Do NOT buy this $103 electric bike conversion kit

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4 жыл бұрын

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@metalheadmalta
@metalheadmalta 4 жыл бұрын
Bracket on the inside, a couple of washers, and it works beautifully. I'd say the motor isn't all that powerful, but if it is just help you need on some of the stiffer hills, then it works just great. You got stuck when all you needed to save the project was a 5 dollar steel plate...
@normandgallant8106
@normandgallant8106 3 жыл бұрын
Easier with aluminium than steel .....
@GDMHificationranpitc
@GDMHificationranpitc 3 жыл бұрын
@@normandgallant8106 Hi, proof?
@normandgallant8106
@normandgallant8106 3 жыл бұрын
@@GDMHificationranpitc cutting and drilling holes is easier with aluminium
@GDMHificationranpitc
@GDMHificationranpitc 3 жыл бұрын
@@normandgallant8106 true I should have asked the person above for proof... maybe I could get some images out of them. Have the lovely resurrection power ever day kind of day.
@normandgallant8106
@normandgallant8106 3 жыл бұрын
@@GDMHificationranpitc I've made two brackets with aluminium for these motors , and using them on mu trikes ,can I help you with the images you mentionned ?
@jrodgers33
@jrodgers33 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you finish this with a custom mount bracket so we can hear how well the rest of the components in the kit work.
@MrSauve16
@MrSauve16 4 жыл бұрын
Xxzzzzzz has a lot of different things to say to me when I'm on the phone with my friends and I just want
@larrym2434
@larrym2434 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSauve16 I feel the same way
@Miggysteez
@Miggysteez 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@JohnDoe-pv2iu
@JohnDoe-pv2iu 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean the thumbnail says I hate this motor but it seems the issue is the cheap bracket fit. If someone is building the super cheap route, they should expect some fabrication work. You're not going to get anything 'plug and play' going super cheap...
@Claptrax
@Claptrax 3 жыл бұрын
I used something similar to build a scooter and it wasn't bad for the price
@TOMMYBOY6969
@TOMMYBOY6969 4 жыл бұрын
I have this on my bike and it's a good kit, i am thinking of buying another one, but you would always need a little fabrication to make it align. In your case,, you would need several washers per bolt to bring your sprocket out. And somehow bend or mount your motor bracket in a different location like behind the frame. That motor bracket will not fit every single bicycle since every bike has a slightly different frame geometry...
@stanleycris2323
@stanleycris2323 2 жыл бұрын
Yes or as @Chris Grillo suggests a steel plate to shim the sprocket. These kits aren't exactly plug and play. They require installation. On one of my petrol motorized bikes I ran into a similar sprocket alignment issue . I used scrap sheet metal salvaged from a discarded household appliance to fabricate the shims. Used the sprocket as a template to mark out the 9 mounting holes + large hole in center and problem was solved at no additional cost. I don't have this exact kit but I have a similar kit produced by Currie a long time ago.
@wengsiongsai2815
@wengsiongsai2815 11 ай бұрын
Is this motor can last ?
@IVChan
@IVChan 4 жыл бұрын
I almost thought of buying this motor for my first time e bike, thanks for being honest with the community , this is way better than just watching you build it perfect from the start. Feels like I'm there with you in the process
@ItsJoeBull
@ItsJoeBull 2 жыл бұрын
Mounts pretty good for me
@kitecattestecke2303
@kitecattestecke2303 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsJoeBull will still pull the pedal off under your feat and break your feet one day.. That kit is ass and should only be used as a motor helper eight thumb gas config, a true "e bike" need you to paddel an double on power not just spin the rear wheel like an idiot
@andrewgonzalez2328
@andrewgonzalez2328 4 жыл бұрын
Did you try mounting the bracket on the inside of the frame instead of the outside it looks like it would fit and line up the chain that way
@williamirwin5945
@williamirwin5945 4 жыл бұрын
That was my plan, but it requires a reverse freewheel which they offer.
@williamirwin5945
@williamirwin5945 4 жыл бұрын
From Yalu - Marina, I don't like this public reply discussion with you, but KZfaq left me no obvious way to reply. I have been emailing you directly about my getting the wrong kit. I ordered the left kit and received the normal kit which has the freewheel running backwards from what I expected. AliExpress order # 8014776998395459. Shipping carton packing slip # 20012432379. I can't use this kit that way and need to get that freewheel reversed like I expected. I did expect to manipulate the mounting plate, but anything that I accomplish is useless without the backwards (left?) freewheel I ordered and expected I did not get the LEFT kit I ordered. Please help me resolve this problem.
@williamirwin5945
@williamirwin5945 4 жыл бұрын
@Zeksteve I realize that, but the freewheel is also backwards. I have ordered that and some extra chain. Turns out I misunderstood what the LEFT version meant. I actually thought it was the freewheel direction, not the bike side. My bad!
@jeffholmes9483
@jeffholmes9483 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamirwin5945 I had the same issue with the freewheel and fixed it with a little JB Weld. I applied it from the retaining ring to the adapter insert. Since using this fix i have put almost 1,500 miles on this kit.
@williamirwin5945
@williamirwin5945 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffholmes9483 Let me understand you. You 'welded'/froze the freewheel so it is now a solid sprocket. This suggests that the motor gets pushed by the bike wheel when not under Epower. Then the motor has low resistance to pedaling.
@jeffholmes9483
@jeffholmes9483 4 жыл бұрын
I have one of these kits with almost 1000 miles on it. I wanted to use a cruiser for it so I made a template of the mount and to it shopping with me. I decided on a Kent 2600 Bayside. I did have to modify the mounting bracket by taking about 1/4 inch out of it. The motor sprocket is NOT intended to be used as a lefthand drive. The bearing will actually unscrew itself. I used a little epoxy on the outer ring and have had no issues with it. I went with the 24 volt 450 watt motor and it screams with my 36 volt battery. I can cruise at 28 mph on flat ground. I don't typically ride it that way but I I pedal with it at about 20mph. Hills are no issue either. I have a few videos on KZfaq where I talk about my issues with this kit that I can share is anyone wants them.
@kineto7
@kineto7 4 жыл бұрын
Also about same story here, had to cut out pieces of metal from mount, so that the motor sits closer to the frame. In our case we had more hassle with getting both chains tight, as it was single speed bicycle before, had to mount tensioner for the single speed to make it work. Otherwise speed is quite good with 24v 450w motor along with 36v battery and controller. Ive heard it is possible to run these from 48v but then risk is high burning them. Lots of info about these on endlesssphere
@jeffholmes9483
@jeffholmes9483 4 жыл бұрын
@@kineto7 i used a half link to get my chain as tight as i wanted. My biggest issue was the freewheel sprocket kept falling apart. I used some JB weld to attach the back ring to the adapter for the motor shaft. I also run my motor at 36 volts and no issues there. I don't know about anyone else but for me it is well worth the money i paid. I got a 28mph Ebike for $300 including the bike and that is ok with me.
@kineto7
@kineto7 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffholmes9483 Gladly we didnt have any freewheel issues. Buy yes, the chain alignment part was a pain, I think about a day was spent before it got sorted and right technique figured out, also first chain seemed to have worsen situation, so I think at end we switched to bmx chain as well. Price wise very good kit, considering that significant speed can be attained, usually 48v battery might be needed for 40kph speed
@marywong2159
@marywong2159 4 жыл бұрын
Now only $350 per unit, free shipping within USA Mainland. Original Kiwano KO1 PLUS Unicycle Scooter Store Link: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/FREE-SHIPPING-unicycle-UL2272-KIWANO-KO1_62396810871.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.111720.3.1f7c3f80MsHXZD#reviewSubHeader
@harrykyn1442
@harrykyn1442 3 жыл бұрын
Works for me , had to adjust the bracket to fit , but no problem at all 2 years on ....
@majestic-1241
@majestic-1241 9 ай бұрын
I have seen users modify and fabricate the mount successfully. I purchased an L-Faster kit and used a metal straight bracket to make the upper connection higher and got the motor working on an old 10 speed. It works really great. Thumbs Up!
@AntonellaFrancesca
@AntonellaFrancesca 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for going the extra mile to help us out as we try to navigate the crazy complicated world of ebike conversions!
@kkitzhaber
@kkitzhaber 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most useful videos! You're saving many people the time, money, and frustrations! Thank you for being our guinea pig. God Bless.
@grantadamson3478
@grantadamson3478 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. There are so many choices. It's good to know where to get the most reliable products for the best prices. We need more guinea pigs.
@marywong2159
@marywong2159 4 жыл бұрын
Now only $350 per unit, free shipping within USA Mainland. Original Kiwano KO1 PLUS Unicycle Scooter Store Link: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/FREE-SHIPPING-unicycle-UL2272-KIWANO-KO1_62396810871.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.111720.3.1f7c3f80MsHXZD#reviewSubHeader
@igorberezin856
@igorberezin856 Жыл бұрын
Even if you get it to work it will have problems after regularly using it for over a year
@benpryce
@benpryce 4 жыл бұрын
I actually bought all of the parts since your last video and am on my 3rd freehub. I definitely ran into chain alignment issues, but was able to shim it out to get almost perfect alignment...however, the first freehub loosened and spun the bearings within 2 weeks, and it’s replacement freehub from LFaster did the same in 2 days. Trying a different freehub on the lfaster adapter, and after that scrapping the L faster kit and going for a hub motor
@danielbollenhagen5201
@danielbollenhagen5201 2 жыл бұрын
For a lot of people who are DIYers that are willing to take fitting this kit on, I don't think they'd mind a little bit of fabrication to get the project working. It would be good to see how well the kit works as it does appear to be the cheapest on the market and there have been plenty of people buying this kit but no video reviews on a complete install.
@craigc6626
@craigc6626 4 жыл бұрын
Wish this video was sooner! I got one for my son a few months ago and it sucks. The clutch fell off 1st ride. My son was very disappointed he still doesn't have a working bike now. Still trying to find the money and the right motor to try this over again. Also took a lot of modification to get the chain in line for us also I had to flatten The ears on the bracket where it mounted to the frame and then kind of tweak it in place each time to get the chain and alignment. I had a perfectly aligned everything tight and yet the clutch still fell off and in a really bad way it spun off halfway up the road and that was it. I was able to get it back on a few times but I finally gave up cuz every time we ride it it falls apart
@bijikuriakose8441
@bijikuriakose8441 4 жыл бұрын
He have risk himself for all our sake.otherwise we will be in the same problem.Thank you.
@tjmorgan8194
@tjmorgan8194 4 жыл бұрын
Biji kuriakose I ordered the kit and got it yesterday... I am going to try today
@Anthony-vm1jc
@Anthony-vm1jc 4 жыл бұрын
The problem wasn't the kit I've run several and for £60 you should have to expect to have to trouble shoot n modify he should have researched beforehand 😂✌️
@MLGsavageking
@MLGsavageking 4 жыл бұрын
@@tjmorgan8194 how is it now
@arkane3168
@arkane3168 3 жыл бұрын
@@MLGsavageking it probs exploded and he's ded
@keithjetski3060
@keithjetski3060 4 жыл бұрын
I bought that same pile of crap kit for my daughter's 24 inch bike. After bending the bracket in a vise several times and shimming to align, it worked, for all of 30 minutes before the freewheel sprocket shelled out. I threw it in a box and purchased a $155 500 watt 26 inch front hub motor and a new front fork for 26 inch wheel. This worked 100% and was still budget. Daughter loves it. It is 36 volt, and I got a battery for about 120 bucks on eBay.
@MumfordJim
@MumfordJim 4 жыл бұрын
Explain why the new fork? Also who sells the kit?
@keithjetski3060
@keithjetski3060 4 жыл бұрын
@@MumfordJim needed a fork big enough for a 26inch wheel. The bike is a 24 inch wheel bike. Hub motors cost twice the price for 24 as 26. Got the hub motor kit off eBay. Wanted to buy another, but all gone now. Next cheapest was about 220 bucks and 48v 1000watt.
@manushisamarathunga8314
@manushisamarathunga8314 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting us know everything!! Really glad to see these types of videos too. Good Luck!
@BubblewrapOracle
@BubblewrapOracle 4 жыл бұрын
Really really glad to see a project like this! Looking forward to seeing a mid-drive!
@jonnyrox116
@jonnyrox116 4 жыл бұрын
I mounted the bracket on the inside of the stays and it lined up pretty close, added 1 washer to each bolt and the chainline was perfect....but the motor is junk
@jeffholmes9483
@jeffholmes9483 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the motors junk. I have had both the 250 and 450 watt motors. I have put over 500 miles on the 250 watt and almost 1,500 miles on my 450 watt motor. These are geared motors and they are setup to only run about 16 mph at top rpm but if you step up the battery voltage you can get much higher speeds from them. I'm currently running a 24 volt 450 watt MY1018 motor at 36 volts and my bike will top out around 26 mph on a flat road. My bike is heavy (65 lb) and me (205 lb). I personally think that is pretty good since a comparable ebike would cost over $1,000 and I have right at $300 in mine.
@jeffholmes9483
@jeffholmes9483 4 жыл бұрын
@Ray Ellam Be careful with over voltage. I recently changed my drive sprocket and apparently didn't get everything adjusted correctly. I noticed a decrease in power but thought it was just the mountain bike tires i had put on the bike but is was wrong. I barely went a mile before my motor was burnt up. Because of shipping delays and price increases i decided to purchase an Ebikeling 36v 500w geared hub motor that should be here in a few days. It will be interesting to see what the differences will be. I will be giving this left hand drive kit with the 250w motor to my nephew so it will still be in use.
@gilbertojohnson6981
@gilbertojohnson6981 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffholmes9483 do you have a list of links to the parts you used? 300 bucks sounds pretty sweet.
@normandgallant8106
@normandgallant8106 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffholmes9483 Some frigken glad to hear the motors are rugged , I'm planning a trip to Ecuador and have been testing my motor on a heavy Rover Tandem , sometimes I load up the back seat with large rocks to simulate my wife and her gear ....the extra weight helps the Big Apple tire adhere to road surface
@mythrusthelema
@mythrusthelema 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads-up, I am sure this will be helpful for a lot of ppl. Also thanks for the book, I have been enjoying and learning a lot reading the DIY ebike book.
@firstlast8229
@firstlast8229 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered my first eBike... I just wanted to thank you for your videos ... I have learned so much and you helped me make my decision on buying one... thank you ... awesome videos!!!
@Greg-3749
@Greg-3749 4 жыл бұрын
Great honest review from a professional! Thank you! Would spacing the sprocket on the wheel out further from the spokes be a possible fix? Maybe an extra rubber insert? Good Luck!
@doshikruks
@doshikruks 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mikey I purchased it from L-faster it’s the same kit as you have. I bought it after I saw your video. And tried it on 4 bikes I had. Finally returned the kit. I doubt it will fit any American bike. I then bought a hub motor kit by voilamart for $199 on ebay and was easy and fast installation. The total cost of the ebike conversion got bumped up by $100 the but rest of the parts were still utilized for conversion and was great. Infact got a 750w motor the bike goes 22miles and hour.
@rexninjaturtle
@rexninjaturtle 4 жыл бұрын
@KRUNAL DOSHI Can you provide link to your voilamart motor kit?
@monsternovideo2659
@monsternovideo2659 4 жыл бұрын
hello universal fit means you universally have to make it fit. ''Stacy David''
@jjenks
@jjenks 4 жыл бұрын
Your vids have been very informative while I wait for my kit, keep it up!
@henryjunior38
@henryjunior38 4 жыл бұрын
I bought this kit a few years, and it took me about 2 months to get to align correctly. Although the one i got was with the sprocket that fits on the disk brake rotor, instead of the pineapple brackets that you got. I had to add spacers on the sprocket to push it out a bit more, since it wouldn't align with the motor freewheel. Maybe you could do the same and add washers underneath your hub sprocket? That should push out your sprocket even more and hopefully you'd get a better alignment. Another thing i did is that I hammered the mounting plate straight, since it was slightly curved. I also used hose tighteners to mount the plate on the bike frame (i didnt use their cheap aluminum brackets). As well, I noticed that the entire motor+plate would get pulled back and the chain would come lose whenever it was under load. So what I did is that I used cables with cable tensioners (attached the the seat tube) to pull the motor back, so that the chain always stays tight. Also, always try to keep the chain as short as possible. But you're definitely right, this kit is not something that you put together on the evening and ride the next day. It will most likely not fit on the first trial, and might take a few months to get it to work properly. But to their credit, this motor is a tank, it's super durable and you won't find anything better for the price. So if you get it to align and work properly, then this kit will get you to decent speeds, and you will have it for many years (hopefully). Although, the controller that came with it, well that's another story...but making your own controller for a DC motor is quite easy. Anyways, I hope this helps.
@ThanosSustainable
@ThanosSustainable 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t thing there’s any point on getting anything else but a middle or a hub motor.
@David.Sky.Walker
@David.Sky.Walker 4 жыл бұрын
I want to electrify my bike so badly, but I'm afraid that it's going to be so awesomely amazing that I'll never want to pedal a bike again.
@socialfreak6900
@socialfreak6900 4 жыл бұрын
most electric bikes come with something called Pedal Assist, basically you install a sensor that detects when your pedaling and the motor will only power on as you pedal, course you could also go straight throttle and forget to pedal
@cramdangle
@cramdangle 4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what will happen. All my vehicles are electric and I’ll never walk again
@cramdangle
@cramdangle 4 жыл бұрын
BNa
@hapnin5862
@hapnin5862 4 жыл бұрын
@@socialfreak6900 I do a little of both. But I love not having to sweat hills on a 44 yr old, heavy steel frame bike. BUT THE LOVE I'M GETTING FROM THOSE WHO SEE ME ON THE THING IS ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS. Micah was right about those Ibera frame bags. Even the large bag scrunches pretty well inside a tight triangle. BTW, I'm a bit older than the bike, so.....
@David.Sky.Walker
@David.Sky.Walker 4 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Young I like that perspective. I think it's possible that that will be the case for me as well.
@chrisackert8774
@chrisackert8774 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these videos. I always look forward to watching!
@JohnJohnson-fm9po
@JohnJohnson-fm9po 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up! I appreciate you sharing the both the good and the bad experiences when building.
@buddyguy4723
@buddyguy4723 4 жыл бұрын
'The problem begins when you start installing it' I'm glad you at least got it out the box before their were problems lol
@jonhohensee3258
@jonhohensee3258 3 жыл бұрын
there
@brazen_h5308
@brazen_h5308 3 жыл бұрын
The bracket mounts the other way round by the way. Flip it over and it will be an inch deeper. Also you do have to use washers to level it and also you might need to extend or shortern the chain. Did fit it and works really well btw.
@danielfritchley6649
@danielfritchley6649 14 күн бұрын
If you still have this setup could I get a picture uploaded that I can see?
@donwjaco
@donwjaco 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these kits, mounted it in a few hours time, I had a lot of fun riding around. No complaints, inexpensive purchase, I have since switched to Ebikeling wheel/hub motor kit. So easy to install and ride.
@rdog3598
@rdog3598 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, awesome content, love it!
@richardreichow1969
@richardreichow1969 4 жыл бұрын
It is refreshing to find someone who steps up to the plate , and admits he has been taken , on his purchase ..... Good show!
@metalheadmalta
@metalheadmalta 4 жыл бұрын
he hasn't been taken at all... the fix was so easy it is hilarious to think that he did not manage....
@bigzen69
@bigzen69 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and he sells ebike books
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 4 жыл бұрын
people have been mounting engines and motors on bicycles for a long time. many solutions exist. just because the bracket supplied is not fits all is no reason to bail. it just takes a little ingenuity and time to line things up.
@metalheadmalta
@metalheadmalta 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauls5745 People in third world countries, have, indeed, been coming up with ideas on how to fix this problem. 50c is all it takes.
@grahambate3384
@grahambate3384 4 жыл бұрын
i wish u just had MacGyver some thing up and tried it for a few months, cheers Graham
@LaZyGuN23
@LaZyGuN23 4 жыл бұрын
As always, keep up the great work! Appreciate the insight into how to build these bikes. This is just one less problem I will have to run into if I ever have to buy a cheap kit XD
@rmjbn1593
@rmjbn1593 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update Micah - I was looking forward to your progress on this project. I hope you find a solution!
@njfulwider5
@njfulwider5 4 жыл бұрын
I almost purchased one of those. Thanks for posting!!!
@mrbenjaminvincent
@mrbenjaminvincent 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I almost bought one too, on eBay they are like $93
@sagarevstore4524
@sagarevstore4524 4 жыл бұрын
this kit is useless.....i have used it and wasted my money not only one time but in repairing several time... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fr9ngtCk28u1ZWQ.html if liked pls sub my channel
@Scott4271
@Scott4271 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been 2 months since I built my bike and the motor is still running great. Mounting plate can be a bear to install; but everything else is great! If you’re not a DIY type get a front wheel hub motor kit; but if you like a bit of a challenge this is a great kit at a great price!. 8/16/22 motor is still running strong with no problem (using 48 volt battery)
@fourtheboys96
@fourtheboys96 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This not much of a problem for DIYers. In fact, DIYers would love some customization.
@Scott4271
@Scott4271 2 жыл бұрын
1/6/2022. Motor is still running strong with no problems
@strawberrybunnies6031
@strawberrybunnies6031 Жыл бұрын
@@Scott4271 you use this one ?
@cjhawk67
@cjhawk67 2 жыл бұрын
Ive wanted to see that mid drive kit for ages you would be the first person on youtube to do a video on that one.
@gochoa76911
@gochoa76911 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Micah! I am a big fan of yours, I hope you'll continue doing these great videos! I got two of your books and following the batteries book I think I know the battery pack I need to build for my ebike (48v), and I would like to know your recommendations for chargers for these batteries, how to go about it to pick up one, your personal preference, etc. Thank you, Micah.
@pauldeangelis2444
@pauldeangelis2444 4 жыл бұрын
You have an honest face and seem very knowledgeable. You should run for president
@ewanlaw6907
@ewanlaw6907 4 жыл бұрын
at the start of the video I was😢😭 but then at the end I was 🥳😄I'm really excited for the rest of this video to come out .get a hub motor and I want to see those batteries PUMP
@scootersdenver
@scootersdenver 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. LOL I HAVE that exact motor and mount kit and had not yet used it. I my case. the $180 MTN bike I bought to install it on had more issues out of the box than I imagines (chain and rear derailleur had to be replaced immediately) then I over tightened the steering head and stripped it so I fixed and sold that bike before I ever got to trying this kit. I am going to try again soon with a beach cruiser type bicycle which makes no sense to have at all here in Colorado but may work with this motor j=kit. Thanks for the video. I was refreshing after seeing soooo many videos showing "how easy" an eBike kit installs on EVERY bike out there. LOL
@JeffBoberg
@JeffBoberg 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know. Looking forward to the second round.
@annseliger164
@annseliger164 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the days when there wasn’t much for bike motors,that motor would have been really nice 👍.
@mixedmedia2916
@mixedmedia2916 3 жыл бұрын
If you could get it to fit on your bike
@bijikuriakose8441
@bijikuriakose8441 4 жыл бұрын
We all have to be careful when buying cheap things.
@marywong2159
@marywong2159 4 жыл бұрын
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@proudtitanicdenier4300
@proudtitanicdenier4300 3 жыл бұрын
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@callmebigpapa
@callmebigpapa Жыл бұрын
Will it clear if the mounting plate is inside the frame (on other side of the tube)? This is the same setup that all the early Currie E-bikes had. i always wanted one but they were crazy expensive at 400 dollars at walmart.
@jagdeepsharma8170
@jagdeepsharma8170 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike!! Would you be able to give me the motor & controller of not using? I've ccm bike with narrow pitch and most probably it'll work for me.
@MrGrago
@MrGrago 3 жыл бұрын
With probably thousands ob bicycle frame designs out there, it's unlikely that there's ever going to be a UNIVERSAL KIT that fits all... and is expected when you are doing things in a budget that you will have to do some improvisation, some fabrication.... I really enjoy your videos and consider the information you share usually very helpful: I think that in this case you got carried away for the frustration of not being able to make it work AS IS... Still, the kit you putted together IS FAIRLY GOOD and some body else can make use of it adding a few washers or welding an extension to the mounting bracket. .... Wish you had come up with one of your creative ideas. cheers.
@SergioRodriguez-le6zg
@SergioRodriguez-le6zg 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one of those! Luckily I managed to fit everything in my bike, but I wouldn’t buy it NEVER again... Trying to get the cheapest solution I also bought a lead acid battery... you can imagine the gap between that s**t and my current hub motor with lithium batteries haha
@bingus7361
@bingus7361 4 жыл бұрын
lead acid batteries are cheap but for a reason, they drain fast and are heavy as all living hell
@hapnin5862
@hapnin5862 4 жыл бұрын
@@bingus7361 yep....did that last year myself. Grabbed some scooter batteries this year and put the SLA'S on craigslist for free about 2 weeks ago. SLA is fine for temporary, but lithium is definitely the way to go long term.
@wayanlam
@wayanlam 4 жыл бұрын
hows the DIY electric motorbike project coming along? is the next part coming out soon? am keen to see how that all comes together!
@felixjamesonevans6428
@felixjamesonevans6428 4 жыл бұрын
Micah, what are the exact batteries you used and did you test them? Are they any good? There are some fake Liitokala and VariCore etc on AliExpress so I wanted to know if these were as stated and they hold their power etc. thanks
@JG-gj4op
@JG-gj4op 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video showing a cheap conversion that actually works. Out of curiosity, I looked up what I paid for the components for mine and came up with $109 for a hub motor, $31 for controller with display, $4 for a thumb throttle, $8 for a BMS, $24 for ten high-drain 18650 cells, $4 for a battery charger, and $3 for a pack of XT30 connectors. That comes out to $183, including a small 10s1p battery pack that lasts about 30 min, assuming no pedaling. I also had to buy new spokes, and can't find the receipt for that, but I think it was less than $20. So probably about $200. That's still a pretty good price and the build wasn't too difficult.
@ebikeengineer
@ebikeengineer 2 жыл бұрын
I followed Jehu's video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qJdifNWKudfakac.html using a surplus 26" Bafang commercial hub motor, and a XIomi scooter battery pack (10S3P). I used a different controller kit than Jehu and with shipping my cost came to $197 for the bare bones single battery build. It will go 20mph, and has a throttle only range of about 14 miles on relatively flat ground.
@Denvermorgan2000
@Denvermorgan2000 4 жыл бұрын
The seller must have watched this video and left a thumbs down.
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 4 жыл бұрын
I did too because it seemed there are quite a few options to mount a motor or engine on a bike. nothing new. rear rack mount (w longer chain) fab a bracket a few different ways. where there's a will there's a way!
@andrewwong3326
@andrewwong3326 4 жыл бұрын
I got the mid drive kit that you are considering. The bracket and the hardware is pretty sketchy too. Would you be able to find a simple hub drive for around the same price?
@DigBipper188
@DigBipper188 4 жыл бұрын
I had one of these on my bike before I went brushless. It wasn't bad when it worked but I had a list of issues; 1: Chain tension was impossible to maintain because it kept getting loose and throwing chains every couple hundred miles 2: Sprocket alignment is a pain in the arse 3: the freewheel fell apart on me during my commute so I put it back together as best as I could and welded it, which netted me another 2000 miles luckily. This is a good solution though for fabricating your own electric go-kart though. It would get a decent wriggle on with the right gear ratio.
@iloiloguy
@iloiloguy 4 жыл бұрын
Wanna sell it? I’ll give you $3 and free shipping. 😂
@AnthonyGoodley
@AnthonyGoodley 4 жыл бұрын
I'll bid $10 and I'll even pay for shipping too!
@gteaz
@gteaz 4 жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyGoodley Donated $100 for you to buy a bin and trash it. I didn't donate.
@christopherowens2635
@christopherowens2635 3 жыл бұрын
I received mine a week ago and I maxed out around 18 mph. Though the motor blew up after 10 minutes ride at maximum speed. Do you know if the 36v DC motor are designed to heat up easily? Because I have multiple of the 24v and they work fine.
@nixmix3544
@nixmix3544 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great and honest review. You help a lot to all of us who’s into ebike!
@danastoddard9663
@danastoddard9663 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen your first video on the $182 ebike conversion. I think I will still get all the parts recommended in your first video. I have metal fabrication skills and plan on making a custom mount for the motor on the rear triangle of a dual suspension mountain bike that I am converting to a tadpole style trike. Thanks for all of the information.
@FranklySean
@FranklySean 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty. Can't wait to see what you come up with for an affordable conversion kit.
@goldenstarmusic1689
@goldenstarmusic1689 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Sorry to see the motor did not work, did you still figure out how to get the hoverboard batteries to work? I'm trying to use a single battery to drive an ebike, and you seem to be one of few who's actually attempted it.
@1959RPH
@1959RPH 4 жыл бұрын
Well Micah, looks like you are taking one for the team. What does the kit manufacturer say about the universal bracket?
@aliciaantoniadis9100
@aliciaantoniadis9100 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much! I looked a long time at this motor before buying it, and checked out creative channel as well, but he is just ridiculous. I ended up making my own mount on the rear rack. The chain is ofcourse much longer. And lastly, I agree with Jeff Rodgers, I would love to see you finish this project. Personally, I thought the motor is ok, but a tad bit on the weak side. Still, it propels you forward. Again thank you with all of my heart. Sincerely, Alicia Antoniadis from Sweden.
@cyrillegirardin6667
@cyrillegirardin6667 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Very useful. I actually wanted to buy the kit for a soapbox. So I will have to adapt anyway the metal part and so on. And I am mostly interested at the quality of the motor and the chain (including the wheel). Can you advise on the quality/strength of the motor, the chain and the controller/eletronics? Many thanks!
@albertcruz3419
@albertcruz3419 3 жыл бұрын
I currently have a gas powered 80cc motorized bike that doesn't run anymore. Planning to go electric when I saw this kit. The reason why is because it uses similar sprocket mount that attaches to rear wheel. Just curious if this kit will work with what I have.
@davidf9630
@davidf9630 4 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of putting a hub motor on my tandem bike ( for hills mostly). Do you think it will add too much weight to the bike to be safe?
@makpap4367
@makpap4367 4 жыл бұрын
G'day Micah, what kit would you recommend for a mountain bike but for someone weighing just abit over 150kg?
@SMKreitzer1968
@SMKreitzer1968 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, look forward to the next video in the series.
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof Жыл бұрын
If you weren't squeamish about modifying the bracket or the bike in such a way is to give you a usable chain line do you think it would have worked out for you as far as power longevity reliability range and all of the functional aspects of it goes? In the context of I'm working with a 29 inch rim Cruiser/ mountain bike hybrid and for the record I can show self-control when it comes to the power but I don't tolerate underpowered very well so if it's capable of ripping my spokes out I'm all right with that because that would be on me to mitigate. Did that kit include a battery where did you have to purchase that separately?
@MrAlrafdeanradio
@MrAlrafdeanradio 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think that the motor is suitable for us to work on trips and add solar panels and also do you expect the motor to bear for a period of five hours continuously?
@brothercody7338
@brothercody7338 Жыл бұрын
I got the same exact kit, I was blessed with no mounting issues, i got a Schwinn 2.6 ranger mountain bike, it literally went right on and chain was almost exactly in line, worked the position just right as I was tightening the mount bolts and was good to go
@sgtfirefighter
@sgtfirefighter 4 жыл бұрын
Once you get it built do you want to race? I just got the Cyc X1 Pro Gen 2.
@jaypalsinhrana829
@jaypalsinhrana829 4 жыл бұрын
Hi.. Mickey .. I want to make own ebike and I chooses hub motor kit but the thing is that motor specs like rated voltage 36-48V and power 250-500W and controller shows 36-48v with Rated current 15-17a... Please suggest the suitable battery for 40 to 50 km range.
@DarrenGerbrandt
@DarrenGerbrandt 3 жыл бұрын
Well not sure where this video was hiding on me as I was looking for the follow up video to your original one, title may have thrown me off. Question for you: I am looking to add a motor to my canoe cart with a possible modification to allow my wife to also ride on it like a rickshaw. She has problems with her legs and can no longer do long hikes. What I need is a motor that has a good amount of torque and only goes maybe a bit faster than walking speed. Not really sure what I should be looking for/at though, motor wise, at this point. Any help/guidance is appreciated.
@raymondjohns7617
@raymondjohns7617 4 жыл бұрын
I am going to try locktiting the sprucket to keep it from coming apart! Mine I couldn't even get it to screw back together! Hopefully this will fix that problem!
@jorowi
@jorowi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking one for the team!
@kaszel2122
@kaszel2122 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Can you do a follow-up video on Arduino spot welder? Do you still use it? How is working after 1.5 years or maybe you vent back to Sunkko?
@najib19nawas
@najib19nawas 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty and your willingness to go back and reach out to your subscribers to warn us about a previous recommendation. I can speak personally that your recommendations carry weight with me, as i am sure to most of your subscribers. This video, while it was a teachable moment for you, i think what this video ultimately achieved was strengthening your credibility with your viewership. Thank you.
@unvex
@unvex 4 жыл бұрын
I've been reading a lot about new innovations in batteries. Any guess as to how far are we from a commercially available and affordable replacement for the lithium ion battery?
@damindadilshan5358
@damindadilshan5358 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. What do you think about X-TREME ROCKY ROAD 48V ELECTRIC FAT TIRE MOUNTAIN BIKE? Can you please make a video about how to upgrade that model into a beast model? Or is it possible? I'm little concerned about the back suspension too. The placement of it. Can you explain more about it?
@ZZZ_ZZZ_ZZZ_ZZZ_ZZZ
@ZZZ_ZZZ_ZZZ_ZZZ_ZZZ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm late to this post and to your channel. I just trash picked a fixie. It has a fixed gear on the left side. Is there a way to replace that gear with a larger diameter one for bike rack style ebike conversion? I presume you need to pull the gear and press in another. Could that cheapo $103 kit be adapted to my fixie?
@karlosmandos
@karlosmandos 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mikah. What mid priced conversion kits would you recommend from Ali express ? Thanks
@esteban19h08m
@esteban19h08m 4 жыл бұрын
Have you planned to build a bike with wireless or bluetooth properties?, because i have search and found some build with arduino, or raspberry, some others prefers to get a prebuild module like this, but some proyects lack of some important properties which could be added if it propose in ourselves
@fokozuynen2048
@fokozuynen2048 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me if that motor when get electric power can be stoped by your hands? And i mean not trying to much force with your hands cos my motor if i just put my hand on it i am able to stop with nothing is have like very very low power.
@markwoodger2
@markwoodger2 3 жыл бұрын
would those 36v packs be usable as backup cells for 36v bafang bbs02 or is it too much draw.
@chunxiuzhou488
@chunxiuzhou488 3 жыл бұрын
This kit worked for me. I am confused a little bit when I opened the box, because it has no instruction manual in the box, even a page! I watched a video on the youtube, it turns out very easy to install. I, first, installed the motor on the right side and it works fine, just you have to pedal along because the crank set has no free wheel. I am about to try it on the left side.
@kyleniedermeier6651
@kyleniedermeier6651 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being honest and providing the experience/information you learned.
@cruiser97eric1
@cruiser97eric1 4 жыл бұрын
If you had those hoverboard batteries shipped to the USA, can you tell me if you had to pay tariffs on them?
@rgsparber1
@rgsparber1 3 жыл бұрын
In my application, a mid-drive 500W motor makes the most sense. The full system is a lot of money. I have a touring bike built around 1975. Am I wasting my money modifying this bike? Does it make more sense to pay around twice as much and buy a new eBike? I do have a small machine shop so custom brackets are not an issue. Thanks Micah!
@robertzeman4301
@robertzeman4301 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know. I dont think this kit has PAS paddle assistant even the mid drive version based on the missing PAS part (circle with magnets) but Im may be wrong.
@donaldmessenger598
@donaldmessenger598 2 жыл бұрын
I have a shwinn bike is that a good start to convert to electric? and what kit would you suggest.
@bobsyris
@bobsyris 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting development! I'll be watching for the next installment.
@frankleonhardt3337
@frankleonhardt3337 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I was researching this as an interesting option for a conversion, and decided to keep going after watching this. I eventually tracked down some installation videos - in Vietnamese I think, and some manufacturer information. And here's the thing - it's not intended to fit a bike with gears. Some people seem to have hacked it anyway, but it's definitely not made to fit with a derailleur system. Bikes around the world are universal at first glance, but very different when you get to the nuts and bolts level. Derailleur gears are standard in the UK, but not expected in other countries. I think the many Chinese dudes selling these kits are unaware of how different bikes can be. BTW, I know these come in freewheel and weird clamp to spokes version (as reviewed) but from what I can make out the the geometry is just different around the world.
@bonzobanana1
@bonzobanana1 2 жыл бұрын
These sort of kits sell well in India, Pakistan, China, Africa etc where price is the priority and those countries have a lot of single speed bikes with 120mm OLD etc which would be good bikes to use this kit. You can see from the plate that it's intended for horizontal dropouts typically of single speed bikes, fixies and 3 speed hub gear bikes. The popular Buffalo bike in Africa would probably be a good candidate.
@1julezking1
@1julezking1 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the best kit for a beach bike or whats is you recommendation on the best options
@maxpower1911
@maxpower1911 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this kit, specifically because of your video. It seemed like a fun challenge to accept. What is the cheapest bike a person can build, with what is easily the worst kit available. The combined cost of batteries and a $10 used thrift store Kent put my build cost at a little over $160 plus taxes and shipping. I call it the Povert-E-bike. The key to making it work was using a BMX with a wider axle that foot pegs screw onto. This let me put a spacer on and then the mounting plate. That way my motor leaned in a bit, and lined up perfectly. I've since upgraded it from 24v to 36v, and changed the heavy lead batteries for lithium.
@DD-np4ch
@DD-np4ch 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever gotten your hands on a himiway ebike? Seems like a decent deal for 1399, also a guy named Bolton ebikes
@maryblaylock6545
@maryblaylock6545 4 жыл бұрын
To wait that long for parts, get the parts, attempt to put it together, oh crud! Not my idea of a good time and I'm pretty certain that it isn't your's either! I do very much appreciate your honesty. I hope to do a bike conversion this year. Best of luck and stay healthy!
@CM-1723
@CM-1723 10 ай бұрын
I'm thinking about doing a bafang or tengsheng tsdz2b kit to my full suspension would the 250watt motors be enough for mountain biking
@sawyermartini9701
@sawyermartini9701 4 жыл бұрын
Hi mechanical engineering student with a whole lot of time here who has an old razor e200 scooter that’s now in parts. Why not build an electric bike out of these components? It seems like I could cost even less. Plus you could mound the motor on an already attached rack by screwing it to a piece of wood and running a long chain to the wheel. Have any suggestions to this plan? pls lmk!
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