Haha that’s what I was thinking, he probably needed redemption after Inglorious Basterds.

I have yet to see inglorious bastards, so seeing him play such a good role in Django, it will feel weird seeing him as the evil antagonist. That's when you know the actor did a damn good job, when you associate the character to the actor. It feels so authentic and genuine that you forget its a fictional character and you can't see the actor as anyone else.

@@austinhernandez2716 Give it a watch, when I watched it I felt uncomfortable every time I saw him on screen. Seriously amazing performance

@@austinhernandez2716 a😅

And now we get to see him being a creep again in The Consultant

Dude! Nice catch.

Wym, he has lumbago

Poetic justice.

I didn't even realize that!

He wasn’t crippled for long…

I like the whole dialog between Big Daddy & his team

"Auf Weidersehen" traditionally means til i see you again, That got me

that part always makes my heart tug a little 😥

Auf Wiedersehen

@@batmandavidrojas thank you, will now edit comment

Nice.

I like the way you comment boy

Daniel Hughes I like the way you reply boy

Dalmir I like the way you reply to replies boy

Oh God, I read that in Arthur Morgan’s voice ”I like teh way ya video essay boah..”

Dude, that's just...damn.

Woke comment of the day

Holy shit

Opened my fucking eyes wow

This video was good but this comment is better.

sort of like the film equivalent of teabagging

Would like this comment but can't destroy a 111. Too beautiful.

I didn't notice it till my 6th viewing and i was surprised i always missed it.

Dimitri K not stealing. Appropriating. Just as the Candie family (and the whole slavery institution) has been appropriating human lives for their facade of superiority and culturedness, Da Jango is enslaving that facade and the spirit of Candie for his own purpose, pulling a swipe in the form of a justice move to reappropriate that which was stolen in the first place.

Actually in the beginning of the film when Dr Schulz frees Django, he tells Django to take the coat from the dead slaver, not really related but i think it's an interesting detail

AirEstes’s History Hans Landa: “could u say it one more time?” Aldo: “GOR- Lami”

They call it Le Big Mac

americans also speak a european language when they speak english

This is a device of paradox. Multi-lingual Landa is still a sociopathic murderer who is enthralled with American language & dialect ("a Bingo!") and wants to be 'captured' and brought to the USA seeing the Allies are winning. Django, former African slave now bounty hunter as trained by Schultz, must now school Schultz in how they must "intrigue" Candie and the white slavers & henchmen because the super-educated Dr. Schultz still does not fully understand the politics of southern class, customs and mores. Django teaches Schultz as Aldo teaches Landa by the end.

While playing germans in both films, Waltz is austrian.

Fun fact It was all a trap to catch him with the hidden gun to forfeit the offer and incarcerate all of them

It was a poorly written scene, I think. His actions made no sense whatsoever. Killing Candy killed all the progress Schultz and Django made saving HIldy. Even after their play was exposed Candy was still willing to part with her for the right price, instead of kicking them out and keeping her. Why was Schultz even so mad? That "extraction" was a very successful operation, and even from a business point o f view both parties became what they wanted - Django and Schultz never cared for that fighter and they would have paid any price for Hildy, while Candy got a ton of cash for a slave that cost 10 times less. Schultz, because of his ego, condemned Django to torture and death and Hildy to being a slave again. We only have a happy end because those three slavers were willing to listen to Django.

@NotLDaz the spelling is fine it's the grammar that isn't

@@toro5280 No it's not actually it is really a great scene which showcases that every character is not perfect For the whole movie you see King always having the upper hand against his enemies in every situation and he takes great pride in that Until that last scene where he gets outsmarted by Candie and his goons You could sense the irritation of King in whole scene, this guy remained cool and calm but just as the tables turn his pride takes a hit and ofcourse shaking hands with Candie would also cleave a huge chunk of his soul This is also buttressed by the dialogue Candie:- I think you're a bad loser King:- And I think you're an abysmal winner

@@danktempsey6110 That's all true, but it doesn't change the fact that he screwed the whole plan and basically doomed Django and his wife. He is free to commit suicide by Candy if that's his thing, but Django never signed up for this. He signed up for having his wife back - and despite havinhg helped Schultz for months in return, thus delivering in full on his end of the deal, the last act Schultz ever did saw Django chained (the irony) and his wife enslaved again.

lol right!? "All that matters is if the horse can see!!"

That scene was gold :)

Did anybody bring extra bags? Lol

Hahaha that scene was awesome 👍👍

He may be a racist, but at least he's good to his missus.

bruh

Epic catch

Well done!

Reaching

@@jaysway9251 I wouldn't say it's reaching. The dentist vs. Candy angle definitely seems deliberate, and once we recognize this deliberate reference, connecting it to slavery themes makes sense because basically everything in the movie connects to slavery themes.

Oh dear, I forgot about that painting. Quite a stab at WASP establishment, innit?

LordBane Correctamundo! De facto proof of your cultural literacy.

I thought it was Austin Powers

Winjin Intentional subversion

@@silverdropstudios7323 hahaha

In Django2 Tarantino will make sure to give her 1/2 the lines she had in this one and extra choking close ups to correct the mistake

@@robertmurray7279 U wat nigga?

@@robertmurray7279 Originally Hateful Eight started as a novel sequel to Django called. DJango into the white winter...or something like that I believe.

I don't know if it's deliberate, but the outro music is very 20th century swing. And then Django makes a Trollface.jpg It's not like Django's gonna live past the 1900s, but there is this little arc of connection, a little divine grace that lets Django touch the promised land for just an instant...

I like to think that Django and Hildi end up starting a gang of slaves they freed and abolitionists.

smartalec2001 it was said that her earlier masters were German and the mistress taught her so she would have one to talk to

wãvê she was able to learn it while candy only goes by monsier but does not actually speak french

It is also a work of fiction.

No one else at Candie-land can, but the Candyman can.

It's interesting that the refutation creates an entirely non representative image of Black people, who in general couldn't care less about Wagnerian themes even today nearly two centuries after the whites slaughtered each other to end slavery. A slavery system inherited from the Africans themselves, who sold their defeated enemies to Europeans who had abolished slavery centuries before. It's a completely fantasious refutation that sounds hollow for that

Raben Vater first free artist meaning what?

@@poliestotico Musicians used to be under the wing of a nobleman, who paid them to always have them at their service. Beethoven was one of the first composers to break this situation and become sort of a "freelance" composer.

I think the video's point is still relevant and the spirit still stands, if not the letter.

@@benatalbizbeaskoetxea479 TIL

I always thought the scene reflected how Schultz couldn’t stand the German “fur Elise” being played for slave owners (as he also recalls the flashbacks of the slave and the dogs)

The reverse is also true, “your all right for a white guy”

@@roninkraut6873 Not to be confused with the sarcastic response to "And all the girlies say I'm pretty fly," with "For a white guy!"

@@rocketgeek96 Exactly. I guess racism only goes one way. I guess no ones done the math to realize whites are a minority in the world. Identity politics is toxic and a truly sad way to view the world

@ashy Every time I point this out I get this response from people like you. That’s the point, dumbass. Human beings can be a ruthless species. Trying to manufacture fake oppression isn’t helpful, especially when REAL issues actually exist. We’ve dealt with equality in laws and it’s over. It’s a never ending loop because there is money/power in division. We should be focusing on the actual issues to our species

@ashy I come from a country that was enslaved for 500 years by the Ottoman empire. This ended in 1878, a bit later than slavery in the US. I bet you didn't know or care, which is understandable because apparently white people can't be victims. Ironically a black person in the US has the chance of becoming the leader of the free world, a president of the greatest country, something a white european coud never become ;)

Hollywood is full of bullshit bureaucracy.

Quality over quantity

One of my favourite actor out there

@@jadebrantley53 kinda like Tarantino’s filmography

Well and he's austrian so it's not without reason

And then he knowingly did an Obi-Wan Kenobi at Candyland.

I like when he says "Wonder Bar" instead of wunderbar

@Dr. M. H. WÜNDËRBÄR!

Dr. M. H. There is no Umlaut in wunderbar

@Dr. M. H. wunder, pal.

Dr. M. H. Because it’s annoying, and even if you made a joke, it’s just painfully unfunny

Afair, he didn't get one because he was a straight-up a-hole before that, and he reformed, apologised, and so he immediately got the Oscar. It wasn't for that one, it was well deserved by that point.

@@TheWinjin being an a-hole has nothing to do with acting skills/winning an oscar

It's been my favorite Tarantino movie for years and my favorite film of the 2010s. I also love that Tarantino gave us a modern western epic and it will probably be the last for a long time. I also love The Hateful Eight, but it's a completely different style. This was the best decade of Tarantino films IMO and really shows his growth as a filmmaker. My Tarantino Top 5: 1. Django Unchained 2. Pulp Fiction 3. Inglourious Basterds 4. The Hateful Eight 5. Once Upon A Time...In Hollywood

@@alexandersong5753 ...yes it does because the Academy Awards are all about politics, timing, and the campaign a studio puts on for a film/actor to win.

@@TheWinjin brooo, my thoughts exactly (about leo deserving an oscar for Django)

Does this actually work?

@@christianhigares7086 He missed (4. Like the title said: burn it to the ground.

QUITUTINCI TV same here now it all makes sense

That scene always broke my heart. Kubrick showed nicely that if you need the perfect antithesis to Selfish Brutality, Ludwig Van is a good go-to guy. Kubrick indicts the individual, but Tarantino uses the juxtaposition to show the divide between the best and the worst of Western Civilization. But, I think using a Cultural Classic as a critique continues the image of north and south american slavery as a Cultural Institution instead of an Economic Institution. Slavery was a method by which unprofitable industries became profitable by reducing labor costs to zero.

It's just an interpretation, though.

@@cpeithman999 But it was only possible as an economic institution because it was so deeply ingrained as a cultural institution.

Nah, I'm pretty sure that was just Tarantino being Tarantino

VERY VERY

Love him or hat him Tarantino is a master of dialogue.

This movie is unwatchable!

Yes it is Bowlther Tyrone

You're telling me I've watched it so many times! It is genuinely one of if not my favourite film.

12 years a slave didn't crticise as much as it forced you to look at horrors that were there. It's protagonist hardly had any agency or a position to make decisions. It was more of a slave's memoir than critique or dismantling of system. But I get your point. Django Unchained did a better job at showing complete picture while giving a very entertaining movie, but stupid people made a fuss about it and here we are

Because 12 years a slave is based on a real story

shut up

Personally, I prefer the 2016 version of "Birth of a Nation" - the story of the Nat Turner revolt really shows how even the most gentile of slave owners still considered their slaves to be mere pieces of property at the end of the day and how this prompted backlash from the slaves as they sought to assert their own sovereignty. It turned the narrative of the 1915 silent film on its head: instead of the film showing the perspective of terrified Caucasians that dread the revenge of the former slaves, this version depicts all the cruelties and neglect for their needs and desires that led to the rampage of vengeance - pointing out that this would have never happened if slavery was never an accepted institution in the first place...

Frank Castle I think all three are good portrayals but I have to agree that Birth of a Nation is an excellent film both for its storytelling in script and scene. Shame that most people don’t even know the movie exists

The beauty of the internet

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There are so many layers to the movie, it's great!

When they make an enjoyable movie with tangible and subversive commentary and it's just right.

until you realize, much like Tarantinos other films, they only sound intelligent but when scrutinized by reality fall under Travolta's description of Hollywood "moronic stringing together of words", making Tarantino similar in that way to the antagonists in his films, appearing intelligent only to the uneducated.

@@menotyu9576 until you realize that all humans are walking contradictions... what about actually debunking instead of stating an opinion. Thanks for your energy even tho it didnt even attempt at making a real point. Tarintino uses parady, satire, and exaggerations to make points like comedians. All schools of thought should be challeneged but sorry you only want to see things from your " realistic" point of view .. everyone knows his movies are fictional anyway and you're trying to compare it to some type of truth when truth on these things are subjective anyway. If you dont like it thats good for you .. just stick with reading Nietzsche and Darwin if you hate fiction so much. Sorry you cant find enjoyment in someone being shot with a gun and exploding just because it just doesnt make sense. Try Socrates he would have delight in schooling you about how much you think you know that you dont know. 🤔. Good luck trying to make sense of any art that comes from a unboxed human mind. Your statement looks like a stringing together of words to sound intelligent while not providing any enlightenment about what you criticize. Insults without providing a argument is a good reflection of someone trying to smash words together to sound intelligent while not expressing intelligence. Again i thank you for your opinion but i would prefer a debate if you felt the need to criticize people for liking a art form you clearly cant comprehend.

Me too, Benoit!

He's also making very clear that Django is the hero of the movie and he (Schultz) is a teacher. He's basically Obi-Wan Kenobi.

I seriously doubt Tarantino thought this through like you're doing.

@@npc2071 Oh, but Tarantino did, I just happened to notice it in real time and a couple years latter had my theory confirmed watching Christoph Waltz being interviewed in a "making of" documentary. Dr. Shulltz hated the antisemitic white supremacists bastardizations of his native Germany which is why he told a black man he could be the Germanic hero, "Siegfried", and why he told Miss Laura to stop playing Beethoven on the harp. (Pasted from Facebook where a friend talked Germany and paganism): Late 19th Century Germany had both a "liberal progressive" neo-paganism movement and an antisemitic wing of white supremacist paganism such as Theosophy. The liberal end lead to much of the interest we see today in the Thor/Odin-myths in Scandiavian Metal as well as nudist beaches/camps and the body-building movement. The "right-wing" lead to Fascism and it borrowed the physical fitness aspect from the liberals. This is also when OUIJA Boards and seances became popular. The communist revolutions and the American Civil War left a lot of grieving loved ones who wanted to believe psychics could put them in touch the deceased. Waltz himself is an Austrian-born, German-educated fellow and rather dislikes sharing both his native and "foster" countries with a certain little lunatic with an iconic mustache. That's why he loved the role he played in "Inglorious Basterds" as well.

y tho Tarantino was the dude who broke down Top Gun’s gay undertones through sheer symbolism. Tarantino loves being very deliberate with his symbolism as he knows its the best way to keep people engaged trying to figure everything out.

@@npc2071 ppl like this dude think nothing is ever done purposefully, just because they don't (can't) engage with anything except on an extremely shallow level. It's beyond them, so they convince themselves it's beyond the artist too.

His entire performance is stereotypical?

@@generaljackripper666 nope not the reason

Strange...all of p3d0wood is full of woke libtard leftoids...THEY are the ones who select winners of Oscars. I doubt OP is smart enough to know that since most leftoids have 70 IQ.

@@redflame300 Oh please. Of all the institutions in the USA, Hollywood is by far the most progressive and woke of them all. You cannot act like the liberal sycophants that gave Black Panther an Oscar out of all films are racist lmao

Seriously, it wasn't until the second time I watched it that I realized how insanely good his performance was. The transition from slave to bounty hunter to playing the roll of a black slaver to his final form of vengeance is just mind-blowing. It's not until you get into the characters head that you fall completely in love with the character.

Great observation!! Candy was very much Schultz villain, which is why the final act is about Django fighting back to face his own personal villain, Stephen. Both of them now left without their partner/mentor, and each managing this turn of circumstance in very different ways.

Wow, that's a great way to look at it!

HOLY SHIT. HOLY SHITTTT. this this this this this. that's actually genius. shultz and django both killed the evil, artificial, hypocrtical, irrational versions of themselves

Oddly enough...before Arab Spring kicked off I got along with most Europeans

@@xavierthevoid Why did that change afterwards?

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@@theslasher89 The Arab Spring created a power vacuum that's mainly been filled by conservatives, ie Islamitists, fundamentalists and nationalists. It's a bit like when Iran had its staged revolution and suddenly threw itself back to the middle ages.

@@DarkAngelEU eh, been there a few years ago. not all that bad, iran's got a bad reputation but i mean, compared to its neighbors, iran's the MVP in the region. If you just mind your own business and not get involved in politics, you can lead a pretty decent life. But then again, i've been there only whilst my father worked a consultancy case for a year there, so i guess you could say I'm not the most reputable source, but still though, "back to the middle ages" is a bit of a stretch. They're by no means the same as isis-ridden syria or war torn iraq and afghanistan.

Overeager beaver greeters?

Martin Pfefferle nigga them is hoes

Red Star u don’t say

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What do we want? freedom, justice and reasonably priced love.

Candance Owens already exists...that's as Uncle Ruckus as it gets.

@@carldrogo9492 She’s a loudmouth idiot but she’s no uncle ruckus for she still have love for her people regardless.

@@carldrogo9492 bruh why you got to drag politics into this, this is a video about Django and movies

Candace Owens is nowhere near ruckus

@@dogperson1210no, she’s much worse

In any system there are means by which to move ahead of one's station.

Even today some dudes see girls and women as less than human yet mutual flirting occurs.

@@JM-gd3hr and of course the opposite is also true

@@reptilesceptile1035 no. the opposite doesnt occur

@@bubbybets9336 ofc it does lmaoo

lol I never realized how many jabs Schultz made to Candy.

Threw all kinds of shade at him

that and parley (different character gets confused by parley but still) are technically loanwords from french, you can find them both in english dictionaries. You could totally interpret his use of the word as a sly jab at candy, but I think given his reaction in the scene, that wasn't his intent.

@@matthewmudgett7413 Even if Schultz didn't intend, I think Tarantino did.

@@kategrant2728 COnsidering Schultz character, I think he quickly realized that Candy had an extremely tenuous grip on French and milked it's potential jabs for all their worth.

And that day has come...

@@ulisesmontoya9366 Not yet. Still Star Trek and his 10th official movie left to go

Danielle Martinos thanks.

Yeah, that's a big reveal. His patois goes away too, he was capable of "logos" the whole time and hiding it from the White People. It's an awesome moment, because the illusion of weakness was his power, it is only when he is defeated do we see how strong smart and capable he really was the whole time

Oh my godddd I’m such an idiot!!! I never realised WHY he was called Candy 😱 dude, thx for opening my eyes

Very brilliant observation. It shows how utterly idiotic slavery and its supporters were, as their justifications were completely hollow.

​@Jay Barker That would be the only explanation because otherwise the owner would have had to have taught her the language. That being said this film was nothing but caricature on the level of "orange man bad" level simplistic thinking. Its amusing to watch the Hollywood liberal indulge in the idea that the southerner was dumb, but this is nothing new, its so old and so cliched that it undermines the entire premise of this youtube video. Its a retread of the old and tiresome white liberal savior narrative, of guilt and self proclaimed virtue. Go watch some of Alternative Hypothesis's videos on the south and slavery for a different perspective. The false historical narrative pushed in this film is simply insulting. The genetics speak for themselves, owners rarely bred with their slaves beyond the notable exceptions, else black people would be obviously far whiter than they are now. They were expensive to own, and frankly in the end inefficient and detrimental to the economy reliant on them as they undermined labor competition, much as illegals do today. Which is funny because the very people who are so quick to point out slavery as idiotic are staunch supporters of the modern form, mass importing poverty for capitalist exploitation. Tarentino lost his touch long ago, Django is just another bad piece of propaganda, like so many films today, only praised because it fit an agenda.

@@woooweee youre so full of yourself that its amazing you got even two likes for this pretentious self praising toxic text

jon hes not wrong

@@Pluto-og5nh But he is very far from right either. False Dichotomy here. Let's say about 10% right and 90% wrong, because of extreme personal biases.

Not all rich politicians are bad, sheesh. As for gangs, it depends which ones you're talking about. When's the last time you have ever seen a Blood or Crip dressed in a suit?

@@SirBlackReeds he didn’t say all. Why are you trying to defend politicians so much?

TV Preachers and those mega-church guys

@@SirBlackReeds yeah they are, they never do anything they claim to fix in their worthless, rhetorical platitudes of endless excuses.

@@SirBlackReeds also Bloods and Crips who become high level dealers dress flashier all the time.

I would live to see tarantino direct a RDR2 Django pack, covering the time they were raising money in the west.

Daniel Love Same how cool would that be

Another prequel. We are now playing as Lenny's dad.

Seamus scullion imagine if Django met Lenny

That's a RAID!!

So it will be nice to see.

He's even more important given that he runs Candyland. He even forges Monsieur Candie's signature.

He's indoctrinated, fully and completely. While he still hides his true self and plays a role, manipulating the system/society for his own benefit, he's also absorbed it and its values and twisted logic. He couldn't live comfortably in his comfortable house position, if he didn't believe the same vile beliefs and justifications as the other slavers. So he is genuinely a black slaver, in deeds and in belief. There's a direct term for this, as it was a common phenomena, called an "Uncle Tom". Stephen is the embodiment of it. But, it's still crucial to keep in mind that this was only because he had been forced into a horrific position where he had to be. Victims often conform themselves into their abusers to seek reprieve.

Well there was black slave owners in that time, in fact hell, the whole reason America had slaves was because of black warlords in Africa

@@johnnyferalcat896 And Americans were willing and eager to buy them.

@@carmen_says_hi The whole world was. Almost all of the slaves imported to the Americas during slave times went to just Brazil alone since they basically just worked their slaves to death and replaced them continuously. Just like the Barbary pirates sold and used millions of enslaved Europeans during the same time. Shits fucked and still happens all over the world today. We're just damn lucky enough that we were born or live in the sliver of time and in the particular places where it's no longer a thing.

Did you notice the direct Mel Brooks references? . . . ... the horses rearing their heads at Big Daddy's ("Fritz!...) and in Young Frankenstein when they say "Frankenstein!" the horse rear up. And when Candie's sister is going from room to room ("speak some German!...) is the same as Cloris Leachman walking with the candlabra in in the castle ("would you like some milk?). Also Blazing Saddles' Headley Lamar's suit & waistcoat gear & attitude very clearly influenced Calvin Candie with suit, waistcoat, wild behavior and creepily implied attraction to his "SISTER! Darling you are a sight for sore eyes..". Plus of course Django & Schultz playing out the Bagheads into the trap was same as the townies in Blazing Saddles playing out the KKK by luring them into town ("where da white women at?!").

This is what ,2012 film? 8 years is a long time

Funny, I've heard a lot of people say that Django would never be made today.

@@comradesam3382 8 years is a whole lot less than 46, and 2012 is plenty recent enough to still be "PC Hollywood". Besides, people have been saying "Blazing Saddles could never be made today" since at least the '90s, probably earlier. Hell, they told Mel Brooks he couldn't make Blazing Saddles back in the '70s during its production.

Bear in mind that getting both Jamie Foxx and Samuel L. Jackson in the same movie is like two big N-word passes in one.

@Young Man right he was the only real White dude that called a Spade a Spade

Okay I'm European and I see a German person who is portrayed as a educated noble person - for me it is a mockery, since the XIX century this nation main and only aim of existence is to subjugate neighboring nation with force or now economiclly...

@@mirosawirzyk5247 well that sucks for you

@@mirosawirzyk5247 Is the only reason as to why you chose to write the number 19 as XIX to sound smart? That would be interesting considering your grammar. Besides that, didn't you pick the wrong century? 19th century does not mean from 1900 onward. The 19th century is a terrible example to pick for your point. Do you even know anything about pre first world war Germany?

@@BlackuKnighto I'm just here to say that in other languages, centuries are always written in roman numerals. So that's not an attempt to sound smart at all. The grammar mistakes are also explained by the fact that English is not his first language. Native English speakers tend to forget that other languages exist, which is exasperating. About picking the wroong century, I kind of agree. But the time shown in the movie is close in time to the Franco-Prussian war, so he's not totally incorrect either.

That's what I was thinking but I believe he was in the west at the start?

Jackson Davis Nope! The movie starts in Texas and moves East

Definitely. Many german actors, btw.

@@Gothead420 Im a german national, and I have to say sadly not..most german forms of media are just unbelievably bad and stupid..in my opinion at least..

He was such a great villain in Inglorious Bastards that I don't think he should've played a villain in Spector bc he will never top it.

@@IbrahiemLegoFilms well you have us, sir. American stuff isn't always perfect, but we manage to create alot of interesting films and tv.

@@IbrahiemLegoFilms I meant the internationally known ones...but not Till Schweiger. Hes not an actor. Hes an idiot, playing himself.

Nailed it!

They were released theatrically within a couple weeks of each other and I ended up seeing them both on the big screen the same weekend. Django was a refreshing palette-cleanser after 12 years

And the 1831 confession of Nat Turner reminds me why slave revolts are bad and why you should never listen to propaganda.

Tarantino is really good at balancing low-brow action romp with high-tier writing. Fun for all the family.

That's what was told to you. Any ,movie with a black lead doing great shit ESPECIALLY if it's a story of rise to power, or overthrowing power, will always be first looked at as mindless badassery ,meanwhile movies like 300, gladiator, and Troy are movies black people had to learn to love while wishing there was a movie that exaggerated on their history as well.

A lot of good movies are good because your brain realize there is a lot of genius subtext but not be able to point it out

It can be both.

@@MonBerry Why do you have to be mean? Just live and let live. Let's all just be happy that we can all enjoy a great film together.

As it was said in the video, he went up the system as much as possible. He had to accept it deeply to gain from it, but he was still a slave.

@@thies-hinrich8448 but he didn’t. He clearly enjoyed ordering slaves around

@@geraltrivia9565 serious meant question: How do you imagine him uprirsing or escaping?

@@thies-hinrich8448 conspiring with the other slaves, killing all the whites. You do know slaves revolts actually happened and some were successful in that the slaves escaped right? My point is that Stephen enjoyed being an oppressor like his master

Alexandre*

It's funny because it's false. He was mixed.

@@Pantano63 While you are undeniably correct, at this time, a person with any amount of DNA (even though DNA was not something known of at the time, but you get what I mean) from a non-white was considered a "tainted one", even if it was from someone several generations back. I am absolutely not disputing the validity of your answer, but racist people in the U.S. at this time did not make that distinction.

@@calebdziepak2950 Sure, that's how things were in the US, but Dumas was French, not American, so in reality he was subject to the rules and norms of French society and he was perceived as mixed, not someone who's fully black. If he were fully black he would've suffered way more racism and possibly slavery. He would've never become the writer we know today. Publication, education, status, all those things would've been denied to him. But he was able to get them precisely because, although mixed, he was mostly white (of French aristrocracy, no less). France and the US were and still are quite different.

@@Pantano63 You are absolutely correct. It's precisely this fact that allows for such a great mic drop on a U.S. slave owner who could not conceive that a man who has any amount of other-than-white blood was capable of writing great works of literature. That cultural disconnect allowed for a moment like that to happen (even fictionally), and it was beautiful to watch on screen knowing that an exchange such as that could have actually happened between a real abolitionist and slave owner at this time.

It's a much better experience for it, right? I can't imagine watching a movie or any media piece just for empty consumption anymore. A movie/show/etc without a deeper meaning behind it besides entertainment is just a waste of time.

You should go to sci show and have them check that out

@@nerdlingeeksly5192 I see what you did there.

If it hurts you're doing it wrong.

It's sad that communism is always just a front for dictators.

I am no dictator but a person who frees peoples souls

Fuck the Rich

@@briandalton5527 absolute chad

Joshua Sweetvale LOL

Helots.

@@JoshSweetvale helots were only in Sparta

@@puzanfish7705 IIRC, weren't they also literally one of the worst ideas Sparta ever had, directly contributing to it's eventual fall?

Your romanticized view of slavery is concerning. I shouldn't be able to tell that you're white just by reading your comment, yet here we are...

It was a bit of a tangent, but it is good historical context for the importance of language to the common justifications of slavery.

So... Sorry to Bother You?

@@LoganLS0 `_` huh : ) ...that *did not* occur to me!. I'm more surprised by how there are not more movies and such deconstructing call centre work..I would think that 'Black mirror' could have had an episode about it years before 'Sorry to bother you'.

That movie exists its called "sorry to bother you" great 2018 sleeper hit

@@claravinas9265 *Definitely* would not complain to see more creative takes on call-centre life, though.

Arr Ziz Omg I feel that. When I was in retail, my Sickly Sweet Customer voice was damn near empowering. Someone pissing you off? Wish them a good day in the sweetest tone possible. What are they gonna do? Complain you’re doing your job?

Controversy

Even other Greeks were enslaved.

They know it is bad but its free labor. Thats why they needed justification on why it is needed. Vilifying them if from an enemy state or saying they are lesser than humans.

Though this is a true statement for European culture, it is not true for American culture. For reference: see many rap videos, etc. where the artists flash a peace sign, usually at an angle, and palm inward. I agree though that when producing content intended to be consumed by an international audience, it's best to be more aware of norms outside of one's own culture in order to prevent any misunderstanding.

This is what I was going to post. Greeks might have logos as a reason to enslave barbarians (anyone that did not speak Greek) but they enslaved anyone defeated in war, or people paid their debt by serving as a slave for a specific duration

Aristotle argued that people had a role in society. These roles were meted out according to the nature of each person. A warrior has the nature of a warrior and a servant the nature of a servant. It's not about being lesser. It's about justifying slavery and explaining when it is permissible. If a slave could do the things others could do, then he was wrongfully a slave. The children of slaves were not born slaves. He argued instead that these societal positions existed and were based on our natures. People capable only of being slaves should be slaves. People capable of being kings should be kings. Every person should conform to their role in society according to their nature. He was not necessarily in agreement with the methods the Greeks employed to establish slavery.

It was still slavery...while this was in the past, it is still a justification. Past or present people will seek to justify anything they see fit.

I didn't say that it wasn't slavery, I just argued against the American perception of slavery, where there seems to be some sort of an idea that all slavery was racist and extremely superiorist.

I just defined slavery according to Aristotle. It wasn't based off of race in ancient times. I just wanted to expand on Aristotle and what he thought of slavery. There was much disagreement even in Greece about slavery, but Aristotle constructed an argument based off of theories on the soul and the ideal city. Thus, slaves would be very different in his view of an ideal city than what is modernly thought of as a slave.

Dojyaaan~

Vash the Stampede.

Balls and fingernails aren't guns. Checkmate.

Wisecrck got that quote wrong, Django is fastest gun of the south.

Is this a JoJo reference?

Idk where you got your history from. But, while sure there weren't fields and fields of slaves. Blacks indeed were slaves for westerners. They indeed could be no more than just the gathering bitches. Or danger warners or bait. And they were hated, beaten, scapegoated, killed and essed with just for gun..all the good old slavery ideas. There are even stories from natives where blacks..if they weren't killed by the natives..which actually didnt happen much...they were either helped or taken in. And therefore had the same fate as the natives. The natives, once they saw how the white man was...dphad no problem with the darker ones. And they began to work together in many instances. And western ers indeed kept house slaves or "indentured servants". It was easier to do that, than to always find a wife or such to keep up the house while you were out. No love had to be shown to a servant. But yes, by the time the west was settled, it became less and less and stature thing like in the south. But blacks were still used. Still hated. Still judged. Etc. Westerners just decided when the stories were told, they'd avoid ALL the negatives. And those who spread the words. The southerners, northerners, middles...they were amazed by the stories and by this time, even to them, slavery was just such a normal thing, they didnt mention jt

Agon Leed I’m speaking in generalizations of course, speaking about the general viability of the trade as a whole in the west. It also depends what you mean as the west. My assumption was the West could be presumed to be the states not labeled North or South during the time leading up to or during the split. I’m using a few justifications for my belief. First, most western states were admitted as free states as a compromise when the south wanted a new state in the south to be admitted as a slave state (e.g. California for Texas). Since the states didn’t protect slavery, the idea of using slaves to help mine in the gold rush (the main hope of slavers in the west) fell apart pretty quickly as most others didn’t like the competition and slaves that ran away were protected under the law. Second, one of the largest communities in the west outside of the California miners was the Mormon church in Utah. The LDS church became incredibly strict against slavery after they (conveniently) had a revelation about it once the union told them they would need to ban it to become a state, making it difficult for all others in the area to own slaves as well. So yes, you might be right that a trapper might have brought his slave here, or a miner could’ve kept a slave there, the cultural and legal difficulties made using slaves nearly impossible. The fact that they were just not a part of the culture in an accepted way as well as the very small amount of them in the area all results in Slavery never being associated with the Western. Again, this doesn’t mean they weren’t racist, just clarifying. Sources: Holt, Michael F. The Fate of Their Country: Politicians, Slavery Extension, and the Coming of the Civil War. McPherson, James M. Ordeal by Fire: The Civil War and Reconstruction. Morrison, Michael A. Slavery and the American West: The Eclipse of Manifest Destiny and the Coming of the Civil War. Richards, Leonard L. The California Gold Rush and the Coming of the Civil War

@cyotee doge A) White people did slavery far before they saw it in West Africa, see pinnacles of Western culture like Greece and Rome for that. However, unlike Greco-Roman and West African slavery which were motivated by most political goals and ends (I have defeated your people therefore I own some of your people), Western slavery of Africans was motivated by an idea that somehow the color of their skin made Africans less than human and therefore created as a lesser class of enslaved work-beings. Not the same thing, not the same treatment, and not the same justification. Good try though.

@cyotee doge man. The people that try to use that to justify always only use what they learned from either KZfaq, or by the bias history. YES Africans owned slaves. Slavery was a thing in many culutres. Wpthe difference is..where are we today? In America. Everywhere that owned slaves, and have freed and changed, has went through a phase. A phase where the people freed were criticized and hurt. However, a big difference is that most slavery in much of the past was indentured servitude. Caste systems. All that a person could either buy themselves out of of with the change of the system, so came the realization of reality. Going back to slavery in Africa, and tribes selling them off..its kinda in the same form of..there are indeed bad tribes ..but mostly the slaves were prisoners. Do badders. What we today call the prison system. The Europeans used those at first. Then came the pressure of their guns and whatnot and strategy to set tribes against tribes because...prisoners of war, became slaves that would be sold. But what the Africans didnt know was that what the Europeans had in mind was the TYPE of slavery. The type to break families apart, erase a culture, breeding and enslaving children. Acts that the Africans weren't implementing. Learn your adrican history. Now...in America what's happening is..all of that. Separated families, children sold, breeding, killings, NOT indentured servitude. Vicious slavery. And so generations and generations later once freed, there was still the case that these freed slaves were hunted, killed, beaten, etc just for being them. Freed in a land surrounded by people who wanted to erase them. Time goes by and you get ghettos.where the society forced them into, pressured them to stay within, not allowed any that disnt just get lucky, to join the basic freedom of just making it from the bottom. The benefit that most other races get. The view of the black man/woman has been engrained into the generation minds ofnost whites. So you now have blacks in countryside trying to survive attacks and lack of opportunities. Most not getting the type of land needed to even create their own basic needs, and also not so permitted to even buy their basic needs. And you have them in towns or cities the same. Everything forced negativily on blacks. And the rhetoric of them just being lazy. Kinda hard to show your hard work when the opportunity isn't there. But now the imagery ismod lazy blacks. There are documented proofs of drugs being flooded into the ghettos. The gangs you know now, started as protection for those neighborhoods. Just like you see and enjoy every movie of a dystopian future where the people who live there must live by any means necessary because the world outside that living area is unlivable...blacks were stuck in these areas with the outside being not permitted to them.stress leads to looking for escape. Drink or drugs. And now that means all those people who couldn't get jobs, now have a way to make money. Those same people who wanted to protect the areas..the good ones got outnumbered by the morally ambiguous ones. The ones who thought they could just sell to those who use, buy the weapons and supplies needed to fix their areas. No different than mafia. No different than many great movies you love. It got out of hand. I mean..if you're risking your life and freedom every single day just to survive, what would you do to the person trying to steal that from you? Because remember, there are other desperate people living there too. So fan groups of protectors became gangs. Violent. Which again...documented government proof that was indeed the plan. Research your nation. So the imagery of the black man becomes lazy, thug, violent. But really, they're all just a result of the b.s. that white America created. Which can be changed once people understand and stop passing judgement and actualy lend a hand to those in need. Race being a nonfactor If you decide to not help, that's fine, but being ignorant about shit just makes you look stupid. There you go. Summary. From African slavery to the trickery that got us here, throughhistory to what where your ignorance should now be fading from education. This summary actually does no justice to real research. Take your time. Take a week or 2 and do a little research. Your mommy and daddy and grandpa doesnt know all of history. And they were likely taught the same biased ignorance as well. Or just purposely misled you. School obviously doesnt tell it all. Its 2019 and we still haven't just integrated true history. Were still using just a month to celebrate black history. How about this, if you want to really rub it in a black persons face, do true research and come with something past "but other people had slaves so get over it" Learn how the nation operates, or PROVE they dont operate as such.

@22duckys Slavery was never originally a question of race. Aristotle himself, like this video showed, tried to justify slavery by cataloguing supposed "physical particularities" that would give a scientifical justification to slavery when it was a pure politico-economical one. Slavery was always an economic phenomenon. Slave trade in sub-Saharan Africa predates by several millennia the rise of the Triangular Trade. Berbers, Arabs, Carthaginians, Romans all used to trade black people, giving rise to a veritable economy and societies built around slaves, it's just that it weren't limited to blacks only. The Europeans didn't truly go deep in Africa, at least until the 19th century when land grabbing became a race and a matter of philosophy and prestige. Before that, all the slaves were victims of internal warfare between Africans, where tribes would sell their captives for Europeans guns and weapons to again go at war and capture more slaves. The Europeans just stayed on the coast and bought them. The Europeans developed racial justification after that. It was not because they were racist that they bought slaves, it's because they needed them as a source of energy in a world pre-steam engine that they created a philosophy that allowed them to create a loophole in the Christian interdiction (see Bartholomeus de las Casas). Racism is an invention to circumvent a problem that white themselves created. And it's worth noting that at the times, white serfs were often not better than slaves, forbidden to leave their land, sometimes limited in their marriage, etc... You also just have to look at white workers in the industrialized North at the time, who were paid a pittance and often called today industrial slaves with how little freedom they had due to their poverty.

@@ethanmcfarland8240 sounds like someone is afraid of the guillotine. Fear it or not it slices off the heads of tyrants all the same.

Bryan A Traitors to the republic shall be hanged

What the fuck even is this thread?... Both of you now...

@@vasilivros4166 you're the one who wandered in here buddy. You could just move along.

if you talking cops, it’s not really racist considering the deaths commited by cops are across all races. White people being the highest because they are the vast majority

Is he also oswaldo from the hateful 8? I couldn't tell

Gabriel Lukkes That’s the actor from Pulp Fiction. You gotta watch it if you haven’t

@@AaronAlert77 no yeah I love all Tarantino movies, pulp fiction is phenomenal, just confused Roth with Waltz

@@AaronAlert77 no yeah I love all Tarantino movies, pulp fiction is phenomenal, just confused Roth with Waltz

Guess God wasn't with him.

Yes please!!!

Yuh please respond to me is cloud Atlas good? I will watch even if you dont respond.

@@QuietVillain bruh, the film had me watching it like over and over to the point where I found myself buying the DVD. The film has alot of underlining meaning within life through past, present and future lives. A film to understand a purpose in life and finding that purpose. If that dont catch you, its held with an A-list cast with Tom Hank's and Halle Berry. If you got 3 hours to spend, and and empty space in your mind to comprehend what the actual Neck is going on. I suggest trying it out. *Disclaimer* you won't understand the first view of the film. So don't sweat it (if you do though, hats off to yah)

I hate to be "that guy," but if you liked the movie, get the book. It's got all the good parts without the sucky ones, as those scenes make sense in the world build. Plus, it's a lot more nuanced.

MAY be another "half baked" episode. I mean, yeah; the stated theme was that our deeds shape our future lives. But some evil souls like Hugo Weaving's kept getting positions of power, while good souls like Jim Sturgess' kept getting shit on.

Finally found someone who gets it!

Agreed no relations lol

The first association is still Dick Dale's "Miserlou".

What a tasty snacc

Robert Jenkins lmao... do they really think that ? Cause they saw a play with rap in it?

Am I the only one who thinks Hamilton is super lame? Admittedly I haven’t seen the play but I’ve listened to the soundtrack and know the story and idk it just makes me cringe

@@gav2585 Pretty much. White people like to see a couple things made from non-white culture and think they are "woke", like it's the hip pleasant thing to be. It isn't. Being "woke" sucks. And I'm not even very woke. Being "woke" means you realize just how shit people have had it and how much you benefited from it. Awareness along those lines is going through history and screaming out "GOD DAMMIT WHITE PEOPLE WHAT THE FUCK??" when you are a white people. Sorry, ranting. Anyway, liking a thing from another culture is fine, but liking is not the same thing as understanding. Liking Hamilton doesn't make you cool or cultured. It means you like a musical.