Diy Sand battery V2 - heat battery

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Diy Sand battery V2 or heat battery!
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@ashmcconnell3868 Жыл бұрын

I really love the solution for heating the sand, really simple and effective. Great video! I wish I had the skills to connect a bigger version of this up to my central heating. Heating the battery with cheap overnight electricity and using it during the day would be great for winter. Decarbonises heating and should be much cheaper than oil or gas

@wxdr1 Жыл бұрын

Just FYI, love your videos. They are as good as TV shows. Matter of fact I think I’m going to go back and binge your channel!

@aleksandar7393 Жыл бұрын

Next time to measure glossy metallic object or foil, just put drop of cooking oil over it and smear and you will be able to get temperature reading.

@enaudeni Жыл бұрын

Brilliant! What about using a solar panel to power it during the day, then by using a copper coil circuit, pump water through it at night to use the heat? Or atleast a test on the size of solar panel to size of sand battery for maximum efficiency? There are many possiblities with this, thanks for sharing.

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

Yes,... the power source can be anything to heat the sand battery. And also the system can be made in many ways.

@Impermeabilizacionesinc 5 ай бұрын

Can I ad cement and heat whit rocket oven ?

@RipBChord 5 ай бұрын

What I would love to do is run or at least preheat my backyard foundry. Copper/bronze take a lot of fuel…. Even if I could save a small amount it could mean a lot of savings

@fransjebik8554 Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you very much. This week I foubd,an element heater that uses only 25Watt. I will try it in my sandstove and,will make than a new video. Great idea, thanks again! 💗

@ismailkalfa400 Жыл бұрын

great work. So what did you use as the carbon black? Something like n220-n330?

@stevejorgensen8123 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic idea!! thinking outside the box. I was thinking about making a sand battery using a rocket stove and waste oil to heat the battery, but this idea is so much better and easier. I have a wind generator that I would use to power the carbon sand battery, that way I wouldn't need batteries or need as many of them. Robert should try this one. Again, great idea and hope you follow through with more infor on this idea.

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes I will look more into this sand battery

@stevejorgensen8123 Жыл бұрын

OK, I am trying to build one like yours. I dried the sand and that does not have any conductive. So I used some undried sand and that is conductive, so how much moisture is in your sand. I am using graphite, will that work? or do I have to use carbon black? I have used about half of the graphite and the lowest ohms reading was in the 50's. it is going to take a lot of graphite. if carbon black is better, could you provide a link to get some, most of the carbon black on amazon seems to be non-conductive or for dyeing. I think this idea of conductive sand used in a thermo mass storage device is a game changer.

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

@@stevejorgensen8123 Hi! My sand is dry because the sand battery heat up over 100 deg C which means that all the water is evaporated. Yes, you can use graphite. 50 ohms os not so bad, because in this case if the ohms are higher then you need higher voltage. Also more you press together the conductive sand more conductive will be.

@stevejorgensen8123 Жыл бұрын

@@cayrex Thanks for the reply. I tried to compact it and the graphite make it slick, won't stay compact, but did get the ohms down to 50-60 area. Hooked up the battery charger at 6VDC and no go, no current flow. increase voltage to 12 VDC and still no current, increase to 14 VDC and still no current flow. I added some salt and little water, thinking that would improve current flow, no go. I must be missing something or doing something wrong.

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

@@stevejorgensen8123 Uf, for around 60 ohms you will need higher voltage

@Andy-df5fj 7 ай бұрын

The copper may just seem hotter than the sand because it's a much better conductor. Try painting the pipe flat black to be able to get a reading.

@Buzzhumma Жыл бұрын

I also found stainless mesh helped avoid hot spots which became a problem with a tin can as electrode .

@ashmcconnell3868 Жыл бұрын

Does that replace the copper pipe? How would it be arranged? Thanks!

@Buzzhumma Жыл бұрын

@@ashmcconnell3868 I had mine go into the bottom and back up again like a u turn but no hard creases !

@thomaslloyd82 3 ай бұрын

@@Buzzhummajust wondering if you done more on this. Just starting my journey

@Buzzhumma 3 ай бұрын

@@thomaslloyd82 no i moved on as i found it very messy with graphite and the hot spots where a problem .

@slimel-gharbi8170 8 ай бұрын

Excellent Job Man ! BRAVO

@zylascope Жыл бұрын

I suppose you could use a peltier device to generate the power after it's hot. It seems a simple thing to try. I'll have to give that a go. Thanks for sharing.

@christophergrove4876 Жыл бұрын

🇨🇦/🇺🇸... Fascinating idea!!!!

@dinosaur0073 6 ай бұрын

Thank you...very helpful 😊

@zylascope Жыл бұрын

Genius idea Cayrex.

@unionse7en 9 ай бұрын

resistance at the media to copper electrode interface is probably higher than the average? So maybe increased it there.? I'm am wondering what the most durable (oxidation ,corrosion) electrode materials will be. Maybe I'll make one too.

@Buzzhumma Жыл бұрын

I was thinking about using a 100 watt incandescent globe encased in clay and keep the bottom exposed to utilise the light at night and then the heat for charging phone or lighting led . Not sure if globe will break with expansion though .

@MaMi-gy8ln Жыл бұрын

Great and iteresant experiment. Can you put on bottom layer of gypsum(plaster paris), layer of carbon black with electrical contact with Cu-tube and rest of sand above carbon black whithout mixing with sand?

@MicheleBorghiOfficial 11 ай бұрын

Hello beautiful video. I wanted to know if you used normal sand or red clay for this experiment?

@cayrex 11 ай бұрын

Thank you. Just normal sand which you can get in construction store.

@iliasanisis7799 Жыл бұрын

Excellent

@pingxinwang9632 Жыл бұрын

Good work!

@sultanast Жыл бұрын

Hi Cayrex2, thanks for the great video. I'm not sure about the heat capacity of a pure black carbon powder, but how about to use it without sand? Melting T is higher than sand as well as conductivity of heat and electricity. Have anyone tried it?

@michaelhansen6977 Жыл бұрын

Very cool

@edwingolddelirium Жыл бұрын

Hi,Where do you buy that carbon black.

@guachingman 10 ай бұрын

Best one yet

@terrafirma9328 Жыл бұрын

Unless your using a solar panel to power this, you might as well just use a basic electric heater. The purpose of a sand battery is to store extra energy for later use when the sun isn't up to provide the energy, be it electric or heat.

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

Correct,... the sand battery store the heat for later.

@exoplanet11 10 ай бұрын

I like the idea. The sand at the beach near where I live is interspersed with a large amount of Iron crystals. I wonder how well it would conduct?

@cayrex 10 ай бұрын

Hmm,.... the iron will be more in form of iron oxide, which is not so conductive.

@chronobot2001 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if you could use this same concept to make a dummy load to test shortwave transmitters?

@maxkennedy5073 Жыл бұрын

Any idea as to efficiency? Would there be a maximum temperature it should reach? Could it be used similar to an ETS unit (electrothermal storage) that can reach very high temperatures?

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

No idea about efficiency for now. The temperature is based on the power input. Lower power lower temperature and so on. The temperature can be way higher as I get for now

@joshuagrant3821 Жыл бұрын

How long would a small can like that take to discharge all of its stored heat? How far away can you feel it?

@NdxtremePro Жыл бұрын

That would depend on the temps starting inside the battery, the temp outside the battery, any insulation on the battery, and how you are drawing the heat out, I.e. are you letting the heat dissipate or do you have air or water running through it?

@solarforfuture Жыл бұрын

scrap copper pipe as heater.connector.. gold!

@Buzzhumma Жыл бұрын

Wrap it up in rock wool and put in another container and see how long it can stay hot . I will be putting a tec on mine when they arrive and charge my phone and some led lights 👍🏻

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

I have several Tec devices to try.

@Buzzhumma Жыл бұрын

@@cayrex excellent . I guess you sit it on one with a cpu heat sink in ice water ?

@chasl3645 Жыл бұрын

Try it with limestone rock dust passing 200 sive.

@bwerumaster6691 7 ай бұрын

IS the black sand a mixture of sand and normal charcoal? Thanks

@cayrex 7 ай бұрын

No,... it is mixed with carbon black. But it can be used a graphite also. Because the carbon black is harder to find.

@moadpih4959 Жыл бұрын

خطوات موثير ✌

@lorifilm Жыл бұрын

The paper isolation will probably burn, maybe a piece of mica? Is that black stuff from your stove or do you buy it?

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

On high temperatures, yes. Good idea about mica,.... also can be used ceramic or glass wool, etc

@lorifilm Жыл бұрын

@@cayrex And the black stuff? Here in HU is nothing available under this name as "carbon black".

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

@@lorifilm I think that conductive carbon black is a bit harder to find because is a special stuff for special applications. For that reason you need to search in other countries. Search for super P carbon black, ketjen black, super c45 or c65, acetylene carbon black,..... and so on

@lorifilm Жыл бұрын

@@cayrex Hvala! You can get it in slovenia? (assumed from the sodium silicate bottle)

@serotonin67 Жыл бұрын

I like this! Yet, I wish you could tell us more about the following: 1. Did you wet the sand with any electrolyte? Or was it dry? 2. Did you wet the Carbon Black with any electrolyte? Or was it dry? 3. If wet with electrolyte, please measure the voltage, Since then you are making a battery that is dependent on a chemical reaction. If not, then I truly wish you well and hope you are making a follow up video.

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

I dont wet anything,... no sand and no carbon. The device go o er 100C so in that case the electrolyte will evaporate.

@serotonin67 Жыл бұрын

@@cayrex Thanks, now to replicate a little of your effort for us DIY'ers, can you recommend where you got YOUR CARBON BLACK from ? Did you make your own? If, yes then please explain. Another video?

@fuarkcrazyman7002 Жыл бұрын

@@cayrex bro if we put on it the peltier cell can have a good power ? Is nice idea if can use in this way for turn on one computer ect...

@bat-ireeduienkhbat7461 Жыл бұрын

Wow. What if u use a higher voltage? Will there be problems?

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

Yes,... more temperature 😃

@purplecatty 7 ай бұрын

Where do you get carbon black? I tried to google and can't find it. I only found small can of carbon black sells for $16 in amazon. Wasn't sure if that's the same kind. Can you tell me where I can get it? Thanks!

@cayrex 7 ай бұрын

Oh I order the carbons direct from companies like Imerys for super p cabon black or timcal.

@TomorrowTom1337 Жыл бұрын

What is the best way to get the carbon black? Is it normal graphite powder?

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

Carbon black and graphite is not the same. But you can use graphite. The point is that you make the sand conductive

@TomorrowTom1337 Жыл бұрын

@@cayrex thank you for your response!

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

@@TomorrowTom1337 ah, no problem

@Buzzhumma Жыл бұрын

I moved on from the graphite sand battery as the graphite was just was to messy to deal with but conductive carbon might be ok . Don't use graphite ! 😂

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@CarTVvNEWcars Жыл бұрын

I have a 12 4amps power supply which should be ohms?

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

Hmmm around 5 to 10 ohms I think

@CarTVvNEWcars Жыл бұрын

@@cayrex thanks for your reply can i use graphite instead of carbon black?

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

@@CarTVvNEWcars yes

@CarTVvNEWcars Жыл бұрын

@@cayrex to what maximum degree can it reach

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

@@CarTVvNEWcars With good power source,... 500, 800 C,... more

@infrafon Жыл бұрын

Heating from 3 Volts: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdJ1n7qUx9PPj3U.html

@useranonymous9274 Жыл бұрын

If you insulate with aerogel you be a millionaire. Assuming cheaper way make aerogel.

@Euc_spirit Жыл бұрын

Why 2 Plus and 2 Minus?

@cayrex Жыл бұрын

Because for the current. That I am sure that I get all the current to the device. Thicker is the cable lower is the current drop or I my case more cables. Some times I get the problem when I use thin crocodile clips or simillar thin cables.

@gsdggasgs1799 Ай бұрын

For god's sake this idea simply will not work at this scale and it also will not die 300kg of sand at 200c going to say 50c when it won't really heat the room is only .01 kWh Let that sink in. That means you can run a 1000w heater for .01 hours Thats a few minutes at best.

@cayrex Ай бұрын

Hahah calm down,.... is just a different idea of sand battery wich uses conductive sand instead of some sort of heating elements.