Do MASSIVE Subwoofers Cause My Screen to Shake

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Every week, I get asked if having (4) 18" subwoofers behind my 150" acoustic transparent screen causes it to shake, and if so, does it effect the image quality. Get 15% off PSB’s website - bit.ly/2wIcruQ. Enter the 50,000 Subscriber Giveaway for your chance to win the Valencia Verona Theater Seat - youthmanreviews.com/giveaway/
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@curtissanjenko285 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this link Youthman, and replying to my earlier question. By the way, I love your channel, follow faithfully , and great to see someone with the passion for HT that I have. All the best, Curtis

@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Curtis. Glad to help when I can

@atorgrotto 4 жыл бұрын

Just became a patreon 120db crew, well done videos, also just finished my home theatre with a Marantz AVR with 5 channel amp with the help of your videos, made the decision a no brainer. Made my home theater come to life! Thanks for all you do Michael!

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support through Patreon! Congrats on your new upgrades. I would love to see your setup. Feel free to send them to me at michael@youthmanreviews.com to share in a future video.

@whozthisguy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Youthman. this is the answer i was kinda expecting, but good to hear from a hands on perspective!

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@newhope925 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations for hitting 50k 👏🏻👏🏻 keep up the good work and stay safe

@ExcelsiorTech 2 жыл бұрын

I like your take on this. I did a bit of installing professionally many years ago and one of my first and favorite installs was an acoustically transparent screen. All the front channels were in walls as well as an in-wall dual 8-inch sub. Another dual 8-inch sub was placed in the rear of the room. It sounded amazing and I didn’t notice picture problems. I was curious if something this size would cause a problem, thanks for answering my question. I think you’re right. It’s the same reason why if you have a projector in the back of the room you can’t tell if there’s a little imperfection in your screen as much as if you were using a short-throw projector where the light is coming up at an angle. Directly on it’s more forgiving.

@ej20wrxdex 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the 50k goal. Keep building your channel you definitely have something great going on. Would you be able to do an video about what you've done to reduce rattling and and room treatments you recommend. Thanks youthman

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dexter. I have a video on Acoustic Panels - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLFhq6SIxrvNoqs.html. I have not attempted to tame my rattles yet.

@SpecOfTech 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats again on the 50K Youthman. Your videos just keep getting better. The production quality has also really improved, it isn't going unnoticed ;P!

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Barrett. I'm always trying to push myself.

@mthemaniac 4 жыл бұрын

This answers the question I posted moments ago on another one of your videos. Thanks!

@peterotremba8980 4 жыл бұрын

WoW! 50,000, great job Youthman!

@garym1199 29 күн бұрын

Youthman, your videos are awesome & helping me on my theater build. My room & screen size is the same as yours. The back row will have a 12 to 15 inch riser. My question is what height is the bottom of your actual screen,not the border. I don’t want to get the screen too heigh or too low. Thanks for your videos.

@Bradmcdonnell 4 жыл бұрын

I have been thinking of asking the same question. Thanks for sharing 👍👍

@LifeofBliss 4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense! With my screen mounted on a wall, it does vibrate a bit as well. Only time I have noticed any sort of distortion from vibration is when it's cranked loud enough to vibrate my ceiling/projector. Image distorts a bit, but that's really only during some spirited demos haha

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Yes big bass can cause your projector to vibrate

@budgetaudiophile6048 4 жыл бұрын

Always a treat seeing these, congrats on 50K again, man! Hopefully that number continues to grow exponentially! And yes, one thing I'd remind people is you're a lot more likely to notice your projector 2cm than your screen shaking 6cm, it's all based on the impact to the image source. You're casting TO the screen, you're casting FROM the projector. Shine a flashlight on something and shake it, the amount that it's lit and the focus of the beam hardly changes, even with rather aggressive movement. Now fix the object still and go shake the flashlight.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Yes the projector moving would be a bigger issue. Fortunately mine is mounted outside my room.

@bryangibson1701 4 жыл бұрын

congrats on the 50K!!

@LoudCobra1 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Youthman Always love your vids. Stay safe

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Patrick

@myhometheater7029 4 жыл бұрын

That’s good to know. Thanks for the information brother!

@CravingTheMagic 4 жыл бұрын

Love the video man. That's a very interesting topic

@brettspicer6463 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers for that info have wondered about that myself. Cool 50k subscribers and got there before joe & shane.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly.

@hoi1340 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Youthman I have a question about what for subwoofer I should must have for my system I have 2 front speakers from dali blue 6006 6,5 inch woofers inside I have that bi amping on my onkyo tx-nr676e receiver can't Youthman help me out?

@shadab8190 4 жыл бұрын

I love how that woofer shake. Excellent video

@danielseguin913 4 жыл бұрын

Very pertinent analysis. Thanks!

@prestont447 4 жыл бұрын

I noticed that yours and most of your people that you interview have their subwoofers in the front of the theaters. Is this due to room size, or no room behind the rear seats? Or from your experience, has it been noted that there is better performance for subs being placed in the front of the room? Last question/recommendation - I am planning the purchase the Def Tech 6080 series LCR all with active subwoofers built in and I wanted two PB13s for the rear area of my theater. The question is, should I go with my thought of the PB13s in the rear or place them up front with the Def Techs? Thank you for your time and very informative videos. Respectfully, Preston

@yamafanboy 4 жыл бұрын

It's funny you did a video on this because this is exactly the question that your last video on subwoofers caused me to ask. Apart from wondering what is the electrical power delivery requirement and cable size requirements were for the electrical powering the room.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I have a dedicated 20 amp running to the theater for all of the equipment and subs. Never have tripped a breaker.

@josephsarmento6914 2 жыл бұрын

Any thoughts on a downward firing sub behind the screen like PSA TV18?

@rodneywright2577 4 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to your review of the Matin Logan 60 XTi .

@brahmeshtripathi4100 4 жыл бұрын

Can we have a comparison on how these acoustically transparent differ from those other grey and black non acoustically transparent. I hardly see those white screens in any of the other youtubers video and curious to know if we have the acoustically transparent screen on those grey and black ALR's ?

@iangreene2827 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on hitting 50k!!

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

@betitos11 4 жыл бұрын

Youthman, no matter how many times i've seen it, every time you show the speakers on your stage i gotta pause the video and stare. . .lol ; )

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@Drebo1971 3 жыл бұрын

I keep watching your videos and wondering how I can take over my whole basement as the home theater. Remove exercise equipment, the kids drum set and wife’s stuff. Then I would have the 12 foot wide screen and massive subs. But they won’t fit into the studio apartment I will move into and alimony payments after I install it all. So I will continue to watch your various videos and imagine the possibilities. Keep up the great content!

@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын

One day it will happen. Thanks for watching!

@TM-td1zh 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Youthman! Where did you get your shirt from?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

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@mattnelson1366 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! So I’m designing my theater room now. I’ve got some very large ported devastator subs, 21”. Debating on putting the subs behind the AT screen, and positioning them so the ports face off the right and left of the screen, or come out below the screen. Thoughts?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely not a bad idea. Some guys has recommended putting something in front of the PB16's when I had them to deflect the air away from the screen but I never tried it.

@droidzhunterz6861 4 жыл бұрын

I do believe its beneficial to get the subs off the floor and up at ear height, so it can kick you in the face. The room response should be better too.

@shreesaiyt 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Youthman! Would like to know how did you make the screen openable, mean which arm or hardware you used for working. Mine screen is 166" Diagonal 2.35:1 Thanks

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

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@BobbyBuckley 5 ай бұрын

Good info. Curious about a short throw projector image being destroyed byt he subs. I feel a 1/2" move (like you describe) would alter it greatly.

@Youthman 5 ай бұрын

I’m not sure. I have never tried it with a ultra short throat projector

@donthom1924 4 жыл бұрын

How come you decided to get the sealed JTR's instead of ported? Was it mainly due to screen movement? I was told ported subs hit harder. Any advice you can provide as I'm trying to decide between the ported vs. sealed subwoofers.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Ported typically provides more output but I certainly do not need any more output with (4) 18’s 😂. I get less screen movement, tons of clean output, flat down to 10Hz and the tight response you get from sealed subs. When I had the dual SVS SB16’s in for review, they did not provide enough output but that’s only two 15.5” driver’s vs (4) 18’s with much larger amps and cabinets.

@faysalusman 4 жыл бұрын

Since you used REW and calibrated your subs. Would like to know that did u move them to get the best bass response as i see space limitations behind your screen. I guess you never talked about moving your subs in your previous sub adjustment video.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

The only moving of the subs was we tried rotating them different directions and tried different distances from my front wall (not much room to adjust but a few inches). We found facing them towards the side walls provided the best frequency response. Not major, but enough to leave them facing sideways.

@muzammilwahid9317 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you youthman I was about to ask the same question and now I got it answered. Another question though among the subwoofers you've rewiewed which one you like the most, jtr psa or monolith?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

JTR and PSA have been the most impressive so far. The JTR 4000ULF is a beast and can handle really large rooms. Tony was running a pair in his massive home theater and it was incredible. My room isn't nearly as large so (4) sealed 18's provide more than enough output for my setup.

@muzammilwahid9317 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman thanks once again you're a true inspiration for all the home theater enthusiasts. Now I'll try and import a couple of jtrs once this pandemic is over. Thanks again and keep on doing the good work.👍

@SoundSpectrum 4 жыл бұрын

6 x 18" subs + Dual PB16's... yea the screen, room, seats, projector, and the kitchen above the theater room (ShAkE!!!!!) Dishes and all of the glasses. great vid!

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I have (4) 18's and have sold my PB16's. I definitely don't have that many subs lol.

@SoundSpectrum 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman but its all about that headroom! :D it really is like you said. when you have multiple subs they can perform effortlessly.

@chairman72 3 жыл бұрын

Youthman, thanks again for another informative video. I have a question for you about screen movement. How far in front of your speakers do you need to place your AT screen to avoid the subs moving the screen at all? (You stated that the small amount of movement is almost undetectable in the dark but since I am designing from the ground up I thought I could just plan for it.)

@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын

With my (4) 18’s, I could place them at the back of my room and they would still cause the screen to shake.

@chairman72 3 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Ahh well that’s a good point. Thanks.

@marcinbartosik9428 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Youthman, love your show and test of all Cinema devices. I can see that you are using hi power amps big speakers etc, I would like to ask about your power supply? What kind of cabling and breakers you use for power supply, I can imagine standard cabling will melt in wall with so much power supply.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I have a dedicated 20 amp circuit to the theater room

@marcinbartosik9428 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman And what is your total power consumption ?

@sleazypig 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 10inch sub and yeah its not as big as what you are using but the room is small I have been having issues with the furniture and other items shaking and rattling. I am making adjustments for that to reign that in and to let the new towers sing a little more on their own. I had the sub do more in the past to help the now given away r 51m bookshelves. I think my issue is bigger than yours though because my tv and audio equipment are in a glass entertainment center and that glass rattling drives me nuts. Also the boom really gets in the way of some music. Sigh the adjustments never end.

@dougg1075 3 жыл бұрын

Are those Cornwalls? Awesome stuff man.

@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. They are 1980 LaScallas

@henryrandall60 4 жыл бұрын

Hey YouthMan! Can you do a quick assist for me? I have a new Aventage 3080 receiver and 2 Klipsch R112 W subwoofers for my home theater. I want to use both of them but have been unable to do so with the WA-2 wireless subwoofer kits. Can you help? Please!!! Thanks

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Henry, I have not used the wireless kits so I am unfamiliar with the issues you might be running into. I would contact Klipsch tech support

@henryrandall60 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman thanks for your quick response

@DKLGalactus5 4 жыл бұрын

could it be that your eye balls are moving in and out at the same rate as your screen is, so you cant't tell if the screen is moving due to the fact that there moving at the same rate and distance because of the sub woofer excursion pressures. you know in and out. just asking.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Haha for sure!

@Sensi1995 4 жыл бұрын

lol

@Mark-rn6rs 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video Could you maybe talk about the image difference between a 16x9 vs 2.35. IE how does 16/9 content like ps4 games look on the 2.35? Are you using a anamorphic lens? Thank you

@paarthimei 4 жыл бұрын

Mark I’m using a 2.35:1 screen and it is really good for watching movies since there is no black bars image would be immersive for sure. But when it comes to watching series or playing games image size will be considerably small. I use to play PS4 a lot definitely I miss 16:9 screen.. it depends on your interest and use in my opinion.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, see if this video helps kzfaq.info/get/bejne/br1znpSB1sCYeIU.html I went with 2.35:1 vs 16:9 as almost all of my content is in 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 person. Let me know if that video answers your question if not I’ll see if I can make a separate video

@Mark-rn6rs 4 жыл бұрын

paarthi mei Thank you Thats what i am contemplating, i have a 16x9 now.

@Mark-rn6rs 4 жыл бұрын

Youthman Thank you I will take a look

@moveezy5591 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Youthman I got a quick question what volume do you watch your movies at and what is the db level at that volume

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Typically around -15dB

@TheFrugalAudiophile 4 жыл бұрын

Does the bass make your lens drop or does it have a break? My buddy had an Epson projector with JT Re subs and every few weeks he would have to re-vertically aligned the lens.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I have not had any issues with the projector moving as it's secured outside my room.

@TheFrugalAudiophile 4 жыл бұрын

Youthman That probably does help. I think a lot of the newer projectors come with some sort of crap they can be secured to hold the lens in place.

@drj7328 4 жыл бұрын

Even if it moves a bit....I only think it might be a problem during music output. If it shakes a little bit during bomb explosions or large thuds it might just give extra realism to the scene👍

@scott88m14 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations from England 🎉 Just wondering and apologies if this has been covered but is there a particular reason you have chosen your subs to be placed where they are?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott. Part of it is I just don’t have a lot of available space as my room is 13’ x 19’ and 4’ of the 19’ is the front cabinet. Most it’s aesthetics. It took some tweaking with MiniDSP but I now have them flat down to 10Hz. Check out this video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lcColbCQ2JramGQ.html

@scott88m14 4 жыл бұрын

That's awesome, even though I'm now going on Amazon to spend money on the mic ( your fault ) I will still say thank you. Lol Will be interesting to have a play about. Hope you, family and friends stay safe.

@ryans1986ss 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on 50k

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ryan!!

@toddroy9558 2 жыл бұрын

Youthman, what do you have your speakers sitting on so that they don’t move around or vibrate?

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

They are sitting on a wooden platform wrapped in thin carpet. They weigh over 100lbs. They aren’t moving. 😉

@meinekleineweltreise 4 жыл бұрын

As long as the projector light is more or less in front of your screen you will probably never see any differences. But if your using an UST projector it is another story! The light from „underneath“ will cause shadows and interferences when your screen is shaking. That´s why you can not buy an transparent „UST-Screen“ yet. This problem is not solved yet! (Sorry for my english!)

@jessontvarghese327 4 жыл бұрын

Hello, any chance of reviewing a pair of REL subs. I am a huge fan of svs and jtr. Just would like to know how rel sounds...

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I reached out to REL. They initially were going to send one of their subs to review but they decided REL wouldn't work well with my Klipsch LaScalas due to their 104dB sensitivity.

@jessontvarghese327 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Thank you for your reply. Really appreciate.

@ianpeck2719 4 жыл бұрын

So the screen acting as a massive sub and auto dusting at the same time?😁🙂 Maybe one day I will own some JTRs.☺️

@sofianelmoussaoui2926 4 жыл бұрын

2:01 Oh i m surprised ! It's JOE N TELL an audio reviewer on youtube. These subwoofers are very beautiful

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, Joe and I are friends and work together through Daily HiFi, along with Channa (Techno Dad) and Ron (New Record Day).

@jstearnes 4 жыл бұрын

How much weight is on your platform where your three speakers and the 2 dual 18's are sitting on?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I have almost 800lbs of speakers on the platform but it was overbuilt for that very reason. You can see build my build thread and lots of build photos at www.youthmanreviews.com/about

@erod9088 4 жыл бұрын

Just curious, what acoustic screen do you use, and can you see the pattern on it from your front row? I assume you probably sit about 11-12 feet away from the screen?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I used Seymour Center Stage XD fabric, I’m 9’ viewing distance from the front row and I am not able to see the weave from that distance. Someone with better vision might be able to.

@jayflicek2 2 жыл бұрын

You mention that you rotated your subwoofers 90 degrees so they are facing towards the outside of the wall and have been happy with performance. I currently have this setup with dual HSU VTF-15 MK2s. The subs wit between the L/C and C/R speakers (THX 6000s), facing outward towards the outside wall. I have them facing outwards not because of vibration, but because it's the only way they fit behind the screen. That said, the bass in the room is underwhelming and I always thought it was because I didn't have them firing outward. Do you have any suggestions for me? Potentially upgrading to the JTR's or maybe its simply a tuning issue - I've only ever used the Denon Audyssey correction. I know finding an ideal setup is a journey, but advice on where to go next would be greatly appreciated!

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jay the best thing you can do is to pick up a calibration microphone and use REW to measure your subwoofers to see what kind of frequency response you’re getting in your room. Buying a different subwoofer is not going to fix that if you have an issue there

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

And if you have multiple subwoofers, it might be beneficial to use a Mini DSP 2 x 4 HD to dial them in

@jayflicek2 2 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Very much appreciated. This will be my next step and report back. Thanks again.

@optimusvader7823 4 жыл бұрын

Michael , I really like what you said about the SUBWOOFERS 🔊 🔊🔊🔊: THEY KEEP YOUR SCREEN CLEAN 😁😁. Thank you for another great video . Be safe and God bless my Brother 🙋🏻‍♂️! CONGRATULATIONS ON THE 50K , we need to get to 100k .

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks OPTIMUS! Let's do this!

@optimusvader7823 4 жыл бұрын

Youthman you welcome Brother. yes 🙋🏻‍♂️🔊🔊.

@cpufrost 4 жыл бұрын

I'll have to try this "bass drop" in our main listening room with EAW KF810P line arrays and dual Danley TH221 subs powered by Powersoft K20s (60kW limited to 30kW due to service constraints). The opening scene in the movie "Lucy" pounds so hard that text on the screen looks like rippling water and that's due to eyeball movement. It's also impossible to swallow when this happens. FOH SPL at 23Hz is 146dB! :-)

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, Danley subs are the real deal. I have always been impressed with their output. If I remember correctly, they don't dig very deep though.

@cpufrost 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Yes for most (pro) stuff the cutoff is typically 30Hz for live performances. TH221 is a different beast and designed for theater and impact. Outside response (no room gain) it starts falling off below 20Hz. With room gain a pair is quite usable to 15Hz and lower. Even 20dB down from 147 is 127dB (13Hz) and is still quite usable in the room which is about 1900 square feet. One of these boxes can cover six times that. At 30Hz it's so strong that it really torques your body, joints, and becomes painful. A wooden framed house is a no no with this. Outdoor testing was fun, we had two coupled and pointed at a tree line over 100 yards distant and set the amps to about -5dB and hit the bass kick drum on my Octapad which has a sharp midbass snap with a nice 28Hz undertone. It was about an hour after a thunderstorm rolled through and everything was wet. It sounded like it was raining again because the wavefront shook all that water off the leaves! That was cool! Testing subs outside is cool, if you have the space (or neighbors that don't give a shit!) try it! Bass echos from buildings blocks away sound amazing. At 60Hz it sounds like a power station blowing up in the distance.

@pt9366 3 жыл бұрын

One of my worries as well good to know it’s not a factor.

@Antimonkat 4 жыл бұрын

Hey isn't that Joe n'Tell wearing the headphones in the PSB spot?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, PSB provided our Daily HiFi folks with a discount code.

@lardrell 4 жыл бұрын

how did you go about selling your pb16 i would like to sell mines

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I made a comment on one of my videos saying after we get past COVID-19, I would be listing them locally. A guy that was local saw it and reached out to me. I would list them on Craigslist, Offer Up, Let Go and Facebook Marketplace.

@Sensi1995 4 жыл бұрын

Of course the room shakes you have amazing subs and lets not forget a MINIDSP!

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

True. But I continually get asked that question lol

@rainman3269 4 жыл бұрын

Well done brother .... Stay safe

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@toddregister6621 3 жыл бұрын

My subwoofers (esp in movies) set off the alarm system's tamper detection. Guess it's vibrating the control panel too much.

@marcosvictor4935 4 жыл бұрын

Optically speaking, that's probably not a problem because you have a conventional Projector put far away from the screen and the depht of field is clearly bigger than how much your screen is moving. IF you had a short-throw proejctor that would certainly be a problem, because the depht of field from those lens are veeeery narrow, because of the close focusing distance, so you need to be very precise with the focus and any movement will screw that up, that's very clear when you try to project into a wall with a shor throw projector, often times the image will not be enterelly in focos because the wall isn't perfectly straight, and that small amount of warping in the wall is enough to cause that.

@treyhorn5645 4 жыл бұрын

❤️.... I'm shaking just looking at it... Lol... I've never even heard a home theater of any type. I'm scared , I hide in my 2ch music... This year , I'm gonna have to run down the road and come see you... I'd love for you to show me... Have a blessed week.❤️✌️

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thx Trey. Check your Facebook.

@alex82psr9000 4 жыл бұрын

Next video i want you to buy stein music loudspeaker top xl with subs...

@brng1755 4 жыл бұрын

Does it make a big difference when using an AT Screen vs one which isn't AT?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Probably not. There isn’t that much air going through the screen

@brng1755 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Thanks but I would like to know if it makes a big difference when you put a non AT screen in front of speakers from a audioquality prospectiv or if it is just quieter. I want to have a rolldown 120" screen but I can only find AT transparent material but no finished product.

@fierychilipeppers494 4 жыл бұрын

Ever thought about subwoofer coupling? What are your thoughts for more output?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I have ZERO need for more output that I am getting right now. Literally, zero.

@fierychilipeppers494 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman how about coupling in general? Maybe a video on that?

@MT_53 4 жыл бұрын

Michael, you mentioned you turned your subs 90 degrees...I wasn't sure if you meant you turned them so that the woofers were facing each other (away from the side walls) or were now turned and facing the side walls. Please help me grasp this?? :)

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Both subs are turned facing away from each other so they are each facing the side walls. It wasn't significant improvement but it was enough to be willing to leave them that way.

@kevinholdner5702 4 жыл бұрын

That's interesting re the 90 degree turn. I presently just have 2 12" sealed Paradigm subs (still can't believe I only have 12's) but I was messing around tonight and also noticed a 4 dB increase with them turned facing the sides vs facing towards me. Is there any significant problem with the speaker not facing outwards towards the MLP?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

No because bass frequencies are Omni directional unlike midrange and high frequencies. Think about subwoofers in car setups. Very few are facing towards the front of the car. Sometimes they face the rear of the car, sometimes facing up towards the roof while other systems have them facing each other.

@kevinholdner5702 4 жыл бұрын

Yes I realize that re Omni directional... Was more wondering about the tactile feel of LFE effects. I know just having 12"s I'm limited but don't want to minimize it.

@kzantal 4 жыл бұрын

I distinctly remember you posting a video about how your screen did not move due to the subwoofers. You showed it up close. Am I losing my mind lol?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Martin, you are correct. I made this video when I had the RSW-15's - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNp8qpySlsvdZqc.html but for that video, you will notice in the demo, the lights were turned off. I didn't think back then to see if I could see it with the lights on since I do not watch movies with the lights on. The PB16's would actually cause waves in the screen with the lights on LOL.

@2easy518 4 жыл бұрын

Hey what happens ur svs 16 ultra sub🤓 n u should give us a example how ur system sound like really heard ur theater n action that will be nice

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I sold my PB16's to upgrade to the JTR Captivator RS2's. I have several videos on my channel with audio demos.

@2easy518 4 жыл бұрын

Youthman lol i guess i miss those oops!! I will watch those 🤓 thanks, u awesome Youthman cool dude, the new subs looks a monsters love ur videos 😷😷

@sofianelmoussaoui2926 4 жыл бұрын

This type of screen probably costs a lot for big home theaters due to the fact that usually a piece of fabric in front of a tweeter attenuate or covers a little bit treble which modify the frequency response. So making a transparent sounding screen is a challenge .

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

The fabric for my Seymour screen cost $360 for 150” diagonal. Audyssey easily adjusts for the very small attenuation on the top end that the AT screen effects.

@sofianelmoussaoui2926 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman It s good surprise it s very reasonnable price for this large fabric screen. Thanks for the reply

@toddroy9558 2 жыл бұрын

How far apart are the speakers from the screen ?

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

The front of my speakers are 13 inches from the screen. You don’t want to place them to close to your screen

@TransformationalGaming 4 жыл бұрын

How much did you sale your PB16s for...

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I sold them for $3100

@TransformationalGaming 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman damn both of them? That's a good price. If I sale mine I may use this as reference

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Yessir the pair

@gibluap 4 жыл бұрын

I prefer ported subs. What says you?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I did until I went with (4) 18's. I have PLENTY of output (which you often don't get with a single or even dual sealed 15's) and the tightness and lower bass extension you typically get from sealed subs. best of both worlds for my setup.

@bingdong8571 9 ай бұрын

I wonder if that guy on avs forum with 4 si 24hs behind his screen has that problem?

@Youthman 9 ай бұрын

Likely so

@FinnishArmy 4 жыл бұрын

Your intro made my house shake and I'm only at like 40% volume. I'll send you the invoice to replace my windows.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Mission Accomplished. Download the full Bass Drop Demo from my website.

@roostermike123 3 жыл бұрын

This is interesting.

@1psxpat 4 жыл бұрын

I think next you need to upgrade is your projector to native 4K resolution. maybe upgrade it to sony or jvc.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

That’s not a bad idea...stay tuned

@saine414 4 жыл бұрын

So why have the subs behind the screen?

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Lack of floor space and I love the aesthetics of them between my speakers. They are flat in that location down to 10Hz.

@TECHNDJ 4 жыл бұрын

And ur intro Shakes my home

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Mission Accomplished!

@ThunderStruckMTB 4 жыл бұрын

If I could see it shake once, I would never be able to not see it again.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

But you literally cannot see it move unless light creates a shadow. When the lights are off, you would not be able to see it. If you are concerned, you could always get an 8” sub as they wouldn’t shake the screen at all.

@ThunderStruckMTB 4 жыл бұрын

@@Youthman Not concerned, not even for a second. My comment was poking fun at myself and my issues, but you took it wrong and went a bit snarky.... I blame COVID.

@SteveSmith-cm1hx 4 жыл бұрын

My Bass rattles the whole house! lol

@markkaupas8921 4 жыл бұрын

Youthman have you climbed a ladder and checked several areas of your ceiling by pushing up on the sheetrock to see if your ceiling is starting to pull loose. I know people will laugh but you never know until you check. Wouldn't it be something if you were watching Godzilla and when the big lizard stomps on a car part of the ceiling falls on your head.

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

I have never thought of that. Guess it couldn't hurt LOL

@AC-wl7ve 4 жыл бұрын

Dude how much is the electricity cost on watching one movie.

@dougg1075 4 жыл бұрын

Man, I dig bass as much as the next guy and have two very powerful subs but one of my issues with truly powerful subs is that even when they are dialed down properly I get bass fatigue after a long action movie. They are so powerful that even low volume it’s easy to underestimate their power . Rock on

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Doug. Have you tried using a miniDSP? You might have some peaks in your frequency response that is causing the fatigue.

@moveezy5591 3 жыл бұрын

My projector shakes anyway to stop that

@m4nc1n1 3 жыл бұрын

I want that shirt lol

@Youthman 3 жыл бұрын

Check worldwide stereos website. They sell them

@jefflangevin151 2 жыл бұрын

The answer at 3:46

@Youthman 2 жыл бұрын

That’s genius!

@victorpulos823 4 жыл бұрын

Put subs below the screen

@Youthman 4 жыл бұрын

Not enough room for them there. The cabinet was designed to have the subs directly behind the screen. I'm getting flat down to 10Hz so I'm more than happy.