One other comment if I may - I went from a LC100 V8 to the new 300 GR-S. The 100 pulled the van like it wasn't there, but I noticed that the 300 was more susceptible to the "tail-wagging-the-dog" thing. I think it's to do with the fact that the V6 engine is about 100Kg lighter than the big V8 was, and although we have a bull bar on the front (as we did with the V8 too), that lighter front end makes the car more sensitive to the van motion. The solution? I put air bags in the rear coils of the 300 just for leveling up, but the biggest improvement came when we installed an Oz Glide on the draw bar of the van. Incredible the difference that made. It decouples the van motion from the car. Best buck for buck money we spent on the whole setup. I have no affiliation with Oz Glide, just one of the many very happy users. They're made here in Queensland, too, on the Sunny Coast.

Great ad for the Y62, sounds great!

Dam that patrol is hard

Dam that y62 just makes me want one looks so good can’t wait to see u take that out on the tracks

At the end of the day, The Patrol still saved you...therefore, the Patrol is the ONE to buy...period!

That was EPIC! love the van getting sideways in the rear vision mirror! glad your not towing my van though mate haha! this is a real life towing test! love your work!

You can't compare the 300 torque with the Y62. The 300 doesn't get enough torque until the twin turbos cut in. We're as the Y62 is almost instant. The Nissan has more advantages in many ways manner and forms. LOL Cheers 🇭🇲😀👍🍻🍻

Thank Fck I ordered a Y62. Arrives June and saved $30k. Yes we test drove the 300, we done 7 kms and took it back.

Love the driving mate. Not just giving up. Appreciate someone actually trying

You buy a car as expensive as the 300, then you have to buy a new suspension for it. Top stuff!!

A bloody good honest opinion at the end, well done guys.

This is the best bit of content I've seen in ages! Love the Y62 recovery!

Time to fill the tank! - something Shauno should remember :D Awesome to see you have a channel , Ruben! Wish you all the best!

Loved every minute of it 👌

Great review man and bring on that beast of a 62 hahah

Well done big fella! Love to see a repeat with the GR Sport. Cheers

100% agree about the lane assist, its dangerous how much they can grab, I drove a hire vehicle along the Strzelecki into outback qld and missing road kill was painful. Definitely think if people need this feature they shouldn't be on the road

Great video Reuben and an epic tow test. I have been following the new 300 since launch and would love to own one, though as you said, it is certainly on the pricey side, even for the base model. I have never owned a 4WD, though I have taken the 300 Sahara for a test drive and was super impressed with the power on tap and delivery through the 10 speed auto. It really surprised me with the get up and go, certainly nothing like other diesel cars I have ridden in. I love what you guys do at DMW and the adventures you have with Shaun and the boy's. One day I look forward to bringing in a 300 series Cruiser for you to work your magic and give it the full DMW treatment. Love your work and keep the videos flowing. 👍👍

I’ve always treated and thought lane keep assist is always for the straight motorways in case you start to drift off. To stop alert you that you should probably have a break as you’re starting to either micro sleep or lose attention. Anywhere else it’s useless.

Just look at headrests in the backseats when he is taking about the bumps looks like a serious vibration going true the vehicle

Another honest review, well done Ruben. 👍

Very good, honest and practical review!

Much prefer the cruise control stalk over the steering wheel buttons. You don’t have to look at the controls to operate, The stalk is the most ergonomic and intuitive system of any car

Patrol to the rescue !!! This new engine is an overall better design than the previous 4.5 I'm sure. Mated to the 10 speed it makes for an awesome drivetrain. It's the rest of the vehicle that I don't like at all personnally. Patrol all the way !

Ruben, you are an entertaining madman! Please don’t change👍

Mate you are a classic love it great testing for the 300 but I want that y62 hands down think I will have to get me one of them

Coming to this vid after the 4wd247 episode...and the intro got me like not again Rueben.

Great review, I have a GXL on order and can't wait to see what you guy's can help with for GVM, GCM and possibly even BTC upgrade.. keep the info flowing..👍🏻👍🏻

Hi , I currently own one of the last GXL 2021 LC200 with just 7000klm on the clock: With 6000klms towing a 2.7ton van. Recently I was lucky to have a loan of a Sahara 300 for 24 hours. What annoys me is that out of all the LC300 reviews I have read and seen on KZfaq, nobody comments on how noisey the new V6 motor is . It became evident as soon as I started driving. I have completed my own in cab comparison noise test under full load and acceleration with the engines getting to 4000rpm. The 200 came in at 80DCB and the 300 at 90DCB. A significant difference if you know how sound measurement works.With a ten speed gear box the engine will always be revving harder and higher and I found noise level unacceptable for a Sahara. Not to mention the bonnet shaking around on suburban roads. Please try this test for yourself with standard exhaust systems. The 300 is a good vehicle however If I Had the opportunity to clean swap vehicles, definitely no, The 200 would still be my pick hands down .

I’ll never get sick of thaw view either, I love that area.

Hi Reuben, just seen the 4wd 24/7 video where you rolled your 79. Scary moment indeed!

You can't beat the Y62, best overall package...

You do the best tow test videos mate. Keep up the good work. By the way,have you finished Greames y62 yet. Would love to see a video on that. Cheers

It would be interesting to see things like the 2021+ Isuzu MUX, Ssangyong Rexton, etc doing minor tow tests or 4x4 tests. - all of which offer 4x4 & locking rear diffs among other things.

Hi Mate, I have driven a 2014 and 2018 200 series for the last 8 years and just taken delivery of my new 300. The real difference with my experience and yours are mine have all been GX spec. The fist one was kept std with a little ARB protection gear on it only. The 2018 one we did the GVM upgrade with Old man emu remote shocks, bigger wheels and lots of protection gear. It drove and performed so much better than the first one and towed our 3.4 tonne van so we’ll, without the need to use the stabilisers. Coming from these to the GX 300 is like a game changer, it actually has buttons on the steering wheel 😋. I love it and the drive is so much better, as you know there is no approved GVM upgrade available right now, but I’m told there will be very soon. I really enjoyed your towing test video and being a Toyota man, I think money for value at the GX level, now that Toyota have put some fruit on it, it is much better that the Y62 in so many ways and worth a good look before spending over $100k. David.

when are you guys gonna do a rundown of the y62

Seriously considering trading my 200 series on a RAM2500 for another big lap better GVM and GCM. The 300 series cost plus GVM upgrade cost is getting expensive and I still have to compromise on weight.

I bet Grahams gonna love this!

Still don’t understand why 200 and especially 300 LC owners worry about fuel economy considering the stupid money they pay for those vehicles in the first place!!! They have to have more dollars than $ence.

What’s the exhaust on the y62? I love the way your not worried about getting things scratched bent or dirty so good to see the real world tests you do that y62 is just an absolute beast 🤤 imagine a harrop turbo and 5 inch snorkel on it

as if anyone in their wright mind would tow a van in that sh#t with a stock car with the Mrs blowing up in your ear.Great review.Im tossing up between the 200,300 & Y62.I apreciate your honesty.Seems like there is still a significant outlay to get the 300 to be comfortable off road.

Great video. Traded my S5 Y62 for a 300. It’s miles nicer as a daily drive, I love it so far. I feel like the suspension is too soft though and have some Bilstein BP60 on the way. And you are right about the lane keep assist, turn it off generally.

Wow, a ZX on stock tyres and road suspension doing so much!!? No wonder my friend is obsessed with his GR-S if a lower spec can do so much. Lovely content mate. Might have to agree this car is an improvement, taking into account it is stock and its potential if tuned, oh my oh my! Might have to look out one for myself...

Hi mate, I’m getting a VX in the next few months does it come with the wires pre installed?

what was the towball down weight in this test and by how much did the tow ball height drop with the weight of the van connected?

Is the rear chassis of LC300 same to LC200 ??? The question is can I fit Bring towbar from LC 200 on LC300 ??? Waiting for your response Thanks

Was this stock suspension off the showroom floor? Did you have just airbags in?

great review Reuben, all the Toyota boys will want one, just like when the 200 was released over the 100 series, takes a while to us old diehards to adjust

Nice Vid. thanks. Any idea what the van puts on the towball. As in ball weight. Thanks.

Love the comment from Glen Toyota recovery mode 😜😜

Toyota moved the camera centrally - thank god! ESC just like ABS, nup. The real test for this new car is to go to central Australia and tow the van in 48 deg heat to check the heat soak of the hot V design. Would have been good to hook up a scan gauge to check transmission temps - ie does it lock or continue to fluff about.

Great review Rubin. I found the 300 very noisy in the cab. My big concern is the inter coolers and the position. To use 1 of these as a tourer it would be imperative to have frontal collision protection. I am a 62 lover however.

I feel the ride being rough will have not been helped by the 20 inch rims. Thanks for the review. It would have been very difficult to bag out the tyres, with such low profile tyres too. You're right about the GR suspension. Chalk & Cheese. So much more comfortable than the lesser models. :)

Watching that y62 recover those Toyota’s made my day.

I will be interested I. How you bypass the electronic front suspension on the ZX

Gday Ruben , what model 300 are you running ?

definitely getting the Y62, the 300 Prado lookalike is a soccer dad car, already have a Prado, trading the 2008 petrol 200 for a y62 obviously with cash adjustment 😂

Hey mate great video. Can you please do a 79 series tow test? Something like mits one. 1-100 of your viewers would be able to afford a 300 series. 2012 79 series are going for say 50k I’ve seen a lot of people buying these to tow there caravans because that’s in the price range. I myself have one too but you make a great video and would love to hear your thoughts on them and watch it in towing action.

That patrol is unstoppable!

Great show well done Alot of information yes it would've been fun out there

Would like to see the new Defender 110 D300 do the same test. Love ya work.

Stock tyres on mud with a large van. Not so smart…..

Will be interested to see how the 300 comes out once all the mods become available. When you say "not as good as 200 series or Y62" I would argue that if those were better stock there wouldn't have been so much of a need to modify them. Will be very interested to see a comparison of 300 and 200 and Y62 once they're all running upgraded suspension, 33s, chassis extension and properly run in. Nobody likes change, and for those who truly love the 200 or Y62, any change would be mostly unwelcome. When this becomes the new standard the 400 series will be criticized, just as the 200 was in its early days. Looking forward to seeing more

A good test. Just curious re weights. 45:39 Is your van a 3500gvm or 3000? Once you chop it are you going to do a gvm upgrade? Love to see you go through that side of towing with weights and accidents on the news. Cheers.

Good video mate. Must be the 20inch wheels that make it rough on dirt roads.

Love the sound of the Y62

🤘Awesome work Reuben, looks like one of those magic microfibre cloths need to be bought out to clean the mud off 😅Y62 prob used 25 liters pulling ya up the hill !! 300 looks like Top Stuff..

As a Toyota guy with a much modified troopy, that chopped patrol gave me a boner and I'm now looking for a clean 2nd hand one to replicate (sports cars are for Oxford Street cruisers and hairdressers). Mate, the fact that you were willing to commit that overpriced, weak and wobbly 300 to that level of tow test is truly awesome, just like you putting your 79 on its side on 4wd 24/7, massive commitment, I know where I'm spending my hard earned.

Great advert for the y62 lol seems like everyone is keen on jumping over to the 300 because it's new and shiny toy lol. I'd be happy to stick with the 200 it's been around a while and the parts and R&D have been done.

Stock tyres or not, the 300 should have done much better than that. It goes to show the mighty Nissan Y62 pulling out the whole shebang is definitely the King!

How much weight does a bull bar, decent winch and adequate tow bar add to the GVM to pull a 3+ tonne trailer.

Couple of things about your hitching-up procedure though. On my GR Sport, it wouldn't let me back up to the drawbar - until I turned off the rear park brake assist function that's designed to stop you backing into a wall or another car in the car park. Button near the right knee solved that one. Second, although you crossed your chains, they're pretty slack so probably wouldn't hold the nose of the van up if the tow hitch came undone, as you rightly say. Looks like they're a few links too long, to me. And lastly - you left one wire dangling - looked like the cable for the rear camera on the caravan. We have the Safety Dave on the back of our van, and that cable is essential if you want to see who's directly behind the van, rather than waiting for a bend in the road so the towing mirrors might get a glimpse of them. Speaking of towing mirrors - where are they?

I know the LC300 is a beast but do people really factor in the suspension upgrades and dual cab conversations, What is the total cost of GVM upgrade and chop to add in canopy ?

Hey Reuben if all three vehicles cost the exact same then what one would you pick?

Disappointing to see tojo only offering the kdss on the GR when it works so well, my current 200 has it and it's awesome what it does for the handling. I have ordered a GR sport. Not sure if I will sell my 200 VX. Such a good thing.

Thanks for the test, very interesting. I have a LC200(last model before DPF). I have done 235,000 faultless Km. Not a squeak, rattle leak or anything else. Just what I expect from a Toyota. I tow a 19' 6" van that was also towed previously by my 120 series Prado. Until recently I used stabiliser bars on the cruiser/van combo. I found that the 185kg load on the towball left the nose of the cruiser pointing a little bit skyward. You could clearly see it when you hooked up the van. I ended up putting ARB shocks(not the ones with the remote reservoirs) and springs all round(200kg I believe). Made a world of difference to the standard setup when towing. I could get rid of those bloody stabiliser setup on the van. Yippeee! However, for me, the the ride when not towing has degraded. It is a more harsh ride and maybe a fraction noisier(but I have no proof of that). Off roading is definitely better now, but I don't do a lot of off-roading anyway, so it is not such a loss. But it is a trade off I am prepared to accept I am prepared to accept because it tows beautifully now. It was good before too but I had to hookup that stabiliser setup each time I connected to the van. When you think about it, 200kw out of a 4.5L V8 engine is pretty ordinary, but the torque which come in so low(not like the Y62) is excellent. A solution is perhaps to get it reprogrammed and an exhaust, but for most upping the power of your donk is not the reason you buy a Toyota. You buy a Toyota because after you've done your 300, 400, 500.000 km and it has been looked after(serviced) there is a real good chance it will be still running fine. Just look at all the 80 series you still see running around all over the shop(and of course out on the trails). I live on the edge of the victorian high plains and the things are everywhere(not run down shit heaps, but good looking capable vehicles). As I'm sure everybody knows they came on the scene in 1990. Holy shit 33ish years ago! I expect to get that out of mine. All while still being a very capable vehicle on and OFF road. Thanks for the great video

Took a 300 for a test drive and find it a little bouncy over bumps Will choose Y62 anyway and anyday Greetings from south africa 🇿🇦 😀

Did anyone notice the van is leaning backwards, The 300’s surpsension is amazing

Weren't you testing in a Sahara ZX? Doesn't that have air suspension? You mention it was going in the shop for suspension upgrade, what did you upgrade it to? I wasn't aware you could change anything on the ZX.

good job 👍

Ruben the crossing chain nag has it's effect after the break , the caravan broke and the chain starts. the caravan goes to left the metal has break point and the behavior changesThe crossed and broken metal gets puled opposite way Tadaaa.

Who can drag their 79 on the canopy no problem? Looking forward to the damage report.

Have driven both the 200 series & 300 series (albeit a GR Sport) - I think the ride and handling is streets ahead in the 300 Series. Much smoother & better planted than the 200. Ordered a new 300 GR sport as my next vehicle so time will tell -- the long wait begins....

Does this vehicle come with a tow haul mode?

With normal road tyres, those slick conditions and a heavy caravan on the back, I thought the Land Cruiser 300 did well to get as far as it did! Most full-size SUVs or 4x4s these days have impressive performance. Some seem to be better than others at certain things, but they are all really very impressive in my opinion. I respect brand loyalty, but I personally prefer to choose a vehicle that best suits my particular needs and is available in the market that I am in (Japan). That would automatically rule out the Patrol as Nissan in their wisdom, have decided not to sell the Patrol (aka Safari as it was called here) since about 20 years ago. Loved this video!

I test drove the Sahara the other day and thought it seemed too firm on road. It seemed to feel every bump, and the engine seemed to always be in a lower gear - I was so surprised by this. It made me question if it’s for me. I do like a lot of the updates though.

Close your eyes and you’d swear it was the burnout pit at SummerNats!!

3:40 i can say for sure i have never left it up as none of my hitch's have the latch thing to hold it up.

Can you do Toyota Land Cruiser LC300 vs Nissan Patrol 2023

Very interesting test. But like all the 300 series towing tests I have seen nobody has used any towing mirrors, how can that be legal ? I have a GXL on order arriving soon hopefully.

Can you get your hands on a GR Sport and run it over the same conditions👍.

Would be awesome if you could put chapters in for each element. Curious to know fuel consumption but I don’t have time to watch it all.

Mate, you should’ve tried to use the crawl control system the car has

I am really confused by this review in regards to the handling aspects - 200 Series is a wallowing boat compared to a 300 series . I really liked the two times I have driven the 300 - it's really moved things forward in particular regarding the suspension (both drives passive- i.e. GXL and VX). I think that you are comparing very modified 200 series cruisers vs what comes out of the showroom. It may not be deliberate, maybe subconscious.... Haven't driven the Y62 but both cruisers are not close to the Discovery 4 for handling and steering feel (except for the all important reliability yes I know). I am waiting for the new Everest to be reviewed as I think that the 300 series is very over priced and the Everest has grown in all dimensions (1st March launch).

I have waited a year to make this comment, having owned three 200 series prior and now the ZX. To say your videos are informative , honest and entertaining is an understatement, just love how you say it as it is regardless, all the good and the bad. Having said that, I have owned a ZX now for a year and reflect on your thoughts to improve my vehicle to the point that it is better than the 200 in all areas, not just a few. The big thing I would have liked you to have touched on during that test and given your thoughts on, was the adaptive variable suspension the ZX actually has which is totally different to the Sahara. You totally dismissed that important feature of the car which would have given a different opinion of the outcome I could assume at the end. You have the option to choose anything from Eco, Comfort, Normal, sports, and Sports plus, which when dialled in, totally changes the damping and comfort levels as you drive. Not only does it change the dampening of the car, it also changes the throttle response as well, giving a more spritely and responsive throttle performance. The difference between modes as quite noticeable and if you would have changed the suspension settings to comfort over the rougher surfaces, I would have loved to have heard your thoughts, however you didn't even touch on that ability of the vehicle, I'm just assuming you wasn't aware of that feature at the time. You Have to also think that the ZX has a Rear torque-sensing Limited Slip Differential (LSD) which I would assume assisted you during your faster driving on slippery surfaces as well, so the difference between that and even the GR-Sports would have been vastly different given that it's set-up with front and rear diff locks with an open diff which is a disadvantage on the GR-Sport when driving on the black top particularly on slippery and rough surfaces. Thanks for the informative and insight to the ZX, it was very entertaining and honest. Good luck with the Chop, and looking forward to the improvements you make in the future. Keep it up, love it.

So you’ve paid what, $130k for a tow vehicle and you still need you upgrade the suspension?

04:30 crossed chains in a legal requirement - they form a 'basket; in case of hitch or receiver failure.

Can you please tell us what the towing mass of the van was?

Was looking to buy a LC300, very excited, but after the test drive, all the excitement was out the door. Went and purchase a Y62 instead. Better drive and enormous space inside which is perfect for the family. The LC300 seems like a CX9 inside, too tight.

Do you think the toughness of the ride on the dirt was anything to do with those 20 inch wheels? It would have been a factor for sure.