DIY: P2008 Is it safe to use the Resistor for the OM642 swirl flap motor failure?

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Жыл бұрын

2007 Mercedes-Benz ML320 CDI Diesel motor with the error code P2008 Swirl motor failure. I'll go over how to check to make sure its safe to use the Resistor Fix and how to put a resistor in to get by until the whole repair can be done.
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@charlesnash2748 Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks.

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@YounisKhan-lg6ee 2 ай бұрын

Thanks I’ll let you know if I have any problems

@KKE1978 Жыл бұрын

Thank you thank you....most videos on you tube just go straight to the mode before addressing the issue of making sure the flaps are open

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

Glad you found it helpful! I found the same thing, very few people seemed to even check to make sure they were open. I was mainly just glad I didn’t have the pull another intake assembly off 😂 Thanks for watching!

@KKE1978 Жыл бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor i think mine are stuck. They should move easily i assume

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

@@KKE1978 yes, they move pretty easily when not connected to the motor. But the motor is very hard to move and spring loaded to return to open. So if they are hard to move it could be the motor is seized. Or they are clogged or both. 😢

@KKE1978 Жыл бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor thanks for replying. So how do you find out it if either of those two scenarios are present when still in the car?? How did you move yours to the open positin while still in the car

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

@@KKE1978 the first one I did I took the manifold out and found the intake very clogged up. So I cleaned it and make sure it was all functional before I disabled the flaps. This one I got an error message that the swirl motor had failed and the car went into limp mode. So I assumed the motor had died. Once I determined that the flaps were open I just disabled the motor so they will stay in the open position. If the motor had failed in the closed position I would probably try to pry or push them open, but if that failed I would remove the manifolds and repair the flaps or remove them.

@loslajares Жыл бұрын

Very good video!!! When you put the resistor and the car is not runing the flaps are open or closed? Thanks for your time

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

When the car is OFF the flaps should be open. The reason I check to make sure they are in the open position is over time, with build up, the buildup on the flaps can make them hard to move, and they may not close all the way. That is one of the things that leads to the failure of the motor. So they should be open, but I check to make sure before putting the resistor in.

@Peter-wo4uo 11 ай бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor My swirl flap motor works fine, its just that the links are so tired they wont close and open all the way.

@MalarkeyTaylor 11 ай бұрын

@@Peter-wo4uo yes, that has been the case that I have observed as well. However the linkage eventually wears out and breaks. Or the motor seizes up, or oil leaking from batwing/ccv directly above it cause the motor to fail. So disabling it just leaves them open when the flaps are open. So far so good on the three that I’ve worked on. 🤞

@miraclervs Жыл бұрын

Is there a potential long term issue if you put resistor in and one or both banks are closed? I put resistor in mine and I have turbo now but didn’t check the linkage...

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

I think mostly power loss and additional carbon build up in the intake. But I’m not sure if there are others too.

@MrCosmin94 9 ай бұрын

I think mine are closed. Done the resistor mod and now I cant hear the turbo and car is kinda slow. Not in limo mode but because it goes over 3000rpm. Just slow.

@AS-vt8tw Жыл бұрын

hey my Mercedes w211 e270 2005 model code shows y27/9 left egr positioner fault what can I do with it. How to repair this

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

Sorry I don’t have experience with the w211. The autel scanner would be able to read the codes and possibly run some tests on the function of the module. But I’m sorry I can’t help beyond that.

@eea999 Жыл бұрын

How do you do, lets say if the intake runners are stuck in the middle lets say, not full open position? Can you move them by hand? Thanks

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

As long as they can be moved you should be able to move them. But if the buildup in the intake is too much or if there is a blockage, or if the swirl motor is seized up one or more of those might prevent you from opening the valve and then moving by hand would be difficult or impossible.

@eea999 Жыл бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor great. Thanks. I want to check if mine is not working properly. No codes so far no limp mode. But car is not giving the same kick as it used to

@robertofretes7483 Жыл бұрын

gran video , estoy con el mismo problema , mismo codigo , me podrias dar informacion de la resistencia , codigo de colores asi la puedo conseguir , muchas gracias

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

Sorry my Spanish is not great, but the resistor I used was a 4.7k ohm generic one from Amazon.

@robertofretes7483 Жыл бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor muchas gracias , gran video

@Fintanmccormack666 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2009 Mercedes c class 250 sport diesel it’s saying charge movement flap malfunction what is by cheapest safest option can I delete the motor /flaps off the ecu

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

Sorry I don’t know the c250 motor. It might be able to be bypassed in the same way but I am not sure.

@jamessizer5939 7 ай бұрын

Do you know how long this will last or any further issues this will cause when done? Also can this method be done if the passenger side is seized shut in the closed position? Thanks

@MalarkeyTaylor 7 ай бұрын

The ones I have done have gone 50,000+ miles without any issues in this configuration. However you should make sure that both sides are in the open position or you could have performance problems and improper fuel burn which may lead to some after treatment failures.

@jamessizer5939 7 ай бұрын

Thanks

@tefimk6144 19 күн бұрын

Hello , do I need to move with hand first those flaps to open position , or just to put resistor ?

@MalarkeyTaylor 19 күн бұрын

If they are not in the open position when you put the resistor in the engine light may go away but your engine may not perform right and may end up with problems due to the flaps not being open. If they can’t be easily opened by hand you may need to take the entire intake off and clean it and fix the worn connecting rods to get the full range of the flaps back. Or delete them entirely.

@user-it6hm8vy8w 8 ай бұрын

Hi thank you for you video,i have the same issue on my dodge sprinter 2500 with codes p2004 p2005 and i removed an actuator, i put flaps in open position and tied it up so it doesn’t close and then i put 0.25w 4.7k ohm resistor and it didn’t help because after an hour check engine light came on again.i tried many different resistor and now i put 0.5w 4.7k ohm resistor and check engine light didn’t come up yet but car is not kicking as it used to.Is there any ideas what can i do. Thanks

@MalarkeyTaylor 8 ай бұрын

You might have to check with the details on your specific year. Some newer models have sensors on the flap runners that detect when the flaps are open and when they are closed. In my case there is no sensor so the engine computer doesn't know if the flap motor is broken unless it burns out. But in some newer models there are magnets in the flap runners and Hall effect sensors in the manifold that indicate the position to the ECM. If your Sprinter is newer and has these sensors you may need to check with a mechanic on the right next steps, (or ignore the Check Engine light until 'proper' repairs can be made)

@user-it6hm8vy8w 8 ай бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor Thank you for your response and communication.My car is 2008 dodge sprinter 3.0l v6 with regular plastic runners and i dont think there is a any sensors left.Just wondering If you know where is the sensor that tells position of flaps and can i delete them or delete the flaps how it would affect to limp mode and smog check.Thank you again i really appreciate what you do

@MalarkeyTaylor 8 ай бұрын

@@user-it6hm8vy8w I’m not sure I can help. None of the ones I’ve worked on have had the issue come back after the application of the resistor and securing of the flaps.

@user-tv2tz4br1d 11 ай бұрын

How did you actually confirm that the swirl flaps were in the open position. I did not see that in the video. Would they default to an open position.

@MalarkeyTaylor 11 ай бұрын

I refer to it extensively in the video. But a diagram is at 3:46 in the video. I have had these motors apart a few times and was able to verify the open position by referring to previous projects where I had the intakes removed from the car. I discuss this beginning at 02:05 in this video. The flaps Do default to open but when the motors start to go or the linkage becomes worn they can begin getting stuck halfway closed or closed and I wanted to verify they were open before putting tv resistor in.

@YounisKhan-lg6ee 2 ай бұрын

Hi if how long this resisters can last , eventually do you have to fix the main problem swirl flap

@MalarkeyTaylor 2 ай бұрын

I have done this to two different trucks now. One of them went 40,000 miles and two plus years before it was totaled in an accident. The other is still going after 25,000miles and a little over a year. So if there is a limit I have not found it yet.

@AK-zz8ju Жыл бұрын

Hey buddy does the check engine light comes back on later

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

I’ve done this with two of them and both have not gotten any more engine lights related to this issue. One has run over 3 years and 40,000miles and the other is a little under a year and 8-9kmiles

@benmalka4257 4 ай бұрын

Hi, sorry for the time, have a question I want to use the resistor but should I open the flap by myself or keep them in the same position?

@MalarkeyTaylor 4 ай бұрын

They should be in the open position if they are not stuck. If you can move them to open or make sure they are open it’s best. If they are stuck or broken the resistor may get rid of the motor failure codes, but the motor may have other issues because of the restricted intake. I guess use caution and your best judgement. And if you’re not sure, you may need to consult a mechanic.

@benmalka4257 4 ай бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor OK I will stay them open but should I grab them or just move the shaft, and should I separate them from their motor?

@MalarkeyTaylor 4 ай бұрын

@@benmalka4257 the motor is what keeps them open normally. So unhooking from the motor might result in them closing when they shouldn’t.

@benmalka4257 4 ай бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor I’d like to keep them always open is it possible? Im going to remove the intake manifold tomrrow, I want to overtake their motor

@karldingbat 10 ай бұрын

The motor and flaps have been totally removed and coded out of the ecu on my car

@MalarkeyTaylor 10 ай бұрын

If I ever have the intake manifolds out again on either my dad's or mine I will weld them shut for sure. And if I ever have a need to refresh the Computer I'll get them flashed out as well. A very good option to do that!

@boskokukucka5588 5 ай бұрын

when swirl motor is bypassed and flaps permenantly placed in an open position does this eliminate the engine braking or some call it compression braking effect when car is not accelerating. From what I understand the breaking effect is caused by flaps closing when gas pedal is not pressed.... when you are coasting.. This is especially noticeable at low speeds.

@MalarkeyTaylor 5 ай бұрын

No, no noticeable difference in engine braking. In fact, I have not noticed any difference in performance, fuel economy, or operation of any kind since disabling the flaps on any of the ones I’ve done.

@SeeBird686 3 ай бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor I have this engine in my Jeep Grand Cherokee and have deleted the whole swirl flap system and kept just the resistor in place. The way i heard it the swirl flaps were designed to make the diesel engine sound less like a diesel when idling. I like diesels so don`t care, had zero issues since,,,

@MalarkeyTaylor 3 ай бұрын

@@SeeBird686 there are a few gas engines that use swirl flaps as well. There is something about making the right amount of turbulence to optimize the flow of air. But I too have disabled them for a long time with no noticeable effect.

@Peter-wo4uo 10 ай бұрын

Will a 0.25w 4.7k ohm resistor work?

@MalarkeyTaylor 10 ай бұрын

Yes that is what I used.

@SeekingPips 7 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for creating and sharing this video. Does it matter or is one preferred over the other metal or carbon film resistor? Thanks again👍

@jareksos4815 Жыл бұрын

what resistor did you put in?

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

I it was a 4.7k ohm generic one from Amazon.

@jareksos4815 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@user-nw3tf5yn4t 9 ай бұрын

But how much watts?

@mercedesbenzi1259 Жыл бұрын

Is the fail code p2513?

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

No, for this failure it was 2530-4 (on the auto scanner and 2008 on the generic OBD scanner) I think 2513 may also be a swirl motor related problem, but this is not the code I received on this particular unit.

@mercedesbenzi1259 Жыл бұрын

@@MalarkeyTaylor you think i can do the same with this failure?

@MalarkeyTaylor Жыл бұрын

@@mercedesbenzi1259 Sorry I'm not sure. Some newer motors have position sensors that could cause the fix to not work for that. I don't know. It's probably best to take to a qualified work shop, or keeping research o find out what the code means for your particular car. I've use AlldataDIY subscription before to help troubleshoot, but some may take some trial and error.

@user-nw3tf5yn4t 9 ай бұрын

I had 2513 code on my 320 cdi, and the rest of the code is m 55

@zuendler1980 6 ай бұрын

Cheating the engine failure detection is not a fix. You can also destroy the engine warning LED. Fixes all failures for zero bucks.

@MalarkeyTaylor 6 ай бұрын

Keeping the engine out of limp mode. Because of poorly designed intake manifolds and barely useful “swirl” flaps is hardly cheating anything. This tip is for people that want to get 250-300k or more miles out of a car that was written off because the repair cost more than its value. If you are not interested in that sell it and buy a new one that doesn’t need this fix.