better test how long they last before taking a leak?

There are variety of choices in 18650 battery made in china. The 18650 is not a consumer standard, the channel that reaches consumer is chaos and mostly illegal (some are disqualified waste from factory, some are disassembly from electric waste). The reliable way to get those is to place order in batches to qualified factory or get them from disassembling qulaity yet cheap power bank like XiaoMi.

I think you may need to turn comments Off, the conspiracy theorists are going off on it 😂🤣

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@@suttikhoeisanit4632 I can't read Sanscrit 😂

I mean.....that's kind of a low bar...

😂😂😂 true.

That's awfully faint praise...

Holy shit

I totally agree. We all need to remember how much they are doing for us in future elections

with high *sheef* life

John Doe If the sheef life is only 10 years the shelf life must be 1000.

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made in USA! no, not the U.S.A., USA, China

Make great virus' though. And import is free.

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YES

@@HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat THREE years and counting. Not sure if these models (I can't think of a better word) are still available, but even so...

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True

I'm using an EFest 18650 battery in my vape mod which works fine, lasts me about a day of normal vaping using a 0.6 Ohm load. Tried several different Samsung blue and green batteries and they weren't any better. It depends on the application, including load and amperage draw.

When lying has no consequences.

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Thats hilarious!

hahaha. They do have a weird calendar I hear...lol

that's what she said

dog hours

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I agree!

you should publish your PROJECT FARM REPORTS. love from india.

@@ProjectFarm I say the same...I see other videos and they only test bad battery and if they test others r good battery they don"t have idea how to do it.

This channel is using a different way to demonize Chinese, westerners like to fabricate fake video to demonize China and finally fool people with no brain, it is disgusting, firstly, using the CHEAPEST China products to compare to the most branded non China product itself is ridiculous, secondly, the price of the China product mentioned in the video is more than 10 times cheaper in China than the price you mentioned in the video, so who you actually pay most of the price of the product to? The answer is THE IMPORTER AND MIDDLE MAN in your country. The real fact is CCP is already the current biggest high-tech entrepreneur and capitalist in the world, China contributes the most to the world and western countries grab the most with even inhuman measurements, it sounds ridiculous right? Use your brain to think further when you come across anything about China from westerners, western people are too jealous about the returning of the China power and tried very hard to fabricate fake videos, spread rumors to demonize China, shamelessness is continue until they destroy themselves with their inferior personality. Chai From Malaysia.

Beware of ultrafire..🤣

The name is a clue...your money goes up in smoke.

@@exgenica There a ton of fakes, the originals don't have a great reputation either, but the fakes with transparently obviously overstated capacities are all but certain to be worse.

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@@ProjectFarm Silence!

Deserved but I hold "silent" moments or prayer do little as God spoke all things into existence....out loud and that's how we should pray, even in private... IMO.

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@Terry Melvin paid 1/2 price, got 1/10 the battery...

@urbansnipe _"The no memory effect means you cant remember why the hell you bought them"_ That is hilarious, excellent twist.

I'm trying to forget why I bought mine. Cus I'm an idiot

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Thank you!

He takes like 4+ hours of content and condenses it down to 15 minutes filtering out all the crap. No bull crap here, just pure project farm science. I truly look forward to the day when he gets an approval license to put on products. Project farm approved is the future.

yes you do :)

@@DiavolO18 he could walk into home depot or Walmart with a roll of project farm approved stickers and start sticking them on products he approves of and I bet sales would go up a bit. If I walked in to home depot to get another cordless drill and saw his sticker on one, I wouldn't look at the price or the competition. I would simply grab it and go knowing it's good enough to pass his tests. That would also save a lot of time shopping too. That would easily shave off 20 minutes of my normal home depot or lowes trips.

@@TheSlimCognito Just grab MAKITA! THE BEST FOR RANGE. I'VE STILL GOT MAKITA TOOLS 38 YEARS OLD. THEY WORK LIKE NEW. ALL THEIR NEWER STUFF IS STILL TOPS TOO

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IKR! The first time I got in this channel, I feel iI have been blessed by this beautiful man. Saves me a lot of trouble form these scammer companies!

@@celhpwns That is because you already had a prepossessed opinion on Chinese products and having someone confirm that feels good. Everyone knows that the biggest capacity in an 18650 battery is around 3600mAh, so he knew he was testing a fake (counterfeit) UltraFire battery, even a quick look at the UlraFire web-sire revealed that the biggest 18650 they make is 3600mAh. This whole test is just a scam

@@ZZtop-gg3lu cool story bro.

Amazon. Thanks.

I've seen so many from efest and other Chinese brand, claiming monstrous capacity and skyrocketing amperage. The only things those battery are good for it's blow your hand off when you use them.

When they advertise a capacity 3 times the best cells on the market, I guess that's their way of telling you it's BS right from the start. But impressive sheef-life, eh?

@@BixbyConsequence yeah, and also you can feel the difference in weight right away, i've seen cells weight as much as 20 grams.

@Lics Norgi yeah i mean, it was kinda obvious

@Lics Norgi you are right but at the same time the only buying this type of cells are really the ones who don't know what they are doing. Sad fact is that there will always be a load of those kind of ppl.

Well, his voice did changed. Hahhahahaaa

10 Ah in a battery that small? What witchcraft is this? Only a solid state lithium ion battery can ever dream of getting close to that.

@tl6gc tl6gc not accidently... deliberately

@@unf3z4nt you could also use a plasma cell or argent energy storage or any other science fiction power source that doesn't exist

AA sized 9.8Ah batteries? Damn, Chinese can do all sort of high tech magic, just with lies in their dreams. Reality is more like 1-1.6 Ah.

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Thanks!

At this point he must spend so much time replying, I'm worried about him

Jinx your it!

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I think he realizes most of us a regular guys like him and we appreciate what he is doing is awesome!

@@trjb1767 absolutely. He puts so much effort and thought on every single video. It's just worth every second of the viewing time.

Glad you enjoy it!

Totally agreed with WilliamA93's comments :)

I'll agree also and give my 👍 👍 👍

I agree with Williams

This channel is using a different way to demonize Chinese, westerners like to fabricate fake video to demonize China and finally fool people with no brain, it is disgusting, firstly, using the CHEAPEST China products to compare to the most branded non China product itself is ridiculous, secondly, the price of the China product mentioned in the video is more than 10 times cheaper in China than the price you mentioned in the video, so who you actually pay most of the price of the product to? The answer is THE IMPORTER AND MIDDLE MAN in your country. The real fact is CCP is already the current biggest high-tech entrepreneur and capitalist in the world, China contributes the most to the world and western countries grab the most with even inhuman measurements, it sounds ridiculous right? Use your brain to think further when you come across anything about China from westerners, western people are too jealous about the returning of the China power and tried very hard to fabricate fake videos, spread rumors to demonize China, shamelessness is continue until they destroy themselves with their inferior personality. Chai From Malaysia.

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haha typical chinese products, all bluff and no substance

@@TheGregstorm The real red flag is when you cannot find the production country, because they know people will not buy when they see "Made in China"

No they just lie.we found that out in the last few weeks

They also misspelled shelf... "sheef" and "shell"

Yes, you are right! Great point! I hope this video helps many viewers avoid the 18650 battery scam.

Ahhh, ancient Chinese secret

Just like the 1/10 amp LED flashlights that have "15,000 lumens" 😆

@@r.h.5052 Apparently the "Ancient Chinese Secret" has been exposed after all these eons: Lie about everything, all the time.

@@dasworkshop4967 yeah bcs they know only 10 in 1000 ppl will complain and they refund a few $ but make a ton of profit. their business model is all about acceptable liability

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It's like they don't even try.

@@FakeJeep they don't

@@stevenkendzierski9333 300 Chinamen died in hilariously negligent accidents to bring you those batteries.

Google translate

Chinglish.

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"These new batteries are FIRE!"

Sook! Carrying your racist hatred of the Chinese a bit far..... yes?

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@@ProjectFarm try liitokala , they make good batteries

Thank you, we have a major hardware store chain called "Harbor Freight" that specializes in extremely cheap Chinese tools, perfect for getting a job or two done. Well, over the last few years, they now sell a high-end Chinese tool selection as well. Their top-tier items are equal to or better than the most trusted brand names (which are often made in China) but at a really attractive price-point.

how r u using youtube

@@samnass Very affordable, very reliable. I'm using them for 2-3 years now. Able to operate a vape, but it's a friend of mine using it, so have no control over them. He is satisfied with them. I'm powering my projects with them and even have a motion sensored night light which is running for 5 months now, expecting to drain in a month or two.

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@@samueladitya303 Does not mater, same result, same source.

you can tell them what to print and you tell them what quality you want to sell , dewalts, craftsman, ryiobi ,etc... they all come from china branded by a company prestige or not ... you get what you pay for is the name of the game , so you cheat yourself by going cheap !

@@rondoanderson it just tell its color. this statement is 100% truth.

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lol

Great test idea! I'll check back later to see how many thumbs up this one gets for a future video. I'll definitely do it if there's enough interest.

@@ProjectFarm do it lol

It's kinda test especially for @Project Farm :) would love to see that in the future.

I’d like to see this as well, I work for a small business that sells Amsoil products and it would be cool to see.

@Eat Jat You're full of crap.

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...there is a conspiracy to stop them, and only the courageous Chinese manufacturers will stand up for us?

@@SuperPhunThyme9 LOL putting a 9,999mAh battery with actual of 1200+ mAh? more of deception rather than courageous.

@@animeQs. aw, now they wouldnt do that. That would be lying.....I suppose next you'll tell me they skim cooking oil from the sewage gutter, filter it at small scale factories, and sell it to street food stalls....or even...gasp...pirate dvds without paying royalties to MGM!

@@SuperPhunThyme9 oh you don't know? they really are selling pirated dvds you're really ignorant after all.LMAO

It's a double edge, I picked up network splitters, USB splitters and such from those typical no names, when you pop them open and look how simple the PCB is set up, you need to question the larger companies and the backroom deals to keep something high for consumers. Stuff like this, never trust your livelihood with, definitely.

Guaranteed FIRE

I find watching fires relaxing, too. Wait!! Not in my workshop!! Ahh!!

You mean the name is suggestive of it's qualities and behaviors, right? Lol

Perfect for when you are in antártica and you need to make a campfire

Fake china. Fack china!

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Thanks!

Great point. Thank you

You would think it would be worth their time to pay someone that speaks English to proofread their stuff before making a fool out of themselves with printing. Nothing says unprofessional like 3rd-grade spelling.

Take the battery wraps off and see what they really are.

@@Juantontiki maybe compare it with the good ones also. It would be a waste but educational to all of us.

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Hear, hear.

I concur.

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Thanks for watching.

How about the "Encironmental Friendly" at 4:08? LOL

Check out the site 'Engrish -dot - com'

@Nothing Noone True, the same Chinese factory.

@Nothing Noone If it's made in China it's not likely to be what the label states.

lol. Nice!

I’m going to steal this line :)

Ha! You win the internet for the day sir

@@nestormoctezuma4695 Then you're going to be charged with assault and battery!

I see what you did there. lol

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No, it says "Encironmental Friendly." lol.

@Lics Norgi Okay, lets see how well you do using a foreign language that you have no or limited knowledge of; and on top of that, lets make that foreign language use an entirely different written system, as using a common alphabet isn't comparable from going from Chinese to English. You can't really complain about someone else's use of a language when you clearly don't fully understand the language itself, try teaching yourself some grammar, so you can actually look literate. Things such as capitalizing 'Chinese,' putting an apostrophe in 'can't,' maybe try adding a comma after 'dumb' as well, you might also want to add 'people' after 'Chinese.' Also, when using, "... craps," do you mean to use 'pieces of crap'? Not to mention the, "... fake...,' part of that statement is outright false, what makes them fake? They're an _alternative_ product; if they were fake they just wouldn't work, at all, like a dummy place holder. If you don't understand what an alternative product is, look at name brands and generic brands that offer the same product. Typical hypocritical, uneducated, racist scum, it seems, as you clearly don't know what grammar is, can't form a proper statement, use proper logic, have any kind of informed opinion, and you single out a specific people when the situation could happen to any foreign people. Please, keep your toxicity to yourself. Nobody wants to see your racist, hypocritical, uneducated, and uniformed opinions. If you feel the need to be racist, go seek help.

One of them said Shell Life. Shell game.

@@billkaroly Well it's right, life is just as rigged as a conman on the side of the streets shell game. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grmIddVqtbHUf2Q.html

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Ikr ? This guy is dedicated to helping the "little guy"/consumer. Which, if you think about it, alot of companies don't even care about. They just want your $100-300 for a project and then you learn, if I had spent +$20-50 bucks on this other brand, it would last longer. Or if I had purchased this item, it would save your money. I'm surprised "consumer report" hasn't tried to buy his silence.

P-town represent

Packs in the relevant info, no wasted time. Perfect.

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Thanks, will do! Thanks for the video idea.

The only thing that kinda sucks is I can’t find any of the name brand batteries on Amazon.

Its a wonder noone sued them yet.

@@crimsonsnow5888 nothing would happen they are protected by the CCP

@@Alexander_l322 ahh right. But we live to do buisiness with them.... thats so sad

@@Alexander_l322 Community College of Philadelphia? haha.

@@martindeloach9905 haha it’s the Chinese Communist Party

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The reason he says do research is because there are a bunch of clones out there. You would need the manufactures spec. Trust me too I have been burned esp on Amazon and Ebay.

@William Lloyd-Roberts LOL we sure do.

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Every time!

Chip Atkinson exactly right bro I’d believe him over these others

usually these kinds of comments are worrying... but after watching the whole video, i totally agree

you don't take a random garbage brand batter in China and compare it with LG or Samsung... this is so biased. There are hundreds of decent brand batteries in China yet you choose one of the most low-quality ones...

This channel clearly does no research at all. A quick search on the website of UltraFire revealed thet the biggest 18650 battery they make is 3600mAh and weighs 93 grams. If he did any research he would know that, don't trust some random guy on KZfaq

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@@ProjectFarm You're a legend for still replying after all this time! Thank you for the great content!

Any multimeter can do that

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Not shocking at all to me. One friend of me told me main difference between Japan and China is in Japan 98% of businesses really want to make a fair deal not even thinking about any scam rest are either unintentional or intentional frauds. In China 99% of businesses are trying to exploit you or scam you (I'm not saying you cannot make a good deal but you'll have to have really thorough QC).

@@ProjectFarm You really should have included Molicel though (E-One Moli Energy Corp, Taiwan) with 0ver 40 years experience in battery technology - currently the best on the market, as tested by Battery Mooch, licenced electrical engineer and consultant on energy storage characterisation to power suppliers, broadcasters, and the US Army, among other clients. I'm sure Molicel would be happy to supply a set of each of their high current and high capacity cells in each major format for testing.

The off brand batteries are generally batteries bought from major producers that couldn't make the cut so they will generally always never match their specs even if they seem reasonable

@Huo Yeh Damn, to think of the money I wasted on the 24 Molicel P28A batteries that I currently have in use, with their 2,800 mAh capacity and 25A continuous discharge rate, identical to the 8 lower capacity P26A 2,600mAh I still have, or the two Molicel M35As that I use in less power-hungry devices because they can only deliver 10A continuous, but have a 3,500mAh capacity- you know, the ones made in the country in which the temporarily exiled Republic of China government still holds power while the rest of their rightful territory on the mainland is occupied by the CCP genocidal terrorists. Those made under the CCP are bound to have fraudulent markings because they can't help lying about anything. They even deny the genocides they commit in full view of even privately-owned satellites, so to ask if they also lie about battery capabilities is like asking if fleas bite - of course they do, it is in their nature.

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China makes crap and lies. What else is new??

Lmfao the divide by 10 part got me

Always a gamble, odds heavily against consumers

That may not be enough of a factor.

Or just don't buy the cheapest shit you can find and look for reviews....

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lol. Great point!

@@ProjectFarm Close enough. like Taryl says, 'It ain't the space shuttle'!

Like the CASTNOO said "encironmental friendly". No Y & oops on the v

Misspelling probably helps protect them from legal obligations.

Glad I wasn’t the only one that noticed that

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Who's going to do it...... ..nobody

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I second that. Amazing detail. To the point. I’m a subscriber now. Thanks!

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I think 3500 to 3600 is max for 18650 . The 21700 are 5100 mah is what im impressed with acebeam makes those

Of course it isn't. The printed specs are straight up lies.

@@Slicerwizard no no no......china just has its own measurement system, the confusing part is they use the same unit names but not standards. yeeeaaaahhhh. thats it. its not a lie, you just forgot to do the unit conversion.

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@@chip_stack are those around the same size as the 18650? I am looking to replace some in a few power tools etc. also what's their am draw rated for?

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I agree, he's definitely not a sell out bitch like other channels. An I'll be honest the only channel I tolerate ads

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Insane that something like that can be sold.

Well, in order to make a battery with an impossible capacity at an incredible price, they had to shave a corner on spelling and grammar.

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all china products should be banned

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This channel is using a different way to demonize Chinese, westerners like to fabricate fake video to demonize China and finally fool people with no brain, it is disgusting, firstly, using the CHEAPEST China products to compare to the most branded non China product itself is ridiculous, secondly, the price of the China product mentioned in the video is more than 10 times cheaper in China than the price you mentioned in the video, so who you actually pay most of the price of the product to? The answer is THE IMPORTER AND MIDDLE MAN in your country. The real fact is CCP is already the current biggest high-tech entrepreneur and capitalist in the world, China contributes the most to the world and western countries grab the most with even inhuman measurements, it sounds ridiculous right? Use your brain to think further when you come across anything about China from westerners, western people are too jealous about the returning of the China power and tried very hard to fabricate fake videos, spread rumors to demonize China, shamelessness is continue until they destroy themselves with their inferior personality. Chai From Malaysia.

@@klchai7884 dude it's not possible to fit 9.8 Ah in a cell that normally fits 1/3 of that when they use the *exact same technology*. so naturally the only possibility is the company claiming 9.8 Ah is lying. obviously not every company is the same, but this company is lying.

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lol

I was about to post this exact thing! Crazy!

Also one has a shell life

* legally not binding

@@ThriftyToolShed Me too

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@@Ormagoden94 What? The batteries in vape pens are usually lithium polymer, they aren't nearly as bad as 18650. Also, did they get killed by poisoning? There's no way the explosion from a small lithium polymer battery could kill someone unless they held it pressed right next to an artery or something. Or was there a time and place that 18650 was common in vape pens? Those would be a serious hazard and I could see that being able to kill someone.

@@skitidet4302 There are a lot of bigger vape machines that use 2x 18650 batteries. You need those if you want to do up to 200 W sub-ohm vaping (meaning the coil has as little as 0.1 ohm resistance). They are more fun than the pens because they can produce a huge amount of vapor, but they fell a little out of favor because only massive douchebags used them in public spaces. They can basically be turned into fog generators with the right liquid. On the other hand, these are not a danger at all if you buy good 18650 cells like the Murata (former Sony) VTC5 or VTC6 and if you are a little careful with the cells. Put some additional shrink-wrap over them to prevent exposed metal, only transport them in silicon "socks" or battery boxes, and only use good, reliable charging devices. I've been using them at home for many years and never had a problem nor have I ever been worried. I mean, I used to do some rc model drone flying. Those high-amp drone LiPos can give you the creeps. But brand-name high-quality 18650s? No, they're fine. (I never crush them or hit them with hammers)

@@maximilianmustermann5763 Thanks for the info. I don't think I've seen one of those, or if I have, I didn't recognize it as vaping equipment.

@@skitidet4302 A loud 'k-pow' from daughter's workbench. Me: "Arrrrrghh!!!" (now face down in plate of spaghetti) Medic: "Set biphasic defib to 200 joules. CLEAR!" Anonymous: Playing taps with bugle. (...an _"or something"_)

@@exgenica cool story bro..

It balances out when they removed multiple zeros in their corona deaths

Adding zero adds nothing... right?

No the politicians are cheating us while lining their pockets and wasting , no, making money on natural resources.

Yeah, I started going out of my way to avoid buying chinese.

@@jasonblahafitness6349 that's like going vegan lol. Pretty damn hard to do nowadays sadly. Kudos for sure though.

That doesn't make sense. Paypal has nothing to do with battery sales.

you should pull the resalers of such scam to the justice !!!

But their 10TB USB thumb drives for $2 are such a good deal. LOL

@@unknown_10453 oh, but they do...transferring money is their job...and they support any transaction with china, favoring china in any dispute.

Actually, what's REALLY disgusting is how Musk, who SAYS Tesla makes their own batteries but actually buys them from PANASONIC, says he's getting the best batteries for under $1.70/cell. Even with a wholesale discount that's a total lie. Yet he reports to the world every quarter that he makes 20-30% margin per car, instead of being honest and admitting he's LOSING some $10k per car. That, and people are so desperately willing to believe him.

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