DIY: How to revive a dead 18650 (or any) Li-ion battery cell

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vuaeco

vuaeco

6 жыл бұрын

Check out my newest 18650 salvage video: • Revive dead 18650 batt...
Today I will show you how to revive a dead 18650 Li-ion cell that's being refused by the chargers. This method will work with any Li-ion battery, not just the 18650 cells. Here's my follow-up video: • Follow up video: Will ... if you wonder how much current (Amps) goes through the wire.
Note: this is not a permanent way to charge an 18650 cell. The point of this method is just to bring up the voltage of the dead cell to a point that is enough for a real 18650 charger to accept it and charge it properly. When a Li-ion battery does not have high enough voltage, the charger would not charge it. I think the reason is safety because if the voltage is too low, it might take a risk of charging a NiMH or NiCad cell which are only 1.2 volts each. And if you put a NiMH or NiCad cell (at 1.2 Volts) in a Li-ion charger that charges up to 4.2 volts, all hell will break loose.
Also: don't overdischarge a Li-ion cells down to below 3V especially below the threshold recognized by the charger. Otherwise, it will not live long. The "Goldilocks" zone for a long and healthy Li-ion cell life is between 30% and 90% charge. Too much charge or discharge would be bad for the cell.

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@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
I have made a detailed video on this. There's a lot more information on this new video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9t8l8xl1LqbqH0.html
@familyguyandothergreatanim2371
@familyguyandothergreatanim2371 5 жыл бұрын
Electric scooter 🛵 🛵 and
@srbijapodlupom9907
@srbijapodlupom9907 4 жыл бұрын
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@jmsr8640
@jmsr8640 4 жыл бұрын
There are several suggestions for getting a good result never attempt to do this until you are sure what you are doing - the acid can burn your skin check the voltage first - there may be a dead cell which would waste your time. Check the battery fluid. attempt to fully charge the battery. (I discovered about these and more from Jons Mender Guide site )
@achristian7015
@achristian7015 4 жыл бұрын
Once the battery is fully charged, next find out what the capacity of that battery is.
@fuji8654
@fuji8654 3 жыл бұрын
@@familyguyandothergreatanim2371 z xxx
@ugaugauga488
@ugaugauga488 3 жыл бұрын
The lesson of the clip for me is: the use of the little magnets!
@David-bc4rh
@David-bc4rh 3 жыл бұрын
I am converted
@dondominic7404
@dondominic7404 3 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@gerhang3361
@gerhang3361 2 жыл бұрын
Using magnets actually work or no? Lol
@beograd07
@beograd07 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerhang3361 not on my meter. tips are made of 316 ss material
@sookmaideek
@sookmaideek 2 жыл бұрын
magnetz it making cell fixed then litum batte light now voltage ok
@bobengelhardt856
@bobengelhardt856 6 жыл бұрын
Using magnets to hold the leads is very clever!
@johanponin1360
@johanponin1360 6 жыл бұрын
I see this more and more. Started using it too, I hate screw or solder .. magnet are amazing
@Johann52005
@Johann52005 6 жыл бұрын
I advise you to check the resistance of your magnets with a multimeter, some have a coating with high resistance so they heat up
@Mechmaniac77
@Mechmaniac77 6 жыл бұрын
Magnets are amazing except on copper terminals :(
@johnw1385
@johnw1385 6 жыл бұрын
bro... get a stronger magnet... think super conducting... still wont hold it but what you are aiming for is a fall rate so low, resistance wont approach infinity in your life time :D never mind the impracticality of such a bat pack, or the substation connected to it
@johnw1385
@johnw1385 6 жыл бұрын
just build a spot welder
@matt889
@matt889 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, something else you can do to revive the cells is to set your RC charger to NiMh mode which does not have Low Voltage protection and set it at 0.1 amps, this will trickle charge the battery to get it above 3.0V and then you can switch it to LiPo mode :)
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 2 жыл бұрын
I do this trick at 0.1 amps using a bench power supply ... using NiMh mode is a great idea too ...
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 4 жыл бұрын
This is the simplest method that most videos describe, but I prefer a safer method. This way can make the battery heat up and explode. I use a bench power supply where I can dial in the voltage and the current. I limit the current to about 50 milliamps, and then I gradually raise the voltage to the point where it starts to take current. Sometimes this can be as high as 30 volts. Once it starts to charge, I reduce the voltage to about 4V, and I turn up the current to about 100 mA, and let it charge for a few minutes. At this point I transfer it to a proper charger, because it monitors temperature and controls the current, shutting off when the charging is complete. It's particularly useful for older cameras which have dead batteries which no longer take a charge, and the new battery is either very expensive or hard to find.
@M0DB0Y
@M0DB0Y Жыл бұрын
I've been doing it this way for some dead skateboard batteries. But I also recommend trying to blow up them batteries ;)
@nameismetatoo4591
@nameismetatoo4591 Жыл бұрын
Those without a bench power supply can just use a partially-discharged battery to revive the deep-discharged one. The lower potential between the two will naturally limit the current and will produce less heat.
@roberhatube2366
@roberhatube2366 Жыл бұрын
@@M0DB0Y why ? What is gained. ? What is lost ? or poisoned?
@threeworlds
@threeworlds Жыл бұрын
How can you tell if it's taking charge? I have a dead 12v lithium. Thanks
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 Жыл бұрын
@@threeworlds My bench power supply has adjustable voltage and current, and displays both with 3-digit accuracy. I set the limit to less than 50 mA to start, and there's never a problem.
@douglaspotter4612
@douglaspotter4612 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you. I didn't gave any good 18650's so I used 2 AA Alkaline batteries in series and connected them to the dead 18650 in the same way you showed. Worked surprisingly effectively and only took a few seconds to bring the 18650 up to a chargeable voltage.
@Issac4tech
@Issac4tech Жыл бұрын
Real bcuz i don't want to my battery explode 🙄
@uhmgawa6533
@uhmgawa6533 9 ай бұрын
2x AA cells in parallel with a deal li ion cell. Make sure all connections are solid and then take a walk around the block. Goal: determine the response time of the local fire department.
@douglaspotter4612
@douglaspotter4612 9 ай бұрын
@@uhmgawa6533 Or just connect it for a few seconds and don't leave it's sight and it's perfectly safe
@yolociberpapeleria6134
@yolociberpapeleria6134 6 жыл бұрын
For Anyone out there, I used this method with a dead AA NiMH rechargeable battery, and it worked as described.
@deish7814
@deish7814 4 жыл бұрын
This battery is a Li-ion. It's a different beast. I wouldn't recommend this to be honest, it would be more successful on a NiMH battery and if it isn't it a worse case result would be less explosive.
@PrIsMaTiSmX
@PrIsMaTiSmX 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the RC chargers have a power supply or 'smart charge' mode that will allow you to put any current you want through the leads. Super useful.
@loki8845
@loki8845 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad i stumbled on this! Didn't know you it was a voltage drainage issue, I left my batteries plugged in my gimbal once discharging so I messed up 2 batteries. I didn't know it was a voltage drainage issue with these types of batteries. I didn't have the right tools like a volt meter but fortunately 2 18650 batteries where charging so I charged one. The working 18650 connected to the dead battery through simple soldering wire i had laying around..When i saw the spark i thought it probably fried it..I got paranoid so i only did it for like 10 seconds or less. Just like jump starting a car it instead the battery came back to at least 1 volt and the charger no longer displayed an error and begun charging the dead battery! this works wonders! You saved me having to spend 20 something dollars on new batteries and having to wait for shipping and cancel a video shoot! Thank you!
@Sombre____
@Sombre____ 3 жыл бұрын
Same i let the battery sit for a couple of month on the desk. Last time i checked, the battery was good. And now, there is just 0.100V inside. Don't understand.
@indigocharlie7218
@indigocharlie7218 5 жыл бұрын
Love the magnet idea 😉, that alone is a thumbs up 👍
@melgibson6331
@melgibson6331 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are gold...literally...watched your drone vid which gave me the guts to try what i had wondered would work...take my old ecig batteries and replace the weak lipo in it....works great using certain brands of batteries and waaay cheaper and safer than expensive over priced lipos.
@ArtyMars
@ArtyMars 5 жыл бұрын
I love your accent / voice it is so soothing to listen to in a tutorial like this
@mediatour8898
@mediatour8898 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I did it and with a very similar charger. It doesn't work long if the battery is too dead but depending on what you need the battery for that's not a big deal. For batteries between 1.5-2.5v they can usually come back to almost perfect health. The older and longer the battery was discharging, the less likely they are to come back to normal.
@beaveronabike
@beaveronabike 5 жыл бұрын
love the magnet trick - never seen that one before! Thanks!
@robertstonestreet6079
@robertstonestreet6079 3 жыл бұрын
I tried. It worked. I had 3 expensive and near new 18650 batteries. All VERY flat from a big flashlight. All now charged. I tried 2 different chargers. Thank you.
@TheClay11b
@TheClay11b 3 жыл бұрын
This worked well! Thank you! I will say I held the multimeter on the old battery after disconnecting from the new one and the voltage was not holding- but is expected from a battery that was left dead for so long.
@bryce281
@bryce281 5 жыл бұрын
Worked for me, thank you so much, some of the comments about corroding insides of the batteries have me worried, I will keep a close eye on them, besides that, my charger wouldn't charge them, now it does! A++
@Static1701
@Static1701 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, saved 4 batteries that had been in a flashlight that was left on. My Opus charger would not charge them before I tried this.
@zcsays8382
@zcsays8382 3 жыл бұрын
you damaged ur cells in the process. leading to a shorter life span
@I.____.....__...__
@I.____.....__...__ 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen this method mentioned in other places, but I particularly appreciate the description explaining the _reason._ 👍 Far too many people just "give a man a fish" instead of teaching. 🤦
@KingGrim87
@KingGrim87 5 жыл бұрын
I have watched this video two times now. I have saved around $120 with your technique! Thank you
@fisktomte
@fisktomte 5 жыл бұрын
you are the boss! i had one 18650 that had only 0.18v charge and its now back at 3.7v and working again thanks alot
@bingosunnoon9341
@bingosunnoon9341 3 жыл бұрын
BS
@GhettoRanger01
@GhettoRanger01 6 жыл бұрын
I just did this and it worked great. I folded a strip of aluminum foil until it was about 1/4" and then tore it in half, I stood the 2 batteries beside each other on one of the foil strips, I laid the other across the top terminals and counted to 20, I put the battery in the charger and it worked! Thanks for the tip!!!
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea! :D
@paulmbylbie6065
@paulmbylbie6065 4 жыл бұрын
Using the magnet for contact for charging ...... BRILLIANT....somehow I missed that one all these years......ty sir
@TS-qd2uj
@TS-qd2uj 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very clear description of the process as well as the 30 second max charge warning.
@robertacton1271
@robertacton1271 5 жыл бұрын
Using magnets instead of soldering for a short term connection. -Great idea!!
@dougveit
@dougveit 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! I followed your instructions and it WORKED like a charm!!! I have a 14650 Li-Ion inside of a plastic case and protector circuit (known as the LIP-8) for an old Sony Mini Disc. I had purchased that battery as an extra backup and failed to actually charge or use it back in the day. The battery was so dead it would not recognize. You got me going my friend - thank you!!!!
@RiverBrat68
@RiverBrat68 4 жыл бұрын
I am terrible when it comes to anything electrical but I bought the cables & alligator clips shown above, followed the directions to the letter and boom! My left-for-dead 18650's are charging in a wall charger ... something they refused to do for 2 weeks! THANK YOU!!!
@djancak
@djancak Ай бұрын
are they still working
@hereseasytrickbringsanybat7674
@hereseasytrickbringsanybat7674 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a video on how to revive / rejuvenate a battery that is dead or no longer active.
@Laggin6
@Laggin6 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I have an 18650 battery that won't charge so was trying to figure out how to zap it without ruining it. Your video is awesome and the tip about using magnets is brilliant! Now I can fix several different things I have that won't charge.
@garychandler4296
@garychandler4296 5 жыл бұрын
Thanking you for this trick! But, I did my a face palm when you used the magnets on the clips! I love magnets but never thought of that. An age-old problem solved!
@furonwarrior
@furonwarrior 4 жыл бұрын
Not a good idea. These magnets are coated with nickel and is not a good conductor compared to copper leads when charging at high amp rates.
@jsteinfeld14
@jsteinfeld14 4 жыл бұрын
@@furonwarrior unless you use it to keep them in place but still have full contact between the lead and the battery. How he had it wasn't the best, but it is a smart idea
@twokool4skool129
@twokool4skool129 9 ай бұрын
Great tips. The magnet trick to conveniently attach leads is also clever. I didn't have a charged lipo battery, but this also works if you have a variable power supply. I just set mine to 3.2V and connected it in parallel to my battery for 30 seconds, and the battery was ready to charge!
@qarngazzelqarntube2834
@qarngazzelqarntube2834 5 жыл бұрын
My friend with the best accent ever ! So happy to stumble upon you again. As always great stuff thanks
@AThreeDogNight
@AThreeDogNight 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought of just using another battery to recharge up a battery enough for a recharging, some great advise, thank you, I needed that. Also the magnets are such a great idea as well, I've already purchased some new small magnets just for doing this technique now. Again thanks a lot, Tom.
@marcusrobinson1778
@marcusrobinson1778 6 жыл бұрын
Thomas Fanning this is actually horrible advice dont do this
@maislume981
@maislume981 4 жыл бұрын
Not usual for me to leave coments. But you rock dude! You have fixed my battery! Thank you so so so much for the good help! You are the best! Thanks heaps!!!!!
@m8trxproductions417
@m8trxproductions417 Жыл бұрын
Thanks had a brand new item with inbuilt battery, accidentally left on and ran flat over a couple of weeks. Would not light up the LED panel or charge. Pulled the battery out, kick started as explained in this video, put the battery back in and it is now charging as normal. Don't know yet if I have done permanent damage, but looking good so far. Was a life saver because we could not get another 3.7V the same size as the one built into the item.
@ChillCat665
@ChillCat665 5 жыл бұрын
Totally worked! Thanks man, awesome vid! Only took a few seconds for the charger to recognize the battery
@Wipsplash
@Wipsplash 6 жыл бұрын
I discharged my battery to far and the charger wouldn't charge it. I tried your suggestion and it worked. Thanks
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 5 жыл бұрын
Charger didnt charge it for good reason. Its safety function that is built in. When litium battery goes under its safe to charge voltage, it looses its capacity and creates internal resistance witch eventually cause short circuit witch causes it to heat up and catch fire, if not explode depending construction. Sure you are able to revive battery like this, but its not safe to operate afterwards and its capacity is cut greatly. I have done this to my rc Lipo batterys for few times, but i know the risk involved and kept these batterys separated and monitored from the rest until it bloated too much for my comfort level, witch point i run it down to 0 volts, using light bulb as load, check there was no voltage in any of the cells, cut the connectors off to be used in other batterys (only cutting one lead at the time), electric taped the lead ends and recycled it according the laws around here.
@grantwes
@grantwes 5 жыл бұрын
Hey great tip on the magnets
@n30a
@n30a 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man it works! I had a dead AA very new battery only used it 3 times. Wouldn't charge, when I measure no voltage. I actually used a 9v to give it a jump for only 5 seconds. Then measured 0.8v and now its charging.
@marioantonio2096
@marioantonio2096 5 жыл бұрын
An excellent job. You saved me 4 batteries of 6000 mAh. Thanks a lot.
@yaimem
@yaimem 2 ай бұрын
they are not 6000 mah anymore. (they probably never were, companies lie a lot about 18650 capacity)
@N8SANZ
@N8SANZ 3 жыл бұрын
Cool trick, man. Just a tip: if you put electricity thought a magnet, with time, this one will be demagnetized. And the magnets also add resistance to the circuit, so it's better if you don't use magnets while charging your batteries. Peace, bro. 👍
@JoseHerrera-mk7cv
@JoseHerrera-mk7cv 2 жыл бұрын
That's the point only 30secs?
@itsmatka8384
@itsmatka8384 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Funny cuz the charger and voltage scenario down to the charger indicator lights and color of cell...Got my dead cell up in under 30 seconds!
@MaleAdaptor
@MaleAdaptor 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I had a battery pack for a VAX vaccume cleaner that would not charge. With the batteries in place I applied 4 volts to each cell ( one at a time ) After removing the 4 volts each cell was nearly 2.9 volts. I plugged it in to the pack in to the charger and the it charge up. fully after a few hours.
@markknight2768
@markknight2768 Жыл бұрын
🤟 Worked great for restoring my HS510 drone battery! Was about to tear the battery apart but I just did the jumper wire trick for a few seconds from one of the other HS510 drone batteries and it came back to life and is now charging on the Holy Stone charger. Thx for the great vid!
@rustyh1686
@rustyh1686 4 жыл бұрын
Just woke up my 25r's, we will see if they hold charge. Thanks man👍 There was no way I was sticking something under positive to reset cid button 😢
@anthonyhadsell2673
@anthonyhadsell2673 4 жыл бұрын
did they hold charge?
@rustyh1686
@rustyh1686 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyhadsell2673 sure did bro, still going
@ABritInNY
@ABritInNY 3 жыл бұрын
Really? I find that very hard to believe. Not if the cell's CID has been tripped it won't. It physically cannot! The CID is a current interrupt device making a physical separation of the circuit like a fuse. This is just a "wake up" method for very low voltage cells. However even with all that said, this is a VERY BAD idea and stupid on oh so many levels. That 1.7m people watched this recommendation is the only positive about it, certainly there should be a bunch of warnings attached to the video. It's impossible to list all the reasons in a YT comment BUT just "off the bat," paralleling 2 cells of very diff voltage levels is dumb and dangerous due to possible excessive equalization current. Just from your example of a 25R cell, if that one was the charged cell, it could easily dump over 50a instantly (25r can pulse discharge more than that too,) to the low cell, with unpredictable results on both low cells and any thin AWG wires connecting them. Fire can erupt wyite quickly in that circumstance. Yes, crap low discharge rate laptop cells are less of a danger for this, but there are so many other factors. Aside from all that, the "woken" cell may suffer from dendritic growths and may self discharge to LV quite quickly, making the entire operation essentially irrelevant. Considering how cheap these cells are I can't believe people are wasting their time, and inviting a potentially dangerous situation in their homes, but they "your life, your house/mortgage," if people are renting though, I wouldn't let the landlord see the video or comment ;p
@rustyh1686
@rustyh1686 3 жыл бұрын
@@ABritInNY I didnt say CID was tripped at all. Just low voltage that my charger wouldnt charge. I used a full charged bat and jumped it in 20 second increments while holding in my hand to keep an eye on heat. Anyway your question was really? My answer is yes, I dont talk shit. As far as the rest of your comment, I only got to about the 3rd line before becoming to bored to continue🤷‍♂️, but I appreciate your effort, thanks. I have no doubt you are very smart😁
@ABritInNY
@ABritInNY 3 жыл бұрын
@@rustyh1686 Understood, but then I'm not sure why you'd say in your comment"...to reset the CID button." I mean why mention reset if not tripped? That was kinda the part I was commenting on.
@duanewilliams7353
@duanewilliams7353 5 жыл бұрын
That was really cool!! I thought you would jump the dead battery with a live one with perhaps twice the voltage!! but you did it a lot safer!! and those magnets!!!
@PH03N1X0M3G4
@PH03N1X0M3G4 6 ай бұрын
Much love! This totally worked for me. Was at 0.15V, placed in parallel for ~10 sec to 1.8V, which was enough for my charger. Good looking out!
@charlesshampine9012
@charlesshampine9012 5 ай бұрын
I figured this out myself, too. The electrically conducting magnet trick is the cat's meow. Thank you! Good stuff.
@jf_moreira
@jf_moreira 5 жыл бұрын
Nice idea with the magnet, will use from now on! Cheers, brow.
@j.finesseflights1403
@j.finesseflights1403 5 жыл бұрын
The magnet thing is freakin awesome... that helped me more than anything!!!
@cristianjrojas
@cristianjrojas 4 жыл бұрын
the charger will not charge the battery because if the voltage is below 2.8v the battery became unsafe, good that you are teaching people how to overpass the safety feature
@anthonykloehr6845
@anthonykloehr6845 5 жыл бұрын
This worked great for me. Thanks, you saved me a lot of money on batteries i was going to recycle
@CH-py8zv
@CH-py8zv 4 жыл бұрын
This is what's called bump charging, i have done this before to my cell's and it does work as long as the cell has not reached it's end life cycle.
@ashcooper7962
@ashcooper7962 4 жыл бұрын
This just saved me some serious time. thank you!
@rickw8456
@rickw8456 5 жыл бұрын
Great Idea on using magnets to hold the leads. I hadn't thought of that.
@cirowe
@cirowe 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, saved the 18650 battery on my screwdriver!
@61066clocks
@61066clocks 3 жыл бұрын
The magnet to hold the leads made the vid..thx..the battery revival was old knowledge
@kie-skatemods4141
@kie-skatemods4141 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! Learn something new today!!! Badass
@karelbaresh6727
@karelbaresh6727 4 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done, VuaEco! I like your easy-going tone and the clear explanation. Thanks for sharing :o)
@nadieselgirl
@nadieselgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, your magnet trick is super useful! Thank you!
@XwpisONOMA
@XwpisONOMA 5 жыл бұрын
You are on the correct path to solving the problem. A LiPo battery that reads a very low voltage to the point a charger will not accept it for charging is due to developing a high internal resistance because of a chemical reaction that occurred when it was either discharged too low and/or at a rate higher than safe. This can be fixed by applying a voltage higher than the nominal 4.2 Vmax ( and up to about double that) of what a LiPo should be charged to, and by keeping the current as low as possible (~ at 1/10C of what it is rated) so the chemical imbalance is reversed, internal resistance goes back to a normal low level, thus the battery becomes more ..."accepting" to an incoming charge. As an example connect any ...misbehaving LiPo to a wall wart with about 9 - 12 Volts and a current of as low as possible (ie 100 - 300 mA) and monitor the battery voltage level: It will start to rise slowly. The key is to let it rise very SLOWLY , like ~ 0.1 volts per minute. The slower the better, it depends on your patience just keep an eye on the battery temperature, but if you use a low current it will not warm up, guaranteed. Let the battery reach a little over 4.2 volts (not higher than 4.3 V is recommended) and disconnect it from the wall wart while observing your multimeter display. If the battery settles anywhere above 4 V it is still usable (the higher the better) although it is probably no longer as efficient like when being new. If the voltage is slowing dropping most likely it will go all the way back to an unusable level so at least you know the battery has lived its useful life and recycle it properly. Nice video, I hope I was also of some help too!
@69Judge
@69Judge 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious; Do you know which battery more closely matches it "C".. !;!
@jayyanez2259
@jayyanez2259 5 жыл бұрын
After watching this, I used an old 5v 1amp charger lying around, cut the end, and attached them (one to +/-) on the 18650 battery and plugged it in. After about 15minutes, pulled it off, and...the battery WORKED! Charged as usual! Thanks!
@tristanambross5968
@tristanambross5968 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe it works😂 I had an awt 18650 that's been dead for a while, did this whole process in literally 30 seconds and the battery charges! You sir, are a legend.😎😎
@gooney2846
@gooney2846 3 жыл бұрын
can i ask what you used for the connections? or will I have to just go get those clamps/new batteries.
@tristanambross5968
@tristanambross5968 3 жыл бұрын
@@gooney2846 I literally used vape tweezers and a paper clip, held the batteries in place, and connected them up, was way too easy. Ratchet setup but it worked
@SuperBrainAK
@SuperBrainAK 6 жыл бұрын
The reason why charging at unlimited current is a bad idea is that when a lithium cell is discharged too low there is nothing formed on the plates, charging at a low current (sub 100mA) will reform the chemistry on the plates if you charge too fast it will cause uneven forming of the plates and WILL cause dendrites which are shorts inside the cell, that do not happen right away and if it is put in a pack it will short out and cause a major chain reaction
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 6 жыл бұрын
This is not charging at "unlimited current". It entirely depends on the cell you use to charge the dead cell. In this case the LG cell puts out 2C or 3 Amps max. And it's also and old cell so it would be even less than that. I have never seen any Li-ion charger that puts out less than 100mA. Let's say if you do have one, how long would it takes to charge a 3350mAh cell? Let me do the math: 3350/100=33.5 hours! Yeah, that's over 33 hours to charge a Li-ion cell which I have never seen. Most charger would only take less than 4 hours. Lots of charger would take less than an hour. Some even take half an hour. That means they charge the cell at over 3 Amps on a regular basis. I'm not saying that's good for the cell but unfortunately there are lots of chargers out there that can charge a Li-ion cell in less than an hour especially cordless power tool battery chargers. Take a good look at all cordless power tool chargers: Dewalt, Milwaukee, Ryobi, Kobalt, Bosch... all of them have fast chargers. In this method I'm using, I'm only charging it at 3 Amps for 30 seconds. That's even less than a typical charger that does it all day everyday. Sure dendrites are formed in Li-ion cells but that's a typical life cycle of a Li-ion battery. It's like human growing old, having white hairs and wrinkles, developing cancer. That's part of growing old. Not all dendrites are bad, however. Only ones that are big and hard enough to pierce through the cell layers and short out the circuits. Most dendrites are harmless and part of the life cycle of a typical Li-ion battery.
@SuperBrainAK
@SuperBrainAK 6 жыл бұрын
Yea but tell me the current that it charged at. Oh you don’t know for sure because you didn’t limit it. When reviving a dead cell you only charge at a low current until it is at a normal voltage again. Then you can charge it in your ultra fire linear parallel charger
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 6 жыл бұрын
SuperBrainAK Yes, I know for sure what the charging current is. It's much less than 3 Amps. Here's the follow up video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rKydlapprNa3ZHU.html
@OregonDARRYL
@OregonDARRYL 6 жыл бұрын
The tool manufacturers want you to buy more batteries, so fast charging makes the customer happy and destroys batteries making the corporate jerks happy.... it's a win - "win".
@jaxativejax662
@jaxativejax662 6 жыл бұрын
One weird tip...I guess you're in the right place since youtube.com has no shortage of scams but the link you supplied is a classic marketing scam.
@Yellowfootprints2011
@Yellowfootprints2011 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, thanks for posting!
@s.o.s.exploration2412
@s.o.s.exploration2412 Жыл бұрын
I had purchased a new battery after realizing the aftermarket deck I put in my VW Wagon was draining it but was time anyways 2 replace. So it killed the new one. My 20+ year old charger had an issue with power cable eventually fraying so I picked up a new digital smart charger (EverStart Maxx 50A,15A,3A trickle). Hooked it up and pressed recalibrate and nothing. I was confused, passed, and gutted. But then I took a step back and thought to myself alright, so I got to work. I replaced the power cable in the old school direct current charger. Tested it and made sure there where no issues. Threw it on the dead battery for a small period of time and once I got it to a quarter to half way of it being charged I tried the digital and it started charging and doing its job. So yes this is a very, very helpful way to get more life out of batteries like these that are believed to be dead. I have a 10 year old 18650 battery from an old original vape pen which broke in my Tactical flashlight and still to this day I use it almost daily taking the dog out. Lasts as long as it did back then and same current too as every 6months I throw the 18650 that came with the flashlight in and double check so I know how it's doing and to re-topoff the stored one to keep it freshly charged while stored.
@nw7696
@nw7696 3 жыл бұрын
It works with my old metal hydride makita batteries too, I use 2 x 9 volt batteries in series to raise the voltage to pacify the charger. 😊👍🏻
@Command37
@Command37 4 жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed your accent while watching your various battery videos.
@mastertek383
@mastertek383 5 жыл бұрын
I came back here to hear you say cells again. If I could thumb it up again I would.
@ormocchestandlungclinic3043
@ormocchestandlungclinic3043 3 жыл бұрын
u just need a high current charger to shock what is inside the battery. And after that u can charge it back to a normal charger. just like ur making a jumper from ur car to a dead battery. thank u sir u refresh my memory. keep going & God bless!
@isaacbugalho
@isaacbugalho 3 жыл бұрын
Worked on a 18650!! Only needed 3 seconds and they became really HOT. Be carefull!! Thanks!!!
@tristanambross5968
@tristanambross5968 3 жыл бұрын
Same dude! Did it now in the same amount of time, works great!
@eliasfernandez3722
@eliasfernandez3722 6 жыл бұрын
I Like your video and I think it's safe..I like the fact that you answer to all comments with a positive response..I already made one explode and it's crazy dangerous not fun at all. I'll never never going to do that again..but I will dispose them the proper way.. ido you have a recommendation for that ?
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 6 жыл бұрын
I've done all sorts of crazy stuffs with Li-ion batteries and I've never seen any explode, not even once. What kind of battery did you explode and what did you do to make it explode?
@miraclo3
@miraclo3 4 жыл бұрын
what you can also do is use a Turnigy or imax b6 charger to raise the voltage to get them to charge. all you have to do it swap it to NiMH mode and charge it for a couple seconds until the voltage on the 18560 is 2.25-3v and then you can swap it back to lithium mode and continue charging like normal. it will work for any lithium cells.
@Sombre____
@Sombre____ 3 жыл бұрын
Don't work with a 406 DUO charger.
@MrPolleke1949
@MrPolleke1949 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I also liked the way you "connect" the battery with magnets ;-)
@rosskrause3926
@rosskrause3926 5 жыл бұрын
I like all your battery videos..very informative and straight to the point..subscribed.
@TRICKYBYRD
@TRICKYBYRD 4 жыл бұрын
I think the magnet s on the alligator clips was the coolest and most handy thing I've seen all day. Did you just glue small magnets to them or are they actually magnetic?
@troublefollows9986
@troublefollows9986 4 жыл бұрын
He put tiny magnets on battery
@TRICKYBYRD
@TRICKYBYRD 4 жыл бұрын
@@troublefollows9986 might have just put batteries on the magnets
@JahanZeb1976
@JahanZeb1976 6 жыл бұрын
This technique you did with a good discharged only battery. If you try it with a bad quality dead battery, it never ever will bring that back to life. Best regards,
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 6 жыл бұрын
True, absolutely. You cannot revive an extinct dinosaur but you can awaken a sleeping dragon.
@kale5567
@kale5567 6 жыл бұрын
This will only works for alive discharged battery
@tyronenelson9124
@tyronenelson9124 6 жыл бұрын
Yep once its dead, its dead!
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 6 жыл бұрын
Gary Harper: A cold bucket of water will work.
@johanponin1360
@johanponin1360 6 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of samsung cells from a sony laptop, 0.8V and 0.5V, are they dead or reviveable ? also, if they're dead, if I try charging at very low current, what are the risks of them blowing up?
@pygmytube
@pygmytube Жыл бұрын
I tried your method on NI-MH batteries and it worked. Thank you very much for sharing this!
@thicc_daddy_chris8768
@thicc_daddy_chris8768 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man worked great, I just held wires to the connectors
@cactusstudiossouth
@cactusstudiossouth 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but, once charged how long do those dead cells last compared to a good battery?
@robbyv.526
@robbyv.526 5 жыл бұрын
No shit the magnet is both a lightbulb moment and palm to forehead in that order. Thank You for enlightening and keeping me humble friend. Hope you are having a good day.
@amorphuc
@amorphuc 4 жыл бұрын
I like the magnet idea there. Thanks for the tip.
@mihaidugulan2110
@mihaidugulan2110 4 жыл бұрын
It worked, thank you!I have saved a dead Li-Ion battery.
@ahmadebrahimi4862
@ahmadebrahimi4862 5 жыл бұрын
it may show you a good voltage, but i dont think it could work as a regular battery, it wont give you enough current, and will drop voltage so fast.
@kuldeepsinhzala6471
@kuldeepsinhzala6471 4 жыл бұрын
Ahmad Ebrahimi will it work as new battery cell if this process is done with dead cell ?
@TheCustomFHD
@TheCustomFHD 4 жыл бұрын
@@kuldeepsinhzala6471 no, it last only like 5 - 10% than the original power
@stringsattached67
@stringsattached67 4 жыл бұрын
Not true I revived a point & shoot camera battery that I had let get too low and it has worked fine for over a year now ' all depends .
@MrJockito
@MrJockito 3 жыл бұрын
When they show less than 2.5v or get warm when charging , i give them to the recycling center.
@firboulala3701
@firboulala3701 3 жыл бұрын
Mine sparks when combined in parallel. Also no voltage increases immediately. Checked the dead battery resistance, it has few ohms. Is it end chapted?
@hugodeandres1497
@hugodeandres1497 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely yes
@Matt_Deluca
@Matt_Deluca 5 жыл бұрын
You, good sir, have just saved me the cost of a new battery. Thank you!
@shawnt8891
@shawnt8891 5 жыл бұрын
Matt Deluca what’s that 2$ wow now you can retire!
@Matt_Deluca
@Matt_Deluca 5 жыл бұрын
@@shawnt8891 more around $7-10 for a good 3000mAh 18650. I actually had 2 dead ones that I revived, so I saved double lol
@matthewbeaver5026
@matthewbeaver5026 4 жыл бұрын
Good ones (good name brand samsung, lg, enloop etc) can be upwards of 15-20 bucks a piece
@Robertsack100
@Robertsack100 3 жыл бұрын
Oh you have a good power sentry distributor with overvoltage protection! Keep it safe! There are only a few manufacturers are so very good components in it. A good thing!
@schautamatic
@schautamatic 3 жыл бұрын
Almost feel like I’m getting an order of gator nuggets in Pierre Part, Louisiana. It’s everyone else with an accent! 😄👍🏼
@mr89firebird
@mr89firebird 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, so, where IS he from?
@rv-powerwall9870
@rv-powerwall9870 5 жыл бұрын
I always find myself coming back to your channel to see what your up to and it is always entertaining. I also get more ideas watching your videos. I live in Texas so never thought temperatures below 40 deg f would effect me but recentlyI was visiting the cold northern states and experience temp well below the safe levels for the 18650s so I had to pay attention to the temp inside the RV. I was wondering if you have done any test on charging and discharging 18650's in cold temps? By the way my RV Powerwall build has worked out great... thanks for all your videos.
@0x73V14
@0x73V14 5 жыл бұрын
don't try to charge a cold battery, let it rise to normal room termperature first, some tool battery chargers have sensors that check for this before attempting to charge
@caseyfox165
@caseyfox165 4 жыл бұрын
Not that this guy shows ANY safe knowledge regarding lithium ion batteries. The guy you want for this info is called Mooch. Don't follow this guys advice at all if you value your health and property.
@stfuplsok
@stfuplsok Жыл бұрын
RV-PowerWall you're* up would *affect
@MrRomanstefan
@MrRomanstefan 10 ай бұрын
Legend, just resuscitated an expensive battery pack. Suspected this battery may have been heavily discharged and left flat. All the cells tested (in small bunches) were ~1.2v (not consistent with cell failure). Carefully adding a little charge by jumping a full 18650 in a holder onto the multimeter probes worked great (maybe building a more permanent rig with a push to close switch may be handy if you do lots of this). De how this battery goes now the charger and controller were happy to charge it.
@pjpdjs
@pjpdjs 5 жыл бұрын
I've done that with dead NIMH cells too and it worked great to give it a "jump start" and only took about 20 seconds.
@DimiStranaHD
@DimiStranaHD 6 жыл бұрын
Buk Lau is that you?
@vuaeco
@vuaeco 5 жыл бұрын
Yesn't.
@captainblackbody6350
@captainblackbody6350 5 жыл бұрын
😇😆
@kimamabawitlung4366
@kimamabawitlung4366 5 жыл бұрын
😂😁
@CoffeyKingVlogs
@CoffeyKingVlogs 5 жыл бұрын
That's what i though!
@adavies971985
@adavies971985 5 жыл бұрын
You come build da houwe for mee.
@ralphbellstedt456
@ralphbellstedt456 6 жыл бұрын
Cool trick with the magnets, I will definitely remember that! Would be cool if you can check the capacity of a cell brought back to life like that and maybe try it with an old dead cell as well. BTW, what accent is that? Sounds cool.
@axelcramer3964
@axelcramer3964 3 жыл бұрын
I have a couple friends who are Vietnamese and their accents remind me of his. I also like that accent!
@mr89firebird
@mr89firebird 3 жыл бұрын
@@axelcramer3964 I was definitely thinking Southeast Asia
@tomcruise7095
@tomcruise7095 2 жыл бұрын
He is from the Philippines bro
@Gustoph420
@Gustoph420 2 жыл бұрын
Three replies about the accent. Zero about battery capacity. I’m also interested to know what the stats are on one of these “resurrected” cell, especially when compared to a new or even “like new” cell! I also like the accent. Very cool 😎
@aaron4587
@aaron4587 9 ай бұрын
This worked to recharge my Moza Air 2 batteries. Amazing! I didn't realize you could revive a depleted battery.
@harveysmidlap
@harveysmidlap Жыл бұрын
I took 2 pieces of twisted tin foil and held it across the ends and counted slowly to 15 and it worked. Thanks!!!
@jamesmana5247
@jamesmana5247 5 жыл бұрын
Great move using the magnets. Just curious how long will that battery last
@kiwijonowilson
@kiwijonowilson 4 жыл бұрын
You should really have some amount of resistance (like a 3V light bulb) in series between the two batteries to limit charge currently (even though it will take longer), as you likely over currenting the battery for a time with possible damage. Even more so if you try to charge a smaller capacity battery from a bigger charged cell, when it could potentially even cause a fire or battery rupture (in the smaller cell). I have an electronics engineering background and having seen lithium battery fires, I recommend treating lithium batteries with great care!
@prabhats860
@prabhats860 2 жыл бұрын
yes, these safeties must be told in such videos, ppl just look as this type of videos and jump into experiments without knowing harmful side of it. some times these batteries burst out like a bomb and cause serious injuries.
@carstrucks9641
@carstrucks9641 10 ай бұрын
Why didn't it burn huh?
@carstrucks9641
@carstrucks9641 10 ай бұрын
What amps and voltage is dangerous?
@danz9268
@danz9268 7 ай бұрын
At first I was skeptical but deeeeym, this works like a charm! Keep in mind though you need to follow what the guy said to charge it for no more than 30secs cuz in my case the battery got warm 20secs mark and I immediately removed it.
@TwitchFast
@TwitchFast 2 жыл бұрын
You can do this with your turnigy charger as well, just set it to NiMH and keep an eye on the voltage, since all you're really doing is bringing the voltage back up, the best part is chargers like your turnigy will let you trickle a small amount of charge to give it the best chance of revival without too much heat.
@rahulpathania78
@rahulpathania78 2 жыл бұрын
That's true.. NiMH uses more of volts than rest other settings, hence, it's just like connecting any other cell in parallel as shown. But again, change the settings from NiMH to Li-ion immediately else the battery would get too hot. Depending on how old and warn off the battery is, it may not hold the charge for longer if used against a load.
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