DIY Ultimate Battery Backup V2 - Aquarium Reef tank Backup

DIY Ultimate Battery Backup V2 - Aquarium Reef tank Backup - PowerQueen Lifepo4

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@Brad-k 9 ай бұрын

Those Batteries are amazing! I use a pair myself.

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

Wicked! If they go on sale again i may pick up a second to double it!

@joetaff 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. This is a great video The use of a LifePo4 battery here is worth emphasizing as these are safer (no off-gassing), more efficient, and last longer than traditional SLA

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

Not to mention they last 10+ years' much longer, lighter, and you can use the full capacity, unlike lead which only gives you 50% useable. They cost more.. but it will likely last you a lifetime!

@DoYouEvenFishTank 9 ай бұрын

Well that simply is not true. The chemistry of this type of lithium battery is extremely volatile and combine with a decent amount of energy at 100AH there is more than enough danger to burn the house down in a matter of minutes (it will create a massive fire). This risk is far higher and more dangerous than any lead acid or sealed gel battery and realistically should not be used in this situation (unsealed, should be under constant charge due to being a backup, can catch fire if BMS does not stop current draw before battery gets too low and will explode and catch fire if BMS does not cut off charge and voltage gets too high). There is no way you want to stick this type of battery behind something without being in a fireproof box designed for charging this type of battery.

@jerricolaboy9305 9 ай бұрын

Battery Tender Jr is the best way to keep it topped off. Clean and simple. It’ll never over charge. I use them on all 4 Harley’s in the garage

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

For led acid 100%. For lifepo4 Jsut need to make sure it’s a lithium compatible charger

@rubenpallares493 9 ай бұрын

Great idea and great video. What settings do you run your mp40’s? Please and thank you

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

my tank is pretty shallow so they are on reefcrest 22-28% battery backup i have them set to 20% Battery back mode i believe it was set to constant 20%

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

With vortech yes, they automatically swap to the battery backup port when they lose the primary power source

@spicyreef 9 ай бұрын

There's an $8 switch that will do that with any 12-24 volt wavemaker/pump/anything, you can even put a voltage booster and run the lights. No need to fork out the $$'s on vortech, unless u love them for other reasons 🙂

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

@@spicyreefI love them for no wires in the tank and how easy it is to maintain :). Pain to unplug wires and cable management to take other pumps for cleaning haha :)

@spicyreef 9 ай бұрын

@@ReefDudes Yet another reason to ditch the sump 🙂

@lovermansmith9082 9 ай бұрын

Nice , lot better than a UPS . Great way to go , Simple & efficient. . Thank you for sharing ! 😊 Just love it 😊. May keep you from needing a generator . In a pinch , you could probably use your car to recharge it . A battery charger from harbor freight would do for periodical charging . Good Job Dude ! Maybe if your feeling ambitious you can show us how to use that battery with other wave makers like gyro's. Probably need a relay , I'm sure you being the Dude could come up with the ultimate method. They don't call you The Dude for nothing 😊

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

Could use the etm voltage booster for the vectea to give you 24v for other pump. Maybe I’ll pick up a gyre to play with :)

@DoYouEvenFishTank 9 ай бұрын

You just need to pick up a couple of 10a Schottky diodes and if that is hard to understand you can also just grab a cheap 10A bridge rectifier and connect power to device on one leg, and connect up to 3 power sources/backups to any of the other 3 legs. Whatever leg supplies the highest voltage will run the device and no mechanical relays or headaches needed...

@sayurasem 9 ай бұрын

That’s it? That was really simple!

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

soo easy! and soo much tank saving protection!

@spicyreef 9 ай бұрын

Nice! I have a vid on super easy backup switch with lifepo 24v 100Ah charged w/ solar panels...

@spicyreef 9 ай бұрын

ps... I would test that 100Ah, I find it difficult to believe. Mine is 50lbs so that one should be 25lbs, unless ur super strong 🙂💪

@min2oly 9 ай бұрын

I saw that! Solar power!

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

Beauty, i debate ding 24v and running some other gear directly off it. Such a cool way to go!

@DoYouEvenFishTank 9 ай бұрын

@@ReefDudes not really, if you don't regulate the power back off the batteries it will be all over the shop and you will also get a lot of emi from the solar charging which will drastically shorten the life of your ecotech gear....

@piotrdziedzic6630 9 ай бұрын

How would you hook up the return pumps to this? Would you use the booster cable and connect it like that?

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

If a vectea then yes I would use the ecotech battery booster cable for them. I have done it on my other tank

@khye106gti 8 ай бұрын

Could you use this for the new axix 90 coming out. Thanks

@ReefDudes 8 ай бұрын

It runs at 24v. You would run two batteries in series and power it directly. Alternatively the ecotech battery booster cable for the vectea pumps I believe serve that function to run off of 12v, I may have to try this now! :)

@UTUBESTEVED 4 ай бұрын

Question If you keep them plugged in assuming there is no power Loss does that drain the battery life? or do you just plug them in manually when there is no power I want to keep the battery fully charged at all times and only use the power from the battery when there is a power loss is that possible?

@ReefDudes 4 ай бұрын

All batteries will have a very small power loss over time. You could leave a battery maintainer on it at all time or Jsut top it off with a charger every few months

@allytrudie864 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic channel and content, thank you for all your work. I have been slowly researching and collecting equipment over the last couple of years in preparation to pull the trigger and get into the hobby but being on the west coast of Canada I am finding it hard to source anywhere local that has a decent stock and variety of livestock in my area and searching online I keep getting American sites with so much more variety in livestock but of course they don’t ship here. This is putting pause on my wanting to go full in and pull the trigger in fear I won’t be able to get the things I really want. It would be great if you could do a “Canadian Reefer” video where you point out any online stores you trust with decent variety in Canada and/or ship to Canada. Also, if you have boarded a plane from the USA to Canada with coral or fish and whether that’s allowed and your personal experience with it would be useful knowledge also. If you ever need a video idea please consider this topic as I know I would be taking notes and watching. It appears the more eastern you go across the country the better the local saltwater fish stores are. It’s irritating that I can put scuba gear on and walk into the ocean 30 feet from shore and see an octopus the size of a small car in my city but I can’t go to the fish store down the street and find more than one type of tang! 😂 😂

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

What city are you in?

@miltonenglish1679 11 күн бұрын

Devin, question for you. How long will it hold its charge for if not on a trickle charger or should i keep it on a charger 24-7? Any danger of 24-7 charge

@ReefDudes 11 күн бұрын

If it’s just for backup you can just top it off with a charger after an outage or every 3-4 months. It will hold a charge for a long time. So no need to keep A charger on it unless you have very frequent outrages

@CJSAQUARIUMS 9 ай бұрын

Dope 🔥💯💯💯

@islandreef5292 9 ай бұрын

A budget version of this would be much appreciated! Or a link to a budget battery really

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

This is considered a budget battery for a lifepo4. You can get seals lead acid cheap but they will need to be replaced every few years . You could always do a smaller battery like a 50ah too.

@andrewdellimore 9 ай бұрын

I wonder if you could run the MP40s permanently off the battery and top it off with solar everyday. You could probably do away with all the power bricks and just go DC all the way! I moved to Malaysia and I have been considering a DC powered tank.

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

You sure could. On my other tank I have solar feeding the battery backup batteries :). So there always good to go! You could also use two batteries in parral and run it direct from 24v. I do like the die sod getting rid of bricks

@DoYouEvenFishTank 9 ай бұрын

@@ReefDudes You are better off investing in a couple of step-up&down switching regs to ensure constant voltage, then you can hook any voltage to them usually from 5-36v.

@kckc1801 9 ай бұрын

Use a trickle charger. Will charge as needed.

@trevorwhittaker2256 9 ай бұрын

Sure wish we had an option for Jebao pumps.

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

I have an idea of how it could happen with a relay to flip flow the power when lost. Maybe I’ll play with that for a future project :)

@josephwhitt4719 9 ай бұрын

Is this possible with jebao DC wave pumps I really hate dragging my generator out just for my reef

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

What voltage do they need

@josephwhitt4719 8 ай бұрын

@@ReefDudes I think 12v dc they are the SOW8 jebaos and SOW10 I got 2 of each

@ReefDork 4 ай бұрын

Stupid question Dev...! I thought the MP40s were 24v and needed a 24v supply, whereas the battery is 12.8v. Is there something in the MP40 control box that deals with this? Or have I just misunderstood?!

@ReefDudes 4 ай бұрын

The driver has a secondary port that is made for battery backup and accepts 12v

@ReefDork 4 ай бұрын

@@ReefDudes Great stuff, cheers

@aaronhoy9965 9 ай бұрын

How did you daisy chain them together for multiple. And do you know if there’s a way to easily do it for a gyre

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

You would just wire them in parallel

@Razimuth 9 ай бұрын

You have to wire them in parallel. You would connect all of the wires together and connect that one wire to the corresponding positive and negative terminals. For the Gyre, it will be tricky because it may not have a battery backup option like the Ecotechs have. In that case you may have to look at other solutions that have an inverter.

@telegraham 9 ай бұрын

@@RazimuthFor 24V pumps, a Reef Boxx combined with a 12-24V boast converter will get you what you need without the need for an inverter.

@aaronhoy9965 9 ай бұрын

@@ReefDudes thanks

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

@@telegraham Dopes it have a voltage booster in it or is it just a nice way to plug an play the wires?

@lovermansmith9082 8 ай бұрын

Ya know Dude , You may have enough juice in that battery to run your return pump also , good to keep flow in the sump too . Maybe a relay or triac or something. You can do it 😊

@ReefDudes 8 ай бұрын

I would Jsut use the ecotech battery booster, already designed for that :)

@lovermansmith9082 8 ай бұрын

@@ReefDudes that's a nice unit , I think it turns down the speed of the wave makers also for a longer run time . But it's not universal for other pumps I'm pretty sure . I think you'd need whatever electronics are in the ecotech wave maker controller. Maybe one day I can look into it when I need . There's probably info online also . I figured you have the expensive part & some experience in the field . It would be cool to run your return pump also with such a big battery 😀Thank you for the reply ! Keep up the good work !

@jonathancontreras7625 9 ай бұрын

How could I make this work with the octopulse ?

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

How many volts is it? Assuming its 24v, you could run 2 batteries in series (or buy a 24v battery) and run it directly, or make a relay to cut over on power loss.

@grimcarnage4309 9 ай бұрын

Might wanna add your own US link if you're able. Quite a bit cheaper.

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

Always cheaper there! link updated :) thx!

@timmyanders7914 9 ай бұрын

Does this come on by itself if your not home

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

If you have vortechs they auto weigh over to the battery backup port when power is lost

@naseerfaheem 9 ай бұрын

What's the name of the part that used to attach the wires to and than screw it on the battery? Also if you can post a link for a charger. Thanks

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

I went with a 20A charger amzn.to/3QsAVhx The part to attach to terminals are just called ring terminals like these amzn.to/3S7XcCz These are the cables i used store2.ecotechmarine.com/products/fused-vortech-battery-backup-cable

@naseerfaheem 9 ай бұрын

@@ReefDudes Thank you so much! I was thinking to buy a generator but didn't want to have the smell of gas in the garage as every other tool is battery powered. This will save me space and money. The good think about this is that's very modular and could be expanded by adding more batteries.

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

Generators are great if your have frequent long term outages, but for the average short term 1-6 hour outages a battery does the job! You could very easily get a larger battery or add a second one wired in parallel to double it! I@@naseerfaheem

@DoYouEvenFishTank 9 ай бұрын

@@naseerfaheem just don't put the lithium battery in you house, the fire hazard is not worth the risk and when the insurance company finds out after the fire you won't get anything....

@ProducerReef 9 ай бұрын

Dev, How long does that battery last?

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

according to my back of napkin path.. 1 mp40 ~ 16 days. 2 ~8days ect

@EugeneRu777 9 ай бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@madshepsreef282 9 ай бұрын

Is it a car battery?

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

Nope, car batteries are lead acid, this is lithium iron phosphate, deferent chemistry, these last 10x longer and let you use the full capacity rather than half of it.

@madshepsreef282 9 ай бұрын

Cool didn’t know that, with the battery will it kick in if the power goes out if I’m not at home.

@DoYouEvenFishTank 9 ай бұрын

@@madshepsreef282 the ecotech pumps have an extra power input with a diode between it and the driver supply to act as the "switch", it is why you have to supply under 24.5v (nominal voltage of the power supply) to the battery backup to ensure it works.

@DoYouEvenFishTank 9 ай бұрын

Ahh that is a pretty dangerous thing to be suggesting people do, you should not have this type of lithium battery in your house and especially not for battery backup where it "should" be under constant charge..... The risk way outways and benefit unless you can store the battery where it can't cause a fire (which will be outside the house in a battery bunker). If you have seen what happens with a hoverboard battery fire, which happen all the time, wait till you see what 10 times as much energy can do in the exact same chemistry........

@ReefDudes 9 ай бұрын

Do some googling on LiFePO4, they are one of the safer of the lithium chemistys “. One of the most important advantages LiFePO4 has over other battery types is safety. LiFePO4 is the safest lithium battery type. It’s the safest of any type, actually. Overall, LifePO4 batteries have the safest lithium chemistry. Why? Because lithium iron phosphate has better thermal and structural stability. This is something lead acid and most other battery types don’t have at the level LiFePO4 does. LiFePO4 is incombustible. It can withstand high temperatures without decomposing. It’s not prone to thermal runaway, and will keep cool at room temperature. If you subject a LiFePO4 battery to harsh temperatures or hazardous events (like short circuiting or a crash) it won’t start a fire or explode. For those who use deep cycle LiFePO4 batteries every day in an RV, bass boat, scooter, or liftgate, this fact is comforting.”

@DoYouEvenFishTank 9 ай бұрын

@@ReefDudes Learn the chemistry champ, there is no such thing in the LiFePO4 world and the line "LiFePO4 has over other battery types is safety" should of been a massive RED FLAG had you done some "googling", why do you think the BMS is in the battery??? Don't play silly games as this could burn some persons house down while they are asleep. It is the trade off you have to make in order to get the energy density to provide both the current rating and capacity of the battery is the chemistry is very volatile which is why it is so dangerous to use in the way you are suggesting it...... This battery will most certainly catch fire and or explode if the cell fails and leaks to atmosphere or the BMS fails and causes over charging or discharging (highly likely to happen in your use case).