Love those IH Scouts. Good choice.

Movie (Grumpy old men) comes to mind retirement scout ..

@@Beaterswithheaters 😅

@@the__tinkerer I drive a 1974 p20 Stepvan everyday . Over a million miles .. 4 speed stick ,Plumber by trade and use it everyday. I’m building a1987 el Camino on k10 shorbed frame for a daily and a 1974 duster for a cruiser , just finished buying / fixing a smashed 2017 ford fiesta ST ,, have no interest in driving it . Just funds for the good old stuff .

P20 Step Van, epic toilet technician's truck. Wish I could find one. @@Beaterswithheaters

Dealerships will never change! So much bs

Its not a used car because of 60 miles on it to another dealership. Its not used until it is titled. Its probably just a dealer trade or family dealership had a customer that wanted to see/test drive it.

Why new? Why now?

@@tim4269they should have put that car on a truck’s bed to avoid accumulating mileage.

Not used until its titled! And they don't transport in a bed of a truck-- THEY drive them. 60 miles is nothing added fees suck for sure. I just had same experience, except $3700 in fees and add stuff(tint, etch, ture protection stuff for $2995) Wouldn't take it offshore didn't buy!!! GMC DEALER

Same her, I'm looking for a Charger Scatpack slim or wide body. Spoke to a salesman and was told there were no further discounts. I just got a text today from a Dealer asking me to make them a offer lol.

… don’t buy it !! … invest your money, or buy real estate … - ALL vehicles are a WASTE of $$$ !!

Callie prices are so high and rates to. Insurance is dropping all v8 dodge cost to fix is way to high

Goes to show you these 2 clowns are clueless. They keep saying dodge is struggling. Blah blah. Dealerships don’t give a 💩. They are sticking to there guns.

you sound hungry, the dealer probably smelled the desperation

Opening up a passageway for shipping should take little time as soon as victims are recovered. Or declared unrecoverable. It's basically a hook up and drag operation needed to pull fallen sections of the bridge to the sides of a usable channel.

You must be touched in the head a bit.

My guess is it takes 1.5 to 2 weeks just to bring in the large crane ships, and barges needed to haul away metal and concrete debris. Another 1 to 2 weeks to clear it all up. A few more days to get the green lights from authorities that the channel is clear before shipping can resume. Probably wont have shipping resume before April 25th. As for the bridge, we are looking at 3 to 3.5 years. Maybe 2.5 if fast tracked and we don't have a lot of bad weather delaying completion.

Seems absurd that there was nothing to stop a ship from plowing into the main bridge structure.

@@clagueb3686 From the images I've seen there are some concrete structures that were designed to protect the bridge. Obviously, hindsight tells us that they weren't adequate. This bridge was built in the early 1970s, fifty years ago. Before the time of these gigantic container ships. The ship did drop an anchor once power was lost but not in time to stop the ship. Lose power and lose steering.

Aman

They just want to make money of videos.

The essence of KZfaq, just get them to click.

Bidenomics has the answer!

"accident"

This was no accident !

@@Hardcoreweather1 exactly. Only the beginning. They're gonna purposely cripple the whole economy.

It's more of an incident than an accident

prayers do nothing

Good point. Not a fan of service contracts, so that would be $7k of air and negative equity I was financing. No sir.

I know it apples to oranges but look how quickly PA got that I-95 overpass replaced

@@AB-NJ This bridge will be a minimum of 3 years to build and open up. It is 1.5 miles long. They will also HOPEFULLY build the new bridge with large barrier walls to protect the support beams from a container ship knocking into it. We had another bridge open up last year going over the Potomac River just a bit shorter in length. It took 2.5 years to build, but there was planning before that for years for replacing it. This bridge will have to have a fast track for planning, design, and funding. Traffic is going to be a mess here in the Baltimore area. for the next 3 years.

They’re about 3-4 weeks out as of this point, but that’s still not horrible.

In fairness, how long is awhile? If they have predicted the car sales to tank in April 2024, and it does, then they were good with their prediction. No?

New are falling but used cars are not falling yet because of high demand for tax refund season, I believe was the just of it.

Wasn't designed for something that did not exist at that point in time. We may need to look at other bridges that are vulnerable to the same impacts and add collision barriers.

@@bobwallace9753 need to look at this country in general; it's people are failing the country

@@B126USMC Oh, I don't think so. We're going through a rough patch politically, but overall things are getting better and better.

Build a bridge exposed to ship traffic and the engineers don’t consider it could be struck by a large ship? Really? What Risk Manager didn’t consider that possibility?

@@larrys9879Engineering design requires cost considerations. The bridge was in operation for 47 years without being struck. Not the first time it has happened in the US. Many things have to be considered when designing infrastructure and even with heavier protection than what the piers had on the Key bridge, that still would have happened. The ship weighs over 310,000,000 lbs.

Facts

click bait watching these two

I haven’t been watching that long, but seems to me they’ve clearly distinguished between buying new cars and waiting on used cars. These are two completely different markets… And it’s not that hard to tell the difference.

Yeah, these guys are starting to sound more like Scotty Kilmer, everyday!

This exactly. These two are a joke

Yeeeahhh. Unless you can pay cash, you’re still farther ahead financing a new car on a low (or 0%) APR.

My credit union has 5.75% on used cars

@@josephhoban6534 bet it is only on used autos 1-3 years old. Making the price damn near New car prices

@@josephhoban6534Mine has 5.5, as well. But that’s still absurd if you can get a new car at 0%. Mazda CX-50 would be a good example right now. A used car with interest is damn near the same as a new model of the same trim.

Those are rates for near subprime borrowers. For near prime or prime used car loans are closer to 5-8 percent. Still too high.

As our hero’s on this channel say, supply & demand dictates price. If there end up being fewer - or if it takes more money to transport them from farther away, prices will go up.

dealers will use any tragedy to boost prices. look what happened to all prices when the #Bidendisaster hit!!

I totally agree with you, the price should go up in the MSRP, but no dealer add on using somebody’s death for profit.

I completely agree. Also, this accident doesn’t mean people are all of a sudden going to be in the need of a new vehicle which means the cars sitting on lots now, will still be sitting for weeks/months….

Travel time and per deim

There's a lot of money at stake. Look for some large tugs to show up and drag debris to the side, creating a passage for cargo ships. My guess is that as soon as victims are recovered a passageway will be opened. It's just a matter of sending divers down to hook up cables and then towing.

​​@@bobwallace9753 I'm not sure you appreciate the sheer mega-tonnage of connected steel and concrete debris that's now stuck in mud under even more millions tons of water... a dense medium upon which tug boats have (literally) no traction. A tug hooking a line to that mess might as well be dragging anchor. Clearing a path will entail a lot of underwater cutting and dredging, if not outright explosive demolition. This will not take weeks, it will take months.

@@spliffbooth As a long term blue water sailor I have a pretty good feel for dealing with mass in water. Look at the beam (width) of the transport ships. That will give you a feel for the size of the passageway that needs to be opened. Will it require some cutting of bridge steel into manageable sizes? Probably. How long does it take to cut through steel? Not long. Remember, as soon as the bridge went down experienced people most likely started planning on how to open up a passageway. Most likely the large tugs and service ships started getting ready to move to the area. There should be no need to remove concrete/stone. Just set the route around any piles of that sort of debris. There should be no need for dredging as no fill was dumped into the route. There's a lot of work that will have to be done to clear and rebuild the bridge. But not that much to open a pathway for a 160 foot (max) wide ship. Worst case, the span length for the Francis Scott Key bridge was 1,200 feet. There are sections between pilings that are blocked by fallen steel beams. Any concrete roadway is going to be on the bottom and can stay there, at least for now.

We've still not seen the full impact/financial carnage from (super inflated) 2021/2022/2023 new car purchases. No idea how many, but a lot of people handcuffed themselves w/those unwise purchases.

That's awesome...it takes a few yrs minimum to fill some potholes on the east coast though

I looked online and there are 2017 Toyota Priuses with 130k+ miles going for 15k and up! I bought my car at 115K for 11K, and now it's worth MORE with 15,000 more miles on it.

These are facts. The Port will be open again by next week worst case scenario. The economic impact is to high for the waterway and port not to be open ASAP.

Just left a Mazda dealership. LOADED with new cars!

Agreed

Yeah, that aren't selling either, so they'll be looking to get rid of them for even newer cars. I've had my eye on the Cadillac dealership around the corner from my house and they have new XT4's, XT5's, XT6's and Lyrics that's been sitting since last year. The only thing moving is them rotating the cars because nobody is buying them. And, the prices on both the XT4 & XT5 (years 2019-current) have all dropped by at least $5,000. I'm gonna wait until the ink clears and buy very soon. I'm not listening to nobody when I know I need a new car 😂

I found a 2023! Mazda brand new on the lot. No discount!

Buy out of state from dealers internet websites. Maybe you can get a better price.

Im shopping for a Q50/G37 myself. Watch out, theres lots of salvages on the Q50/60

lol no Literally, all you have to do is look at your personal finances. Cars right now are essentially going for 30% more than they should be. So can you afford a $40K car? Because that's a new RAV4. $40K over 72-months is $560 a month. That's before interest and insurance.

300?

300% ??? Better take a math refresher course.

EIGHT BILLION

Nothing went up 300 percent. There are plenty of discounted rates as little as 0 percent on new vehicles.

Good luck. I’ve been looking to buy one for three years.

A holes at a dealership wanted 29 k for my 2021 Jeep gladiator with 16000 miles. According to them that as fair value for my trade lol

@@Jamesthor the only ones I've found that were cheap enough have been wrecked. No one will loan on them.

New 2023 Gladiators discounted as low as $32K in my area.

@@JohnDoe-wy2py Where is that area?

Needing for a handicapped family member

Used Tesla 3 or Y. There's a $4k federal rebate which lowers the sales price by $4k. And then annual operating savings of about $1k per year. And you get a very reliable car that is unlikely to need expensive repairs.

I’m not interested in an EV, I’m also not interested in a used car as well.

@@jenniferneu5082 Don't rule out EVs without thinking logically about them. As a second car an EV could be a total winner. Think extremely low operating costs and few, if any, repair costs. Or perhaps you don't care about money?

It’s not odd at all. They inflated the fuck out of prices while interest rates were next to nothing. Now the prices are inflated and the interest rates are sky high. As for used, the price is high due to the supply. Were in 2024 now and 3 year leases aren’t coming back because the supply was so low in 2020 and 2021 due to COVID

I don't think your math works, but yeah, nothing can withstand that much mass moving at 8 knots