Do Heavier Guitars *REALLY* Sustain Longer? - Let's Find Out!!

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Darrell Braun Guitar

Darrell Braun Guitar

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@danielkatz2971
@danielkatz2971 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Darrell, why not glue it back together and bust the myth that multi-piece bodies aren't as good for tone?
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea! I'll add it to my list :)
@HellcatCustoms
@HellcatCustoms 5 жыл бұрын
The original guitar was many pieces to begin with. It makes zero difference in either tone or sustain.
@MeatisMagic256
@MeatisMagic256 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, glue isn't resonant. It does affect the instrument.
@HellcatCustoms
@HellcatCustoms 5 жыл бұрын
Titebond and hide glue both cure to a glass like structure, bonding two pieces of wood into one. It's not like strips of rubber. The only difference between a 1 piece and 4 piece body is aesthetics.
@HellcatCustoms
@HellcatCustoms 5 жыл бұрын
My Gibson Firebird V is an 11 piece sandwich of wood and it sustains like you wouldn't believe. Yea it's neck through, which helps, but the neck/center itself is 9 pieces glued together.
@TheCerealQuiler
@TheCerealQuiler 5 жыл бұрын
"That's when I learned people listen with their eyes!"" - Les Paul, 1940.
@abarbee81
@abarbee81 4 жыл бұрын
How is this not more upvoted?
@isaacwilliams9919
@isaacwilliams9919 4 жыл бұрын
it’s the most upvoted
@ZaneDalton
@ZaneDalton 4 жыл бұрын
Isaac Williams no it’s not there’s one with 400 and one with 1.4K, and that just looking at the first five.
@Magnulus76
@Magnulus76 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Most of the discussion about "tonewoods" with electric guitars is snake oil.
@sirspongadoodle
@sirspongadoodle Жыл бұрын
Tone wood and pickups are the 2 biggest wastes of time.
@vicsguitargrotto786
@vicsguitargrotto786 5 жыл бұрын
Err Darrell, ..when I said you could borrow my guitar....
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@theresaflowers1191
@theresaflowers1191 5 жыл бұрын
@@onesource9527 Doh!!
@RobertAllenroballen2
@RobertAllenroballen2 5 жыл бұрын
Hahateeheeteehee...gafawww
@BWhatEverTV
@BWhatEverTV 5 жыл бұрын
😆😜
@jazzram_
@jazzram_ 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@marktheshark99
@marktheshark99 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's because it's red. Red guitars have the best tone.
@leonpolev
@leonpolev 4 жыл бұрын
DA RED SONDZ CULA
@carnivaltym
@carnivaltym 4 жыл бұрын
Joe. Walsh always said that.
@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040
@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040 4 жыл бұрын
Never give up with artificial reasons.
@francispascual6404
@francispascual6404 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@339Jackscarify
@339Jackscarify 4 жыл бұрын
OI DIZ HUMIE HAZ A BIG NOB! RED GOEZ FASTAH N HAZ KILLA TONZ
@teddydavis3504
@teddydavis3504 5 жыл бұрын
That’s the most extreme relic job I’ve seen someone do. It must be worth a lot of money now.
@StefanoRod
@StefanoRod 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAAH
@kokindenom
@kokindenom 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@rajdeepganguli2274
@rajdeepganguli2274 5 жыл бұрын
How many guitars do you have? Darrell: 40.125
@TheGhostGuitars
@TheGhostGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I'd think it's 40,124.30 now, lol! Edit: oops excuse me, thought that was a comma (,) not a period (.). Never read posts while riding a bus that's rattling and banging along on a bumpy road. All ye see are a blur as the phone (and ye) gets rattled up/down.
@frownonline
@frownonline 5 жыл бұрын
Always one short of enough.
@rajdeepganguli2274
@rajdeepganguli2274 5 жыл бұрын
@Florian Späth 40 + 0.125 Because he just trimmed this guitar into pieces
@normanmastrian
@normanmastrian 5 жыл бұрын
4
@cuauhtemocmorisco3493
@cuauhtemocmorisco3493 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@MrPhantomLord11
@MrPhantomLord11 3 жыл бұрын
May we take a moment and appreciate what this guy does? He cuts guitars, he buys lots of guitars, amps, pedals, pickups, different strings etc...just to give us the knowledge and facts for free, meanwhile costing him big bucks. Cheers up, mate! As a thank you i like on all videos and watch em until the end as a way to return the favor. Keep up the good work and we will keep supporting you. All the best from Bulgaria!
@randomdude93-93
@randomdude93-93 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely man! I was actually hoping to do some work to shape my left handed Jackson . Now I know I can afford to cut some off.
@opidonorman8833
@opidonorman8833 Жыл бұрын
Cheers indeed
@metalfatigue
@metalfatigue 11 ай бұрын
If you were constantly buying guitars and losing money, he wouldn't be smiling all the time. Either he can afford to buy stuff to try, or he makes enough from KZfaq and t-shirts to cover the cost.
@FrankCosbyNo-Relation
@FrankCosbyNo-Relation 11 ай бұрын
He makes more money from the video
@arbazann
@arbazann 4 жыл бұрын
Alternate title: How To Make A Travelcaster.
@jazzram_
@jazzram_ 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@dailupwarlord
@dailupwarlord 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen some pretty heavy relic jobs, but this is a whole new level.
@anuragmishra1315
@anuragmishra1315 5 жыл бұрын
*to show you the power of flex tape I sawed this guitar in half*
@jahardo
@jahardo 5 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of damage
@JohnSmith-ns4ip
@JohnSmith-ns4ip 5 жыл бұрын
But does the flex tape add more sustain? Hmm......
@peterdeven9493
@peterdeven9493 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-ns4ip thinking emoji
@scottkendall5655
@scottkendall5655 5 жыл бұрын
HA! Good one.
@ikarus1111a
@ikarus1111a 5 жыл бұрын
NOW THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE!
@zackatreides8025
@zackatreides8025 5 жыл бұрын
I did it on my acoustic guitar and there is a huge difference!;) Studio one❤️
@sheldon6864
@sheldon6864 5 жыл бұрын
@@KeithBlade lol....😮
@anthonystark5412
@anthonystark5412 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeithBlade I'm not sure that I believe your assertion. Please cite your references.
@anthonystark5412
@anthonystark5412 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeithBlade We're kidding, dude. It's obvious that cutting away parts of an acoustic guitar will deprive it of its resonance. I get the impression that you're genuinely trying to help, so no hard feelings, okay?
@bentlyist
@bentlyist 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeithBlade I think you may have missed that he was being a bit funny 😉
@mcbiker77
@mcbiker77 4 жыл бұрын
This can off course only be done on acoustic guitar if an acoustic saw is used...
@currencylad7125
@currencylad7125 5 жыл бұрын
That looks totally sick! Can you test on a 1959 gold top Les Paul? I'm thinking of doing this mod.
@andrewkim3679
@andrewkim3679 5 жыл бұрын
Currency Lad oh no
@adamskold6395
@adamskold6395 3 жыл бұрын
@@drakey27 Refin of a Burst, so it's basically worthless anyway
@heehee7373
@heehee7373 2 жыл бұрын
This is what expensive experiment means
@dildonicplague
@dildonicplague Жыл бұрын
Do it with a 59 gold top Les Paul vs 68 strat with that KZfaq money!
@tdtom1376
@tdtom1376 5 жыл бұрын
do heavier gutarists sustain longer?
@danterosales6985
@danterosales6985 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Havent you seen jared dines video on a phat bass tone??
@kimthompson5871
@kimthompson5871 5 жыл бұрын
td tom lol or just eat more ?
@RandyRelish99
@RandyRelish99 5 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty big and I can only last a few seconds
@tdtom1376
@tdtom1376 5 жыл бұрын
alas, it is too late to ask B B King or Leslie West... or even cousin IZ.
@stankfanger1366
@stankfanger1366 5 жыл бұрын
I have an '84 Les Paul and I know the back pain sustains longer. I think the tree they cut it from was petrified.
@scott22v
@scott22v 5 жыл бұрын
How to convert your strat to a steinberger
@MartinMichiels
@MartinMichiels 5 жыл бұрын
Squierberger !
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to say this!
@anhu7393
@anhu7393 5 жыл бұрын
Bite your tongue. That's like chipping away at a rotting tree stump until you have an exquisite marble statue.
@thetincan_man
@thetincan_man 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@RahulDas-zy6ut
@RahulDas-zy6ut 3 жыл бұрын
thinking the same
@arnottclark6959
@arnottclark6959 5 жыл бұрын
I love how this demonstration destroyed the sustain myth ! That was so informative !
@Augrills
@Augrills 8 ай бұрын
How did it destroy the myth? The heaviest guitar sustained the most. I don’t know how he comes to the conclusion when the data shows it did have a consistent effect on sustain
@JD-mn7sv
@JD-mn7sv 5 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for years. The bridge affects 95% of the sustain along with the density of it's metal composition. Fixed bridges sustain longer than floating since the springs absorb string oscillation. The density of the wood the bridge rests on will give or take a negligible amount(denser wood=longer) since soft wood resonates and absorbs string oscillation (energy). It's simple physics.
@DestructX
@DestructX 5 жыл бұрын
So there is no other way than sustain pedal to have longer sustain on floating bridge?
@JD-mn7sv
@JD-mn7sv 5 жыл бұрын
That depends on what your goals are and the metal composition. Cheaper Floyd Rose bridges have softer metal whereas the Original FR has hardened metal and critical contact points. You can also buy thicker blocks for these tremolos which also help sustain since more metal makes oscillation absorption from this bridge more difficult, hence increased sustain.
@DestructX
@DestructX 5 жыл бұрын
@@JD-mn7sv I have original FR. When I bend a string and do a vibrato after my tone dies too soon, so I have to hit the string multiple times in 1 vibrato that it lasts and it's annoying.
@JD-mn7sv
@JD-mn7sv 5 жыл бұрын
It's normal to lose sustain after a string bend regardless of bridge, especially after returning to the original note. Keep in mind when you bend a string you are increasing the pitch which means string oscillation is faster. That stored energy while bending up, now dissipates once the string returns to it's original pitch. Add to that the sustain of that string has now opened back up further decreasing sustain. This is why bending up sounds more even in volume, but releasing a bend tends to warrant an extra pluck depending on note duration.
@DanzoSrife
@DanzoSrife 5 жыл бұрын
@@JD-mn7sv How do u get those long ass sustained Nothing Else Mattere bends at the end of the song? :D
@coolguy3183
@coolguy3183 5 жыл бұрын
You should use wood glue and put it back together to look like Frankenstein stitches
@TheGhostGuitars
@TheGhostGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
That's do-able with biscuit joints. ;)
@guitarscarsetc.etc.7215
@guitarscarsetc.etc.7215 5 жыл бұрын
That would be cool
@gregszy8575
@gregszy8575 5 жыл бұрын
To have real franken-guitar it should be nailed or stapled together
@JWCFB
@JWCFB 5 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Darrell. Man, talk about going the extra mile. What a fantastic video!
@carlrae7129
@carlrae7129 5 жыл бұрын
When I was running a music store my opinion was always “If it sounds better to you, then it sounds better.”
@R.Stridstrom
@R.Stridstrom 5 жыл бұрын
That is probably the best way to look at it. And, if you got one you are happy with, don't compare, ever - don't go looking for "greener grass" - because it's an neverending endeavour :)
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr 5 жыл бұрын
Back before this debate was a “thing”, I thought it was a no brainer. Once I dove into it and watched all these tests, I eventually came to this conclusion. The parts of the guitar most responsible for your sound are the nut, saddle, pickups and most importantly, your technique. The reason you buy an expensive guitar is because the attention to detail means it’ll be more stable....tuning and intonation will stay put and your setups will last. Fret ends won’t poke out as much and often times it’ll feel better to play which will, in turn, make you play better. Not always but often. Not only that but you buy into a company’s legacy when you buy one of their best instruments. My American made fenders and martins (this is a different story...wood matters more here) are very inspiring to play because I’m strumming an instrument which has a storied lineage with roots tracing back not only to some of the most significant events in popular music but our country’s history as well. Don’t buy a high end solid body electric because you think the mahogany is going to sound better. Buy it because you want one...because it feels good to play...and because, in some weird way, it connects you to some of the greatest musical minds who’ve ever lived. And you know what? If you don’t wanna shell out the cash or somehow feel that these companies are “ripping you off” by charging what they do, buy something cheaper. There are so many great offerings under $500 nowadays, it’s almost mind-boggling.
@edwindude9893
@edwindude9893 4 жыл бұрын
manifestgtr gibberish. I make nuts out of 12 different materials. It’s the fit that makes the only difference.
@blazer6248
@blazer6248 4 жыл бұрын
What's crazy about this is my cheapest guitar is actually built better than the one I paid 6x the price for. It's heavier, body is thicker, notes sustain longer, it's got a 1 piece maple neck with figuring and some striping. It stays in tune better and has more overall playability. The bridge is made better and returns to pitch or whatever its called. The thing is amazing. E Especially for the $24 I paid for it in that auction! 😁
@moonwrusse5649
@moonwrusse5649 3 жыл бұрын
@@blazer6248 he said the fit... so u assume your cheap plastic nut had a good fit? And make this conclusion after a single test?
@peteanddrake4242
@peteanddrake4242 3 жыл бұрын
I play lots of instruments from piano to guitar and drums. As a musician, I have never played a more expensive instrument because of it's "lineage"--forgive me but I can't think of anything better to say than "that is stupid". I play an instrument that responds to my playing style and delivered the tone I need. Sometimes (where wood is involved), that means playing an older instrument because it has resonated and cured and "played in" over time. Buying and playing something for it's "storied lineage" has nothing to do with music and everything to do with ego and hubris.
@peteanddrake4242
@peteanddrake4242 3 жыл бұрын
@@blazer6248 lol:) we all own that guitar and resent the little bastard for being so good:)
@jerrymckenzie6205
@jerrymckenzie6205 5 жыл бұрын
Sounded like the low end thinned out a bit as the body got smaller.
@gropifiasco
@gropifiasco 5 жыл бұрын
attack yes, but it resolve at the the same level
@jayz6008
@jayz6008 5 жыл бұрын
I had always said this and I even posted about it on a forum and most people called me crazy.
@EvilSean62
@EvilSean62 5 жыл бұрын
@@jayz6008 yup me too ive been telling ppl for a while now ... also for tone ... wood isnt magnetic so unless your pups are truly microphonic , forget it
@sideoutside
@sideoutside 5 жыл бұрын
He picked the one note different. Nothing changed..
@michaelhulsey201
@michaelhulsey201 5 жыл бұрын
I heard it completely differently. For me, the low end boosted as the body got smaller. Maybe it did go more into the low-mid bands and my ears pick that up better?
@maratstrat
@maratstrat 5 жыл бұрын
I guess we can say that you've made CAstratocaster
@CJVideoProductions
@CJVideoProductions 5 жыл бұрын
This needs to be pinned! Amazing comment!
@dytakeda
@dytakeda 5 жыл бұрын
Winner.
@boseefusmacmurphy1156
@boseefusmacmurphy1156 5 жыл бұрын
Marat not enough people got your joke
@valvenator
@valvenator 5 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever, period!!!
@bigbokiptd
@bigbokiptd 5 жыл бұрын
I would glue it back together :D Thank you so much for the great experiment Darrell!!!
@zane.walker
@zane.walker 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Really insightful test results (although I am not too surprised). I also think you did an excellent job putting the results into perspective, especially for a topic that can bring out strong emotions on both sides of the argument.
@itchynerve
@itchynerve 5 жыл бұрын
He's the coolest, chillest guitar dude on here dude that's why I like him man i don't need cheesy bros tryin get some laughs, i need my guy DB he's the man chill gets to the point cool accent and just a likeable guy, keep rockin Darrell!
@squareeyedgit
@squareeyedgit 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@jzen1455
@jzen1455 4 жыл бұрын
That one wackyJim Carrey-esque bespectacled Canadian guitar dude on You Tube is very knowledgeable about guitar equipment and has some great reviews, but his guitar expertise is often marred by his hyper facial gesticulations and sudden jolting body movements, which I find overbearing at times. I understand the appeal, but it's just not my cuppa tea.
@alexandrevc
@alexandrevc 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. This initiatives help a lot to put an end to many unscientific conceptions regarding guitars and their construction. May I suggest you another topic? Tele bridge stringing: through bridge vs through body
@dimasnameee23
@dimasnameee23 5 жыл бұрын
After the sawing part ,i involuntarily blow at the screen.😂😂
@redelk2974
@redelk2974 2 жыл бұрын
wonderful video on sustain...truly eye-opening experiment. very well done. excellent experiment technique..thank you sir, very informative not to mention very brave! Musta been fun cutting it up though...
@SamGlasser
@SamGlasser 5 жыл бұрын
Les Paul already demonstrated this with a paper mache guitar, playing with real musicians, no one knew the difference. There seemed to be some skepticism regarding the concept of a solid body guitar verses a hollow body such as the old f hole guitars. This was when electric guitars were first being experimented with.
@artiefischel2579
@artiefischel2579 5 жыл бұрын
You really need a warning on this. I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight, for fear of having dreams about a smiling guy with a chainsaw coming after my guitars. Oh, jeez, it's gonna be a long night...
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
😂 Keep your guitars close to you tonight! 😄😄😄
@ru14jazz
@ru14jazz 5 жыл бұрын
I thought to myself, "surely he's not going to REALLY cut that guitar up" and then ZZZZZZZZZ he does. I had to push my eyes back into my head and pick my jaw up off of the floor. Oh, the PAIN. lol
@TheGhostGuitars
@TheGhostGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
Hey at least he didn't do that with a $5k+ American Fender...or did he...?! (Frantically scrolls back video, no sign of the headstock, oh no!, checks the description, YES!) A Squier Affinity Strat. Ok, couldn't get much lower than that except perhaps a Starcaster. You can rest easy. ...Altho my 2 modded Starcasters may have nightmares tonight. LOL
@artiefischel2579
@artiefischel2579 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarrellBraunGuitar I fully expect a video where you put that back together in some artistic fashion, so get those bits out of the trash. Frankenfretless ?
@alanwalker1698
@alanwalker1698 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGhostGuitars Actually a Starcaster is more of a guitar then an Affinity. It's full size , unlike the thinner Affinity.
@russianbot2397
@russianbot2397 5 жыл бұрын
I was always skeptical about weight and tone woods ever since i was a teenager in the mid 90's. You just confirmed my suspicions with this experiment. Thank you so much.
@uptopmikep7065
@uptopmikep7065 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison Darrell. Thanks. It's really illuminating and really silences the BS discussions and claims about "tone woods". Your point about the feeling and resonance against your body is more meaningful when choosing a guitar. Thanks much mate!
@littlebritain64
@littlebritain64 5 жыл бұрын
The test that every guitarist wished to see but no guitarist in the world dared to do!!
@pastorthomaso
@pastorthomaso 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, awesome shirt!
@josuegomez4470
@josuegomez4470 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information test mr darrell. Thanks
@debaxeldan
@debaxeldan 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting videos I've ever seen on electric guitars! You are a genius!
@mmore
@mmore 5 жыл бұрын
you now own the heaviest relic Stratocaster in the world courtesy of curiosity science and a black and decker jigsaw 😂😂😂
@j_freed
@j_freed 5 жыл бұрын
And also the lightest.
@TheGhostGuitars
@TheGhostGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
VERY worn down, lol!
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 5 жыл бұрын
mmmoris1360 Yeah, and wait til the Fender Custom Shop sees this. I can see a Masterbuilt version pushing 10 grand.
@coolsprus101
@coolsprus101 5 жыл бұрын
Kudos for actually doing this out on the snow.
@DylanTalksTone
@DylanTalksTone 5 жыл бұрын
Darrel you beat me to it! This was on my list. Great job!!
@yogaaditama3392
@yogaaditama3392 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Really appreciate it dude
@laughingdaffodils5450
@laughingdaffodils5450 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! So good to see someone doing tests instead of just spewing opinion. So the body weight isn't so important, how about the headstock? Does the fender fatfinger really work or are they pure placebo?
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Well, after this at least you know those strap-locks and locking tuners you added aren't gonna change your tone! :p The guitar did become slightly more "mid/upper-mid" focused as I mentioned in the video, but the EQ charts show that it still had a nice usable balance across all frequencies :)
@landonbailey
@landonbailey 5 жыл бұрын
white guitars sound better. ask Billy Corgan 😄
@joacovidal
@joacovidal 5 жыл бұрын
Small changes like those (even big changes like cutting chunks of wood) are pretty safe for the tone. The big differences are between wood species and maybe in the bridge
@tdtom1376
@tdtom1376 5 жыл бұрын
what is the white stuff in the video?
@landonbailey
@landonbailey 5 жыл бұрын
@@tdtom1376 Canada
@tdtom1376
@tdtom1376 5 жыл бұрын
@@landonbailey Oh! Sorry, it's summer here in New Zealand. glad someone caught my being cheeky.
@runningwithscissors0911
@runningwithscissors0911 4 жыл бұрын
Fun! Great, informative video!
@Can.M.
@Can.M. 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful video. Thanks a lot!
@walterkasper467
@walterkasper467 5 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that my sg is more affected by the band when playing on stage my les paul. Sounds more the same if I am playing alone or with the band but what a great experiment. Playing for about 60 years. I got a lot of over priced wood. Get a guitar that is comfortable and some great pickups. I like wagers. Thanks for the great video
@kenmasters007
@kenmasters007 5 жыл бұрын
I think the neck has more impact to sustain. I have a headless guitar and there is a noticeable difference. Great video.
@jeremiahchavez912
@jeremiahchavez912 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that guitar hang on the wall for all your other videos. And props to the new into.
@donwade-di8ny
@donwade-di8ny 9 ай бұрын
Darrell, you make the coolest darn videos! Always informative and entertaining! Thank you sir!
@quigley4440
@quigley4440 5 жыл бұрын
Drill some holes across the body thru the sustaining blocks and see if that changes things? Maybe Les Paul was right building the first guitar on a plank of a 2x4? Electric guitars just need a foundation to bolt down the mechanical parts. The wood is just window dressing then and a way to boost up the cost? Might save the rainforest by using a cheap composite material.
@BluesnG
@BluesnG 5 жыл бұрын
As a musician, I really appreciate this video.
@celtenator
@celtenator 2 жыл бұрын
Great experiment! I'm about to build a lap steel, and knowing this help immensely in my design and wood choice, thanks very much!
@bennega1615
@bennega1615 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Cheerful and informative channel! Love your content man! Keep up the good work, also your subscriber comunity seem to have a great sense of humor!
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel!
@bennega1615
@bennega1615 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarrellBraunGuitar Thank you! Channel cowbell already on for updates!
@mariogamutan6513
@mariogamutan6513 5 жыл бұрын
You're not auditioning for Discovery Channel, are you? 😁
@aeskaters1592
@aeskaters1592 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that possibly the increased sustain that players believe exists in a heavier instrument, is not a function of the total mass at all but rather a function of the density of the wood itself. I would love to see this demonstration, swapping the neck and electronics between a very heavy strat body and very light strat body. Obviously the woods would be different and this may the source of increased sustain that may (or may not) be real..Cheers and Thanks
@danielreyes3638
@danielreyes3638 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats Darrel!! Very cool videos! We need one Epi Sheraton VS Gibson 335!
@modhiab
@modhiab 5 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting!!! Thank you for explanation.
@chesapeake566
@chesapeake566 5 жыл бұрын
Love these myth buster videos.
@DBSG1976
@DBSG1976 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if my new Soloist had more sustain because it's body is bigger and 3 more pounds on average than my Strats. I never noticed a difference, but I thought it was my playing...thanks for the experiment Darrell!
@homeworldmusic
@homeworldmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo to you. There are audiophile sites that insist on the noticeable difference between types of power cable or usb patch cable but curiously none of those people seem to have the basic technology for actually measuring and displaying waveforms of the end results of the different setups. I love this video, thank you!
@jimmyt5241
@jimmyt5241 5 жыл бұрын
Nice guitar collection on the wall bro !
@landonbailey
@landonbailey 5 жыл бұрын
That poor Fender Elite Stratocaster! Well now you have a travel guitar 😁
@PrivilegedWhiteMan
@PrivilegedWhiteMan 5 жыл бұрын
its a squier...
@MBoss3005
@MBoss3005 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought!
@landonbailey
@landonbailey 5 жыл бұрын
@@PrivilegedWhiteMan i know 😊
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Close! It's a Custom Shop 60s Heavy Relic Strat 😉
@Szten
@Szten 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarrellBraunGuitar Well you won't get any heavier relic, will you?
@brandonodnarb730
@brandonodnarb730 5 жыл бұрын
Now you have a Strandberg!!
@guitarhobbywithdannythemedic
@guitarhobbywithdannythemedic Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@ArmanGrim
@ArmanGrim 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for this great test man , keep it up
@stevefleth
@stevefleth 5 жыл бұрын
I heard that the larger CBS head stocks have more sustain than the pre-CBS head stocks on Strats. Darrell, are you ready to cut into the head stock?
@blimeylimey13
@blimeylimey13 5 жыл бұрын
Great travel guitar!
@cliffw2000cliff
@cliffw2000cliff 4 жыл бұрын
Good Job Man! 🤠
@abbeydakotadawnson7382
@abbeydakotadawnson7382 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting topic Darrell
@jaikcooper8999
@jaikcooper8999 5 жыл бұрын
Its funny you did this video. I had seen John Mayall and the bluesbreakers. And John Mayall plays a strat configuration guitar with a basically chopped up body and is really small. Hearing it being played it diddnt seemed it didnt loose any sustain and still sounded great
@RichardsGuitarshop
@RichardsGuitarshop 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and you have just upset so many people who will swear the heavier the guitar the "better". LOL
@David-ob2gn
@David-ob2gn 5 жыл бұрын
You can hear in the video that the more of the guitar is removed, the less bass there is and the sound becomes thinner and more thock-y. You can see it if you look at the EQs from 8:40 onward: The more the guitar is removed, the faster and more the bass fades after playing a note.
@billschmidt3984
@billschmidt3984 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!!!!!
@rayraymond2952
@rayraymond2952 5 жыл бұрын
Darrel, --- [1] you have provided a masterpiece of a vid. Finally, after 65 years of rock-n-roll, guitar size & weight does make a difference. --- [2] Thus, for many years, with my Steinberger-style, small-body, headless guitars, I have been correct. My most lovely, light, small, & beautiful headless [a] two Steinberger Spirit GT-Pro Deluxes (HSH; one white & one black) & [b] one Hohner G3T (HSS) with replacement Seymour Duncan pickups are genius strokes on my part. My back appreciates these three wonders of practicality ... & now tone & sustain. --- [3] I almost feel like a genius. :) :) :) Richard
@jmitzenmacher5
@jmitzenmacher5 3 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing the strap was why the sustain went up for the last cut. Mass helps with sustain a little bit, but only because it makes it harder for your body to dampen the vibrations. The strap isolates the guitar from your body, so it meets less resistance.
@sirspongadoodle
@sirspongadoodle Жыл бұрын
It makes such a small difference that its not worth worrying about.. you cant tell me how heavy a guitar is just from hearing it.
@guitarnist
@guitarnist 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think it is a fair comparison using a Strat??? The Tremolo keeps the strings suspended and the bridge not in the wood like a non Trem guitar!! Might be an interesting second examination.
@khargrar
@khargrar 5 жыл бұрын
Plus the pickups are screwed on a floating plastic plate.
@Dystxnn
@Dystxnn 5 жыл бұрын
Yess! Thank you, sir! I'd love to see this brilliant idea come to life.
@transtremm
@transtremm 5 жыл бұрын
A wax potted pickup also changes sustain qualities
@henkehakansson2004
@henkehakansson2004 3 жыл бұрын
All this reminds me of an old avant-garde classical organist/pianist in Sweden, Karl-Erik Welin who once "played" a grand piano in a televised concert with a chainsaw. He sawed it too scraps during a 10-15 minutes piece (ha!), and actually accidentally cut himself in the leg, so the blood flowed quite visibly. Directly after it he got interviewed and was asked "Oh dear, that didn't wen't very well, you hurt yourself", in which he replied "No, I played a wrong note..." .
@doyleallen3762
@doyleallen3762 5 жыл бұрын
WoW that was surprising to me also! Thanks!
@amorfraternal3150
@amorfraternal3150 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting!!! Having this mythbuster issue solved can you try a lighter weight guitar with Temperament Fret vs. a normal weight that is to test what really causes sustain to improve significantly
@TheGuitarPit
@TheGuitarPit 5 жыл бұрын
Great video concept. I have a Strandberg that weighs 4.5lbs and it sustains with the rest of my guitars. Guess you proved it! :)
@CarcPazu
@CarcPazu 5 жыл бұрын
That's because a Strandberg guitar is made with tonewood made out of old viking boats that had a lot of epic and glorious adventures.
@frankanderson9552
@frankanderson9552 5 жыл бұрын
Love it! Fretless as well? Whenever I get the tone wood guy in my ear, I have my 2 words ready: Holdsworth, Steinberger
@Mattguitarmania
@Mattguitarmania 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your channel and I appreciated this video very much. It didn't turn out like I expected but it helps me determine which guitars I want to purchase. Thank you very much!
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad to help :)
@dangreving1094
@dangreving1094 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll be damned... i was totally expecting a different result,.. huh, wow ok then awesome. Thanks for sacrificing your guitar!
@backlom
@backlom 5 жыл бұрын
Dan Greving I agree. Thank you for taking one for the team
@danyavilaoficial
@danyavilaoficial 5 жыл бұрын
“ Oh by the way.....this video was sponsored by Steinberger...”
@m7alan7johnson7
@m7alan7johnson7 5 жыл бұрын
Love my Steinbergers!!!
@MustafaMertKazanc
@MustafaMertKazanc 5 жыл бұрын
Was a good test. Great video.
@alansturgess1324
@alansturgess1324 5 жыл бұрын
Yes - the point about resonance and that feel of vibrations when played unamplified really does help. The rest was quite surprising.
@hawkdl2
@hawkdl2 5 жыл бұрын
"Weight" or "size" in my experience only comes up (intentionally or not) in regards sustain as a surrogate for density - e.g., a 10 lb Les Paul vs. a 8 lb Les Paul - same size but very different density, and some argue different sustain. Further, the resonance that might matter is probably most centered on the bulk of material between the headstock and the bridge, including the density of the neck, with the rest of the guitar contributing less to sustain. The question would be: would a very dense-wood bodied guitar have more or less sustain than a very light-wood bodied guitar - of the same size.
@bobboitt3126
@bobboitt3126 5 жыл бұрын
Im going to guess NO. I had a pine telecaster that sustained just as long as my Mahogany/maple top Les Paul. Pine is no where near as dense.
@StratMatt777
@StratMatt777 5 жыл бұрын
@@bobboitt3126 I think it is likely important to also consider the bridge type in head-to-head comparisons, like string-thru tele vs Les paul style ("Tone Pro" is probably not the right word since that is a brand name). I think that Paul Reed Smith is correct when he says that guitars are subtractive... if that is correct, I suspect that LPs are probably warmer because the highest treble frequencies are lost due to the softer density of the mahogany. Since you are the LP owner here, what do you think?
@isodoublet
@isodoublet 5 жыл бұрын
The overall acoustic impedance of the body is effectively a function of mass, actually. The density comes out integrated over the volume.
@StratMatt777
@StratMatt777 5 жыл бұрын
@@isodoublet Also we are giving no consideration to the direction of the wood's grain with regard to whether or not it is parallel with the strings (of course it is the neck covers most of the distance between the nut and bridge). Important to note: I am not a physicist and I don't have a clue what I am talking about!
@RWulff007
@RWulff007 5 жыл бұрын
Grasping onto straws 🤣🤣 (Just kidding)
@VincentBakker1964
@VincentBakker1964 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool experiment!!!! Great! It seems to me that lesser wood is more sustain if you look at the waveforms! You could take snips between 3rd and 4th second of the recordings and analyze them for RMS levels! It seems there is more energy in that region on the last takes... If you send me the wavs of your recording or share them on the net I could test that! Please share the raw data so us crazy guitar fools can analyze further!! Maybe I could do a test where we put a guitar body in a vice to make the body weightier... Myths are busted right here!!!!
@Cr8Tron
@Cr8Tron 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if it was just me visually noticing this about the audio clips... Thanks for confirming that it's not! 😂
@robertmitchell2178
@robertmitchell2178 3 ай бұрын
Ah, the Edmonton snow is lovely and warm. Sawdust helps prevent slippery steps, good job.
@stevevaughan787
@stevevaughan787 5 жыл бұрын
fun with Squire's in the wood shop! Great science! Thanks. Snow in the backyard? You live up north / north east?
@TealTactics
@TealTactics 5 жыл бұрын
*2:00** when you buy that "Used - Like New" guitar on Reverb*
@gustavoazevedo9736
@gustavoazevedo9736 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@mrchrisbeaver
@mrchrisbeaver 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to the fat E on these clips at 8:40 and just concentrate on that E resonating while he picks the other strings and you will hear the depth of that note resonates less and less with each cut
@lordlemmingman
@lordlemmingman 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I felt as well
@crazywisdom2
@crazywisdom2 2 жыл бұрын
So then, i.e. lighter guitars are necessarily better guitars. It s a tradeoff?
@m7alan7johnson7
@m7alan7johnson7 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect! You made a great point. The difference between bridge picking and neck picking has tons more of a difference than heavier guitars. I own a mahogany S series Ibanez. The lightest, I think, of all Ibanezes. I love the weight and the tone. Been defending my choice for years. Thanks!
@pisaitsun
@pisaitsun 5 жыл бұрын
Good explaination.. thanks
@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, she's not dead yet!! Take a listen to the guitar put back "together" on my Instagram!! instagram.com/darrellbraunguitar/
@henrikemppainen2511
@henrikemppainen2511 5 жыл бұрын
If more weight made guitars sound better, we'd be gluing blocks of lead to the body. If higher density made guitars sound better, we'd better make the body out of cast iron or steel. Plywood can get surprisingly heavy too, especially if it's made out of very thin aircraft grade sheets. If lower weight made the guitar sound better, we'd be better off dumping wood. Funny that some people don't like the sound of a metallic nut, but most everyone seems happy with metallic frets! Where are my bone frets?! I am left wanting a stainburger style guitar.
@Lantertronics
@Lantertronics 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, a lot of the discourse is contradictory. I hear people say things like "this guitar is made of a super dense wood and is really heavy, it must have great sustain" but they'll also say "this guitar is so light and resonant, it must have great sustain"
@thetonekingofficial
@thetonekingofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. BTW - is that sonar you are using?
@alexlara7287
@alexlara7287 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@ChrisTian-rm7zm
@ChrisTian-rm7zm 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think the weight of the whole instrument matters, but the density of the wood. A more dense kind of wood is probably heavier also. Like plywood compared to mahogany for example. Maybe you should compare bodys made from different kinds of wood.
@xxXthekevXxx
@xxXthekevXxx 5 жыл бұрын
I will not be happy until I hear a concrete guitar
@m7alan7johnson7
@m7alan7johnson7 5 жыл бұрын
I'm asking out of ignorance...Doesn't more dense suggest heavier? Thanx for replying.
@ChrisTian-rm7zm
@ChrisTian-rm7zm 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's what I meant. :-)
@UltraD52
@UltraD52 5 жыл бұрын
You should have left it plugged in a recorded it while cutting!
@wolfelliza7850
@wolfelliza7850 3 жыл бұрын
Need tabs
@user-fw1xu7ve2n
@user-fw1xu7ve2n 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfelliza7850 also need a cover to follow correct timing
@wolfelliza7850
@wolfelliza7850 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-fw1xu7ve2n 21/32 time signature
@user-fw1xu7ve2n
@user-fw1xu7ve2n 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfelliza7850 what was this comment about, i forgot lmaoo
@wolfelliza7850
@wolfelliza7850 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-fw1xu7ve2n That's a mystery!
@alexanderpodkopaev6691
@alexanderpodkopaev6691 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Derrel, thanks for the great video! Are you going to test other factors I've been told impact sustain, like bolted vs glued vs through neck? Special thanks for mentioned Toyota Hilux, used to own 15yrs old one...solid as a rock
@sergel.120
@sergel.120 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting dude!
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