well that answers all his questions ! problem is hardly anyone will bother reading your comment.... it's sad that the factory does this but not surprising.... at all are they doing it just so they can have years of cars out on the market to meet California's mandates ? who knows, but this covert BS needs to stop !

Built in telemetry on new Toyota's, hey? I don't want that. How do I disable that. Neither Toyota, my insurance company or anyone else should be getting that info.

Apparently not????

@Anthony do yes, many dealerships do. And/or they're installed before they ever leave the factory under contract with dealership/transpo when shipped to high risk areas. Basically all of Texas is high risk. Once you buy the vehicle, you do have the right to remove it. And depending on state, you may have to return it.

Downvote all clickbait

Sue the stealership

Yeah, and the one prick " Mike " (says he works at a Toyota Dealership) probably knows all about it. He's probably one of the higher up managers trying to keep this a secret. Know why ? Cause they're getting a shit ton of money from the insurance companies like State Farm. So what dealership do you work for Mikey ?...do you get your parts from Central Atlantic ??

My guess is that it is with your permission, buried in the 90 pages of documents people never read before signing.

it is

The thing is people assumed when they pull a car off the lot they own it. Until that last payment is paid it's not your vehicle. It's the bank. The banks require it before giving a loan. They want to know they can find the vehicle if you don't make a payment.

@@Odayian420 He paid Cash for the vehicle.

@@theshadowoftruth7561 it doesn't matter those things are installed when the cars come on to the lot. They don't necessarily have to remove them it probably would cost them more to remove it. Because they probably ordered these GPS trackers by the truckload.

Agreed. I had a similar feeling.

Were you, or are you, married to my former caught in the act adulterer?😊

😂 Me tooooooo

Yes, I am a lay person who likes to know things. Did know there was such a thing as an AG Battery. He is one smart fellow!

It's a old ,old idea I installed lots in Rvs for smart people !Called a isolater it leaves enough charge so it can be started after being parked and not started for awhile ! So u dont have a Braking bad no start Rv!

gmc dealer in kalamazoo years ago tried to raise the price on me when i had went home to get my checkbook. i had the price in writing that they gave me one hour before. i told them i was going to contact the state attorney generals office and the local tv station. that did the trick.

Thank you for telling me where to look for it. We were skillfully manipulated, and once I got home, I saw the GPS charge! Yeah, it's my fault I'll own it. Now gonna yank it out. Was told I had to activate it so they don't have to track it. I ain't pay a sub fee for it and F them for their psychological mind games. They got me good!!!. Been over ten years since we bought a vehicle. So was not aware of such shenanigans! Wow....!

From what i understand california is gonna make them standard on any new vehicle so they can track your mileage to charge you a road fee because they are forcing ev's and realized their gas tax revenue is dropping. Crazy

@jmistret419 Newsome pushing for 30 cents per mile tax, yeah and whoopi

When I bought a car I asked for copies of all the paperwork I signed and they refused. So I took out my phone and started taking pictures of it all. They weren't happy.

Came here to say the same thing lmao

Worked for one of those buy here pay here lots and can confirm. In my experience, typically they try to recover the GPS units after final payment as they usually went for $150 per unit. Entirely legal mind you. During purchase, the dealer will have the customer sign a "Disclosure agreement for GPS device" form. Strictly for vehicle monitoring in case of default of payments. I've had to travel to other states to help reposes cars, and am aware of other cars where the customer, with no intention of paying off the vehicle took it so far away, the cost to recovery would outweigh the cost lost after the down payment. It seems like a lot of people here take offense that the car they are paying for is being tracked and take it as a personal offense. As someone who's had access to the information relayed by GPS devices, trust me when I say that you, (the royal you) aren't important enough to want to monitor, it's just the car we care about.

I hear you ..... When I was much, much younger one of the very first jobs I had straight out of college was I went to work for a foreign brand new car dealership company that had just made its way into the United States and was trying to get a foothold into the American car buying market. Yes, you are right the things they say behind the scenes and how they try and maximize sales of their inventory in general is sometimes outrageous.

Bravo! You are a person with ethics.

Sometimes there is poetic justice! In 1994 I wanted to buy a new SUV (I lived in upstate New York at the time). I had narrowed it down to a Mitsubishi Montero and an Isuzu Trooper. I went to the Mitsubishi dealership and they had one that had essentially everything that I wanted. However, what they wanted to do was sell me a demo with 500-600 miles for list price. Effectively I would be subsidizing their use as a demo. When I objected I was told that it was their usual arrangement. Usual or not, I was not interested and left. My local Isuzu dealer didn’t have one remotely close to what I wanted and nothing showed up on their computer searches. So I started calling Isuzu shops in a 200 mile radius with the hope of finding a used one. Turned out that a dealer had a NEW one that was exactly what I wanted. They took the rebate at the time and the dealership owned the truck. When they did that it dropped out of the computer system. My local dealer made a swap and I became a happy Isuzu owner for the next 15 years. But, the poetic justice part: About a month into ownership, the Mitsubishi guy called and said that they could be a bit flexible with the pricing. He asked if I was still interested. I said no and that I had taken delivery on an Isuzu. He sounded so dejected and said “Oh…”. Made My Day!! Moral to the story: Watch ‘em!

Way to stick to your guns.

@@allanszast7579 I think its worse then we realize, my job has me in a enterprise rental its a 2023 limited ford expedition. I have been in this SUV for little over 2 months waiting on my company fleet car. SO during this enterprise has contacted me several times for service oil changes etc. Asking how they track it all assuming they had installed monitoring equipment guy said no the software on the car is designed to do this. Giving it is its own hotspot communicates that way.

​@@allanszast7579If you pay attention to the video Anthony was advised by his lawyer not to name the dealer to avoid the possibility of legal action by them. That's good advice for anybody.

Money talks, bs walks!

Same thing happened to me at a Toyota dealer. I bought a Corolla for my daughter and they tried to up sell me on an anti theft tracker “similar to low jack” for $500. I declined and they said it was already installed. I still declined so they said ok they would throw it in for free.

Nice idea but it is probably slow 3G and only works in North America. The car dealer doesn’t want to spend more than a dime necessary.

probably state sponsored..

@JasonBourne-hu1ox what is a kost carrier?

@@uberfine I think they meant most carriers. The US dumped 3g a few years ago. My current vehicle is no longer able to connect to the 3g cell network without purchasing a 4g module.

@@ballentphoto Lucky you, Toyota won't even sell me a 4G upgrade module for mine, at any price. All telematics are gone now.

Yes! Tag me when part 3 drops 👀

And it’s why Tesla sells almost exclusively direct. Some state laws require dealerships in the state to sell cars. I see a grift…

@@dlmyrs The original idea behind dealerships was to prevent the manufacturers from charging absurd prices for their cars as the sole source. Now we just have the dealerships doing that for them.

I'm so disappointed that it's not really an anti gravity battery.

@@dlmyrs They are the most tracked vehicles on the market as well.

@@markwarren3535 It's the power source coupler for his flux capacitor.

Me too! I am going to take a big burly car guy with me when I buy my next car.

how to tell if they're lying. their lips are moving

@@jdonbray the truth is not in them.

You got to think surely this is breaking some law?

@@francistaylor1822 Absolutely. But will the DA prosecute?

​@@trentvlakIt's Houston, a DA let a sch00l s#00ter walk

That is why I have referred to them as STEALERSHIPS for many years now.

Back in '07 I bought an Acura TSX 6MT new under very similar circumstances: buying for cash with my car coming straight off the trailer. One of the salesmen asked me to sign the invoice with all the usual charges (tax, title, license, selected options, etc.) itemized as narrowly as possible to bulk up the list to almost a full page - evidently they didn't expect me to actually read it because when I did I discovered a $200 "Showroom Prep Fee". I mentioned it to the salesman and pointed out since it's never going into the showroom, a showroom prep fee was unwarranted. It was telling to me how quickly he caved that that was a "mistake" and then went back to his manager to get it removed - no resistance whatsoever. I have no doubt that every car they sold had a "showroom prep fee" on the initial invoice regardless of circumstance (and even then, why should whether or not the dealer puts the car in the showroom have any bearing on its price?). It's just a tax for people who can't or won't scrutinize the paperwork or object. Pretty messed up. The screwy thing is otherwise it was actually one of the least sleazy dealerships I've dealt with. Not a high bar, admittedly.

@@andrewromig9753 This is why car dealers, even new car dealers, have a rep as lie-rs.

Car Dealer markups? Go buy a Harley. Car Dealerships don’t come close.

@@gh4121-b5n Harley’s? Lol. Nah that’s ok. I’m not an accountant LARPing as an outlaw

Lol ok.. don't need China. Your very own government hates you.

Nice to see someone else that follows Cy Porter. He's a very clever bloke. He's also got a good collection of caps and shirts by his local builders.

Cy is a quiet lion. 😆

That's actually a really good idea.

Or the big sticker every dealer puts on the trunk lid so everyone can read it.... so let everyone read it!!!!! 😉 😜

Cy rocks.

Honestly this is what I see happening too. We probably won't even see a third video because they ended up settling.

They would have to at LEAST give me the car for me to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

Many of the GPS is put on at the tote a note lots, for good reasons. Secondly many of the requests come from the banks lending the money, remember ultimately its their car. As for the preinstalled it happens as well because those are the general banks that dealership is accustomed to working with. I once walked into a dealership that my sales person had never seen over a 680 credit score. And then you have the dealerships that might have higher theft rates that keep these on the cars for lower insurance rates with the idea they can find/recover the car. I would also assume the GR would have the higher chance to be stolen much like SI's back in the day. Now that being said given my credit score, high down payment, proof of income, long employment and a decade + mortgage I have never had a GPS attached to my vehicle. But ive been to dealerships that did put GPS on vehicles, they checked the vehicle 2 times to verify they had removed the tracker as my bank did not want it. To the people removing them, make sure its not in the paperwork you agreed with the bank on.

@@hardtech1 My bank had nothing to do with buying my truck except giving me a one-time limit increase on my debit card. I find a tracker and it's mine. If I do find one, I'll probably put it under the tire at the very least

It's hard to bring the dealership to consequences, but it's worth doing

dealerships dont perform inspections on delivery?

@@ericmatteson8888 We inspect our vehicles yes and in two instances thus far have found air tags hidden and once found an ODB style tracker similar to the one in your video. We can't be certain there was a conspiracy to steal these cars, but we removed the trackers obviously since nobody needs to be tracking our cars.

Go back and read what @trentvlak says about people who work for dealerships.

Organized crime? You mean our government. They're the biggest organized crime group in the world.

come back and steal it for overseas travel maybe?

Common Sense today is a Super Power. 🦸‍♂️

BS. YES there are legitimate reasons, Lowlifes don't pay their car loans.

Me too! , Glenn Beck video said antigravity transportation will change everything. My car is 24 years old. Dread buying a new used one!

That is a brand I have never heard of until now. What state is that ?

Did he repirt the dealership to DA's office or Attorney General's?

@@soniag4516 it’s not in USA. But the maintenance garage was investigated by police and they followed the chain from the garage to the car theft gang and destroyed their vehicle disassembly factory.

For sure. That dealer is skimming all that data and making $$$$

Everything in every business is always about making as much money as possible from doing as little as possible.

I'm wondering if a government agency, FBI, CIA is involved. Possibly you got on one of the subversive lists, like speaking up at school meeting, your posts, any groups you like or belong too, what business you’re in, or trips you take, one of your acquaintances or friends, , or even possibly your church. I don't anything past them anymore.

Maybe the tracking the owner not necessarily the car???

@@waltermckinney606 I thought it was understood they are primarily tracking the owner not the car, the car tracking is probably just another side benefit. And if you are really , really paranoid, note these new cars that you can bluetooth in and connect to your phone through the car entertainment system, now they have a video feed and a sound feed that you have no way of knowing whether it is totally on or off or where that is going, do do do do, do do do do....

I see that you’re not familiar with AG Paxton.

looll the most corrupt AG in the country will probably ask for a bribe from Toyota to make this all go away.

An AG will never rule over a corporation in favor of a 'person'. It doesn't align with the financial interests of 'the state'.

​@@Poppi2006 I see you're not familiar with Paxton either..

If he has a smart lawyer he'll get other Toyota owners to join in and file a class action lawsuit.

Don't trust the government to protect your privacy! I'm a military veteran & was notified our VA health records were hacked. I worked for the US Census Bureau and our personnel records were hacked. There is no security in America thanx to politicians & other rampant criminals.

In my case, they probably installed it in someone else's car, which then became my car, without the dealer who sold it to me used knowing about it.

Right now almost 15k dealers can't use their computers. The company that sold the software to dealers to administrate and control a dealership has been hacked. The hackers are asking for millions of dollars. That company has said they're going to pay the ransom. But we'll see.

Genuinely, what's the rationale behind it then? Why add the expense to the dealer?

@@lukef7304 So they can know where their property is at all times until it's paid off. That way, if someone decides to stop paying on the car the dealer knows exactly where to go to for the repo. And you'd be surprised just how often it happens.

Witch brands you sell?

@@lukef7304 It's really just cheap insurance against someone not paying for the vehicle and stealing it. When the car is payed off, we removed the tracker. And the law concerning trackers is written in such a way that removing a tracker yourself is a direct attempt to steal the vehicle, and can be used in court as evidence against you. It cost $5 a month to monitor it. So yeah, really cheap insurance against theft. It saved MANY vehicles from being stolen. We even found one of the lots vehicles in a salvage yard. As well as helping us find one car that was straight up stolen off of the car lot!

Sounds like something China would love to have installed in its citizens cars, or maybe North Korea. People need to start t aking this kind of shit awhole lot more seriously.

​@@seananon4893besides China, all that data can be subpoenaed by the US government (local, state, federal) for almost any reason. China is a long way away and them knowing where my car is may be creepy, it's also a nebulous threat.... the US government.... that's closer to home.

The server does not know who the vehicle belongs to. You guys are just paranoid.

@@Tugela60 Wanna bet? If you have a VIN, the registered owner is only a few bytes away. How do you think the manufacturers send out all those recall notice cards?

@@NinerFourWhiskey You do know that airtime costs money right?

new cars get trackers installed. dealer inventory doesnt need customer approval before they even own something. people dont own things they are making payments on

These can disable and track your vehicle when you stop making the payments. It makes it easier for the repossession agent to recover it.

It is not that it was installed that would be illegal, it is if it was to be used nefariously.

@@Group_Anonymousnah, cars already have those systems in place from the factory, these trackers are being used for other purposes

​@Group_Anonymous These are only used to track dealer inventory. They are like $60 for individual units and lower when you buy in bulk. Sometimes dealers remove them when the car is purchased, sometimes they don't if it's a busy day for sales or service departments. He can put that sim card into an unlocked cell phone or tablet and see if it's active, most likely it's not active anymore.

And if they aint lying they are dreaming up new ones.

Any insight on WHY these dealers would install their own GPS?

@@aliannarodriguez1581 Yes. A third party company installs them at little to no cost to the dealer. The dealer tries to sell them with the vehicle for $499 or whatever along with the other crap they put on the sticker like under-body coating, window tint, locking lug nuts, fabric protection, or whatever other crap they think of. If they DO get the customer to pay anything towards it, they then pay that third party a small flat fee or a small percentage of the take. It's just another source of high mark-up crap they try to push so they can line their pockets. There is no other motive than that. They are not getting a better insurance rate because they can find cars stolen off their lot, or whatever other bullshit sales pitch points they tell you while trying to get you to pay.

Lol , only the government can violate a person's constitutional rights.

It's not a constitutional violation, but it amounts to trespassing and vandalism, both of which are crimes. Unsanctioned access and tampering with property. I'd look into whether Texas has laws covering illegal surveillance, which if it does, this would also qualify.

@@eirinym its also an invasion of privacy

@@WrenchS13you don’t have privacy. None of us do. The data brokers know more about you than you do.

@@eirinym "It's not a constitutional violation": If it isn't (yet), it should be!

Correct. He should sue them for a lot of damages. Set the case precedence.

Wrong, Toyota already collects & sells driving data to insurance companies through their Toyota app. This is literally a GPS tracker, that's all

More than that's all what is their intention

@@bkinnd If you let it, very simple to nullify that on a phone, but point taken.

My guess is consent is buried somewhere in the fine print of your purchase, your use of some manufacturer app or vehicle service. I'd be very surprised if they just threw it on thousands or millions of vehicles without consent and crossed their fingers that nobody ever finds it. I seem to remember one of our consumer protection agencies cracking down on the practice of forced consent in somewhat recent years. If this device is what everyone thinks this is, I hope it turns out badly for those responsible.

Me too. In my '93 MkIV.

I have them on 2 of my motorcycles and they are great

What if I told you most new cars come with a factory installed system that the manufacturers can see. Think on star. Ford sync and so on.

@@rodgersrcaviation2785 1) I don't buy fords 2) anything that goes farther than navigation I would disable. Also this is such a troll comment. The topic is about dealerships installing trackers in vehicles. So that the dealership has access to the Data

@@venomousninetails Not trying to to troll just making people aware. Gps tracking isn’t new. Manufacturers have had this ability since the early 2000s. Additionally I would like to ask are you the only one controlling your tracking data on the cell phone u tote everywhere. It’s being tracked even when u tell it not too

@@rodgersrcaviation2785 Perfect reason to not buy a new cloud connected car

Not everyone is paranoid. We live in a digital world. Get used to it.

Make it part of the lawsuit. 😂 _"Your honor. My client is asking for $4.5 million in punitive damages and... uhm... to shove the tracker up the dealers back door."_

Don't give it to the dealer, they'll just fit it in a different car.

no no no no no. It is physical evidence. The key thing is to not handle the SIM device without using gloves and to preserve it in a plastic baggie so that any fingerprints don't get removed.

Sue the manufacturer of the device for damaging your battery and car. Your lawyer can help you with that.

Yeah. Someone in the previous video said that a tech was doing exactly that - telling his buddies when an owner was gone from home, etc. If there's a way there is a criminal who will exploit it.

He probably likes egg roles more than his car.

​@@lawndogmoon2*egg roll, more proof that racist people are idiots

Where are all these racist comments people were talking about? I have not seen one. Are you crazy?

Stop it lowlife bigot!

I bought a used car from a dealer back in Dec 2019. I was going to be paying cash for the car, from an insurance settlement of my previous car which was totalled. The settlement was $8,200 and I was NOT going to finance any amount more on any car I bought. I spotted the car I wanted, it was listed at $6,995. I went to the dealer and asked for an out-the-door price. A few minutes later they came back with an OTD price of OVER $10K. I nearly fell on the floor laughing, They had a ton of bullshit addons and fees. I told them I had a payoff of $8,200 and if you can't sell me the car for THAT price, I'm done here.. They said they couldn't so I walked.. I'd barely gotten to my rental car and the salesmanager caught me and asked would I buy the car at $8,200 total? I said yes.. One of the bogus items on the car was this weird security thing. Since I wasn't paying the $495 for it, they could just remove it.. They refused, so the damn thing is still there, with me NOT paying the $49/mo service charge. What makes me mad is the fact that this bullshit device, I believe causes the car to start beeping the horn at odd times, and is VERY annoying when I stay in a motel and all the sudden, at 3am, the car starts beeping..

Go get ‘em! Civilly, of course they’ll settle out of court to save face but there should be criminal repercussions. I’d be interested in the stat attorney general’s take on the matter. I hope you’ve reached out to them as well.

Another of Bill Gates money-makers to finance DEPOPULATION.

No honestly they don't have a case at all it was determined that Banks as well as dealerships that deal with loans have a right to track their vehicles.

@@Odayian420he paid cash for the car, no bank involved. Try again buster

@@jonahkrompart it's not the bank that actually installs them they get installed on any car on the lot. It's faster and more economic for them not to pull the cheap made gps. When they buy and gross they probably pay maybe $10 per unit.

@@jonahkrompart Texas passed the law a while back and that they are able to put them on the cars. It was in the news but then some other BS happened and the News cycle changed. I remember seeing it on the news.

It started from the banks requiring the ability to track these vehicles that they are putting loans on. So car dealerships install it on any car when it comes on the lot. Most mechanics at a minimum make close to 30 an hour at a dealership. It just cost more to pull the cheap unit to pay somebody to do it then it is to leave it on. He didn't have to see the paperwork on it because he never went through the bank loan so it probably was not disclosed if it was it's probably in the fine print somewhere on the contract.

Hope so.

Letho's videos about car dealers selling data is exactly why this caught my attention...lol.

Think, government, and communist. Then add in GPS tracker auto disable, and climate change. Things will start to come together for you.

Go get that shit out

Dammit. I guess I better check my 23 Rav 4….

Why would they do this when they aren't getting paid for it??

@@per619 Who said they aren't getting paid for it? For all you know, the dealership gets paid by a data broker for every single one they put in a car because they can then turn around and sell that to insurance companies, possibly other buyers interested in the data. The data broker could even supply the hardware for free while the cost to install is probably less than $50 in labor. The fact that the dealership could also attach a service to it leveraging that same device and also charge the customer a premium for it is just gravy. The mobile network access is dirt cheap when purchased in bulk, it doesn't need to be high bandwidth, a device that checks in once per day and sends a couple KB data packet would more than do it, at the scale of tens or hundreds of thousands, a mobile provider like t-mobile would likely sell that sort of plan for just a few dollars per SIM per year, at $10 per year a few million cars is worth a pretty penny and won't impact their network. Mobile phone providers have been selling these kinds of mobile data access to manufacturers for years, any modern vehicle with GPS that can get OTA updates, or even just real-time traffic via navigation guaranteed has mobile connectivity and an active SIM, most manufacturers install it by default as it only costs them pennies but they services they can sell you or future owners are worth a fortune. Think about it this way... Under current state and federal laws, insurance companies doing this is tricky as it requires your consent, but if the insurance company is buying the data from a third party, they aren't infringing on any rights, they're just a customer themselves. Auto manufacturers could also be to blame here, they have wanted to do this very thing for years, selling the data directly to insurance companies, looking for a safe way to force that into a user agreement that any driver would be accepting by default, but, if they use a 3rd party provider where the manufacturer installs the dongle at the factory to every vehicle going to certain countries, they could get paid by the 3rd party to do so as well. If the insurance industry was smart, they'd get together and spin up their own privately owned 3rd party data brokerage company that was tasked with creating these deal partnerships with manufacturers and dealerships, paying them to install these devices and even allowing them to re-sell the device as a service to customers, while then collecting the data and selling that all back to the insurance companies, I mean they wouldn't even need to sell it directly to the insurance companies, they could sell it to a 3rd party underwriter who the insurance companies could contract, keeping them completely out of band as they would never have to touch the data, they just pay for a service. American corporations engage in this sort of sneaky side-stepping all the time. You know how you go to hotels in NYC or Vegas these days that have the mini-bar with the weight sensors on it which automatically charges you $8 for a water if you accidentally lift it? 99% of the time, you ask the hotel to remove it and they will say that they cannot because it isn't theirs, they use a 3rd party company that manages it and keeps it stocked. What they don't tell you is that the company they "outsource" it to, is actually owned by the same parent company that owns the hotel / hotel chain, and they also won't tell you that their cleaning room staff aren't actually employees of the hotel but instead are contractors who also work for that 3rd party, which is how those minibar systems get restocked. The only reason I found out the housekeeping being contractors part was because when I was told the systems are managed and restocked by a third party, I then asked why the hotel thought it was OK to allow a non-employees badged/keycard access to my guest room to restock that system, and then asked "who else who wasn't a hotel employee has total access to my room and therefore my personal property?", and he admitted that they outsourced their housekeeping to the same company, something which is very common. He would not admit that the hotel and 3rd party company were owned by the same parent company or affiliated in any way, but a simple google search proved that. This is the new America, corporations have the right to swindle as much out of you as possible, and when they don't, they'll just find a workaround.

As an installer of these units I’ve done this just to see. It doesn’t show much. It’s a receive only SIM card with no data The sim is only there to more accurately triangulate the location if it’s in a sketchy location. Say in a metal building or garage where gps doesn’t work.

@@rodgersrcaviation2785it can’t be a receive only sim, every cell device needs to both transmit and receive even just to get connected to the cell network. Plus if it really only receives data what is the point? It wouldn’t help them with tracking the vehicle which is why they install it in the first place.

@@rodgersrcaviation2785 The SIM card is used to connect to the cellular network so that the unit can report its position. GPS coordinates are useless for tracking if there is no way for the tracking device to tell anyone its position.

If it can't send the car's location, what use is it as a tracker? Are the movements of the car stored locally for a dealer to read later?

Exactly!

Auto dealers nothing but sleasebag crooks from the beginning. Not happy making a fair profit, lie and steal from customers. Delivery , set up, detail, tax, inspection, showroom prep, say nothing about maintenance and repair scams.

Along with fahrenheit 451 no?😊

Still bummed that it is no longer 1884 sheepie?

These are in other makes of vehicles as well. Found one in my 2017 GMC.

Outrageous.😡

The problem with all of these dealers doing this is that once the car is sold, they don't have a claim to it. The bank actually owns the car, so I would question the bank.

I’m amazed at the high amount of people that lack common sense.

"If it isn't done in the first min then it's too long." That's what she said

They are right. If you want followers then get to the point. If they have to do the searching they will scroll past these videos due to the trouble. People want instant satisfaction, and even that takes too long.😞

@@ihatehandleshowaboutyou What's he need a bunch of random non car enthusiast followers for if they aren't going to watch any videos past these GPS ones? There is no point in catering to them.

@@ihatehandleshowaboutyou If someone can't do their due diligence to get informed completely on a situation because a video is too long, those are the people you sure as heck DON'T want watching your content. Period.

@@DonCurrier She never says that.

I doubt a cell phone could drain a car battery 😂

Yes indeed

thats when you tell them see ya, not buying it form you.

@@leftyo9589yep

As long as u don’t miss a payment they prob won’t ever know u removed it. But if they look and see it’s gone it may be an issue. Depends on how your contract was worded.

Additionally. Where there is one there is normally two. I’m an installer of these units. Normally a wired in one is installed for u to find. And an additional fully standalone(wireless). Unit is installed also. Will be a black box A little bigger than a pack of cigs. Hidden much much better than the first unit. You can hide them anywhere in the vehicle. They fall behind panels and under consoles so well they become impossible to find if u don’t know they there.

With the 500 buck plus fee they charged u. I’m almost certain both went in. The wired and wireless units only cost 100-125 dollars each. So 2 units is 250 max 100% mark up makes it 500. And it’s a 100 to install them both the math says u probably still being tracked man. Sorry for the news

Their jump packs are shit. After a couple years of only being used to charge small devices I found mine to have swollen and cracked the case. If 15# makes that much difference in your car's performance go on a diet and take a good dump before you race.

Definitely spiked my interest in them. I thought he saw Agm on a battery and said anti gravity. Didn’t even know they exhausted lol

That is a lot of trouble just to say "I would never, ever buy anything from them again." Why not just say it without the extra steps?

Technically the bank that floors their inventory owns the car...not the dealer.

Wrong in this case. The car was never on the dealer's lot or in its inventory and the buyer was present the day it was delivered to the dealer. Whatever is going on here, the dealer needs to volunteer the truth about it right up front before the purchase is made. The fact that this is being hidden from the buyer and that the dealer is obviously lying when confronted about it are huge red flags that the dealer realizes buyers would NOT want to have this installed if given the choice. There is no good excuse for this and it needs to stop. NOW.

@@paulm749 The car was on the lot. They are required to do "predelivery inspections" to make sure wheels are bolted on, wash it, peel off the shipping martials, install loose items, inspect for damage, stuff like that before it is sold. The truck delivered it to the dealer and most likely the dealer ordered it and at this point it's not paid in full yet. Now perhaps knowing that the dealer had this car on the way it's possible that he agreed to buy it. But it's very rare that the customer has ordered it AND purchases it in full before it was delivered. The only time that usually happens is for fleet companies and such. But you can also have "courtesy" deliveries and that's when you buy the car outright and the factory ships the car to a dealer you request it sent to. In that case the dealer does not even order the car.

@@davestevens4193 That's assuming the dealership uses a bank for that. Most do. But many don't and actually own the inventory.

I call bullshit.

did you find one? i am gonna check mine... kia

I found one in my car a couple of months ago completely by accident. I was installing a dash cam and I wanted it to have power only when the car is 'on', and my 12v power ports (which used to be called cigar lighters) are always on. I got a piggyback fuse holder (add a circuit) and took the kick panel off to expose the fuse box, and I saw an object in there that did not look right, held in place by two zip ties and wired into the fuse box (just had the positive lead wrapped around one fuse leg before the fuse was crammed back in). Not even up to the standard of the job I was about to do! I removed it and looked it up (Passtime Trax 6A) and it is indeed a gps tracker intended for dealers to use on customer cars. I bought my car outright, for cash as they say (even though there was no actual paper involved), so the dealer has no more interest in this car. I bet it was installed by the original dealer when it was new, not the used car dealer I bought it from.

Should've got a small power source and FedEx to Russia.

@@kennethboyer2338 my first thoughts were “wonder if there is a way the SIM card to used run up a bunch of fees for whoever installed it?”

@@kennethboyer2338 North Korea would disagree with you.

Yea, and communist governments love to have absolute control over its people.

Meghan Trainor even made a song about it. 😂

You’re being naive.. They are cooperating with law enforcement of course..

When you finance the car, you are actually not the owner until you have paid off the loan and the lender has a security interest in the car such that you would not be able to remove the gps tracker/kill switch without that lender/owner's permission.

He said he paid for the car, no loan. ​@@Group_Anonymous

​@@Group_Anonymoushe paid in full.

@JasonBourne-hu1oxHOW do they do it?

You on a watch list somewhere?

Possibly installed becoming you paid cash.

I'm wondering if a government agency, FBI, CIA is involved. Possibly you got on one of the subversive lists, like speaking up at school meeting, your posts, any groups you like or belong too, what business you’re in, or trips you take, one of your acquaintances or friends, , or even possibly your church. I don't anything past them anymore.

Take it out, glue a magnet to it, and leave it underneath any random railroad freight car. Let them track -that-.

Apparently you were so mad you forgot where the return key on your keyboard was! 😮

Good thing GR Corollas only come in manual 👍🏼