'm going to use a gear rack and pinion.
@neiljensen9585
@neiljensen9585 4 жыл бұрын
@@MakingStuff Just wanted you to know in case you were,it caused me many headaches,good luck with the build I'll be watching
@mcboomsauce7922
@mcboomsauce7922 3 жыл бұрын
You ever hear of the “catenary curve”
@lalshankarsuthar1199
@lalshankarsuthar1199 3 жыл бұрын
I want oll materiyal am home asmbly
@shawnshroff7464
@shawnshroff7464 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please post your material cost?
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
I posted the cost on the Making Stuff web page.
@markyu70
@markyu70 4 жыл бұрын
I am making 1500x1000mm
@Z-add
@Z-add 4 жыл бұрын
Laser beam is too thick. Use an optical level instead.
@danmeuse496
@danmeuse496 3 жыл бұрын
why cant we just go metric already
@stewartfrye
@stewartfrye 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, this is crude at best, good luck,
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 3 жыл бұрын
IT has turned out to be a great machine. Thanks for watching!
@xzevious69
@xzevious69 4 жыл бұрын
Oh you meant steel not Stihl
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Southern accent strikes again, lol! Thanks for watching.
@xzevious69
@xzevious69 4 жыл бұрын
@@MakingStuff no worries sir
@terrymurphy4177
@terrymurphy4177 4 жыл бұрын
Too big
@MakingStuff
@MakingStuff 4 жыл бұрын
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