PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: This video is obviously intended for a DIY homeowner that wants to rinse the light dirt out of their condenser coil. It is not always necessary to rip your entire unit apart if you just have grass and dust in your condenser. Some people do more damage to the units by taking them apart! If your condenser is really that plugged up, call a professional to clean it out for you.
@jec00702 Жыл бұрын
Most DIYers that have any experience at all with projects can do this, and be careful of the fins at the same time.
@TeefMah Жыл бұрын
As a pro I will always wash coils the opposite way the air flows. I guess you could go the other way if you are concerned about dissasembly. It will never be as effective.
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
@@TeefMah I don't think homeowners should take the equipment apart. I'm going to make another video when I find an impacted coil that actually needs disassembled.
@kismyc0untryazz-49111 ай бұрын
@@greasebellygarage most homeowners would perfer to have professionals do the work BUT when the pro's charge out the ass for something this simple it forces the homeowner to try and educate themselves. Do I pay my mortgage payment or hire a pro to use MY water and MY hose for a , 20 minute tops, job cleaning my condenser unit? Okay maybe I'm exaggerating the cost of cleaning the coil, a little bit. I lost my trust in pro when they charged me $600 to replace 2 parts on my condenser unit, that cost $20 each, and it only took the pro 10 minutes to diagnose and replace. It sickens me how money hungry people are becoming. Thank you for the video.
@greasebellygarage11 ай бұрын
This job is really a lot simpler than a lot of the other commenters are making it out to be. You're welcome for the video!
@ralphyboy3856 Жыл бұрын
He clearly forgot to tell us to hold the beer with the other hand.
@jimreilly917 Жыл бұрын
😂
@alejandro69able25 күн бұрын
Hahahaha
@Hulk-mc7bp21 күн бұрын
Very important point!! Thx 🍻
@proverbs2life20 күн бұрын
Not unless it's r22
@HappyTailsSupport19 күн бұрын
Well that's always implied, lol
@moboutmen2 ай бұрын
Another reason to remove the fan is to have access to all the muck at the bottom of the unit, and to clean the drain holes.
@BG-xr5bi22 күн бұрын
Correct
@CognacKidd21 күн бұрын
Why would there b any drain holes? Mine is wide open at bottom I see the pad thru the fan blades.
@moboutmen21 күн бұрын
@@CognacKidd Many models have a metal floor.
@ramosel20 күн бұрын
@@moboutmen His may have already rotted out.
@mikeo889020 күн бұрын
I had to take mine and vacuum out the compost.
@Maynardd22 күн бұрын
I think removing the top depends on if you’re under four oak trees or not. I pull out 6 inches of crap out of the base of my air conditioner every season. Removing the lid is a must.
@greasebellygarage22 күн бұрын
Understood
@user-qw2sv2xj9h17 күн бұрын
@@greasebellygarage HVAC tech states he doesn't remove the top off, because it rattles later on, I have a small amount of leaves will that affect performance?
@greasebellygarage17 күн бұрын
@user-qw2sv2xj9h it'll just accelerate the rotting process but a small amount won't hurt anything. A lot of times they just rot and exit the drain holes. If they get really bad you've got to take it apart and clean it.
@CookieManCookies11 күн бұрын
I keep the leaves for good luck. Perhaps greasebellygarage will DIY fix my air conditioner for free! :D
@greasebellygarage11 күн бұрын
@CookieManCookies lol
@kevinkoestler25 күн бұрын
I am not an HVAC professional, I'm a landlord with 70 rental units - 70 - a/c units. (I have a real pro HVAC guy who has been doing work for me for 15 years. And, he has taught me a lot.) So, here it is. Before working on your condenser, always turn off the electricity to the condenser. Rinsing out the coils with just water does work. However, you need to take into consideration that the coils have fins that are made of very thin aluminum, and they are fairly delicate. So, like the video says, spray perpendicular to the coils. If you spray the coils at angles, it is very easy to bend the fins. Which will result in a bigger problem. Bent fins inhibit the flow of air even worse. (You can spray the coils. Just take your time and be careful.) Also, if you decide to use "coil cleaning chemicals," make sure you follow the instructions. Coil cleaners are some pretty harsh chemicals and, if used improperly, can damage your coils. Also, coil cleanering chemicals are bad news on a human body or any other living creature, so be careful. Personally, I tend to just use water. But, if I use any cleaner, I use a household cleaner, like DAWN, mixed with water... (put it in a pump up spray bottle, saturate the coils with the Dawn/water mixture, let it sit a few minutes, then spray the coils with plain water) something that is safe to use on aluminum. I do not recommend brushing the coil fins to clean them, especially if you're inexperienced. (If you do brush the coil fins, brush in the same direction the fins are lined up, DO NOT BRUSH ACROSS FINS. THEY WILL BEND, AND YOU WILL DAMAGE YOUR COILS.)
@greasebellygarage25 күн бұрын
I am an HVAC pro well I'm actually retired from HVAC now but my family at one point had over 100 rental units. You really learn how to fix air conditioners when you have rental units especially in low income areas. I have cleaned and refurbished some of the nastiest air conditioners that a person could ever imagine. I'm also a huge proponent of keeping old equipment running since the new stuff is just pure junk. I still have six duplexes here in Florida that I take care of and I spray every one of the condensers just like I do in the video and never had any problems. My two colleagues one of which is an HVAC contractor the other has 50 duplexes we all do the same thing when cleaning these condensers. Now occasionally we do come across one that we have to tear completely apart but it's pretty rare.
@Dbb2720 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. I just have a few rentals but HVAC systems are definitely a pain.
@greasebellygarage20 күн бұрын
@Dbb27 you can save the most money on rental properties by doing your own AC work. I still have six duplexes left and I do all of my own work.
@nesmacinvestmentsllc77220 күн бұрын
Great advice. I use to think spraying these would destroy them. I had no clue that you could actually clean them this way. Hey, if you do any private lending I’m in NC and I’m actively looking to do deals in my area in the Triad. Please let me know if you’d be interested in lending your own funds, partnering, or if you’re willing to point me in the right direction. Have a great 4th!
@greasebellygarage20 күн бұрын
@@nesmacinvestmentsllc772 you too.
@OGHVAC Жыл бұрын
44 years as an HVAC technician. This video should be banned. Do NOT follow this demonstration. PERIOD! There are other safe and proper videos that follow the correct way. I'm not trying to bash this guy...just telling you what 44 year's experience knows.
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for not bashing on me. I've been doing this for over 20 years, in fact, I learned this from a guy that has done refrigeration for 50 years, he's retired now.
@mikeDeSales943Ай бұрын
@@greasebellygarageWell if this guy who has over 40 years knows the right way to clean it, why doesn't he just explain it, or does he just want his company to come out and do it.
@colleend2977Ай бұрын
Thank you OGHVAC. Not turning off the power was first thing that worrried me. With double coils on ours, I do the inside and the outside.
@OGHVACАй бұрын
@@mikeDeSales943 I don't own a company to be honest. There are plenty of YT videos you can watch to get the proper and SAFE way to clean the coils. I don't want or need any negative comments regarding my character or experience. Figure it out and please be safe.
@UnknownSource08Ай бұрын
Turn the power off like wtf 😂😂😂
@prepareforchange2062 Жыл бұрын
You should absolutely cut power , remove the top and clean your system from the inside out. Washing the outside of the coil can remove some of the debris but it also pushes debris deeper into the coil and further clogs the coil.
@joey856725 күн бұрын
True, but clean normal, not this dumbass, two to three times a year
@AnUnapologeticApologist23 күн бұрын
So what happens when it rains genius? A little bit of water is not going to do anything.
@SaulVTXFRIDER23 күн бұрын
Rain doesn't hit the fins directly on the sides GENIUS.. MOST of the rain drops on top.. and before you say OH WHAT ABOUT SRORMS .. when it storms with strong winds it will still never be the same as spraying the fins with a water hose @AnUnapologeticApologist
@joey856723 күн бұрын
Just get some damn foaming acid, spray and rinse. I personally like to not have a compressor or fan accidentally kick on , either way let her alone until 3" of ice on inside coils and call an AC dude. Pro tip, leave fan in on position to avoid defrost charge before AC tech shows up. 😁🤣
@AnUnapologeticApologist22 күн бұрын
@@SaulVTXFRIDER Firstly , my comment was about shutting the power off being necessary. Secondly, I've been doing this for years with my own business and have never had the problem you are whining about. Most residential condenser fins are designed so that debris runs right off them when you rinse the coil. You can confirm by shining a flash light through fins and checking head pressure. If the coil is plugged up inside the fins you should be chemically cleaning it, not spraying it with water. I work on commercial refrigeration, condensers that get plugged with grease. I can get those spotless from the outside with the right cleaner. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. You're the type of guy to charge up a restricted system and say it's got a leak
@markshipley1532 Жыл бұрын
Did he say the worst way to clean your condenser.😂
@efini17 күн бұрын
its the best way to clean it
@BMAN81812 күн бұрын
Do not do it this way u can get electrocuted
@Letts_go_brandon8 күн бұрын
@@efini no, no it isnt. Not at all. Terrible.
@thecoolaidman33697 күн бұрын
@@efininot even close. There’s a reason the pros do it how we do.
@ghoffmann82122 күн бұрын
Great demonstration of what not to do. 1. Leave top of unit intact, so you cannot spray the water through the coil reverse fo air flow. 2. Leave unit running. 3. Make sure to spray the hose directly into the coil, so the most amount of crap possible gets permanently wedged between the fins. 4. Make sure you don't spray downward, or clear the drainage tracks/holes in the bottom of the unit. 5. Cash check before the customer has time to consider what a hack you are. Nailed it.
@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure13 күн бұрын
False. I've done exactly this for regular maintenance a decade now. Not a single problem. Now, if the coil is clearly impacted and its an actual service call. Yes, remove top and clean from inside first. Otherwise, these DIY try hard youtubers are doing it for clout.
@greasebellygarage13 күн бұрын
@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure I made this video for my customers that were taking theirs apart and tearing things up and poking holes in their coils. How to demonstration on how to be a professional HVAC technician, which I was for almost 30 years. Everybody's getting all inflamed on here because I'm not showing DIY folks how to do it the professional way. Most of the time for them this is all that's necessary.
@ghoffmann82113 күн бұрын
@@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure I started as an HVAC tech in 2001. If you were taught that this half-assed monkey shit is ok, go find the simpleton who taught you, and demand a refund and apology. Do better.
@jamesstewart256013 күн бұрын
@@greasebellygaragepoking holes in the coils ?😂 doubt that. Learn a skill you hack.
@ghoffmann82113 күн бұрын
@@greasebellygarage Why are you encouraging your customers to do anything but call you or maybe pop it with compressed air going as straight downward as possible? Good grief, man.
@machineryd276526 күн бұрын
I agree for a diy homeowner not taking it apart is best. They will likely damage more than they fix.. BUT. You turn the unit off 1 for safety 2 because the fan will assist in pulling the dirt further into coil.. next you don't spray perpendicular you spray at the steepest angle possible pointing down to try get the dirt to roll off the coil not be forced into it. I don't know much but I've owned a HVAC company for 15 years.
@kylewells687122 күн бұрын
Changed a condenser last week because the homeowners friend took his unit apart to clean and when he went to put it back together he put a screw deep into the coil. 410 unit, quick easy swap.
@greasebellygarage22 күн бұрын
@kylewells6871 yeah I'm largely retired from HV back now because I trashed my knees but I went out 2 weeks ago and soldered a hole hole cuz somebody drove a 1 and 1/4-in long screw through the top of the coil.
@kick157421 күн бұрын
Am I wrong to spray from the top down into it to spray everything off from the inside first seems to work pretty well just asking I have no HVAC experience
@greasebellygarage21 күн бұрын
@@kick1574 no that's fine
@kerpal79 Жыл бұрын
People like this keep us in business 😂
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
My customers do more damage tearing them apart!
@thecrackrabbit9531 Жыл бұрын
@@greasebellygarage reading them? Still true that you should have just pulled the disconnect.
@caddydaddy99612 ай бұрын
Customer to Tech - my ac is not working, I watched a diy video on KZfaq, i washed the condenser coil, removed the electrical panel, and sprayed water on the electrical components... with the power on. After there was some fireworks..what could be the cause for it not to cool ? Ac Tech - reflects on the purpose on life...
@johnsonjay602 ай бұрын
Yep!
@MultiBeast301Ай бұрын
@@caddydaddy9961 You do realize rain falls on these condensers all the time right?
@lancekoller528424 күн бұрын
Seems like that would just push the debris further into the coils. That much pressure would ruin the tinsel wrap over some coils.
@jiveturkey36515 күн бұрын
You can see in the last shot of his video the fins are pushed over, than the video starts over and you see it in better condition before he sprayed it lol...
@joshrichardson953715 күн бұрын
Well it didn't u literally just saw it work
@xXxR3V3NxXx15 күн бұрын
@jiveturkey365 there are literally no fins folded over by the end. That's more than clear to see. You may be taking the damp part and thinking they're folded. That being said, I clean some coils with a pressure washer, and as long as you aren't a complete moron, you won't damage them. If coil cleaning is too advanced for you, just leave it to the professionals.
@lancekoller528415 күн бұрын
@@xXxR3V3NxXx cleaning coils with a pressure washer is the definition of moron.
@liveness200613 күн бұрын
@xXxR3V3NxXx don't be a jerk jeez. It looks like the coils are bent in the last half BUT this is also a low quality video so it's really difficult to see it properly due to quality and distance of the shot. Also Capillary action could be happening or what you said "a damp part". Also for the complete moron comment, a lot people make this mistake of bending the delicate fins. People make mistakes. So next time if talking to people and being polite is to advance stay off the internet and stay home. Being polite and help others 🥱
@hightttech27 күн бұрын
I just had Pro AC Company out yesterday to prep my 6 y/o system for summer. Services included removing fan grill, spray coil cleaner inside my outdoor unit, hose it clean from inside out. Looks nearly new.
@flyneco2224 күн бұрын
congrats lol wtf????
@hightttech24 күн бұрын
@@flyneco22: The point was to anecdotally prove that the procedure in this video is NOT how pro AC guys do it.
@greasebellygarage24 күн бұрын
Some of them do.... including me!
@CR6724 күн бұрын
Right. I used to live in an area with serious lime in the water. You wouldn't want to clean that condenser with water from the hose.
@richardwarfordjr.562223 күн бұрын
My neighbor's never gets cleaned and compressor make noise to wake the dead 😂
@mattalexander8919 Жыл бұрын
Never leave the fan on while doing that!!
@ufcguruofficial Жыл бұрын
Thats BS..what happens when it rains?
@mattalexander8919 Жыл бұрын
When the fan is running it will pull water particles into the bottom bearing housing and cause premature motor failure.
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
Our Florida weather and crappy motors causes premature motor failure anyway....
@matthewcarello928011 ай бұрын
I guess we should all turn off our systems when it rains
@JBra138210 ай бұрын
Why not.
@jimreilly917 Жыл бұрын
This may work…MAYBE…if you do it every 3 months. But if you live in a dusty or high pollen area…if your condenser is in a garden or near trees….or if you haven’t done any cleaning in years, PULL THE DISCONNECT to cut power. Do NOT get disconnect box wet…power is still going to the box…pulling the switch just cut it from your condenser.take off the top…carefully so as not to stretch th wire bundle. Find a condenser coil spray cleaner…you can get at Home Depot. Spray the cleaner to cover the entire fin ps from the inside out. Wait ten minutes. THEN spray the coil w the hose, from inside, out. If coil is particularly furry, remove what you can by hand before the above
@elBusDriverKC Жыл бұрын
I highly recommend disconnecting power before any cleaning attempt. Yes they are rated for rain, but a hose can easily push water into your electrical compartment and cause damage or injury.
@davidmarquardt9034 Жыл бұрын
By code the unit is required to have a disconnect in sight of the unit. Just flip the cover up, pull the plug, the system is dead, takes just 2 seconds. Put the plug in your pocket. Someone could flip the breaker on or turn down the thermostat to start it. But you have the plug in your pocket, so it will start only when you replace the plug when your done.
@blondella9911 ай бұрын
@@davidmarquardt9034could that plug go out and need to be replaced "ever"
@restaurantrepairs Жыл бұрын
Brought to you by a service company your gonna pay in a bit when your unit isn’t working anymore.
@MainSpears28 күн бұрын
The freon level is going to drop. If you're not going to charge the unit after the cleaning don't do this
@dylanclay274125 күн бұрын
@@MainSpearsif water did that then it'd happen everytime it rained 😂
@xXxR3V3NxXx15 күн бұрын
@@MainSpearsyou... you're joking right?
@SHOW01000Ай бұрын
Seriously, this works fine if you're a homeowner. I'll say if you have cottonwood trees or similar plant debris you may need to angle the hose downward to "peel" the scum off of the coils.
@michaelbeckman17948 күн бұрын
I use a piece of window screen wrapped around the outside of the AC. If the screen starts to get plugged with the cottonwood seeds I just remove the screen and wash it off. Works great for me
@greasebellygarage8 күн бұрын
@michaelbeckman1794 wow that is a fantastic idea I don't even know what cottonwood seeds look like this sounds like a perfect solution. You deserve a reward for that one sir.
@michaelbeckman17948 күн бұрын
@greasebellygarage cottonwood "bloom" are these 2" diameter fluffy seeds. There are many videos on utube where they are gathered up in the yard or curbside and people light them. It's amazing how fast the flame travels.
@greasebellygarage8 күн бұрын
@michaelbeckman1794 glad I've never seen it.
@michaelbeckman17948 күн бұрын
@greasebellygarage many videos on utube of "flash" burning cottonseed in yards or curbside.
@GodBlessedAmerica23 күн бұрын
I take the fan top off to clean the leaves out of the bottom. Then wash the condenser fins out. Unit is 20 years old now.
@greasebellygarage23 күн бұрын
Keep that one running as long as you can The new stuff is all junk.
@GodBlessedAmerica23 күн бұрын
@@greasebellygarage Absolutely. That’s what I’m hearing. They’re not cheap either. Hopefully this one hangs around a good while. ✌🏼🦅🇺🇸
@greasebellygarage23 күн бұрын
@@GodBlessedAmerica aluminum coils on Chinese parts have killed them all
@GodBlessedAmerica23 күн бұрын
@@greasebellygarage I try to stay away from anything made in China. It’s getting harder to find things that aren’t. It’s killing our country.
@makaveli08718 күн бұрын
Mine seemed to be getting REALLY warm so I shot through it for Cooling Purposes. It let out a wonderful cool breeze & I'm high as shit. I haven't checked how everything is inside the house but I hear my wife yelling so she must be really impressed. Thanks guy!
@greasebellygarage18 күн бұрын
Good job
@geraldpatterson390320 күн бұрын
Shut off the fan AT THE BREAKER BOX, then get a helper, unscrew the fan top and have your helper hold up the top that usually has the fan attached. Remove by hand or with a shop vac any debris at the bottom. Then IF NEEDED, from the inside, apply a basic degreaser like Simple Green liberally all over the grills and let soak in on the dirt for 5-10 mins. Then spray from the inside to the outside and do this until all the cleaner is washed away. Reassemble and then get a piece of screen cut out in a square shape that overlaps the top of the unit by about 6 inches on all sides and attach with thin bungee cords from each corner to the bottom of the unit to prevent debris from ever getting back down in the unit again.
@luisroldan8680Ай бұрын
Yup keep on going buddy, people like you keep us REAL HVAC TECHS in business. Not sure from where you LEARNED that specially the part you said " NO SOAP AT ALL" LOL
@greasebellygarageАй бұрын
I will. If you are a real AC tech, you should know that the less chemicals, the better. I've cleaned hundreds of condensers this exact way. Especially near the beach here in Florida where soap doesn't agree with the salt residue from salt water.
@terryboswell514822 күн бұрын
And it’s not a Trane a/c unit with Christmas tree coil I use 409 spray from inside out with the power off I’m a retired commercial hvac tech I’ve worked on units as big as a single wide trail were you crawl between the fan blades to get in side to clean the condenser unit but if you want me to fix something you messed up triing to do it you self it will cost you twice as much just saying after 45 years just saying
@greasebellygarage22 күн бұрын
@@terryboswell5148 when I was a kid my stepfather that raised me was a commercial HVAC tech he made me go inside of a cooling tower and spray some kind of descaling solvent when I was like 12 to 14 years old on the roof of a JCPenney's department store in fort Myers Florida. I also used to go help him overnight replace compressors at nursing homes. It was back in the early '80s. Years later when I became a residential HVAC tech I had people trying to clean their own condensers by taking them apart and then driving screws under the coil and doing all kinds of other crazy stuff.
@xXxR3V3NxXx15 күн бұрын
Chemicals can damage coils. Simple as that. You get the concentration wrong? Corrosive agent that's now got an all You can eat aluminum buffet Don't wash it all off? Corrosive, as well as now a great place for dirt to collect now that you have a nice sticky section. Every single microchannel coil I've seen says absolutely no chemicals. So, you're wrong. Sorry.
@greasebellygarage15 күн бұрын
@@xXxR3V3NxXx down in Florida we get natural corrosion from salt Air. Coil cleaner will absolutely destroy a coil that's near the beach.
@user-su5ft8lc9q9 ай бұрын
I use Jack Daniels to clean mine with, then i chase it with beer and a Camel.
@greasebellygarage9 ай бұрын
Perfect!
@TangoIndiaMikeJuliet8 күн бұрын
I had an hvac guy come and service my unit. He used a leaf blower first and then washed it from the inside.
@overwatch2671Күн бұрын
Finally, someone who does it right.
@greasebellygarageКүн бұрын
Word!
@crazysquirrel9425 Жыл бұрын
I used some vinegar, a little Dawn, sprayed with pump sprayer, waited 15 min, then hosed it off. Worked like a charm.
@nativetexan3865 Жыл бұрын
What were the ratios of vinegar to Daen soap?
@crazysquirrel9425 Жыл бұрын
@@nativetexan3865 1 gallon sprayer, 1 quart of distilled white vinegar, about 1/4 cup of Dawn. Won't harm the coils either. Unless yours are rotten or some other issue. My coils are 50+ years old. When in doubt, use less vinegar. You know you used too much Dawn if you keep rinsing and still have soap suds. Vinegar is organic and Dawn is supposedly biodegradable.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC Жыл бұрын
Dawn soap is definitely not what you use....it'll cause corrosion
@aliciacuoco827310 ай бұрын
I saw a vid about Dawn dishwashing liquid and vinegar. He used a foam bottle,with a little squirt of Dawn,then maybe an ounce of vinegar,filling the rest of the way with water. The bottle appeared ro be a 16-20ounce size. Maybe
@crazysquirrel942510 ай бұрын
@@aliciacuoco8273 That might work for one that is somewhat clean but not for those packed with dirt and mineral deposits. Thinking about using straight coca-cola next time lol
@mrhombregordo955623 күн бұрын
As a truck driver w a giant radiator/condenser and former brazer for Lennox (the air/heat giants) for huge condensers on units for clients like wal mart i must say this does work but its better to spray from inside out to get all the debris from just smashing into the tiny spaces between the fins and in time shortening the life of the unit. Much more work😩 but this method will help until you can afford, or have time, to do it more thoroughly. Stay cool people💯🫡
@greasebellygarage23 күн бұрын
Lennox..... Eeeeeeewwww! Lol I made this video to specifically show some of my customers how to just hose out their condenser really quick because here in Florida when we go like 2 or 3 months without it raining in the springtime they get packed up with dust and stuff and they call me and start complaining that it's not cooling very well this is almost always the problem so I send them the link to this video. I had several people last spring tear their units apart and clean them from the inside out and every single one of the ones that did screwed up their unit by either wiring the fan motor wrong driving a screw through the coil or just not being able to get it back together properly one guy even bent his fan blade really bad I had to replace the blade. So that's what this video is for DIY homeowners that want to do something to help. This is mostly harmless under those circumstances. Everybody that has commented on this thing so far has been telling me how to do it as a professional but I already know how to do it as a professional I'm just trying to help DIY people here.
@jamesh919528 күн бұрын
This will definitely work on a single condenser coil. With a double condenser coil, you run the risk of pushing the dirt and debris against the inside coil making the problem worse. A can of condenser coil cleaner will help break down the debris and make cleaning more effective. It’s almost always better to let an experienced professional service your A/C, to save you from yourself. Always turn the power off beforehand, water and electricity doesn’t mix and the electrical components are not completely sealed off.
@Bob-cx4ze13 күн бұрын
If you have cottonwood or other detritus that packs the coils, there is ZERO chance of getting it remotely clean from the outside only. Add if you have a mat wrap inside the metal guard, everything gets trapped between the layers. Here's the thing, you need to know your own limits. If you can't lift it easily and keep from dropping it, safely remove the power and fan connections and reinstall it all correctly, you should hire someone as needed.
@MajTom-wd2yt Жыл бұрын
Old bucklenuster here, I use my airline siphon attachment & blow a diluted mixture of simple green thru the condenser inside out, then blow dry.
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
That's actually a pretty good idea. Thanks for the tip!
@JPNZenii Жыл бұрын
I’ll do admit that’s one way to clean the condenser but I wouldn’t recommend.
@HONORfocus10 күн бұрын
Absolutely wrong. Turn power off, and spray from inside to the outside top to the bottom. All your doing is pushing the dirt farther into the coil where the compressor is.
@sk33t5220 күн бұрын
You do not want to use any water with that much pressure, it could damage the unit. I like to take the outside grate off too and sweep all the dirt and dog hair down and out then hit it with a light water stream just to finish cleaning everything that I loosened with the small hand broom. Just be careful when maintaining your own appliances, it most definitely can be done and has been done for as long as people have had them! 👍
@newstart49 Жыл бұрын
After killing the power, you can wash most condensers like this, but not all of them. An example would be a double coil condenser or one that has gotten oil or grease on it, as in a restaurant setting.
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right the method I demonstrated in the video works just fine for most homeowners. I've had to go back and fix ones where they take the fan tops off and did not wire the fan correctly or could not get the thing back together.
@jaime4726 Жыл бұрын
I’m an HVAC tech and first with a dirty condenser like that you don’t want to pressure wash the cotton into your coil but who am I to follow this man’s advice. Just saying always if your DIY person really do your research before doing.
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
I'm an AC guy too just trying to counteract some of the bad tick tocks.
@waltermontoya821223 күн бұрын
Now for those of us that know a little something about AC and home repairs and Home Remodeling and construction then we may have enough common sense to know that yes taking the top of the fan unit off unplugging the breaker from the outside and cut the power to the unit and then carefully reaching your hand down in there like the one gentleman said and spring From the Inside Out holding your hose straight at the fence with low pressure so that you don't bend those little aluminum veins which could be more of a clog later on down the road if you don't watch what you're doing
@greasebellygarage23 күн бұрын
You are 100% right and I encourage that from homeowners. However as a professional HVAC technician I have gone out on Sunday afternoons and soldered up holes and condenser coils where somebody put a screw in the wrong place or they miswired the motor somehow or got the wiring tangled up or bent the fan blade or something like that I have done it probably a couple of dozen times and more recently people see these videos on tiktok of professionals breaking down units and cleaning them but they just don't have the mechanical skills to put them back together properly. If you do I encourage you to do it. I have since quit the HVAC industry but just in the last month I have had to fix three of these where people have tried to clean them themselves. In fact I think it's my most recent short shows where somebody drove a screw through the coil. It ends up costing a lot of money when that happens the point here is that you can just spray them out especially if they're not that dirty. I applaud you for being able to do it.
@nbroachful2 күн бұрын
That's how it's always been done at my house. Just stay clear of the electrical box. Compressed air is not bad method either. 😂
@greasebellygarage2 күн бұрын
Lots of people do it the same way...
@AirShield Жыл бұрын
Public Service Announcement: Take advice from licensed & Insured Professionals. There are NO HACKS when it comes to your safety and the costly repairs that follow when doing thing the wrong way.
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
Are you the air shield that's in Bradenton Florida??
@jordanhenshaw Жыл бұрын
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: No no no no no no no. Don't do this. You're just pushing the dirt deeper into the coil! No no no no no no no no no no no
@Ephbaum11 ай бұрын
This isn't a 3" thick evaporator coil. It's 2 rows at best. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
@jordanhenshaw11 ай бұрын
@@Ephbaum You know what? You’re right. It’s a great idea to teach people the worst possible method for doing the job as long as one minor detail may mean it’s technically not quite as harmful on this specific unit as it may be on other units. 🤡
@dustinramsey77311 ай бұрын
yeah pushing cotton back into the coil to cause a bigger issue. @@Ephbaum
@Ephbaum11 ай бұрын
You either have no real world experience with this or you are incapable of basic common sense, logic and reasoning. @@dustinramsey773
@matthewhunter642122 күн бұрын
All you've said is no no no. So, what is the right way
@pwarren151612 күн бұрын
If you have a 2 row coil how are you supposed to get the inside coil without taking the top off? Also, probably wouldn't spray water all over it with electricity hooked up and running.
@TheUniqueOne86420 Жыл бұрын
Bro stop giving advice..
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
That's what I said!
@GaryVaughn-rx2sw2 ай бұрын
Bull shit. Don't force the dirt deeper in side those coils. It will clog. Take the top off. Spray from the inside to the outside.
@EpyonRules10 күн бұрын
Or at the VERY least, spray with a downward angle, not straight-on into the coil.
@rogersiples333512 күн бұрын
Don't use a pressure washer. You may damage the cooling fins.
@location_florida12 күн бұрын
Whatever works. Idk, I would still take the fan off and flush from the inside. I want to push the debris out of the unit not into it. I have mini splits though out of the house now. Those condensers are a different style and easier to clean
@BelakorVenator Жыл бұрын
Excellent advice for people who are wanting a quicker way to bend as many fins as possible
@masterdirk101 Жыл бұрын
If you're bending your fins over with street pressure tell me where they live so I can move there.
@AkshayBhavsar1989 Жыл бұрын
You’re supposed to clean them from the ionside out. I had about 5 lbs of dirt inside mine
@johndoles371329 күн бұрын
You supposed to claim them before you get 5 pounds of dirt maybe four and it needs to be clean
@AkshayBhavsar198928 күн бұрын
@@johndoles3713 tell that to the previous owners of my home. I must have been the first owner to care enough to clean it
@nickyborrisino11 күн бұрын
I’m a DIYer and I also like to remove the contactor relay switch, run capacitor, and freon when I clean my condenser coils.
@whatdfukk13 күн бұрын
Please pull the disconnect or shut off the breaker.. Don't ever spray into a unit while it is on or powered up. Rinse the coil and give sime time to dry out befor restarting unit.
@robbiexiong3508 Жыл бұрын
I did that for 2 years. Finally took the casing completely off. The top is pretty clogged. The bottom collected all kinds of debris that washed down and couldn't get out. This quick n dirty way works if you don't care. Taking it off is best, but is a pita to put back together
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
There is a risk-benefit factor to doing this and for most average homeowners it is not necessary to take the thing apart. When it's time to have it deep cleaned it's always best to call a professional. I made this video as a retort to some of the tick tocks that I've seen where they've got average people tearing their condensers apart to spray out a minute amount of dirt which probably is never necessary for a majority of people. The worst condenser that I've ever seen at a residential home was plugged up with chicken feathers and that had to be completely disassembled to be cleaned out but most of the time people just get light dirt and grass from cutting the lawn. Most people don't need coil cleaner either, the less soap you use the better off you are.
@WhowereEpsteinsclients Жыл бұрын
Tik Tok techs are the worst thing to happen ti Air conditioning since the phase out of r-22. Saw a video of a hack tech either venting or pretending to vent the other day, hope thatbdude gets reported to the EPA for a lesson.
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
You know some of those videos with the hacks are for entertainment value anyways right?? The problem is when regular homeowners are trying to take their fan tops off and they are one piece fan top and they call me because the motor doesn't run the right direction or they can't get it back together or is wired wrong altogether. I made this video specifically to show homeowners that if they're going to do something which they're going to do anyway they might as well just squirt it off with a hose.
@jordanhenshaw Жыл бұрын
@@greasebellygarage Then tell them on the phone to look at the friggin wiring diagram and tell them to call back only if they're still confused.
@richardlafleur2864 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanhenshawthats asking A LOT from an average customer
@jordanhenshaw Жыл бұрын
@@richardlafleur2864 If they’re already taking off the cover, taking off the top, and unplugging 3 wires, not really.
@richardlafleur2864 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanhenshaw or you're way out of your depth and should have stopped yourself sooner
@pcs951813 күн бұрын
I always blast mine hard with a pressure washer and straighten the fins later with a radiator comb
@JakeRomanak-vn4sw13 күн бұрын
Do this if you want to clog your coil and fry out your electrical
@richardscott8159 Жыл бұрын
Not the best way, you just push the dirt into the coils, especially if you have cotton wood trees in the area! I have seen air conditioning coils that have been cleaned from outside in, some were clogged so badly that we had to replace them, also we had some idiots it my work who thought it would be a good idea to use the high pressure washer! It took us 2 men a whole day to try and undo the damage, Of course this was a large 4 stage industrial chiller, with 2 large coils probably about 6 by 10 feet! "Yes", they tried to cut cost and hired some temporary workers to do the pm!
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
Yes restaurants are a different story for sure and commercial units. This video was made for basic homeowner knowledge that wants to squirt their condenser clean there's a lot of videos out there where homeowners are trying to take their fan tops off which can cause a whole slew of problems. The worst condenser I've ever seen was plugged up with chicken feathers of all things and yes it had to be cleaned from the inside out. To be honest I've rarely had to take them apart and clean them from the inside out because most of the time they're not even that dirty to begin with.
@jordanhenshaw Жыл бұрын
@@greasebellygarage Just delete the video.
@Vortechtral Жыл бұрын
Man, this guy is applying for the Darwin awards!
@Gabe_pirruccello14 күн бұрын
My unit stays under my patio out of the sun, I live in a really dusty area, I just use a leaf blower and air compressor and blow all the dust out of it about every 3 months.
@greasebellygarage14 күн бұрын
That works great for dust...
@jamesalvarez854323 күн бұрын
Hmm what happenes when we have a heavy rain fall and our AC stays running ? We don't all go outside and kill the power. Mines been running in the rain and hail even when we had a snow storm and it still runs strong. U can actually take a foam gun like to wash cars use regular dawn soap and baking soda mix it properly soak the out side of the coils. Let it sit for a min and rinse with the water hose. It will never damage your condenser. I do mine at least once a week and my AC gets ice cold and I usually have it set at 76. During the day
@greasebellygarage23 күн бұрын
I created this video and I guess I should mention that it's probably not a good idea to use any kind of cleaner while the unit is running especially professional coil cleaners. I just use water only I only use cleaner when it's absolutely necessary.
@alanjordan7713 Жыл бұрын
People don't follow this advice this is nuts
@matthewhunter642122 күн бұрын
Why?
@Ange0865 Жыл бұрын
What are you doing??? Come on man…. Kill the power and get some new-bright.
@greasebellygarage Жыл бұрын
I've only used nu-brite maybe 3 times in ten years. I usually don't use any cleaner at all. Obviously if the coil in the video were super dirty I would take it apart and clean it from the inside out but most homeowners don't need to do that in fact most of them don't even need to be cleaned to begin with.
@kick157421 күн бұрын
I never take the fan top off. I still spray it from the top out because all the dust and shit that catches on the outside. I don’t want to blow onto the inside once I get it real good to where there’s not shit stuck on the outside, then I will spray from the outside in.
@greasebellygarage21 күн бұрын
That's a good idea
@garyfeltman448219 күн бұрын
Always pull the fuses at the box first! The fan needs service, too. There are two oil ports on the fan,one for upper and one for lower bushings. A round rubber plug is usually there ,remove the plug and give each port 3 to 4 drops of lightweight oil and reinsert the plugs. While your fan is off you can clean the drain pan of debris. Spray the coils lightly to rinse any dirt and dust off. Reassemble and put the fuses back in the box.
@markour-parkour1918 Жыл бұрын
Do not do this
@gilbertovallejo385 Жыл бұрын
Recommend having unit off especially if it’s a multi stage unit
@JandAReview127 күн бұрын
I been doing this for years. Glad you have so many HVAC professionals in the comments. Bigger problem is how many ppl actually change their filter out on a regular basis.
@greasebellygarage27 күн бұрын
The AC professionals in the comment section are trying to explain how to do it the professional way the whole point of the video is to show a homeowner how to rinse light stuff out of their condenser if they do it regularly they won't have to call a professional. Thank you for watching my video and understanding it.
@JandAReview127 күн бұрын
@@greasebellygarage No problem! Love your channel! I have a 1970 model VW Bug, do you guys work on them?
@greasebellygarage27 күн бұрын
@JandAReview1 thank you very much!
@billyoung811818 күн бұрын
My degree is in electrical engineering. I figured I can remove the top and clean it myself, no problem. Took the top off...could not align the screw holes in one place when reassembling it. "Just go get a longer screw!" I thought. Next thing I hear is "psssssss..." as I pierced through a hidden freon line. Lucky for me, my brother is an HVAC tech. His employer charged me just cost for the freon. He came over, welded the hole closed. So sorry, ozone hole. My bad.
@greasebellygarage18 күн бұрын
Uh-Oh well that's something that you typically only do one time but I have to confess, I've even done it myself, once, right in front of a customer... Lol. I have probably done that same condenser hole repair maybe 50 times over 25 years or so. Hey life happens right? But it's such a sad waste of refrigerant....
@RDAmidwest11 күн бұрын
What we really need is redesigned condensers that simply mount their fan on a hinged panel with latches and a safety cutout switch. Unlatch the hatch and tip it open. Apply low pressure cleaner inside and out, let it soak a bit, then spray with the hose from the inside. When complete just close the hatch and lock the latch. It's nearly criminal that no manufacturer has done this.
@greasebellygarage11 күн бұрын
That makes too much sense....
@swainer801417 күн бұрын
WRONG!!!!!! WRONG!!!!!! WRONG!!!!! 25 Years in the field. That would work okay for a single row coil. Most coils are doubled up. Good luck getting the dirt out of them when this dunce pushes the debris between them. DON"T FOLLOW THIS HACK!
@user-rd7cj9zt7y5 күн бұрын
To do a good job, you DO need to take the top off. You also should be blowing the dirt OUT of the coil, not into it. This means remove your top and spray from the inside to the outside. Then you clean out the bottom of the pan. This video is not the one to learn from. Go to AC Service Tech for a better resource.
@billb744 Жыл бұрын
Unit off the motors are bottom open
@chaicharinАй бұрын
Can you show us how to water our lawn next or an even more difficult job like spraying the dirt off the sidewalk. This video changed my life. 😂😂😂
@greasebellygarageАй бұрын
Totally
@k.lamareyev441824 күн бұрын
I do this once a week. As soon as i finish cutting grass. My hvac guy showed me the same as you. I also have the full system cleaned/ serviced every spring and the technicians always say my unit is clean.
@greasebellygarage24 күн бұрын
Once a week might be a little too much depending on how much grass you have I guess sounds like you have a really good AC guy because I have taught most of my customers how to do this myself. They thank me for it.
@joer657122 күн бұрын
Love it when I get to one of these calls and the customer says they clean it, and it looks clean, but it’s plugged. Pro tip. Clean from the inside, take a sample by catching some of the water in a cup. Even when you think it’s clean, dirt and debris is still coming out. Proper clean from inside takes some time. Quick rinse is not gonna cut it. If your hvac guy is doing a cleaning and spraying from the outside, directly in, send em on.
@greasebellygarage22 күн бұрын
As long as the fan is moving air it does not have to be spotless. I am my own AC guy.
@socalifone30442 ай бұрын
This is a video on exactly what not to do. Always and I mean always turn the power off. Never use a high pressure hose like this guy is. Great way to damage the fins. Whoever taught him this was ignorant.
@greasebellygarage2 ай бұрын
The guy that taught me this was an HVAC contractor in Florida for 60 years.... Lol I've done this thousands of times..... But it's only for light cleaning.... I've seen homeowners so more harm than good by tearing them apart.
@socalifone30442 ай бұрын
@@greasebellygarage So the guy that taught you told you to leave the power on? I'm not trying to be rude to you cuz I know you think this is the right thing to do. But this is a good way to find out whether your 220v is properly grounded. It won't be fun if it's not. Like I said in my prior comment that high pressure is an excellent way to damage the fins when you talk about damage that's extreme damage. It will take a couple of hours to rake those fins back into position.
@greasebellygarage2 ай бұрын
@@socalifone3044 I never advise anybody to spray water directly into the electrical box area I mean the unit does sit out in the rain especially here in Florida I've seen these things underwater in Florida before and the pressure in the video is not nearly as high as it seems it's one of those bullseye nozzles that you can buy at Johnstone supply. The guy that taught me this actually told me that the fan helps pull the water through the coil so yes I have witnessed numerous numerous other AC techs in Florida that do this all the time. Obviously when it's impacted are really bad we tear the units down and spray them from the inside out with new bright and all that crap. The fact of the matter is 90% of the condensers in Florida can be cleaned exactly the way I did it the video and yes you could always turn the power off.
@VideoArchiveGuy22 күн бұрын
This is EXACTLY how every AC tech I've ever seen does it; not ONE has ever taken off the fan and cleaned from the inside.
@MrEltonjr2 ай бұрын
Someone’s asking for an instant death sentence by leaving that fan powered on. Shut it off at the emergency kill switch. Do it right!
@garrettsmith5747 Жыл бұрын
The fins be like ouch!
@jdewitt-pn9kr27 күн бұрын
Yeah clean it with the unit running 👍🏼
@gunsmokefan134424 күн бұрын
Thanks mister I’m gonna try that cause there’s a bunch of dust on that outside Heat pump and the five yr warranty just went out!!
@greasebellygarage23 күн бұрын
Absolutely have at it! You're Welcome!
@waterboggle3621 күн бұрын
Those open carriers units yes easy to clean with just a hose, Now the common trane, Amana/goodman and even some Lennox units have flashing covering the coil quite well and a hose just won’t do trust me, some can easy take flashing off and others require taking fan top off to be able to remove flashing and full access to coil. Also they do make non chemical cleaners such as viper that clean very well compacted or dirty units better then just water alone
@greasebellygarage21 күн бұрын
Yes you're exactly right it's always customers that take off the Lennox, Goodman and trane fantops that seem to end up causing problems so I just tell them to spray the hose in the same direction as the armor vents. It does a decent job for a homeowner. Actually the trane American standard ones are pretty easy to clean no matter what in my opinion.
@jeremyhinken336520 күн бұрын
No. The fan is drawing air *through* the condenser coil. Debris, grass clippings, cottonwood, leaves, hair, etc., get pulled in between the aluminum fins. The proper method is cleaning from the inside. The supply house specifically sells a wand that fits through the fan grill and sprays a fan pattern from the inside. All you have to do is shut off power first.
@josekanucee142816 күн бұрын
Disconnect 220v. Remove fan. Spray from inside out. Clean tray.
@bigdealdoughnutz23 күн бұрын
Fan top: shut off power box and unscrew 5 to 8 screws max, turn it over and place it on top unit. You can scoot it over and reach each side of the coil at a time. If coil is plugged from debris being sucked into the outer side of the coil then your pushing debris into the coil and it settles around the compressor; spraying from the inside out is more effective, and you can also clean out leaves and debris that has fallen inside the unit.
@greasebellygarage23 күн бұрын
That's what I do when people pay me to do it...
@drewgregory237013 күн бұрын
Hey ive been doing this for over a 100 years so i got you beat. Kidding and either way if a home owner wants to shut the unit down and do it the right way shouldnt you be teaching that and explain why we secure power and remove the condenser fan ? Either way its their unit and if they want to destroy it then its more money and work for the residential guys.
@greasebellygarage13 күн бұрын
I guess you have a point!
@midwestoutlaw319419 күн бұрын
I hope he was trolling cause this is hilarious 😂
@user-fc9iq6le2g21 күн бұрын
Yes you can do it that way especially if your condenser is not too dirty. A regular washing is perfectly fine cleaning it that way. Now if its pretty dirty........youre only pushing in the dirty...basically packing it into the fins and coils. Because that is the direction of the air flow. You want to go against the flow to push it out. Then after its clean, you can now clean it as shown in this video. But make sure you wash it regularly.
@mutualin4mation13 күн бұрын
This guy doesn't know how dirty my heat exchanger was.
@greasebellygarage13 күн бұрын
Sometimes they get really nasty and obviously this method won't work on that... Sometimes you just have to tear them all apart.
@mikerobinson367223 күн бұрын
If you have a lot cottonwood in you area don't do this. It just pushes the cottonwood spores farther into the condenser. Im not a HVAC tech, just a home owner that has seen a thing or too. I am Diesel and heavy Equipment tech that has to deal with cottonwood. I would say 50 percent of my over heating issues on Equipment are caused by plugged up heat exchangers.
@greasebellygarage22 күн бұрын
That is the one thing that I did not accommodate for in this video but it's only because we don't have cottonwood trees in Florida our worst pollen is from oak trees and it just rinses right out of everything. I'm actually watching KZfaq videos right now because I have a 7.3 powerstroke diesel that refuses to start. Lol
@mikerobinson367222 күн бұрын
@@greasebellygarageThe ICP sensor is a common failure on those engines. What is even more common is the wiring harness to the sensor burning up from heat and resistance. Navistar used the cheapest wiring I swear. If you go after that sensor check that harness as well.
@greasebellygarage22 күн бұрын
@mikerobinson3672 Yes I haven't narrowed down to that now I bought a new sensor which included a new wiring harness that's my next move. Thank you
@howiemook770113 күн бұрын
I pull the breaker out of the panel and hose it while not running .
@andrewtrushinski384821 күн бұрын
A better reason to not take the top off is because if the fan comes on things can get disasterous really quick. Not everyone remembers or knows how to disconnect the power.
@davidkeeton67164 күн бұрын
If its got a bunch of leaves in it, you need to take the top off. The way you were moving the hose blast side to side you could have been bending over those fragile fins. Just go up and down as most of the time the fins are oriented that way. There is a chemical called coil cleaner that works real well and is not harmful to your a/c unit, or plants or animals.
@scottwilliam988317 күн бұрын
I don't know much, but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the other way around..... You don't want the garbage going inside, you want to shoot it out!
@greasebellygarage17 күн бұрын
From my experience it works both ways except chicken feathers are a pain to get out I've had that problem before.
@jps230822 күн бұрын
Please don’t do what this guy did!!! Turn the power off and remove the fan top it’s the ONLY way to wash it!!!!
@gaga14001216 күн бұрын
I live in Canada, every year the AC in the spring gets covered in poplar fluff, just spraying from the outside only would drive it in deeper into the fins. So takin of the fan part is a must, its like the little old lady standing in her garden on a hot summer day, with the hose in hand watering her grass,
@rockettests2617Күн бұрын
Thats a great way to push pine needles and grass even farther into the coil. This ensures you will need to call a professional who will clean it properly and with greater difficulty. 😅
@kylewells687122 күн бұрын
So ya take the hose and just blast the dirt deep into the coil, make sure to leave the unit running too. Lol. Close but no cigar.
@greasebellygarage22 күн бұрын
I only do that until I see the water passing through the other side then I know it's stuck in there really good. I like Cuban cigars occasionally.
@1995dresser18 күн бұрын
Common sense would tell you that depending how clogged the fins are that you should clean the coils from the INSIDE out because of the direction of the airflow caused by the fan also with the fan out of the way you retrieve any debris and clean the drains on the bottom of the unit to prevent any premature rust on the bottom pan
@joshuacongdon68319 күн бұрын
It's actually way better to take the screws out the top and get the dirt cleaned up from inside. As a certified HVAC/R technician, leaving the dirt inside it's just going to end back in the place it started
@greasebellygarage9 күн бұрын
Correct but I made this video for homeowners that just want a quickie way to maintain some things.
@lovepaw100023 күн бұрын
You spray cool/ cold water on your coil while its running with hot vapor/liquid. that will cause a temperature drop between condenser/ evaporator. Depend on what metering device you had inside and how good it's still operate, you might end up with ice on suction line. Taking your fan off to clean is okay, just be careful with how its wiring. it actually recommend that you spray from inside out with low pressure water.
@CiscoWes21 күн бұрын
Make sure you don’t have much water pressure when doing this. Don’t ask me how I know. 😬
@huh012311 сағат бұрын
The reason to remove the fan top is to blow the shit back out of the coils, not push more of that outside gunk further into the fin stack.
@user-yo4re3si7k24 күн бұрын
We need to take the cover off to replace the capacitor. When the fan stops running , you're getting a trickle of cold air in the vents.
@artnovak325920 күн бұрын
As a 30 year veteran in the business. DO NOT take this mans advice. He is washing the debris straight into the coil. If you must was coil without taking fan off, wash the debris downward toward the bottom. Push it down, not in!!! The only thing i agree with here is his water pattern adjustment.