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DIY Helical FPV Antenna, you won't believe how good it is!

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For about $4 in parts you can build a helical antenna that provides a huge amount of gain and significantly increases the range of any 5.8GHz FPV system in a drone or RC plane. This DIY video shows you how to do it and I'll be posting more tests of the 5-turn and 3-turn versions shortly.
If you want to see the real-world tests just jump to 00:26:00 in the video.

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@unionse7en
@unionse7en 3 жыл бұрын
it's VERY valuable for older people that we can relate to ..to share what happens to us physically as we get older...mental/spiritual/physical/strategic preparations etc!
@123coolx
@123coolx 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen your videos when I was a kid and now I'm flying because of you!
@OneOfTheRobs
@OneOfTheRobs 4 жыл бұрын
Such a nice comment and compliment to make and he doesnt even like it or say sonething back :-(
@andrewCNC905
@andrewCNC905 4 жыл бұрын
@@OneOfTheRobs maybe there is reasons a creator dosnt read comments
@wattage2007
@wattage2007 2 жыл бұрын
@@OneOfTheRobs That’s Bruce for you.
@OneOfTheRobs
@OneOfTheRobs 2 жыл бұрын
@@wattage2007 who is Bruce for me?
@salg760g5
@salg760g5 2 жыл бұрын
recently, I really have gotten more into Antennas in general and I am fascinated by the creativity that adheres to formulas and mathematical rules that antennas have to go by. I have much to learn.
@jeffbluejets2626
@jeffbluejets2626 5 жыл бұрын
When using epoxy to secure an otherwise (plastic) incompatable material, I find it useful to drill a series of small holes around the circumference, quite close to the base. These are loaded with epoxy and when the epoxy from the base makes contact, all become a "keyed" construction.
@vlfreak
@vlfreak 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for keeping the DIY dream alive in this world of "just buy one".. sometimes i want a thingy RIGHT NOW, shipping takes time, so having the skills to actually make your equipment is awesome :) remind me of when i was experimenting with long range 2.4ghz wifi (back in the early days, about 15yrs ago), hand made biquads on scrap copper sheet, baby-food tin can-tennas and house guttering waveguides.. all good homebrew stuff that worked, well before commercially available gear cheers from across the ditch!
@RavensSpirit2012
@RavensSpirit2012 5 жыл бұрын
Well said
@WildCaptures
@WildCaptures 5 жыл бұрын
I’m learning to make a Helical at 2:26am, Woo Hoo 👍🏻
@maxiemusfpv198
@maxiemusfpv198 5 жыл бұрын
Steve B lmao im doing this at 1 am and i have end of semester testing in about 7h
@emanuelmonterroso1667
@emanuelmonterroso1667 5 жыл бұрын
2:21 am for me 😉
@___echo___
@___echo___ 5 жыл бұрын
@@maxiemusfpv198 GL lol
@hipeoplesSr
@hipeoplesSr 5 жыл бұрын
@@___echo___ lol 5an here
@BellyUpFishGarage
@BellyUpFishGarage 5 жыл бұрын
4:04AM here....
@WindjumbieFPV
@WindjumbieFPV 3 жыл бұрын
I made my first one and I am blown away with the results! Thank you so much!
@joshsawka3078
@joshsawka3078 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Bruce!!! The fact that you didn't over engineer the antenna or sweat blood over exact measurements and still have it work quite well, should encourage those of us that aren't amazing at crafting objects to give it a go anyways....and enjoy the results! Cheers....Jealous Josh in chilly Saskatchewan..enjoy summer my friend!
@johnchandler4565
@johnchandler4565 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce for the motivation and inspiration to build a 5-turn helical antenna. I built one, using a 3D printed former, over the weekend and my testing showed that it far exceeded the performance of a commercial 7-turn helical that I already owned. The VSWR ended up being 1.6:1, which is not great for Tx but adequate for an Rx antenna.
@mikrot-rex747
@mikrot-rex747 5 жыл бұрын
Started watching your vids from the diy fpv backpack days. So much has changed since... except the quality of your content. Keep those great vids coming Bruce!!
@MnM_FPV
@MnM_FPV 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Italy Bruce, with your help I finally got around to building my own helical antenna and it works quite well! I'll be doing some long range testing over the weekend. Thank you so much for this great video and everything you do for the RC community! Ciao!
@currdog44
@currdog44 5 жыл бұрын
Bruce good to see you getting back into the tech side of the hobby and showing us how to DIY stuff! Thank you good sir from Southern California
@sUASNews
@sUASNews 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, more like this, please. I need some omni love at 868.2
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 5 жыл бұрын
Lol...another R9M customer, mines awful too if that helps, and Im using a True-Mox on mine.
@sUASNews
@sUASNews 5 жыл бұрын
@@EnglishTurbines Ah almost, I need it for a glider tracker, it's all LoRA though. I think coax and mounting are super important at relatively low powers involved.
@rhaseltiG
@rhaseltiG 2 жыл бұрын
Totally cool, I am going to build a 1686 radisonde receive antenna. Keep it up you are providing data to a radio junkie
@Spicks96
@Spicks96 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fab Sir Bruce. Have missed the DIY vids. Always best to make them yourself. So much more rewarding.
@dockmanish
@dockmanish 5 жыл бұрын
Your DIY videos are by far my favorite of what you do.
@UAVfutures
@UAVfutures 5 жыл бұрын
16:30... bruce im shocked but Trev would be proud
@vernonlloyd1388
@vernonlloyd1388 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bruce I thoroughly enjoyed that video, i love tinkering I may have a go at one of them myself. im just started in to FPV bought the stuff over a year ago it's just been sat in the drawer 😏 thank you again big salute from South Wales UK 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@dbm5540
@dbm5540 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to build some of these, Sure wish you would post links to a parts list. I could be sure I order the correct parts. Love the DIY videos. Great job Bruce
@jeremyboyce1537
@jeremyboyce1537 4 жыл бұрын
Hi bruce ,I am three years late with this video but I like it and it is not that bad at all bruce I think it looks pretty good and it works ,thank you Sir .
@hollywoodjoe67
@hollywoodjoe67 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job Bruce you truly are an awesome guy I appreciate all you do for our community
@matthewbarger4592
@matthewbarger4592 4 жыл бұрын
sorry your dealing with Parkinson's, my best friends dad had it however he still lived a long life. ah new Zealand, hope to visit there some day, looks like paradise on earth. i do mostly dlg and gliders so i think id have a lot of fun there with the diversity of terrain and weather conditions although here in the state of Washington there's always fun places to slope or find some thermal activity..
@tonyemory3618
@tonyemory3618 4 жыл бұрын
For sure Bruce those little heat guns though cheap are nice to have, It sure does make your project much more professional when you have the right tools for the job, My Heat gun is a HAKO much more expensive than the standard unit off ebay but i own one of the cheap ones as well that i use in the garage if it gets stuffed oh well ill buy a new one.
@paulmillard1130
@paulmillard1130 4 жыл бұрын
Never hurts to experiment , good idea.
@pulesjet
@pulesjet 4 жыл бұрын
A good heat gun has been on my bucket list for years and years. Guess I should do something about it . Altering dementions this antenna would be quite handy for WiFi as well.
@Gw0wvl
@Gw0wvl 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the " Velocity factor " being used 👍
@TheBoatPirate
@TheBoatPirate 4 жыл бұрын
thats an awesome build video. i understand how those antennas work better now. thank you!
@rogergaard
@rogergaard 5 жыл бұрын
I love your diy videos Bruce. It hurts me to see the difficulties you get with shaking hands 😢 I wish i was your neighbor. You could learn me, and i could help you. You are a great guy Bruce !! It still hurts me that i wrote a couple negative comments (backpack / diversity Rx) some years back, Im sorry..hope you can forgive me. Keep you hobby / work and videos going. Marry Christmas / Happy holliday to you Bruce and your family 🎅🏻🎁 From 🇳🇴
@M0rdH0rst
@M0rdH0rst 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, that will be one of my next projects. I already have a triple diversity receiver, so this would be a good solution for FPV flying planes.
@bosshog2328
@bosshog2328 5 жыл бұрын
bruce, thank you for going back to making good videos again. RC planes, electronics, good and bad buys, and good overall knowledge of the hobby. I subscribed again and enjoy your content.
@austin200877
@austin200877 5 жыл бұрын
So informative please please can we have more. Just love watching your videos.
@yodad4776
@yodad4776 Жыл бұрын
marley spouting glue is the best ,and non conductive ,i use it on all my drone plugs and wires going into plugs ,it keeps moisture out and is super strong with a wee bit of flex ,and its good to glue down broken off plugs u solder back to a board
@LincolnSP150
@LincolnSP150 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Demonstration, ..... Thank You
@highafpv2942
@highafpv2942 5 жыл бұрын
If you really want a nice straight piece of wire put it into a drill chuck and grab the other end with pliers. Spin then wire while giving tension straight out with the pliers. after a few rotations the wire should be super straight with no visible kinks or bends! works a charm!
@tomrosch8690
@tomrosch8690 5 жыл бұрын
These are my favorite videos of yours. Keep them going!
@Taematoe
@Taematoe 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to 3d print some parts and make a few of these. Winter is a great time to build while waiting for good flying weather. Thanks for the info!
@Hotwire_RCTrix
@Hotwire_RCTrix Ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Definitely better than rants. 😁👍👍
@miguelalmeida1213
@miguelalmeida1213 5 ай бұрын
34:00 - a lot of black magic. That gave me "Smith Chart Black Magic Design" PTSD
@DaRoach5882
@DaRoach5882 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Bruce! I have been using Farvew's open source files to build my helical antennas for a few years now and have been loving them!
@locoworks8179
@locoworks8179 5 жыл бұрын
that's what i use Frsky receiver packaging for too.
@ingmarm8858
@ingmarm8858 3 жыл бұрын
21:20 all good calculating the exact multiple of a half wave for the coax, only to forget about the transmission line formed by the SMA male, SMA female on the gear and feeder or microstrip internal to the goggles lol. When it comes down to it without putting all these on a VNA it's all best guess for the builder :-) Amusing to watch though, keep it up.
@dronesforevercia3469
@dronesforevercia3469 10 ай бұрын
MUITO BACANA SEU TESTE COM ESTA ANTENA! BREVE VOU FAZER ALGUMAS COM VÁRIOS TAMANHOS E FAZER UNS TESTES! OBRIGADO PELO SEU TEMPO E SUAS DICAS! ABRAÇO!
@dukejet6997
@dukejet6997 5 жыл бұрын
Man your a legend to this hobby Bruce. Love your work mate. Merry Christmas to you and your better half :)
@TheDrunkenMug
@TheDrunkenMug 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Bruce ! I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did :) Best regards and health from Holland
@LA6UOA
@LA6UOA 5 жыл бұрын
Great! I recognize an OM when I see one! Fantastic job, both the build and the test! 73 de LA6UOA!
@damienkrohse3374
@damienkrohse3374 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm definitely going to try this out. Thanks for putting this video together and I would like to see more DIY stuff.
@geologmtb
@geologmtb 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Bruce. Very helpful especially for the simplicity. Just to double click on this a bit, if possible could you share the calculations you did for the distance between the spirals, etc? Thanks again
@valderja
@valderja 5 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video Bruce. It's awesome to see such good results by making something that's accesible for everyone to have a go at.
@mrph678
@mrph678 5 жыл бұрын
excellent video Bruce! love the building and figuring things out side of the hobby as much as i love to fly. Going to give this one a shot once Crimbo is over! Happy Christmas to eveyone :)
@iforce2d
@iforce2d 5 жыл бұрын
How about putting the copper side of the reflector to the rear, would be a lot easier to solder the coax shielding on, and you would be gluing to the fr4 instead of the copper.
@joecarnes9174
@joecarnes9174 5 жыл бұрын
I.d like to see this and how/ if/ what any benefits are. Lol
@RCModelReviews
@RCModelReviews 5 жыл бұрын
You could try it that way but my experience indicates that you probably won't get as good an impedance match between the antenna and the coax. Having that first 1/8 - 1/4 turn of the helical run parallel to the reflector and very close to it (less than the thickness of the PCB) can make quite a difference to performance. However, it would probably make it easier to build. I'll build one and see if there's any performance hit.
@hendersonroger
@hendersonroger 5 жыл бұрын
​@@RCModelReviews Due to the Er of the board epoxy you might not need to get the first 1/4 turn of wire as close to the ground to tune it. Same effect as using a plastic tuning tab under that first 1/4 turn. So it might work out OK. Could do an experiment with 0.8mm PCB and 1.6mm SS PCB.
@slembcke
@slembcke 5 жыл бұрын
@@RCModelReviews Huh, interesting. I was going to ask the same question. White board video suggestion: Impedance for RF circuits. I vaguely remember calculating impedance for AC circuits in my university class, but apparently I don't remember enough to understand why it would matter to a receiver. :(
@JMathieson
@JMathieson 5 жыл бұрын
Understand the need to Have copper on the coil side, but how about using double sided fr4?
@loc4725
@loc4725 5 жыл бұрын
Another very useful guide. Thanks! Oh, and I want more DIY. ☺
@maxiemusfpv198
@maxiemusfpv198 5 жыл бұрын
I am quite amazed and inspired. Thank you Bruce!
@pnwRC.
@pnwRC. 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this video! This explains a lot why the FPV camera I tried in our clubs rc trucks gave us horrible video!
@k6lsn
@k6lsn 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice job on the project and great demo of a helical. Look forward to seeing the effects of more experimentation with length, etc. Making something by hand is so gratifying isn't it? :) ☮️ Wheelchair John in Idaho 😎
@allennickles3970
@allennickles3970 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool and educational video..thanks for sharing 😊
@evo-labs
@evo-labs 5 жыл бұрын
One way you can effectively straighten out bent copper wire is to drill a hole of the same dia. as the wire in a peice of wood, then thread the wire through the hole and pull it back and forth to use friction to heat the wire and help straighten it.
@pault5179
@pault5179 5 жыл бұрын
Or put the wire end in a vice and pull on the reel, I used to do this with tinned copper wire to make it a bit narrower (for riveted through-hole connections on 2-layer proto pcbs in the past)
@fishballfpv9063
@fishballfpv9063 3 жыл бұрын
From FPV drones now im playing with antenna's - thanks for this! I was thinking of applying clear coating on the back plate that is bare copper since it can and will probably get oxidized.. what you think?
@Rosa.Elefant
@Rosa.Elefant 5 жыл бұрын
Loved it, will build my own soon :)
@scottmarshall6766
@scottmarshall6766 5 жыл бұрын
One trick to get those 90deg coax connector closures started is to stick the plate to a pencil eraser with a little piece of foam tape. Also Loctite is now selling a epoxy designed for polyethylene and it's brethren which works quite well(albeit a tad expensive) Shop your professional auto parts shop. Great How-to!
@Alistratov1971
@Alistratov1971 4 жыл бұрын
In result you have a good omnidirectional CP antenna. It have not amplification in front axis.A bit more complicated than just lambda / 4 ... And the resistance of this "antenna" of yours is 300 ohms. Good luck with your flights!
@kennethschultz6465
@kennethschultz6465 4 жыл бұрын
The reflektor is a full waveleenght .. from middel or 2 wavelenghts across
@rusack7174
@rusack7174 5 жыл бұрын
Best tip, what to make of broken propellers!
@greg0063
@greg0063 5 жыл бұрын
Sure more diy. I did a 5 turn scratch built one a while back and it works well. If you wrap the wire around something slightly smaller it will be tight on the tube.
@ramjet4025
@ramjet4025 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce, another great video. You know your antenna theory better than most. I've got a request , why not do a video on a Helical Antenna for VHF Air band where there is little grounding? Lots of experimental and amateur built lack room for a normal length antenna and if you have at least 5 watts, output, it should be possible to radiate an acceptable signal from a really short helical wound antenna..
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 5 жыл бұрын
Baked bean tin for the reflector? Would you say it's...cheap as beans?
@danwedrat2783
@danwedrat2783 5 жыл бұрын
Cavey Möth 🤣🤣🤣
@MyProjectsTV
@MyProjectsTV 5 жыл бұрын
I always asked myself, if I could build multiple of these and connect them together to get a better signal, or to point them in sightly different angle to have a wider area to fly.
@JonathanPopZAR
@JonathanPopZAR 5 жыл бұрын
As always , Awaresome Bruce . Gave me an idear what to do on my christmas leave :)
@LordGryllwotth
@LordGryllwotth 5 жыл бұрын
Thicker copper makes more bandwidth, but you have to make it a little shorter, and if you pull and stretch the copper a bit you get it stiffer.
@vladmirputin7139
@vladmirputin7139 5 жыл бұрын
Bruce, I'm 23 and have no conditions and I'll be damned if I can get those screws in the right angle connectors. Took me 15 minutes one day to get one of those POS on.
@aspergerhellasbn
@aspergerhellasbn 5 жыл бұрын
I saw some videos on your channel.not everyone fly an airplane though.there are others who play with a boat (like me;).there are different things to consider then, when you try to find the best solution for rc signal .
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv 5 жыл бұрын
This video just made me subscribe. You have some great knowledge. I m a lifetime student. I love learning. Thanks for your quality content. Keep it up 👍.
@vernelfpv
@vernelfpv Жыл бұрын
will try this. thank you
@garyhoffmann1615
@garyhoffmann1615 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bruce, might try this for a WIFI link too.
@MrMellamoto
@MrMellamoto 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, yes, more DIY please 👍👍👍
5 жыл бұрын
A butane lighter with a refil valve shrinks the tube just as well or better, costs a few cents and even if used daily it can last for years. I, being a smoker, always use a lighter for heatshrink tubes, never sooty matches. Shrunk tube is a very good insulator, I tested it even at 20kV! But soot is very conductive. And the lighter is on just as long as you need to shrink tubes while the heatgun could be on for hours like the soldering station and be used only for a minute a day.
@ulwur
@ulwur 5 жыл бұрын
The heatguns Bruce is talking about is automatic. (There's magnets in the handle and a reed relay the stand). Once you have it you'll never want to be without. Not just for shrinking tube, but for heating stuff, bending plastic, softening glue, drying paint. It's really good!
@thelongranger55
@thelongranger55 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect , im gunna build myself a big patch antenna and a helical !
@stevefox3763
@stevefox3763 5 жыл бұрын
A video on making day 433 mhz directional antennas for telemetry would be really useful
@aaroncutler4908
@aaroncutler4908 5 жыл бұрын
From what Ive read it would be easy, you just need to figure out the wave length of the band youre running and use multiples/dividers to determine coil width/length etc.
@stevefox3763
@stevefox3763 5 жыл бұрын
@@aaroncutler4908 the wavelength is 70cm, a waiter wavelength is 17.3cm so I don't think it's really practical due to the size it would have to be, a Yagi may be a better option if you have to go big anyway
@aaroncutler4908
@aaroncutler4908 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, yah, I didnt know how large that wave was.
@stevefox3763
@stevefox3763 5 жыл бұрын
@@aaroncutler4908 it might be possible to make a 1/8 wavelength antenna but im unsure and will have to do some research, one thing I do know is each time you go down a fraction the antennas performance is also reduced and a full wavelength is always better, it's just weather the directional performance exceeds the loss.
@kris4362
@kris4362 5 жыл бұрын
Bruce ...... inspirational, keep it up mate :-)
@juergenstremmler2286
@juergenstremmler2286 5 жыл бұрын
Build a 12 turns helical with my 3D printer which works very well, but it was relatively difficult to bring in the wire....
@bryantmaximilionalpha2840
@bryantmaximilionalpha2840 5 жыл бұрын
I'm quite new to the fpv hobby and have a question concerning your build. With the helical antenna mounted to your base station, what kind of antenna is mounted to the quadcopter, or is it the stock antenna?
@chrisparkin499
@chrisparkin499 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Who knew it was so easy? Thanks for the information. Please do note vids like this.
@iknowlaa
@iknowlaa 5 жыл бұрын
You know, i really respect you man. Thanks for the tons of info, i never knew its possible to use 2 helical for a diversity goggles, you just gave me an idea!💡now i have a project to attend to.
@woodrunner51
@woodrunner51 5 жыл бұрын
do you have videos with the theoretical background? I mean explaining the calculus, choosing the dimensions of each element?
@frankogara8774
@frankogara8774 3 жыл бұрын
Great video learned a lot
@snaprollinpitts
@snaprollinpitts 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce!!!
@miar9230
@miar9230 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Bruce! As allways. ... Nice sidecutters by The way :)
@RCModelReviews
@RCModelReviews 5 жыл бұрын
:-)
@AscendElevator
@AscendElevator 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help
@flightlieutenant6902
@flightlieutenant6902 5 жыл бұрын
Great video . Thanks mate .Cheers from Australia
@stevrgrs
@stevrgrs Жыл бұрын
So awesome. Your videos are great! :)
@rfareas
@rfareas Жыл бұрын
You can try Rfareas antennas. The best antennas for FPV, imho.
@RCwithAdam1
@RCwithAdam1 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH!! THANKS BRUCE! Gathering materials now! 👍👍
@kermets
@kermets 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome work Bruce.......Merry Christmas
@wilfredswinkels
@wilfredswinkels 5 жыл бұрын
to straighten the wire, put one end in a vice and the other in a drill. pull while rotating. you never saw such a straight wire. to soften the wire (it gets work hardened), run a flame along it.
@danboarder
@danboarder 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm making one 👍
@wildeone1967
@wildeone1967 5 жыл бұрын
Great video I've just made some and they work a treat thanks for the great content
@ChrisBalmforth
@ChrisBalmforth 5 жыл бұрын
A really good instructional video Bruce.
@jackdaniels7913
@jackdaniels7913 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bruce your a fpv treasure!
@Duncanlovett
@Duncanlovett 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Bruce that’s brilliant. Yours tested to a horizontal range of approx 50-60 degrees, but what would the vertical angle be approximately? Could you fly almost overhead with it? Many thanks.
@demacherius1
@demacherius1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bruce for the Info. I will now trie to make my own. BTW I love the fact that Nz uses the metric system. I cant underastand this 3/5 17/6 stuff from Imperial 🤣
@onemantwohands5224
@onemantwohands5224 5 жыл бұрын
Mate, after making my crossfire rx antennas I'm SOLD!! Thanx very much ......moff to the electronics store now bye!! :-) :-)
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