Whoa. I feel liberated.

I feel liberated and imprisoned at the same time.

Living is a waste of time.

@@someguy165 It isn't

rip grandma

Having a degree in Philosophy can be used to be a speaker and make public speeches

John Gault this isn't politics though...? You should have some reasonable arguments and you should be able to absorb said arguments and analyze them despite your bias...

John Gault philosophy plays a major part in every day life so idk why you see it so differently. If you've ever questioned life you've delved on philosophy. Religion is philosophy if you think about it but unfortunately people take it too literally

So in fact Herobrine does have something of value to offer, it may not be financial but there's more value to life than money

John Gault you're kinda weird haha, it's a debatable topic, despite your thick skull. Idc about arguing but it must be sad to have such a limited mindset (side note) you kinda don't have any legitimate arguments yourself here so don't go acting superior when you're the one that can't even contemplate someone else's opinion.

I have similar revelation, the universe doesn't care about you, but you shouldn't care about the universe. Fuck the universe, you have complete freedom to do whatever you want, you are the center of your universe with a population of just you, you are your own god, and only your reality matters. Narcissist Nihilism.

Sounds like Zen Buddhism

Genius

Watsky quote, cool beans

Meta, I like it.

What the actual fuck. My middle name is richard. Is your middle name hender

@@michaelhenderson643 Btw, the only grammatically right way to spell -son surnames are with two S's.

@@randomguy263 maybe until the name fuses to become one name. Like my dads name isnt hender

@@michaelhenderson643 Well, true, still fucking annoying that you may fuck up the spelling if you just assume that they spell it with two S's.

Like homer simpsons, people miss the point by thinking he is an idiot when in reality he represent the modern colective mindset of north korea, according to the r-tarded logic of an inbreed waste of space that michael richardson is. Oh no, whats that? Unfollowing comment so you can keep the salt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

the entire point is to use the happy mask trope to hide his suffering as a doormat people pleaser

sad dog :(

Right!? I did a triple take, like, how could they say that!?!

Poor uncle mister

Both is right

😂

@@reddeadultimate9558 this guy gets it

Well then I'm either a masochist or on pain killers because I don't seem to mind existence or pain

@@reddeadultimate9558 You're right. I should go to space and crucify some glip glops in forbodulon zeta 7 because that's an option that's readily available for everyone in the world.

I would actually say the opposite, the Meseeks are more alike to religious zealots(or just very devout people). They exist for a singular purpose (or at lease believe they do) for which they are created, much like a religious zealot who believes they where created for a purpose and have meaning. They find pain in existence due to the fact that it means their purpose is not complete, and upon completing their purpose are completely fine with ceasing to exist. Alike to a religious soldier(eg Crusader) who is completely willing to die if they believe it is their purpose(eg suicide bombers).

Good point girl

ThanatorRider yeah true

isn't that being an absurdist?

Underrated comment you’re absolutely right I completely forgot I guess that makes Mr.Peanutbutter a cosmic nihilist and Bojack a existential one woooow who would of thought Mr.Peanutbutter is darker than Bojack and less bitchy about the fact

love this

ThanatorRider So basically, Prometheus after realizing the "meaning" of his punishment

Also an alcoholic for sure

Facts

Why not both? Lol

@@thenoob7728 on a good day im only one tho!

¿Por que no los dos?

Yeah, I was surprised he just brushed it off.

Very similar to absurdism

love your pfp

kinda reminds me of this song i know 'acceptence of the absurd' by Al Camus ft. JP Sartre

Life's a laugh and deaths a joke. Keep them laughing as you go. Just remember the last laugh is on you. Monty python.

And I realised I relate to Rick too much

I relate to both of them

I relate to Rick's autotheistic views and BoJack's damaged reality causing me to live, laugh and love such an absurd world!

Clef the Misfit yes. I too am a drunk alcoholic who just barely manages to function enough.

I think EVERYONE can relate to him, to a certain extent.

Shady Doorags the key word is "seems" LOL

Mark my words, after Bojack Season 5 we are gonna get a "The Philosophy of Mr. Peanutbutter" video.

Aaron Willoughby Nothing really "happened" per say, but if you analyze Mr. PB a little closely he's not as happy as he appears (albeit, he is still happy.) I did a video analysis of him on my channel.

because wisecrack's favorite is rick and morty so they forget/couldn't care less about most of the moments in bojack horseman

He's just as cynical as bojack. He just pretends not to be.

You're being very undude.

@@Pining_for_the_fjords Shut up Donny

I just wanted my rug back man...

Goddamnit, Challis, I was going to say that.

That rug really tied the room together

What are you wearing ? 🤠

Same... The cosmic crises just determines and governs the existential. I felt a lot of overlap here that wasn't all addressed.

Same

@@uncannyvalley2350 I wonder why she hasn’t replied. I’m wearing a tshirt , sweatpants, and boxer briefs 🩲

@@whoknows6226 imagine i remembered

same

On a “good” day I am neither. On a “bad” day I am neither.

Same here.

So fuck life

Same

I don't know who you are, but I love you

Why is this not the top comment?

@@xolaningubane3014 I was just surprised it wasn't top comment cause it's one of those things that I'd expect to have a lotta likes. And you say that, but I think it DOES actually get funnier every time!

@@xolaningubane3014 I did, but I'll admit it took me halfway through typing my reply to realize lol

@@xolaningubane3014 bojack? Is that you?

that makes the whole show better in my opinion.

I 100% agree, but I think that BoJack probably has BPD not depression. people with depression don't have the motivation to get out of bed most of the time. BoJack does. his childhood trauma, the chronic emptiness that he can't get rid of, substance abuse, reckless behaviors etc. they are all signs of a personality disorder. im not disagreeing that he has depressive tendencies, I just think that there is more there.

@@ardenserbest251 people with depression get out of bed lol, they aren't literally always in a bed all the time

@@brightestlight9462 I know. I have diagnosed depression.

@@ardenserbest251 as do i lol, didn't mean to come off as i did

Nihilism isn't always assumed to be caused by substance abuse, other way around. Substance abuse is typically a *result* of nihilism.

>why is nihilism always assumed to be connected with substance abuse? >in the end it doesn't matter if you're drunk/high/other Come on, man, you are so close to figuring it out

Yes, because everyone is dead in the end, what is a good reason to not drink daily? You’ll harm yourself?

Wertain II here’s one reason. You become a burden to those around you. Not only are you useless, but you’re actively making things worse. Life’s hard, if you refuse to help then at least get out of the fucking way

Because most of the time it is. Think about it if nothing matters at all then why prolong the trip Because nihilism in itself is another dumb coping mechanism. If you’re scared of the unknown, make yourself believe it doesn’t exist

They would be both dead in about 1 hour

In my point of view, Rick Sánchez is a a genius that pretends he knows everything (maybe he really does) but is human nevertheless, and he will say anything to try to keep himself alway of emotions and attachments, like a defense mechanism.

And science can't also proof that soul exists, and it triggers him.. it makes sense

It is a big struggle but youre right why not have fun doing it

That's pretty much the basis of existentialism. Nihilism's funner, better, and way more successful brother.

Nothing is not worse or better than anything ... nothing is just nothing.

Gone 004 it’s the least enjoyable think. It’s perpetual misery. Every single passing minute is just torture. The only respite is a delusion, smoking, and a whole lot of drinking on the weekends.

We have to imagine Sysiphus happy. ✌

No one cares

That doesn't breed unhealthy or toxic habits? Saying nothing matters is an easy copout to do bad shit if that's how you use it, of course

@@phoenixfeather1337 if "nothing matters" inmediately makes you think you would do bad shit, then the "negativeness" is already in you. Not in the philosophy. What Im trying to say here is... just because one is free to do whatever they want, that doesnt mean to do bad. A meaningless life doesnt mean a negative life, it means a life of freedom to create your own path. Whatever you choose from there, that's entirely up to you.

@@phoenixfeather1337 Who cares if it's unhealthy or toxic if it makes you happy, nothing matters in the end so being a saint or a sinner doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Nihilism is a paradox because if you truly found life meaningless you would have killed yourself (don't obviously). Why keep living if there was truly no meaning?

Check out Jordan Peterson and his lectures, that would probably help shift you in a better direction if you're a nihilist by heart :)

PardonMySanity about time somebody made somthing of themselves instead of mopeing around and killing themselves like half the morons who only go through a fraction of what you had to do. You are strong, and thr strong survive

Same here. Been depressed for 9 years and got out of it thanks to this way of thinking

Dude totally. I saw that special. You are essentially a weak God who has to decide what his impact will be. In the midst of the whirlwind of glass which is our universe, you are going to be a force of what type? And choosing to go your own way is what gives you purpose as a human. When you dont do you, you die.

Same here

And Richard Feynman

One must imagine sisyphus happy.

Nah he’s only good at philosophy and nothing else. He’s what is called a fraud and so is everyone who falls to philosophical mind traps.

sameee

Yeah because he can't be 100% cold for the entire show. It's still a TV show and thus characters need to undergo at least some form of change... Rick's obvious gradual change is his realization that he does have, as he puts it, "irrational emotional attachments"

Sometimes it feels to me like he wants to prove to himself that nothing matters. But no one can escape the shackles of having a physical body. And that comes with needs that have to be met like food, connecting with others etc.

@@claudis.4015 You can temporarily escape it pretty easily, turns out chemicals can do wonderful things, also he's Rick Sanchez you really wanna bet he can't escape having a physical body? He resurrected himself repeatedly and made a thinking feeling digital copy of himself that accidentally gained a physical form... I somehow feel it is very much within his capabilities to escape his physical body if he wants to. And yeah uhh you do realize that nothing does matter right? Have any grasp on why nihilism is a thing? yeah...

@@InsanityPlusOne Thanks for the polite responds. I love me some constructive feedback any day. Nothing like a respectful discussion to change a stranger's mind, am I right? :)

That’s called character development

He even believed stopping the progress of nihilsm to be his mission.

Cool story guys but nihilism doesn’t exist

@@devaxionrl8189 can you explain your point of view I'm interested to listen to it...

@@larapunk3532 meaninglessness and meaning arent real concepts. That's why nihilism is not only wrong, it doesnt have a concept that correlates with reality.

@@larapunk3532 if i could hold this meaning or concept into anything, i would have already done so. Will power may be real because it does affect your body to produce more dopamine and other essential chemicals. But meaning seems to be not even a motion but some philosophical ranting done by 18th century miserable people.

Dale Galiniak absurdism

"meaning" is a stupid construct. Get it out of your head.

It's alright dude. Just try to live life the best way you can.

that's not how any of this works...

They may not matter in the grand scheme of things but they're real and should be acknowledged and accepted as a part of being human. There's no need to go against ones nature if it doesn't hurt anyone. Letting go of that would be denying your own humanity and ultimately harm more than help.

@@cockycookie1 No one is real

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YA IT REALLY GETS MY DICK HARD TOO

I do 2

I really like it when you talk about high school musical 2

Sad dog!

Cross faded yeet

@Scooters Videos what nah bruh they amplify each other

@Scooters Videos haha my bad bro

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You said it right. I’m high asf

I was a nihilist and absurdist then, but now I embrace theistic existentialism, which acknowledges meaninglessness and absurdity, but I create meaning either spontaneously or though allowing some influence. though I might think that god and jesus may be just human constructs or imagination, I embrace their morals and give them meaning as it helps me make other people happy by spreading enlightenment and volunteering for a cause. Bringing joy and service to other people, and exploring, enlightening, enjoying, and experiencing my life by appreciating the meaningless with my own given meaning...this is my meaning of life. Show less REPLY

ah if only depression was a choice

nontheless, even if it is an excuse he makes up, he chooses for this one in order to maintain his 'Cosmis nihilism', and that's what this video is about. I think they tackled rick and mortys relationship in another video about that series.

But then his cosmic nihilism becomes a burden for him. A lie which he tells himself to suppress his human values and which enables him to follow his actually pretty basic and not really that sophisticated urges to have fun... and which ultimately brings him - wubba lubba dub dub - great pain.

I think Rick's problems trying to rationalise his feelings for his family are an important part of what makes him relatable and give us a reason to care about him just a little bit.

Rick loves Morty he just cant make him self say it cause love is meaningless to him

My take on it is, that Rick knows that the only reason he cares about Morty is the basic biology. Evolution made us care about our children to increase the probability of survival for ones species. That is also the reason why he doesn't want to admit it, since he is 'forced' to have those feelings, even though he knows where they come from, which obviously pisses him off.

Indeed I don’t find much problem with ricks mental realm of despair though what I do seem to find problems with is that in his own holier than thou idealism he refuses to see things through the perspectives of those who see more than emptiness in the human condition and ruin such idealism’s through his slaughter of near every thing he comes across

we are all scratching at the wall trying to figure out wtf is going on, it's been the same throughout all of history it's just now we have the internet so we can finally speak to people from all over the world, only to find out, no one knows wtf is going on and that terrifies us.

I've always been closer to Rick.

“That’s not the point of ‘Philbert,’ for guys to watch it and feel OK,” “I don’t want you or anyone else justifying their shitty behavior because of the show.”

@@Hornfluffy1964 “𝑰 𝒅𝒐𝒏’𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒏𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒐𝒓 𝒂𝒏𝒚𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒆𝒍𝒔𝒆 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒇𝒚𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒊𝒓 𝒔𝒉𝒊𝒕𝒕𝒚 𝒃𝒆𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒐𝒓 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒘.”

You should try to relate the least with Bojack if you want to be alive.

What topics would bring more clicks? Nihilism is extremely popular.

David Kurt my emphasis is that it doesn't feel like it's just for the clicks. They want to make videos grappling with complex philosophy and use popular media to illustrate.

There'd be an abyss like black hole created from all the nihilism

Eh, i think it’d mostly be either bojack complaining about something, rick telling him its all bullshit because of reasons, and bojack calling him a jackass, or rick saying some sciency version of “life has no meaning”, bojack calling him out on it and rick using his infinite world so whatever argument. It sounds fun in theory but i imagine it couldn’t be anything other than disappointing.

What is this, a crossover episode?

ohhhh shit.

There's definitely some overlap on their google images. Any way to verify that?

You must've watched Rick and Morty

@@visualsforyou7120 ?

@Poems By Shannon Was referring to the original comment, saying that Rick and Morty must have given them that high of intellect lol

eseliljoker5150 I love futurama, but I dont think it has any philosophy.

Canario Garcia really, do you even really watch. With episode like the seymour asses, or, robot hell, or even the the beast with a million backs. How can you say there's no philosophy. The even push the idea that the more things change the more they stay the same.

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Eeerikaaa!

Neigh way, José...

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Yes

The cosmic constant of "Don't be a dick" strikes again :D Fortunately, i might add

The problem is that literally none of that matters. Lets say for a moment Christianity is right, god says our duty in existence is to obey him and your reward is everlasting paradise. To which I ask why is that important? Whats the point of everlasting pleasure?

Beats ever lasting torture that's for certain

1234kalmar why? Sure I wouldn't like it but that doesn't matter. So why would pleasure or suffering matter?

You are exactly right. God’s existence wouldn’t solve the problem of meaning. It’s a continuous loop: What would be the reason for God’s plan? What is the reason for this reason? What is the reason for that reason? And so on… until in infinity. Meaning itself (ironically) is meaningless.

oriana garrido that's just cosmic nihilism. And your brain is just falling back into taught patterns. Don't fool yourself into something so pretentious as it being both

pfftt. Who are you ? Owlman ? :D

Very nice

Suffer from? It's not a disease lol

sounds legit

Hue Hue yes yes yes!!!! Please do it!!!!!!!!!

I don't think it's a front for a broken interior. I think he definitely can be sad, and depressed (we see him struggle with this around the death of his brother). But he ultimately comes out the other side of it quite quickly, cheerfully telling bojack that "nothing matters". Because happiness and meaning aren't about having everything be perfect all the time, and never being sad. Mr Peanut is the best adjusted of all of them (if only from an emotional standpoint), because he can perfectly embody the "keep living forward" philosophy, while others only state it.

the only thing that makes sense in life, is this very moment. people borrow from the past and invite the future.. what we call "now" is the most scary,lovely,scaring ect. ask you self this .. if i am just a shadow on the water, could i truly be a fish beneath it. stop analyze everything a just exist, scared pussies

Yeah we know he plays dumb (like not calling out bojack for who knows how long about kissing dianne, until hes pushed. His breakdown when bojack rejects him after bojack also pretends to be happy. And of course whenhe gets all depressively nihilistic when his brother was possibly dying.) Basically he hides a lot of his inner self with a persona desperate to make people like him. In season 4 he even admitted he only ran for governor because he wanted people to like him and didn't like the thought that maybe hes not well loved enough. It also explains why he's so desperate to be bojacks friend. Because bojack doesn't like him and he is compelled to change that. Not unlike pinkie pie actually. There was an entire episode about a donkey not wanting to be her friend, and she went to some pretty extreme measures to make him like her. Its beyond a healthy level of "of course people want to be liked" and into compulsion. Possibly personality disorder territory. If I had to guess I would say bojack is straight up borderline personality disorder (as in he has every symptom on display, some more pronounced than others) probably with narcissistic personality disorder traits underlying it. and mr peanutbutter has histrionic personality disorder. I have bpd so I'm quite familiar with it. (Also npd traits and with many friends with either). Hpd I know much less about. But I know core aspects are hiding behind a fake persona, expressing how you think others want you to be, coming across as fake usually, overly dramatic, and impulsive needs to engage in big attention grabbing gestures to impress others or make you the center of attention. And with all personality disorders they tend to cause problems with yourself, your work, and your relationships. His third marriage is falling apart literally because of his need for the spotlight, his running for governor, and his repeated over the top gestures even after being confronted with that they're for him, and not liked by the person receiving them. Bojack rejects him for being too bubbly and insincere seeming. And ultimately he lost a lot of his popularity after impulsive decisions that he thought would make people love him. Such as deciding people can eat whatever they want when trapped underground. He's not perfectly well adjusted, he just doesn't really express because he's terrified of the rejection that might cause.

han090 I already mentioned I have bpd. But to be precise I have quiet bpd. Standard bpd tends to cause lashing out. You yell at others or have other outbursts, openly admit suicidal feelings especially when rejected or abandoned. You sabotage those around you so they can't leave you. Or conversely you cut out relationships even that are going well so they can't reject you first. It's typically easy to see and not that hard to diagnose if you're familiar with the person and the condition. Though it can often be mistaken for bipolar disorder or other cluster b personality disorders. Quiet bpd however implodes rather than explodes. You rarely express yourself openly. You self harm, abuse substances or engage in risks, but without others knowing. You might withdraw but also act like everything is fine. It's not super unlike hpd, and in fact mr peanutbutter may have quiet bpd instead. There just isn't enough evidence to point to it. The issue is, because people almost never see the full range of symptoms its far easier to just decide is anxiety or depression and downplay the intense inner struggle. Personality disorders tend to be developed by abusive or turbulent childhood. My mom had bpd..classic bpd. It was violent, with a lot of yelling and put downs. She would say that I could talk to her about anything, but as my mental issues started developing and I tried she acted insulted, life I was directly saying she's terrible, and would threaten suicide. And even before that any time I had an issue, a fear, pain, sadness, I was yelled at to keep quiet, Loire about it and not "air dirty laundry" (like that time I was 16 and a neighbor raped me and when another neighbor asked if he was good I said no and my mom said she didn't want conflict with the neighbors and to shut up about it). Like yeah that imposed non expression and chronically bad condition I know is exactly why I have quiet bpd. So I think its highly unfair to say hes super well adjusted just because he smiles a lot and doesn't often express his negativity. It's, imo, a really shallow way to look at people. I mean come on even robin williams is a classic example of the happy well adjusted nice to everyone fun loving comedian type who was so depressed he killed himself. Portraying outwardly traits that make others think you're well adjusted doesn't mean that's accurate. I mean until season 4 it could be argued that princess carolyn was most well adjusted. She worked hard, did her best, helped everyone around her and when needed would stand up for herself when she felt taken advantage of. She had ups and downs but always went with it even when sad, hurt, or angry. But holding up that image of independent strength is stressful and it basically destroyed her and most of her season 4 relationships. If bojack wasn't actually improving his issues so well, it would have destroyed her completely when she told him that she forged his signature. Outward functionality doesn't really tell the whole story. And anyone can snap. I'd argue todd is the best adjusted main cast honestly. But I also feel like they don't explore enough personal with him for that to be the case for sure. Who knows what demons he has. Maybe no one is well adjusted. Hollyhock isn't, but she feels like she can't admit to any struggles or it's betraying her dads. So even when looking for her mom she can't admit she wants one. She can just barely admit to having a self loathing inner voice, but even that is just really hoping it'll pass.

FOX you bpd people are weak ... ohh well might just be me... i was diagnosed with an extremely high IQ and psychopathy at 5 years old, and i used all my mental resources too understand other personality. i spent years just watching others... i could manipulate adults as a child.and believe me when i say. people like you just need too admit, you LIKE see down and fuck up others, you just dont like getting caught doing it. and you have a tendency to get once you have the label of bipolar disease.. damn cherry pickers.. ps iam a true psychopath my understanding of feelings is warped other words iam allllllll ways happy AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Why should Rick believe the universe is evil? I think he sees it as neither good or evil

I disagree. First of all, he never explicitly states that the universe is evil nor does he ever say that [(edit:) he thinks] it is evil. He said that it can be cruel and unfair, but even that doesn't mean that it is evil. Nothing is either good or evil, as the universe is too complicated to be one. Also, evil isn't the opposite of good. Secondly, he doesn't say that love can't feel good, it is just that he definitely thinks it is an illusion and he would feel foolish and weak to believe that it is true. Also, he doesn't need to justify his suffering as we all know he is, so why bother, right? Additionally, he ALSO never said NOTHING is justified, he just doesn't act on ideas that CANNOT be justified. So, I think he is a great example still. Thanks for the chat, I needed something to waste time.

If you, remember in vindicators 3, Morty actually quotes rick when talking to Vance about good and evil. "Rick says good and evil are artificial constructs"...so rick couldnt really believe the universe is evil. Maybe, unfair, but not evil.

The flat out truth is that there is no real reason for living. We look at the different religions and about all the Gods that created us, and apparently, for no specific reason. We look outside of it, and we're an inherent unavoidable accident. Life isn't meant to have a course, or a straight road that we should follow. There is nothing in the world that validates why we do the things we do, and there's nothing that tells us how we should be living since the dawn of humanity. There are many texts, sure. But there is no evidence remotely concrete enough to solidify that in our minds. And sure, we try to remind ourselves what we "should" be doing by repeating the same actions day in and day out. But that's just repetition. It's like we're robots, experimental and half the time, pointless. We don't need a reason, but if we want a reason, we can go looking for one. There's no harm in that. We can look for what attachments are valid in life, again, there's no harm in that. It's better to live with a truth and keep pushing forward than to live a lie and do nothing with our time. We have years before something drastic might happen which could shape the course of humanity. Doesn't mean we can't do something, right?

Peter E Ah yes, the absurdist

That sentiment is also a philosophical idea that has been around for centuries. You’re welcome.

If a video hasn't made you yell at the screen, it hasn't truly touched you. For a video to touch you, truly is magic. Namaste

Hraefncin well put. Wisecrack is a service to the internet. It makes me proud to be American and a human when so much of our world is gloom.

What's the difference? Infinite versus infinite infinities is still, essentially, infinite. It's beyond comprehension either way. Whether there is only one of you alone in an infinite void, or an infinite number of you alone in infinite voids, the meaning is equally absent.

That is just absurdism for you :) If you read "The Myht Of Sisyphos" by Camus, he claims that this is the only way to be happy. There is no meaning in life and you should accept that and stop searching.

Yeah you are right, I did not meant to say the opposite but I meant that his character has more depth than what we expect or what Bojack see in him.