DJI Mini 4K - High KP Index - Cell Phone Towers - No Problem
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Ай бұрынRecently we have experienced some intense solar storms. This has increased the KP index (Planetary K index) to some higher levels. While this allows us to see some great Aurora Borealis in the night sky, it can also affect electronic devices. In the video with the DJI Mini 4K drone, I want to point out that with newer drones like the Mini 4K, you are still able to fly without issue. While we are at it, let's take a look at interference or lack thereof caused by flying near cell phone towers. This is my experience only, yours may differ. Use your own judgment and stay within your comfort zone. Here is a link to the owner's manual for the Mini 4K: dl.djicdn.com/downloads/DJI_M...
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@ellobo1326 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I forfeited a flight this evening with my Avata 2 because of the app’s advice. It was a gorgeous afternoon. 😢
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I'm sorry you missed your flight. Thank you for watching!
@joeamericauavfordav1096 Ай бұрын
Marcus, Great video and thanks for sharing. I was concerned when I saw the KP over 6 and grounded myself. I see today it is back under 3 so weather permitting I want to get in the sky today. Again thanks for sharing another informative and entertaining video.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Thank you Joe. Of course we each need to fly in our comfort zone.
@RonaldBrown59 Ай бұрын
I've had no issues due to a high KP index with any of my modern DJI drones. But I didn't fly the last two days due to bad weather, either rain or high winds. Nice flight with the new Mini 4k, it seems to perform quite well for a $299. Which doesn't surprise me one bit, these DJI Mini drones are rock solid. Thanks for sharing Marcus.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
DJI has really improved their GPS reception since the problems with the Mavic 3. Thank you Ron!
@TaniaGail Ай бұрын
Flying today! Had a blast viewing the northern lights last night - sorry, no drone flight during the show.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
You caught a great picture Tania!!
@johnk7649 Ай бұрын
Nice video, Marcus! I'm waiting for you to return to the In and Out Burger joint to give us an update on whether the lines have dissipated!
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
You know, I have not paid much attention to In and Out for a while. I better chack that out! 😄
@Falcon1USA Ай бұрын
Thank you for this information. I always was unsure about KP index. Awesome video !!!
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
@michaelkosinski5671 Ай бұрын
Hey Marcus, thank you for showing everyone that the KP value doesn't really disrupt GPS on more modern DJI drones. Even flew M4P and filmed the Aurora in Michigan. It was amazing. I wish DJI put night mode into taking photos at night with higher ISO. Thank you very much for making the video here and all the rest them.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you Michael!
@Winniechen311 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! A nice drone!!!!
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@captraykelly Ай бұрын
Hi Marcus, awesome video! High KP indexes in NY too. We flew anyway too. Great info on the Mini 4K. I did my unboxing of my Mini 4K today. Hope to fly it tomorrow!
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
The Mini 4K is a cool little drone Capt. Ray. I plan on flying mine a lot. Thank you for stopping by!
@JohnCuppi Ай бұрын
I had 18 satellites on a little flywoo GM10 Mini V3 gps today (BeiDuo+GPS+Galileo) and the accuracy (pdop) was 1.2. I was in an 8.33 index. A lot of people freaked out and grounded their quads over nothing.
@Matanumi Ай бұрын
Yeah all GPS systems seem to work fine... It's like the Geo storm does nothing to modern tech
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
You are spot on John! 🙂
@MattHatfield1 Ай бұрын
I cannot speak for DJI drones but I've seen a cell tower temporarily kill the connection to RC airplanes/helicopters using radio equipment from multiple manufacturers. It likely is based on a number of factors including the strength of the cell tower and the frequency bands it utilizes. It doesn't happen consistently but when it does, it can be devastating. Better to be cautious and avoid cell towers.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I'm sure that was possible with a single channel RC.
@andyairshots Ай бұрын
That's a great price for the technology, great demo Marcus, love your weather..
@TheGrobbo1956 Ай бұрын
Thanks Marcus, Very informative 👍
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I appreciate it!
@larryhammelman3424 Ай бұрын
Hey Marcus nice video, good job to keep reminding everyone about O A. I just bought this little guy, because I crashed my mini 2 beyond repair, so now I can use this one with my flymore pkg and get this guy (UP IN THE AIR) !!
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Oh no! I'm sorry you lost your drone. This one is a good replacement though. 🙂
@sudburydrone466 Ай бұрын
👍👍✌️ To tell you the truth I don’t really check my gps sats all that much. I should start.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
DJI drones are so reliable, it's an easy thing to ignore.
@georgekelly1948 Ай бұрын
Nice day to fly. Good demo, Marcus.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
It sure was George! I just had to fly!!
@welbeckairphotography Ай бұрын
Very awesome commentary on the little Boy. My comment will follow sooner. Be blessed 🙏👍🙏
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
You are so kind Welbeck!!
@907nvl Ай бұрын
Thanks for a interesting video 👍
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
@WeretheRoberts Ай бұрын
Awesome demo and test, man. I’m going out this afternoon to check out the same with the KP index. It’s at 8.67 here according to the Air Data app. Great test idea, brother! At one point during your flight you had 29 satellites so I think your conclusion is right on. Lol
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Hey, thank you so much! Yeah, with our new DJI drones the KP index just isn't relevant anymore.
@hummerzdca Ай бұрын
I flew yesterday evening, and into the night, didn’t have any issues, even the RTH landing was within 2-inches of takeoff….Will check again tonight. Who needs to pay attention to this is the airlines since they solely rely on that. No alerts have been issued yet. I warned about this years ago that could escalate some day.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I may have been a problem with older drones, but not the newer models. 👍
@hummerzdca Ай бұрын
Also: I know we’re talking drones but… I’m a retired Flight Engineer with more than 5K hours over 17 years! I asked the FAA more than 20 years ago about the total reliance on sat-nav systems after their planned and eventual shutdown of all ground based nav systems! Their reply pretty much was “well the likelihood of that happening is…BLAH-BLAH-BLAH!” To which I said “well tell that to the thousands of passengers families on airborne flights trying to land to even be offline for even 15 seconds! The potential degree of death will be at their hearings! Thanks for letting me get this off my chest Bro!🇺🇸
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
@@hummerzdca Oh I agree. Passenger carrying aircraft is a whole different situation. Better safe than sorry.
@HikeFly22 Ай бұрын
Great info
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
@ssb73q Ай бұрын
Hi Marcus, nice flight with your Mini 4k, thanks for sharing. When you got that satellite message the number of satellites kept jumping around. There have been a number of solar ejections lately. Maybe it was a solar flair that caused a satellite gps disruption?
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Yes, that's exactly what the KP index measures. Thank you for stopping by Richard!
@finnybflyin Ай бұрын
Hi Marcus 👈🥸👉I flew my Air 3 and the Mini 4 Pro Saturday with no problems. Cheers, Brendan
@vanpdroneshots Ай бұрын
I see that my other reaction on the KP subject is gone. There are two things: TX/RX and GPS in the Drone. With a high KP the TX signal will get maybe work further, Ham Radio Amateur, like me loves Sun Storm because with low TX output your signal will become further than under standard conditions. KP 9 indicates that there is a high magnetic field which can disturb your GPS or Electronic circuit. If you want to see if a DJI drone can handle this, mount a good magnet on the drone itself, for sure you can fly but if the GPS works okay, that is the question. In de Sunday morning show from Johnny Drone Flyer were people telling that they had problems. ( I believe you can hear this start at 16:39 ). Don't forget, many drone flyers are no technicians and believe very fast what other people say.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Ha! No, your other comment is still there. 😀 Thank you for your comments.
@vanpdroneshots Ай бұрын
@@IdahoQuadcopter Thanks!!!!
@larsjungnell1969 Ай бұрын
En mycket trivsam video, börjar känna mig hemma 😄
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Ha! Perfect! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@pp2trancos Ай бұрын
Esas casas son tan parecidas que como llegues un poco "Homer" entras en la casa del vecino 🥳🥳🥳
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Ha! Yes, they do look a like. 😄
@timothyfrederickchurch81 Ай бұрын
You really fly close to that tower!
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Ha! Yes, thank you Tim!
@DronesRock Ай бұрын
Love your videos but ..... Just a mention Maybe when reviewing a beginner drone (especially keeping it simple) give both feet & meters when talking and include info on how to select measurement preference in settings. Also, remind new fliers how you happen to have multiple screens on your controller screen (which may seem intimidating to a brand new pilot} I'm 75 yrs old & I am recalling when I first started loving drones 5 yrs ago, one of the 1st things I wanted to know was, can I select "imperial" in the settings, ... "cause I had NO intension of learning the metric table" ... LOL
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes, I use metric because I like it, and the drone manuals always quote metric.
@freeman-1776 Ай бұрын
Actually my Mini 2 that I've been flying with without any problems for about 4 years, Just got fried. I may have just worn it out, but I suspect the bombardment of solar ions, probably fried the transmitter and or receiver chips. After a lot of troubleshooting, it was determined that the drone itself seems to have lost its connection power. I will be taking it apart to check the antenna connections but I'm pretty sure it's not that. So be careful my friend. The plastic shells on our drones are not shielded and that solar radiation can penetrate them. I'm not saying that's what killed my drone, but it sure is funny how I flew it the other day and didn't know about the solar storm. Last night I went to fly it again and it was toast. I used 3 remotes and they are all at full power but none of them would keep a connection with the Mini 2. Luckily, I had bought 2 Mini 2 drones. So I have a new one still in it's original box. It's always good to have a back up, but I will be checking the solar index before flying it.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
As you say, it's nice to have a backup drone. 👍 Thank you for watching.
@PilotsError Ай бұрын
Marcus out there scooting around to go fly, living his best life :) I wonder if you can still yaw while RTH like the mini 2 did?
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I need to check out that yaw in RTH feature. Thank you for reminding me! 🙂
@lauren301 Ай бұрын
We did a group fly on the same day and had no issues either.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I would trust your advice over anyone's Lauren!
@cwebs1000 23 күн бұрын
The cell phone tower brings up a question I have been wondering about for some time now, What happens If, using your cell phone on your controller, you get a phone call? Thanks for your work and vids, Carl
@IdahoQuadcopter 23 күн бұрын
Thank you Carl. I've had it happen. On my iPhone it just minimizes the app.
@cwebs1000 22 күн бұрын
@@IdahoQuadcopter Thanks
@sairlordmusic Ай бұрын
the rf fields are at the front of each panel not above blocking occurs when the front end radio cannot cope with out of band signals it just shuts it down even if it hopping etc
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Okay, thank you!
@Spark_m3p_m4p-ed3rd Ай бұрын
Hello Markus, the combination of the number of satellites and the kp value seems logical 👍. What will DJI say if I report a runaway and lost drone at kp>7? In Europe PL also kp >7 I'm flying around my leg.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
DJI has really improved the GPS capture on their new drones. They work great!
@daviddrew7624 Ай бұрын
Great video as always 👌 can the quickshots be done in 4k or 2.7k resolution thanks
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely, I forgot to change the res before I started them. 🙂
@daviddrew7624 Ай бұрын
@IdahoQuadcopter that's great thank you 👌
@gbower1 Ай бұрын
I flew 4 flights today and had no issues. KP was 6 or 7 but I always had between 23 and 26 satellites.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Yes, Gerry, I think some folks just like to panic. 🙃
@Qwackers-video Ай бұрын
On Friday and Saturday I was prompted 3 times to recalibrate the drone compass which must have been down to the solar storm. Flew fine though after calibration.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Same here. I've spoken to thers who noticed the same thing. Thank you for being our guest on Drone Seekers Mark!
@Qwackers-video Ай бұрын
@@IdahoQuadcopter Any time. Glad you enjoyed having me on.
@afanofdieselengines675 Ай бұрын
I am new to flying drones. I have a Mini 2SE. All of your videos are beautiful and informative but i have a question. Do the regulations require that a drone be in actual visual sight at all times while being flown? The reason i ask is because there is no way that i would be able to see my drone at 100 meters distance especially if you factor in the distance added by the altitude. This drone was being flown at more than 800 meters distance. Thanks.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Most people fly within their confort zone. Enjoy that Mini 2 SE it's a great drone!
@timothyfrederickchurch81 Ай бұрын
Does that drone do focus track or active track? Great video!
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
DJI never puts tracking on drones without OA. 👍
@net69flix Ай бұрын
guaranteed fly away with a Hubsan drone that close to a cell tower! with my DJI mini 2, no problem
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Ha! True enough! 😄
@Cozydrone Ай бұрын
All the houses have the same color roofs,it must be an HOA,UGH😲😳😞.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I used to be president of my HOA. 😄
@LandOverview Ай бұрын
Flew mine in KP 7 in UK and in sea mist, no problems and landed exactly where it took off from right in the hand where I was sat, but you know I noticed a warning I did not know they even had come up saying to be careful at one point as visibility is poor, well it knew I was flying in a foggy landscape, got some fair misty shots though which is what I was after. Anyway the high index did not affect the phone gps with my terrain maps so why should it a modern drone.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I agree, the newer drones are not terribly affected by a high KP index. Thank you for watching!
@Quis85 Ай бұрын
Hello, what PC app or phone app do you use when editing? I can't seem to get the same 4k quality to youtube with the app I'm using now. But when I download from Sim card to youtube. Quality is as expected 👌🏿. But I'm using work computer. So for my fancy editing I have to use my cellphone. Nevertheless I was going to fly today. But Tampa FL I had the same issue. So I didn't fly. I was scared to put it up in the air. So this video was needed.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Thank you! I edit on my PC and I use a program called Magix Movie Edit Pro.
@Quis85 Ай бұрын
@@IdahoQuadcopter thanks I'll check that out and hope they have one for android phones. Until I can get my own laptop. Or get my work to allow me to download that on there laptop lol 😆.
@Matanumi Ай бұрын
This is the Geo storm issue isn't it? Yeah I flew mini 3 pro last night during northern lights even in darkness not a single issue
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Yes, it's no big deal with modern drones. 👍
@bdseidler Ай бұрын
Hey Marcus, hope all is well. I trust your opinion. Do you think these sun flares and the northern lights could cause issues with our drones? Your 2 cents please.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I suspect on older drones it may have been an issue, but with newer drones I don't see a problem. Thank you for stopping by Bernie!
@bdseidler Ай бұрын
@@IdahoQuadcopter welcome, keep up the good work.
@jamesbarnesii4124 Ай бұрын
Went through two batteries on my Air 3 and had no issues at all
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Excellent! Yes, these new drones keep a really good lock.
@vanpdroneshots Ай бұрын
The advice is not to fly above kp4, it doesn’t say that you will have satellite or gps problems all the time but I COULD happen. In other KZfaq video a guy had problems with his Mavic 3 during a high KP. I wonder what DJI will tell you when you have a fly away during a high KP value and report it to them. My drones are grounded during a high KP. Those advice are to warn you.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
We all need to fly within our comfort zone. 👍
@vanpdroneshots Ай бұрын
@@IdahoQuadcopter Look at Johnniedroneflyer channel to Drones & Coffee from yesterday, at 16:49. You will read and hear several people having problems because of the high KP a lot of people take the risk but sorry to say they don't understand the theory about this. The Sun storms have a cycle of 12 years. I worry a little bit because a lot of Drone flyers are not really technical and will think, let's try it. Insurance will not cover the damage if the drone crashes into a house for example, because there was a warning.
@aerotro Ай бұрын
No disrespect to you marcus, but you used a top of the range Drone some of us have experienced near miss events with Cfly brand my drone refused to even take off 4 days ago at the early beginnings of the solar storm, mine was turtle flipping on it's back. Some low cost drone's even though they are modern aka latest on the market they often struggle with poor GPS especially in dense cloud cover (High Water Content) like in the UK so with high Kp index it is not doing us any favours. I tend to avoid risk taking, some people take big chances and gamble, but not all of us have that kind of money to take risks that you might be happy to undertake!
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
I'm not sure about high end. It's a $299 Mini 4K. But yes, DJI builds a quality product. I'm sorry to hear about the problems with your drone.
@richiebricker Ай бұрын
OMG! A modern drone isnt affected by radiation? Let me say that all drones are modern drones. The oldest are just 10 years or 11 old. DJI tells ya "Dont fly near big metal things" and ya wont listen. They wont send you a replacement and if they think your being wreckless they can shut your drone down. Why would you be stubborn about an expensive, sensitive aircraft that youve been warned about over and over? You are asking to lose your expensive drone. I guess losing $6 or $700 might make you change your mind. Dont tell people to do risky things. Youre kinda stoopeeeed.
@IdahoQuadcopter Ай бұрын
Normally I delete comments that stoop to personal attacks, but I'll leave this one for all to see. Thank you for watching.
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