Do Humbucker Magnets Make A Difference

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Do Humbucker Magnets Make A Difference/ In this video we do a demo of Alnico 2, Alnico 5, and Alnico 8 Magnets, And we Release The New DylanTalksTone Thruxton Humbucker
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@vinniesworld459 Жыл бұрын

Just for ease of comparison: 3:02 Alnico 2 Bridge 3:33 Alnico 5 Bridge 4:04 Alnico 8 Bridge 4:39 Alnico 2 Neck 5:04 Alnico 5 Neck 5:49 Alnico 8 Neck

@robjgolde3221 Жыл бұрын

A2 bridge & A5 neck were the clear winners here. Bright and balanced with a smoother attack in the bridge, and clear/full in the neck.

@robmcnamara2381 Жыл бұрын

My preference as well. Did not like the A8 neck, but all the others sounded good. Whereas the A2 bridge and A5 neck sounded great

@otaviosmartins1 Жыл бұрын

Well, one of the most successful PAF set today (Lollar Imperials) are the exact opposite.

@liontribegc Жыл бұрын

Congrats on a new pup! Sounds great! Thanks for explaining... Rock on! 🤟😺🤟

@fuzzy734 Жыл бұрын

i was always curious about the possible change in sound, tone and response between the different types of magnets. a real ear opener, thanks!

@J0HN01DATA Жыл бұрын

Way to be Dylan, that was really cool to hear. I always wondered that question myself, thank you for that video. It was 5s in the neck and 2s in the bridge for me. Congrats on the new design. Cheers

@rusty6314 Жыл бұрын

Sounding good Dylan keep creating new pickups for us.

@teye-master Жыл бұрын

1) Great video, Dylan, as always really! 2) I just did exactly this with a bunch of different pups that I mounted on 'sleds' to use in my 1981 see-thru 'Dan Armstrong' guitar (that my father and I made) that has that interchangeable pickup scoop swoop). This was specifically for a pickup-brand-shootout, and it worked great! 3) One of my favorite bridge pups has been the Gibson 'Super Humbucker' (I believe developed for Gibson by Bill Lawrence) whick I think was a ceramic magnet pup. Why no ceramics in this test? Please keep these fantastic vids coming!!!

@jeremycraft8452 Жыл бұрын

That's a great-sounding A2 pickup, particularly in the bridge. The string separation is outstanding. The A5 was my favorite in the neck. The extra magnetic flux helped keep it crispy. I would have thought the A5 bridge/A2 neck would be ideal, but I guess not.

@stanburtt Жыл бұрын

Great comparison , love these types of vids. Your A2 sounds great

@billsguitargarage Жыл бұрын

Nice comparison. Hearing them back to back you can notice a difference for sure. The 2s sounded killer.

@petew.1418 Жыл бұрын

A long time ago, I discovered, (by comparing different guitars, then changing the pickups on one guitar), that I actually prefer a higher output pick up in the neck, and the opposite in bridge. I know, it's personal preference, but it's what works for me. Great video!

@timothypotter2137 Жыл бұрын

Love the name, and I actually liked the sound of the A-2 pick ups better. You done good!

@joeyskar Жыл бұрын

I feel like the 2 sounded really sweet allowing us to hear the strings as they are whereas the 5 sounded like it had a little more breakup and the 8 sounded like it'd be great for metal maximizing signal. I've always been a fan of lower output pickups for their clarity and how they play with OD pedals and drive on amps.

@qua7771 7 ай бұрын

Normally, you would adjust the pickup height differently for the best sound in each type. That makes for a slippery slope in doing a "fair" comparison. Weaker magnets like more height. Stronger ones have a wider usable range in distance. A3's are picky about height. Another challenge here is that pickups may be wound with a magnet type in mind, so any particular magnet might not be well suited to a given pickup.

@stevelaferney3579 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations the Thruxton is a hit! Sounds most excellent sir. Oh so nice. That’s why I prefer A-II magnets in general. So much tone.

@cchavez248 Жыл бұрын

Well, this showed me that Alnico8's are more musical and versatile than I thought they would be!

@mxrocketbeats Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! ive been wondering about alnico 8s

@vanshankguitars Жыл бұрын

The new pickup sounds great!

@ranchoricardo Жыл бұрын

Great sounding A2, Dylan -- it was definitely my favorite in the bridge position. Enlightening comparison of the different magnets as well. I wonder what a ceramic magnet would have sounded like next to the alnicos? Cheers!

@zarlodious1 Жыл бұрын

me 3

@sampjm1898 Жыл бұрын

Ceramic will sound "brighter" because it will not generate Eddy current which results a higher Q

@givm2 Жыл бұрын

Very COOL Dylan!!

@plexibreath Жыл бұрын

8.5K is the sweet spot for my favorite sounding bridge humbuckers, congrats on the release of this one, I hope you sell a lot of them. Do you find that there is an ideal winding count related to what number of alnico is used? Do you like to charge magnets fully, or partially? And does a weakly charged alnico V if charged to the same strength as a fully charged alnico II still sound different?

@macsarcule Жыл бұрын

When you started and were playing that A2 I was like, that is one sweet mf pickup. I love lower output pickups. I was so excited to hear then you decided to sell them! ✌️😌🎸

@chrisvanover-1125 10 ай бұрын

The Thruxton Aii sounded great with the amp pushed. Buttery and warm.

@grene1955 Жыл бұрын

Of course, all this is subjective, and changes depending on the style of music you're into... for me and me preferred style, the A5 was a clear winner. I hardly ever use the bridge pup, always either the neck or middle position. But that said, this was a highly informative video, so thanks!

@embreesmith7613 Жыл бұрын

Thanks. 😊

@jacknorton3771 Жыл бұрын

The A2 bridge and A5 would have been a sweet set up in the tele deluxe I just built.

@DavidTobyTraylor Жыл бұрын

Sounds great! I have one in my cart. One question/assumption; 14k? Apologies if I missed it on the video of your website! Never mind 😬 just saw it on the website. Only one cup of coffee so far!

@voodoocustompickups2547 Жыл бұрын

My customers really like the Alnico 4, Alnico 6 and Alnico 9. Alnico 6 has interesting properties as does the 9 but they aren't easy to come by, for me anyway.

@jerrybeilgard5824 Жыл бұрын

I like that Jazzy Alnico 2 in the Neck.

@SpartacusPlanktonpants Жыл бұрын

That new pick up sounds really nice! Cool name as well, Thruxton Circuit is about 6 miles from my house :-p

@stevescheller4854 Жыл бұрын

Alnico 2 is the winner for me in both positions. Same when I have done my own tests.

@picksalot1 Жыл бұрын

Congrats! The Thruxton Pickup sounds very good. Have you considered making any your Humbucker Pickups in a stacked Single Coil size for those players who prefer a smaller footprint?

@DylanTalksTone Жыл бұрын

I will not… because it won’t sound the same

@PhilipPeterson-vs9oc 9 ай бұрын

Hi, great video :-), I was wondering what effect double thickness magnets would have in a standard humbucker as opposed to a Filtertron pickup, many thanks.

@markgallemore8856 Жыл бұрын

I really Like The Tone, quality of the ALNICO TWO 👍🏻👍🏻

@natashanyxx9486 Жыл бұрын

Sounds great!

@mistergoat7357 Жыл бұрын

Sounds good man

@louaguado995 2 ай бұрын

I loved the A2 clean in the neck position. My biggest issue with neck pickups is they're too muddy, I often rewire them from series to parallel to brighten them up. But I never considered swapping the magnets 😏

@Earlvis 8 күн бұрын

Try an A3 in the neck-Mud gone

@ravenslaves Жыл бұрын

That sounds really sweet.

@Hikaru109Ichijyo Жыл бұрын

i learned A8 isn't only for metal but can be anything you want it to be. A2 and A5's def for that vintagey thang . . . those thruxtons sound great

@autodidacticprofessor869 6 ай бұрын

I've become a fan of Alnico 4. It kinda solves the "problems" you find with most magnets. Is the pickup too bassy with A5? A4. Is it too spongy on the low end and needs more clarity on the top with A2? A4. Mids too harsh? A4. Not enough mids? A4. lol

@timothypotter2133 Жыл бұрын

Love it!

@frankhunt2800 Жыл бұрын

Those humbuckers sound great

@currituck Жыл бұрын

I wish you would have compared a ceramic pickup as well. I'm getting your 8 Ball pickup in my custom 1 hum Texas Toast guitar.

@ariesatrio3119 Жыл бұрын

I just played around a bit with my Floyd rose I had just received, and when I made contact with it and unboxed my EVH Frankenstrat pickup and when I hovered it over the pickup the pickup attached to the Floyd rose? Has my pickup lost polarity or magnetism?

@iridios6127 Жыл бұрын

It is very difficult to understand what you wrote. But the most likely answer is - no. To be completely sure, touch some kind of piece of iron on the pole pieces, if they stick, then everything is ok.

@arkaitzcarrasco2216 Жыл бұрын

So if I understand well... you charge the magnets to its's full potential and you didn't normalize the audio files after all? got it right?.... If thats the case, it's really impressive how the A2 sounds even louder than the A5 and the A8. And fuller over the frequency spectrum like a lingle coil-ish. really cool video 👏👏👏

@devilsguitaristmusic Жыл бұрын

I'm very interested in A4 pickups, from what I've heard they're like a cross between an A2 and an A5 and that sounds exactly like what I would like. I'm somewhat interested in A3 but I heard they're even "softer" than A2, so I'm not sure about them, I would really have to try them and see.

@Nowherechente Жыл бұрын

Hi man, I love your videos. Can you make a video about humbucker sized filtertrons? (e.g. Psyclone HB by SD or the Lollartron HB sized). Greetings from Chile man!!!

@wriglarzzz Жыл бұрын

Always liked a2 pickups the best, and I can't be too far off because it's Slash's go to magnet

@flatroc1 Жыл бұрын

Agree. A2 bridge and A5 neck. 👍

@brotherhawk3228 6 ай бұрын

What kind of bike to you ride ?

@leftyo9589 Жыл бұрын

in the bridge, the alnico 8 hands down winner for me. in the neck they are all okay with the 5 having a slight advantage over the 2, and the 8 having an ever so slight advantage over the 5. i would suspect someone who prefers a single coil sound would prefer the alnico 2. its all subjective.

@domoniquebrooks816 Жыл бұрын

No Ceramic? People always say they make a pickup harsh/ice-picky, but I've never had that experience. I swapped a Ceramic into my bridge humbucker that had an A5 and I liked it. While it made it a bit brighter, It wasn't harsh, but it pushed the front end of my amp a bit harder which eliminated my need for a boost pedal.

@theAxehound Жыл бұрын

I'm fine with A-II recording, but prefer A-V live to cut through the mix, never can cut through with II's. Came to check out the A-8. I bought one, but can't decide if I want to stick it in a Strat bridge, or SG bridge(?)

@jimmyjames2022 Жыл бұрын

In this comparison I prefer Al2 in a bridge and Al5s in neck, but Thruxton sounds awesome in both positions. Al8 seems good in the neck too.

@fattohead Жыл бұрын

Guys, I want to swap my Jb JR's polehead screws with gold ones just for aesthetics. I searched all the web but couldn't find. Can someone here help me if anybody here knows where can I find polepiece screws of Jb JR or Lil' 59 ?

@timothypotter2137 Жыл бұрын

We need to talk about those pickups...

@acexxxoasis Жыл бұрын

Thruxton sounds amazing! This video again brings up the question in my head what a neodymium magnet would sound like in a pickup compared to our regular alnico and ceramic magnets, also are there different ceramic grades like alnicos? Or is it whatever you gauss it to?

@clockwork914 Жыл бұрын

Identically repeating tracks, that way people can have a chance at hearing the difference. If I drink my Coke regular but then shake up my Pepsi can, that’s no comparison.

@Addahasan Жыл бұрын

Holy smokes that Alnico 2 Rocks hard

@gregsguitartone Жыл бұрын

A5 is my favorite.

@kaeljoe 3 ай бұрын

I liked the A2 on that guitar

@roberthastings708 7 ай бұрын

Rewatching. Sucking action. I like it. Great video! Thank you.

@LilOlFunnyBoy 2 ай бұрын

This video kinda asks more questions than it answers... The stronger magnets clearly sound thicker and hit the amp harder, but what if you dialed down the input gain on the amp? Would you get a similar sound or would each magnet still have its own character? Or, what if you adjusted the other parameters of the pickup to get similar outputs from each? would they sound different again? Would that be different to adjusting the amp gain to compensate? Do they each feel different to play? Fwiw I think I preferred the sound of the A2 in this test - clearer than the others, no muddy mids.

@jeshely Жыл бұрын

With that particular pickup, A5 for me on both positions.

@tonehouseguitars Жыл бұрын

Those sound great 😶‍🌫️

@mionapinyon6098 Жыл бұрын

I had thought A3 was the weakest. You stated order of strength was 2, 3 ,5 etc. Is it not 3,2,4 ,5 etc?

@markpell8979 Жыл бұрын

The 2 & 5 sounded almost the same in the bridge, maybe the 5 was a bit more upper-middley. The 8 in the neck sounded great, almost like a paf or burst bucker in the bridge position. First impressions, subjective, listening over phone speaker. But that 8 in the bridge position, I'd play that almost all the time.

@waynegram8907 Жыл бұрын

Dylan, it would be nice if you had a chalkboard to show what you mean by how the various magnetic types are compressing certain frequencies because I don't know what you mean by your compression theory

@deanallen927 9 ай бұрын

The 2 sounded the brightest to me which I wasn't expecting. I expected a ceramic tone from the 8 but it almost muddy.

@Uncle_Gray 10 ай бұрын

There are different genres of music That's why all those magnets exist

@MrDrTheJniac Жыл бұрын

So the stronger magnet produces a stronger signal, but essentially identical tonality. Not surprising, but nice to see it tested. I imagine that the winding is the big decider of tonality in a pickup.

@tonytribble2977 Жыл бұрын

SD’s Original Seth Lovers A-2 , #1 !

@void_snw 10 ай бұрын

Feels like exactly because the amp breaks up this comparison is a bit.. redundant? The difference in volume going into the amp makes any other difference impossible to make out since it could just be the amps breakup character.

@peterknicked Жыл бұрын

The Alnico 2 was less output and brighter. Sounded good. The Alnico 5 was less bright. Sounded good as well. The Alnico 8 was hotter and had a little of the Alnico 2 brightness.

@ianskelding5827 Жыл бұрын

I preferred the A2 and A5 sound

@danardalin Жыл бұрын

Hell yes! Somnium! They're like 5 miles from my house.

@ariesatrio3119 Жыл бұрын

Also, could you please do a video talking about the difference between a mounting ring, and a directly mounted humbucker pickup?

@asdaven1 Жыл бұрын

I prefer Alnico 5 in most pickups humbucking or single coil. Just seems consistently most pleasing to my ears. Alnico 2 would be second but I still prefer Alnico 5 in most circumstances. It has a clearness about it and good articulation. Dont care for other magnets other than Alnico 2 and 5. Alnico 8 is too much. Alnico 5 strikes the best overall balance.

@216trixie Жыл бұрын

The different madness yes well make the amp react differently. But not so much difference in tone. It's gain and push and pull with the amp.

@ivanriverajr5012 5 ай бұрын

Why not alnico 3 like the custombuckers gibson makes?

@embreesmith7613 Жыл бұрын

Where do we my Larry DiMarzio SD fit on here? They are ,50 years old

@beyondthedead7677 Жыл бұрын

They don't. SDs use ceramic magnets, not alnico, though EVH supposedly swapped in A5 magnets

@ofershragay Жыл бұрын

For me - Alnico 5 both

@brotherhawk3228 6 ай бұрын

So the wood used for the body of guitar doesn't really matter ?

@johnp6269 Жыл бұрын

The a2 sounds best I closed my eyes and just listened only opened when I thought wowy and every single time it happened to be the a2!!! At least to my ears anyhow!!!

@johnp6269 Жыл бұрын

It's weird on closed eye test my ears favor a ceramic magnet over alnico almost always same with speakers.

@Gearhart_Music Жыл бұрын

The differences are subtle. Especially on the Neck. 2 seems a bit brighter, 5 darker, 8 about the same as 5 but punchier and a touch more low mids. At least that's what my ears are picking up.

@Clockeman Жыл бұрын

So I assume you magnetized these to their full potential. What happens if you magnetize them all to the same level...

@bobelkiniii1461 Жыл бұрын

A8 bridge A5 neck

@bapt_andthebasses 28 күн бұрын

Please demo with CLEAN sound/ DI sound...

@DylanTalksTone 28 күн бұрын

That doesn’t illustrate what I am trying to show …. All you “clean demo” people crack me up

@RideAcrossTheRiver 5 ай бұрын

Tonemetals!

@paulneeds Жыл бұрын

There’s a… ‘sweetness’ in the A2 that is definitely there but different in the A5. The A8 is too ‘brutal’ for me I’m afraid… It does confirm what I was thinking about putting in my current build, which will now definitely be a pair of A2s! Good to see your new A2 ‘Thruxton’! Food for thought indeed.

@JosePineda-jn8jk Жыл бұрын

Someone get Glenn Fricker in here to throw in his opinion 🤣 💀 but seriously the Alnico 2 in the bridge is what I think I will get for the sound I want.

@adambilge2834 Жыл бұрын

A2 sounds great, A5 sounds great, A8 = mud.

@angryroostercreations5194 Жыл бұрын

The A2 had better clarity than the others. The A8 was crunchy and tight. The A5 was in between having more crunchy than the A2 but lacking the tightness of the A8 it was a bit more fuzzy/ruff around the edges to my ears. I'm generally more of a single coil guy. I've never played an A8 bucker, but out of the pickups i have played, when using a full size humbucker i prefer a moderate output pickup with A2 magnet. I'd be interested to here how the A8 does under high gain. I guess it depends on how hot the coils are wound, but to my ears a lot of hot pickups tend to get muddy when they go into a high gain amp. I feel like the A5 in this video might end up in that camp. Non of them sounded bad. but my preference would be the A2. You can make a clean pickup dirty, but you can't make a dirty pickup clean.

@nbs-spike5822 Жыл бұрын

With headphones, I heard absolutely no difference. I have no clue how you heard what you explained. They all sounded great, but no different. I'm starting to think Glenn is right. Not enough difference to make a difference.

@216trixie Жыл бұрын

I'm starting to agree. Single coil or double coil makes a difference. And after that I think a good well made quality pickup will sound better with more tone than a lot of cheap poorly made pickups. After that, these differences are so tiny I don't know that they make much of any difference. Definitely not as much as the speaker.

@johnfisher2206 Жыл бұрын

Cant tell any difference in tone other than the compression...

@valueofnothing2487 Жыл бұрын

I can't hear much of a difference and certainly am not playing like you are so I'm not sure why you aren't explaining how it sounds and plays differently. It takes a long time to search the internet to find frequency response graphs to actually tell us exactly how changing the magnetic field changes the frequency response. I think you probably know exactly how it changes but for some reason you will not tell us and you won't show us these graphs that you probably have somewhere stuffed away somewhere. It's always frustrating listening to your videos because you think "he's actually going to show us something, he's actually going to teach you something like you used to". And instead, it's always another sales pitch.