Most surprising that is made not only for forest but for desert... We don't have deserts... Sure small group goes on deployment, but that small group.

I served in 2011-2014 and was issued with old forest pattern uniform(M05). Which worked very well during summer month (and in nighttime :)) in dense forest areas (mostly conifers) but in open fields or meadows the uniform was very noticeable. I was surprised how well French uniform pattern blends in Lithuania's environment. I guest there is no such think as really universal pattern

The reason why the LŠS (rifelman) dont use Lithuanian armed forces camo's is beacause the rifleman buy uniforms and gear themselves and the reason why its applied to most (not all) rifeman is because it's the most commercial and easy to purchase.

LT Riflemen's Union chose woodland in the early 1990s when it was restored. We are not military, so we can't wear official patented country military camos. Members are buying the equipment themselves, so either woodland or multicam are available for us. Some of us choose to wear woodland for parades and other official business and use multicam for exercises. Generally m81 woodland works much better in wooded areas, it is still one of the best camo patterns that exist. Anyway, since riflemen are supplying themselves, every riflemen usually wears a mix of woodland, multicam, Brittish MTP, etc.

I've been part of the LŠS (lithuanian riflemens union) for 6 years now, we use the old american camo due to it being a widelly available camo for civilian use. What that means is sure you can buy the new lithuanian camo, but if it isnt accepted for civilian use then you can get sued or even arrested for it. The woodland camo is the only widely available civilian camo so we just use that

New cammo pattern and colors would work just great 8 out of 12 months a year. Plus a year round in urban settings.

When I was serving in Lithiuanian armed forces. m05 "misko" or as we call them "eglute" (evergreen tree) was standard issue. It's really good for operating in Lithuanian forests. When I joined US army I got most of my gear in OCP multicam pattern. It works in wider range of environment but not as good for one specific environment as the old M05 was.

I wore British DPM for 20 years. Multicam replaced it. DPM was far more effective in European woodland. Multicam is too light, so l understand why some do not like it. I still wear DPM for hunting. Germans and Swedes seem happier with darker patterns.

Yes, old uniforms better. My fav camouflages: M05 forest (old Lithuanian camo), Flecktarn, CADPAT, Woodland, EMR.

Camoflage is something very important for a soldier because it is his first line of defence. You can only shoot what you can see. Therefore i think some crititique on this camoflage is acaptable because it is more suited for rapid deployment forces which work worldwide than homeland defence. I think modern woodland camoflages like Wasp II would be perfect for the very green enviroment of the baltics.

The Best Camouflage in my opinion in Europe right now is SLOCAM it comes from Slovenia. It's like MTP but greener designed for a more general European setting. I personally own it and love it.

I've been seeing more Riflemen from the LŠS using French CCE woodland. It's a bit more faded than the M81 style that is used by many, and it seems to blend in much better to the environment. It even appears to work pretty good in some situations where the newer camo may excel in (but obviously the new camo will not be good in darker, greener situations).

The 🇬🇧 army had a very similar experience of trying for a single universal pattern to save costs and simplify logistics. It worked about as well as all the others.

the issue with the current issue uniforms is the same issue the americans have with their's - camo that fits NOWHERE except well with an old couch. Only good concealment it does is in a dry/yellowing grass, which is not all that common of an enviorment

The Lithuanian Riflemen Union uses 3 patterns: m81 Woodland, a newer variant of the m81 which seems to be more faded or blander (I don't really know how to put it), and then the universal pattern of the land forces which is used by certain members who are of the "active" branch meaning they are also involved with the military to some extent (active or reserve). I don't think the LRU will replace the m81 as it is sort of like a recognition symbol of the riflemen meaning when people see the woodland camo they immediately think of them. Although I like woodland I would much prefer for missions and hikes that we used flecktarn as from my experience it is way better suited for rural and wooded environments and leave woodland for ceremonies. But of course that is only me and my opinion.

I'm curious as to why the new uniform camo is lighter but all other gear is a dark (OD?) green? Stuff like vests, helmet covers, jackets, etc. There's a bit contrast between both.

i prefer the old one. Why? Because big part of Lithuania are forests and the camouflage is perfect for that. And to be honest the new ones is looking like we are gonna fight somewhere in the desert.

Everyone is talking that new uniform is not good as the old one, but all they can think about is the battle in the forests and forgetting that real wars are fought over cities.

the issue wit the washing can be simple... wrong colour of the base fabric... so if you pring it on sand colour few washes is basically faded into sandy pattern... but if you print it on something like tan colour (darker fabric) this iissue is not as prevelent ;) the fabric gets brushed and rubbed and gets fluffy which comes out through the colours... ill send the check to the R&D in priv ;)

New Latvian camo is awesome. And so is Czech and Polish one.

Thanks for interesting videos. I have no issue with washing this new pattern camouflage. Don’t wash it into very hot water and colours will last long. Material is durable. But I am not happy with this Bright camouflage. I do not agree that it better fits to urban environment. Every trained soldier knows that the best cover is in the dark places, next to shadow side of the wall, etc. Do you think that Bright camouflage works betters in the shadow or darkened room? It also would apply for deserts and mountains like in Afghanistan. Take cover on the shadow side. Old/Green camouflage was not good, but it was excellent in the forests or in other type of the nature; because it was dark and built up areas includes parks, grass, gardens, etc., it worked good in urban as well. Therefore I prefer old vs new. Woodland doesn’t work in the North of Europe region. It is still used in some paramilitary organizations because of mass production and consequently low cost. In general, it is commercial material, not for real service, especially for this region. I spent almost 40 years in military (paratroops and infantry) and if I had a choice, I would choose olive green. I and my colleagues have tested different patterns in different environments and the absolute winner is simple Olive Green. It fits well in the forests, because it merges with tree trunks and branches, but also it works well in the build up area inside and outside. Big mistake many people does when they compare patterns on photos. It the same places you can find several angles and backgrounds which has different brightness and colours. Photos are good if you want to persuade somebody, just take photo from the right angle. Conclusion: I vote for Olive Green, like Israel has; the Old/Green camouflage is in the second place; New/Bright is not good; Woodland is not usable in this region at all. Anyway, thanks for interesting videos. Please continue.

Why doesn't the military use multiple patterns at one time? Your uniform pattern depends on the location and mission of your unit.

Never served in the military, but I always liked Canadian green uniforms :$

I think Riflemen union simply understands that wooldland is better. Lithuania and the capital is just one big forest. The new uniform could be just an exclusion for some tasks in Vilnius or smth.

I think that the LŠS (rifleman) didn't use those new uniforms because it's another force design and that would be copying. And the woodland camo works much better in our forests and is much cheaper who buy the uniforms themselves is much cheaper.

I personally like new Finnish M05. And think it would work well in Lithuania.

NZMCU would be my favourite pattern

m81 is the goat of camos in style and practicality..well, style mostly. As for the reasons why it was picked, there is no one simple reason. Tho I have to mention that the rifleman union is not attached to a single camo. Due to differing budget between each member, members who have more money would pick a more modern and expensive equipment, which usually lacks an option in m81 woodland. So Anything from coyote, to ranger green to multicam and even the old Lithuanian military camo is used in both equipment and clothes. But usually woodland camo dominates in usage.

I think there should be a Vilnius camo design, as the possibility of impending invasion would likely not be limited to the forest environment.

Separate point; with the experiences in 🇺🇦, the transparency of the battlefield might now mean that simple coloured cloth is not able to have an impact. Now it’s about hiding heat signatures and other radiation. Has kamufliažas changed entirely?

My fav camouflages: M05 finnish, ESTDCU, MARPAT, CADPAT

Danish homeguard really want's our old M/84 uniform back, instead of the multicam we're wearing now. M/84 is much more effective at home, instead of multicam.

Honestly only thing I'd say is that parade uniforms should be as they were in the interwar period and even ranks can as from the times of the Lithuanian Wars of Independence. Much cooler than the others.

1:24 Finns call their M05 camo ''kurkkusalaatti'' which means relish or cucumber salad

I think some type of mix between CADPAT, MARPAT and WZ 93 would work great.

What you mentioned is about riflemen using woodland exactly what it is. It’s cheap and widely accesible. But that is also why I hate it. Most fishermen and mushroom pickers are wearing woodland. Also it’s close to impossible to acquire high quality materials. Personally I really don’t like the pattern, at the same time it’s still better than the new army pattern which is waaaaaay too bright. Oh and Canadian pattern (both of them) would work much better in specific conditions

Labas , i really wanna say the M05 (The old camo) i would prefer it . But the new multicam has changed it

New Lithuanian camo also lacks clear macropattern and it seems to wear out way too quickly. It's barely better than UCP imho.

Так і не зрозумів під які умови розроблений цей камуфляж. Схоже наче розроблений для гірської місцевості, але я щось не пам'ятаю щоб у Литві були гори. А на питання автора щодо улюбленого камуфляжу відповім, що це український "ХИЖАК")

I think the best camo for our army will be something similar to Ukrainian Mawka camo from velmet

Can we have Both?

Too light. New uniforms look badly faded. Must have got advice from the pentagon on how to waste millions on new uniforms that achieve nothing. In so far as the U.S.ACU uniform, now you can't even give them away.

Again - the new uniform is actually good. To the people who say "But.. it's not good at camouflage!" - i volunteered in Ukraine. Barely ANYBODY uses the camo for camouflage except snipers and spec ops guys. Most people SPECIFICALLY wear bright yellow or blue tapes for identification, making the camo - worthless. This is the same issue i have for people hating the UCP pattern when it probably saved a LOT of people from friendly fire in Iraq and Afghanistan, since most casaulties actually came from there. In a war where you'll have NATO air and artillery support - i think you WOULD want to be more easily identified. The old green camo looked too much like the Russian camo, which would cause a LOT of friendly fire incidents.

Sveikas! I love your videos and appreciate all your hard work and details regarding military topics. However in full honesty I am becoming quite bored and annoyed at the quantity of military videos being published compared to past topics. I feel it would be best for a long time viewer to have revolving topics and not one set tone for the channel. I still appreciate these military videos although I’m becoming less and less engaged because it feels to serious, intense, and sometimes boring in my personal opinion- always educational nonetheless. If you make more military videos, could you discuss the Smiltynė / Kaliningrad border. I was there on holiday and walked right up to the line you’re not supposed to cross. What happens if I do cross it? I think there is a certain amount of time before I touch Russian soil and the buffer zone is for Lithuanians to remain safe. Also while in Nida’s Death Valley, I felt like a Russian ship was following me while I was near the border the dune’s fences. Maybe that was just paranoia but still… it felt very eerie that I was the only one on the walking paths and the ship was parallel to me. Maybe this was a Lithuanian ship? Anyways… please make more content about other topics again. I really miss this about your channel. Thank you for all that you do and I hope your family is healthy, happy, and well! ❤

Just adopt two patterns

I mean if look at any war footage in Ukraine, as forests and cities are destroyed, you can see that dull colors dominates the environment, the old uniform would perform much more poorly in such enviroments. While our new uniform, would perform much better. Here's some examples from this channel: www.youtube.com/@ab3army/videos Why I mention russian-Ukrainian war? Because let's be honest, russia is the only nation which could invade us. Though I think both uniforms should be in use, because Lithuania has more forests than Ukraine.

Old one is way too dark, as as soon as you step out of the forests you stand out like a black spot, this was similar problem with Russian EMR uniform and its the reason why soldiers, if they could afford it, started privatley purchasing multicam and atacs fg camo. Also one thing to consider, after watching many ukraine war footage, the forests will get blown up to bits and then the battle field just turns into a big brown mud field so multicam works better there, especially when its wet and dirty also considering that the trench warfare is slowly coming back the multicam also works better there. Lithuanian military still in a mindset that they will operate like partisans or something but looking at current warfare development it wont be the case anymore.

Funny how the romanian camo has the same pattern but is darker

"Margutis" = Easter Egg. Name comes from word "Marginti, Marginimas".

Can someone who has treated his lithuanian wife as a queen, please tell me if they are cold? or they fit how her husband/boyfriend/partner treats them? I really wanna go lithuania and marry a woman there

I wonder if their are women in the Lithuanian military? i bet they look pretty.