In 2000 I booted my wife for being unfaithful. I spent a lot of $$ to get majority custody of our daughter. Court ordered her to pay me child support. after the 3rd payment she stopped paying. Every 8 months for *11 years* I received a letter from the idaho dhw telling me I was delinquent on my child support payments and risked losing my work licenses if I didn't pay. And every time I had to go downtown to explain that I was the recipient. Seems they just saw "delinquent" and assumed "deadbeat dad" w/o engaging a brain cell. yet there are still people out there that crave government control over all our lives. 🙄

I’m so glad you’re addressing this! I’m 63 yrs old. When I was 12 yrs old, my divorced mom moved me and my brother and sister 400 miles and 2 states away from our home town without my dad’s knowledge. There was no internet back then, dads didn’t have the rights women did, many states did not cooperate with a dad trying to find his kids, and hiring a detective was beyond his income bracket. Eleven or 12 years later, shortly after getting back in touch by mail, my dad, who was a fantastic man who loved his children and was heartbroken for years not knowing where we were, died suddenly before we could visit in person. My mother stole the best part of our lives from us because she was angry that he and his new wife gave birth to my half sister. Men and children should never have to go through this.

Ive noticed this weird trend where women who hate men never seem to hate automobiles, airplanes, electricity, air conditioning, paved roads, computers, telephones, the internet etc etc etc

I had a son in 1982 and was divorced the same year. The judge in Butler County Pa. Flat out said that “the child belongs with the mother and a father will never win a custody battle in my court” I spent nine years and $50000 in 80’s money and finally won custody from a woman that wanted to abort the pregnancy, was committed to the psychiatric ward, would show up for my “every other weekend “ visitation only to find out she had moved and would take months for the court to enforce my visitation. I jumped through every hoop and she did everything she could to sabotage me all because she found eighteen years of child support. Even to the point of claiming that I was “a poor male roll model “ because I worked construction and didn’t wear a suit and tie!

When she talked about "mate poaching" about the halfway mark...reminded me of that Chris Rock joke where guys, when they see their bro's girl they go "I need a woman like her!" Women, on the otherhand, will look at a woman's man and think "I need to get HIM."

I had a "friend" who straight up told me that she loved seeing my husband play with the kids and help around the house because hers never did either of those, so it was refreshing to know there were still men out there who could step up and do that. And then in passing, she said, "That's the most attractive thing a man can do." Cut to a few months later, I found out she'd been trying to flirt with him and get him alone and crap like that. Needless to say, we're not friends anymore. But now I have a term for what she was doing--mate poaching! Smh disgusting

If a man displays masculine traits, it’s labeled as toxic and hostile towards women. If a woman displays those exact same traits, it’s considered empowering and strong. I guess this is the “equality” I keep hearing about from women.

A pregnant woman is hit by a car.... She is sent into a coma for 1 year. She wakes up, no longer pregnant, screaming," Doctor! Doctor! Where is my baby?" The doctor replies, "Calm down, your babies are fine. You had twins! a girl and a boy. We gave them to your brother to watch while you were in the hospital." She says,"My brother? That guy is a moron! Why would you do that?" "I am sorry ma'am, we had no choice. There was nobody else. He even took the liberty of naming them." "What?"she says. "What did he name my daughter?" "He named her 'Denise,' " says the doctor. "Oh, well, that's not so bad. What did he name my son?" To which the doctor replies, "He named him 'Denephew' "

Virginia State dad here..... The "every other weekend because mom's get the child by default", is STILL very much practiced in my area. The judge (a modern feminist) didn't listen to anything me or my attorney had to say from the start. She took the lies from my cheating ex, put me -$4,500 in child support instantly, and I got every other weekend and split holidays with my son. It took me 2 different attorneys and 5 years of fighting in court to get my son any extra time (a whole 1-1/2 extra days a week) and reduced the child support (down from $500 a week, based from my lying ex but that's a story in itself). I watched this judge go from barely acknowledging my 1st attorney and myself (1st attorney was male and she apparently hated him) but changed completely when I hired a female attorney. The judge's interactions with my female attorney in the court room , made it all sink in like a ton of bricks. My son is 16 now and 80% of his life (I've never lived more than 30 minutes away from him) I've not been there because of this jackass judge's first ruling.... These judges in my area, look at the fathers like they are paychecks to the state: change my mind.

One small point, this lady is not your average street level woman - she is far more considerate and thoughtful than the vast majority.

Bring back shame and morals and hold them accountable to the same standards as men !!!!

Years ago I heard about a judge who ordered that the kids lived in one house and the parents shared custody each staying in that house every other week. It gave the kids better stability.

I am a son who only got to see my dad every other weekend since 2. I do not have a strong relationship with any of my family, but am at least on good terms with most. As I got a little older I was allowed to stay with my dad over the summers and for quite a few holidays. I consider myself lucky in the fact that even though my parents were divorced, they maintained an amicable relationship and treated each other with respect. Without that, I could imagine that my stoic relationship with my family would much worse. Both remarried and I have good relationships with them as well, though my step-dad only warmed up to me more once I moved out and showed that I could support myself.... I am a father of two myself still happily married. my wife also grew up in a divorced household and we both swore to not put our children through what we experienced. Happy Fathers Day to all the deserving dads out there!

Nothing bothers me more, being in mom groups, than women complaining about their man to random women on the internet, assuming they have bad intent. Then, if you’re the one woman who gives real advice and criticize the woman’s behavior, you get dog piled and called all sorts of horrible names.

Children should never be put in the middle.

I was with my mother shortly after my parents split. The courts placed us with her because of the 'mother knows best' attitude. Both sisters and I were abused in various ways. Those early years has caused me to have considerable issues even now, 20+ years later. And during this time, my Dad was paying every dollar properly, every other weekend visitations, and not one time did he negatively speak about my mother or yell at her in front of us, or within earshot. I would like to thank you both for this talk, it has given me quite a woderful peace. Both of you, keep up the good work!

I love men, but my husband in particular. He’s loyal, generous and kind. We are here to serve each other. That is love.

It brings me full circle with my life experience. Raised to be a 'good man' to be told it wasn't good anymore, tried to reconcile too many extremes to realize that I needed to just ground myself in what I knew and felt was right and just, and send the rest of it to the bin. Moment I did that I started to find success because I was being myself and not what other people told me I should be. Feel like Social media glorifies and amplifies the extremes of both sides to their own ends, leaving everything in the middle forgotten.

As a guy living in a blue state, nothing you said is actually helpful to men struggling. I'm not trying to be a dick but you can't be a good man when every woman around you automatically thinks you're evil. End of story. I had a woman interested in me (old friend from high school), gassing me up and encouraging me to be the best version of myself. every single person noticed the change and asked "what happened?" I just told them "it's amazing how little it takes to bring out the best in a man. Just a little bit of encouragement goes a long way." They didn't get it. They asked "why would we encourage men? They're just out to hurt us."

I'm hyped for this episode as a fan of both Nick and Dadvocate.

The crossover I never knew I always needed.

I have been doing the "sink cup" for 45 years. Along with the sink spoon (that I just used to stir the creamer into my coffee), and the sink knife, the sink spoon, the sink fork, the sink tongs, the sink mug (next to the sink cup), and much much more! I never knew "why" I did that until I heard Lauren talking about it on her channel one day. And it turns out that I do it for the same reason! It's not a thought-out or conscious thing. I just do it. Then when it's time to start a load in the dishwasher, the sink cup, mug, spoon, fork, tongs, chopsticks, all that stuff goes in the dishwasher along with all the dirty dishes.

I am married to a strong, kind, God-fearing man whom I respect, love and honor. Just bragging.

This was surprising to see thedadvocate‬ on this channel. Love both your channels and love to see based people come together and have a good & positive conversation. Great collaboration and I would love to more of these collaborations in the future.

Men shouldn't mistreat women. But Men no longer have any obligations to women.

Grabbed my sink bowl to microwave some rice while listening to this

I make sure to allow men to open doors for me and double make sure I thank them. I don’t like to make them feel bad. I would never tell them “I can do it myself”. It’s a courteous act that they should not feel bad doing.

There was a comment around the hour mark or so about men not going into marriage, not wanting to hurt women, and women aren't going in looking to drain their pockets. The only issue I see is that while it may not be their intention, it's always an option because of marriage laws, etc. and I think we all know the phrase "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" perceived or otherwise. Great show, Nick. I really enjoyed this conversation and glad you had the Dadvocate on.

This exact issue is why young men are not getting married, it’s a rigged system against them. If you want to raise the marriage rates you have to make the divorce courts fair. 50% custody should be the norm and shouldn’t have to be fought for.

"I am not responsible for what you meant. I'm only responsible for a reasonable interpretation of what you said." This needs to be shouted, repeatedly for the world to hear.

Someone once asked the question: Women, do you spend hours wondering what's on your man's mind? Wish he would talk more? Well, he said, I'm going to reveal the truth to you now, "Most of the time, it's absolutely nothing..." Women are different than men...

In 2008 I married my wife and when we started dating in 2006 I met her two kids. I was 30 at the time and my stepdaughter was 16 and my stepson was 20. I have always treated them like they’re my own kids. Their father is still very much a part of their lives. I’m just there to be who they need me to be. I love them both very much. They’re both now very productive adults. My stepdaughter is a registered nurse and my stepson is a regional manager for a major energy drink company.

Decades ago - probably early 80’s - a judge made a ruling in a custody case that made sense and to this day I do not understand why this common sense ruling isn’t made more. In essence, the judge said that the divorce was no fault of the children therefore the children should not endure the hardship of two homes, etc. He ordered the children stay in the home and the parents split custody by getting separate places to live on non-custodial days. I thought it was a great idea.

Just this past Sunday when we were celebrating Father’s Day I was telling my family about both of you individually and how much you do for the world. So happy you guys got together for this discussion

Honestly I just love that these two accounts are talking. They could talk about fishing or the weather, just as long as they are talking. Now I want to see Dadvocate talk to Roma

She hit it on the head: why should I be exceptional to women who are, essentially, honor-less men

Awesome episode!! So glad you all collaborated!!

if masculinity is toxic, then feminist are toxic as well. it goes both ways, not one sided like they think.

After 6 years and $500k i got full custody of my kids. As a man in Manassas court. I was paying $2600 a month on child support. I was overseas when she decided to leave me so It was high

My uncle didn't want his wife to go to women only dinners, because of how the sad, pathetic and bitter ones always try to spread their negativity to other women. Now its all out in the open on the internet... And there's a lot of bitter women spreading a lot of negativity. A lot just get sucked in, and that's the plan all along. Sharing their misery.

My husband lost his kids when his wife of 14 years decided she was tired of being with him. She lied to family and friends and the courts still gave her full custody even though he never did anything wrong!! Thank you so much for addressing these issues!!!

When you are raising children you are raising the next generation so do it good!! The next generation is who will keep and build our country. 🇺🇸

Its nice to see two people I watch have a convo, and then to have effectively a celebration of relationship goals and unity. It always good to be reminded that the worst of it is just online and that you will most often meet the Nicks and the Laurens out in the real world.

40:45 biggest thing she isn't saying that makes her advice unworkable for the vast majority is that she was not sleeping around during this courtship period. Most women do. If she was her man is a simp and none of us should listen to a word she says

Been following Davocate for a while, great inspiration and insight! Thanks Nick for highlighting her work. SemperFi!

The cup is at the sink because he's not sure he's done "dirtying it up" yet!

A lawyer once told me that the judge will use a point system and he will automatically give the woman 3 points because she is the child's mother.

Two of my favorite people to watch, very glad for the colab!

I was SO excited to see this collab!!!!

50:15 You cannot argue away the divorce rate. You cannot argue away the fact that 80% of divorce is filed by women. You cannot argue away the fact the divorce court robs men an rewards women for divorce. You cannot argue away the rise of the social media influencing most women to have unreasonable standards and expectations. You cannot argue away studies about dating apps and other factors that change how women behave with regards to relationships. Until the laws are fixed regarding no fault divorce, alimony, child support, child custody, paternity fraud, domestic abuse fraud, etc. You cannot lie to men and claim things are turning around. They haven't turned around yet, and even if they do, the laws still haven't changed. The raw statistics don't lie, and people aren't getting younger waiting for things to change. Australia just created an effort to control men through social engineering. That is NOT "getting better". It is a dystopian nightmare! You have survivor bias. I'm an Engineer, Professional Pilot, and Combat Vet. All three of those professions are male dominated, as in over 90% men. And 2 of those jobs have incredibly high divorce rates, far above the average. Pilots have such a high divorce rate there is even an unofficial term for it. Also, having spent years of my life in male-dominated fields, combat deployments, training, an college, I've had little to no time to meet women in my 20s. And as you get older it gets strangely harder to meet new people. Over 90% of all the men I've known in my life have been divorce. It's amazing how many of them have been married 2-3x. How am I supposed to look at that and think I can expect better odds?

Thank you for reviewing these all important issues. I am a grandma- and have seen so many trends in the US. The war on traditional values has been ongoing for many years. Bringing these issues to light really helps so many hurting victims of these changing ideologies-

And few people are more arrogant, and yet resentful, than women who are awarded that custody arrangement.

Two of my favorite people, discussing some of my favorite topics, in a manner that has become one of my favorite styles. Thank you both!

I have to say, Thank You. Both of you have had a part in making me a more attentive husband and father.

This was a wonderful show. My husband and I are constantly amazed that the fact that we respect and appreciate each other shocks others.

Great interview and interesting comments. Thank you for sharing this interview.

What a great start to the morning. seeing my two favourite content creators collaborate and having a strong positive conversation. Thank you to you both, and look forward to seeing a future collaborations. Awesome work :)

Fun little fact, in several states it is legal precedent and enforced that even a male victim of a woman actually convicted of r*ping that man can and are forced to pay child support for any children born as a direct result of that assault (Hermesmann v Seyer was the first case). The argument from the court was that the well-being of the child outweighs the well-being of the victim. Okay . . . then why are they leaving the child in the hands of a convicted sex offender who clearly is failing their responsibility to financially support them? In many of these cases, the male victim was underage at the time of the r*pe, so they are doing this to people who are still children themselves.

I love the advocate! Thankyou for doing this interview!

YES! I absolutely love TheDadvocate. Great and fun interview all around.

Woman who works as a firefighter here. 95-98% of the people I work with are men. Just gonna say, the men I work with are by and large awesome people with a vast amount of knowledge and skill. I consider myself lucky to get to learn from them on a day to day basis. My mother was the worst influence in my life, and if I had been forced to live with her alone growing up I would have run away or died. Possibly both. It got to the point where over the summers I would get sent to live with my Aunt and Grandmother out of state- and I owe the both of them the fact that I made it to adulthood at all, much less relatively sane. The primary reason my dad didn’t divorce her was because he was afraid of losing access to us kids. I remember in my teenage years begging my dad to go through with it after they had gotten into another fight. She would do stuff like cheat on my dad and in various ways emotionally (and sometimes physically) abuse my brother and I. Not gonna list details here, but it was bad enough that even our teachers noticed. She would then retreat up to her bedroom for days on end and demand we would take care of her. This culminated when I was fifteen and she tried to kill herself, and failed. I found her note while she was in the hospital. A friend of hers online noticed her messages were weird and called the police. That’s the only reason she survived. My point is I know from firsthand experience that Mom is not always the better option. Legislation needs to change to be balanced towards both genders. Society also needs to change in the same way. It also bears recognition that women can absolutely be as abusive as any man. We as a society need to learn to be balanced. Neither gender is “better” than the other- because neither would exist without the other.

ME ✋🏻 right here. I LOVE men. I love and appreciate men for the qualities they possess that I do not.

Great Combo, I saw the short but not the notification for this. Big fan of thedadvocate. Plus I greatly appreciate Nick's point of view and his words and actions to do his best to stand up for moral good.

Awesome to see two of my favorite channels come together like this. I hope you guys do more of these

You are severely overestimating the amount of good women or women untainted by feminism

Two of my favorites

How GREAT to see two of my favorite YT personalities together discussing important issues in a pleasant, humorous way! Thanks!

Nick thank you for the Mugs! I got my father two for Father’s Day and he said he was going to use it every morning for coffee! Thank you again for the high quality mugs! 😁

Im just tired of hate people have for each other

Out of this whole video the thing that captured my attention most is the phrase 'perverse incentives.' A most excellent new term that I wish I thought of first. It's f'ing intuitive with regard to definition.

I’m so excited you guys got Lauren on!!!! I’ve been following her channel for a while and she’s amazing!

Two of my favorites. This was so wholesome. Thank you!

The thing I appreciate about this content is that it holds people accountable: their actions, their behaviors, their words, they are responsible for what they say and do. Will they learn? Probably not, I don’t know. I like that there are people trying to keep things in check, though: I’m less frustrated after videos like this

My daughter is now 16 and I haven't seen her face in 6 months. Her mother completely supports her in having nothing to do with me after 14 years of faithful love and support for the 20% I was granted. Her reasoning? I'm a Christian who won't go woke.

I love and watch both of your channels! This was a really great interview!

It makes me so happy to see two of my favorite creators, collaborating together to spread an important message. Great job to you both.

This was an unexpected guest! I can’t stick around to watch the live broadcast, but I look forward to the recording/any clips that come out of it!

You are Both wholesome

Amazing interview!

Really great podcast. Already subscribed to both. Didn’t see this coming lol.

LOVE THIS GIRL!!! Watched her for YEARS, now.

Most men also dont WANT to complain about most things. Theres wild double standards that women would scream from the rooftops about that get treated like nothing because millions of men dont complain about them.

this is the collab I wished to see for a long time, have been following both of you and was bamboozled in the most positive way when I saw both faces in the same thumbnail

I'm so glad you had her on, I love her stuff nearly as much as I love yours.

VIRGINIA SCREWED ME AND TOLD ME THEY DONT DO JOINT. VOIDED MY VISITATION WHEN I WENT OVERSEAS AND THEN SHE MOVED AWAY TO ANOTHER STATE AND IM STILL PAYING CHILD SUPPORT. HAVENT SEEN MY DAUGHTER IN 12 YEARS. SPOTSY COURT WAS ALL ABOUT THE MOMS

Spoiler: this was always feminism's goal. Stop kidding yourselves that this is a recent tainting of feminism. The original feminists clearly stated their goal was to destroy the family and explicitly destroy Christianity.

Another great interview. I learnt a few ideas from it.

This is awesome watching my two favorite social media personalities having such a good discussion.

My dad and mother got divorced when I was 4 but he took us every weekend... until he remarried. She hated us and thought her family was all he needed to worry about. By the time I was about 21 or so I was only seeing him maybe once a year at a family get-together. I tried to insert myself back into his life several times and failed... then he died when I was about 45 (10 years ago). I was never going to put my kids through this. I got divorced after 8 years. I filed. We did joint custody and everything was fine... until she got a boyfriend and stopped seeing the kids almost completely. She would only see the kids for a few hours maybe every month or two. I was paying child support because the kids were on Medicaid and Medicaid required a minimum child support. It was only $50. When I got laid off though I got Medicaid and put the kids on that. I notified Friend of the Court that I had full custody and the kids had Medicaid through me because I got laid off (after 15 years). They decided I was still the one to pay child support. 3 years later when it was going to be renewed I talked to a case worker to make she this was fixed and asked what I could do because she was supposed to pay 40% based on the divorce decree. Since she did not have a job and was living at her boyfriends they were not going to go after her for back debt. They decided I was going to pay the child support again... and again in 3 years after me new case worker insisted I the court could not assign it to me still. Well the kids are all in their 20s, but my ex has finished college and is a RN and makes way more than me and engaged... and she never paid a penny of the $25,000+ she owes me. I think unless a parent turns it down they should ALWAYS be eligible for joint custody and the expense split should be split by income only. If one pays for insurance that is just part of what is paid by BOTH. If not joint custody can be settled on then it would be Wednesday through half a day Saturday... and even split. And Alimony should be banned.

Makes you question what the hell we fought over sea's for. When the real enemy was here all along. Reform is an understatement

great episode! 2 great people that are trying to help make things and people better!

I really love the conversation that both of you are having people need to hear it I just hope they're listening

What I learned in Divorce court. If you have an affair you are a piece of shit but IF YOUR WIFE HAS AN AFFAIR, you must be a piece of shit or else she wouldn't have.

Men in charge are not holding women accountable

Two of my Fav's Together!

Beautiful conversation. Loved every second of it. Pure gold... I have to admit, i was caught in the negative male space for a while, after some really bad experiences with women. And yes, i started to blame women alot... Then i came across the two of you, independently of each other of course... And you've both helped steer me in the right direction, and i've come to find a new appriciation for women, and relationships. But i have to also confess, i now know, i'm incapable of being in a relationship for a myriad of reasons, so i opted to keep myself out of the dating pool now, and just focus on building myself up... I love perspective you both bring to us, and i love learning from both of you. Stay the course. The journey IS the destination !

We don't have enough Bear True Crime shows.....I agree.

I wish I knew beautifully well rounded ladies 🙏💛

Great interaction, I've been following her longer that I've been watching your videos.

I've been following the Dadvocate for quite a while and now maybe I'll have to follow. Nick, too. Okay, already follow him. This was an awesome collaboration. I didn't learn anything new because I'm one of those lucky guys that have been married for 47 years to a woman who loves me and says thank you to me all day and who I thank all day too. She's my best friend and my absolute favorite sweetheart. In fact, there's no second place. And never has been.