Doctor Analyzes South Park Is Gay (Metrosexuals & Homophobia)

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Doctor Elliott

Doctor Elliott

Ай бұрын

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This Doctor Reacts video is especially for Pride as we watch South Parj is Gay which was all about the metrosexual fad of the early 2000s. We get to explore different aspects of gay culture and reflect on the importance of safe queer spaces and of Pride.
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@drdankenstein1753
@drdankenstein1753 Ай бұрын
According to the commentary for this episode given by Trey and Matt, the whole reason for the Crab People existing is litterally because they were completely out of ideas and had no idea how to complete the episode.
@hellmad
@hellmad Ай бұрын
Yea you can tell when it hard turns from societal commentary into absurdist humor
@QueenCloveroftheice
@QueenCloveroftheice Ай бұрын
I’m so glad because the crab people are one of my favorite bits
@Jar0fMay0
@Jar0fMay0 Ай бұрын
The episode where they become reporters for the school news shows what happened. “I think we can do a little better than Crab People”
@IfYouSeekCaveman
@IfYouSeekCaveman Ай бұрын
Yup, and ever since this episode, Matt & Trey use "Crab People?" as a shorthand to mean "Should we bail on this and do a dumb ending?" I think their philosophy is that if you can't come up with a good ending, it's better to do a dumb ending than a bad one. I tend to agree.
@mangantasy289
@mangantasy289 Ай бұрын
lol, I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing
@Tconlon251_2
@Tconlon251_2 Ай бұрын
The crab people reveal was meant to be a placeholder but Matt & Trey couldn’t come up with a better idea for the twist
@Mr26muel
@Mr26muel Ай бұрын
Crab people is a nod to conspiracy theories about queer representation turning people gay as a plan to eradicate humanity, it just went over most people's head.
@lucasdolding6924
@lucasdolding6924 Ай бұрын
The crab people is just pure silliness, Matt and Trey don't like it in retrospect but I love when it just goes so silly and crazy and the crab people are pretty iconic. A good follow up to this one would be The Cissy which is more relevant now than when it aired back in 2014.
@maxwelljacob3002
@maxwelljacob3002 Ай бұрын
I love your South Park reactions. You always have really great insight. If you haven’t seen it, the South Park episode The F Word is one to look into, as it relates to the way language and slurs morph over time. Don’t over think the crab people. The writers have said it was their biggest cop out in terms of ending a storyline.
@cassandraj1822
@cassandraj1822 Ай бұрын
I’m lesbian and ever since my sister got a gay friend at work she walks into my apartment and announces “what’s up f*****?” Because that’s how her friend greets his friends. I know she has no ill intention but sometimes I wonder if I should tell her to be careful. I don’t even say the f word.
@JJ-xs9me
@JJ-xs9me Ай бұрын
Just tell your sister that you’re not comfortable being called that. She’ll understand that certain words can affect people differently.
@alabastercalhoun
@alabastercalhoun Ай бұрын
Hey I’m bi and I’m okay with some close friends call me gay slurs, just tell her you are uncomfortable with that word and ask her not to use it around you.
@Scuor2
@Scuor2 Ай бұрын
Context is everything. I know people who would never say these words but have some odd beliefs around LGBTQ validity. If she's more at ease but also will still have your back that's what counts. I'm guessing her friend is pretty fem probably uses the b word a lot maybe even the c. It all gets very convoluted but if there trust and no power plays going on 🤷‍♀️
@Kyrikrliy
@Kyrikrliy Ай бұрын
It's really easy to accidentally hurt someone with words like that, i think she should maybe be a bit more careful with using them...
@alecrechtiene558
@alecrechtiene558 Ай бұрын
The “Put it down” episode is also great, where Tweek and Craig are working through a legit issue.
@cartertoro3902
@cartertoro3902 Ай бұрын
I mean this phenomena of straight men being "metrosexual" still has discourse today. Though now its more aimed at wanting a "bi looking man or nb" which mostly just means well dressed 🤣
@Hecarim420
@Hecarim420 19 күн бұрын
It's more about esthetic in the end
@throwaway3227
@throwaway3227 Ай бұрын
Speaking of reclaiming the word, you should take a look at the South Park episode "The F Word".
@hunterivey
@hunterivey Ай бұрын
I said the same thing, that episode is hilarious
@genegray9895
@genegray9895 Ай бұрын
I grew up with South Park, watched every episode as it aired since I was just a couple years old. People have been saying it's an offensive show for decades, one that "gets away with it" by "making fun of everyone". I'm so grateful to content creators like you reacting to this show and explaining to people that it was never offensive - it was subversive. It uses offensive language and ideas to communicate insightful truths about society. I've held very liberal views since I was a child, many of which were not accepted until more than a decade later, and I credit South Park with instilling that perspective in me. It's a fantastic work of social commentary that continues to pay dividends into the present day and I'm so incredibly grateful to see people finally recognizing the show for what it is and granting it a larger, wiser audience than it's ever had before.
@ItsOkayToBeThis
@ItsOkayToBeThis Ай бұрын
I have tried my best to like South Park because most of my friends really loved the show and I just appeared to be a hater, but now I'm at the point where I don't hold negative opinions in my mind of people who love the show yet I still just can't stand it. Now that I know I have autism at 34 years old I'm going to try and give it another try because I genuinely don't like to dislike things. This is my Mt Everest 😂
@genegray9895
@genegray9895 Ай бұрын
@@ItsOkayToBeThis a lot of the episodes make references to very recent (at the time) news stories and I think a lot of the humor is lost if you didn't watch these as they were coming out. Plenty of episodes aren't as grounded in their moment in time but enough of them are that I imagine it makes it harder to get into. Has that been your experience?
@ItsOkayToBeThis
@ItsOkayToBeThis Ай бұрын
@genegray9895 It might be? I'm not exactly sure. I over empathize I think quite often and I'm thinking maybe that's holding me back a lot from enjoying media that imitates anyone with a disability or a minority comedically and sometimes I just don't understand why it's funny although I have been able to deduce that there are nuances that I'm missing. It's mostly stuff like that just stemming from me growing up in my own head having to figure out society without any help and I think with shows like South Park it goes against everything I've taught myself. The one thing I do know is that almost everyone I have met that likes South Park is very nice so there must be a flaw in my reasoning that I am determined to figure out 😅.
@genegray9895
@genegray9895 Ай бұрын
@@ItsOkayToBeThis Good news, South Park will clearly articulate its argument for why its representation of disability is respectful - it's one of the points they make in several episodes. But I'll spare you the suspense. Their basic argument is that it's better to show disabled people on screen than erase them from media for fear of being offensive, and while the disabilities of the characters are always present in the show, the other kids never mock them. They're just treated like any other kid, the disability being a part of themselves but not their defining characteristic. Both Timmy and Jimmy have a lot of hilarious episodes that aren't really about their disabilities whatsoever. They're real characters, and the humor is never at their expense. I think that's a general theme with South Park tbh - they seem offensive at first brush because they're crass and obscene, but the actual substance of their stories, their messaging, is very progressive and ahead of its time.
@ItsOkayToBeThis
@ItsOkayToBeThis Ай бұрын
@@genegray9895Oh thank you. I will keep that in mind when I watch it because that actually does help me out quite a bit ^^ any clues as to what I'm supposed to pick up on is great.
@Squashylemon
@Squashylemon Ай бұрын
It's kind of sad how quickly we forget things. Every decade, every generation, every child or adult has their own time where they experience something that they feel is important and yet due to our limited life span and how we have evolved we forget those important moments, or they get overtaken by future moments that distract us. Youth is such a wonderful experience because we don't have to pay attention to the good moments or important moments, we can simply just live in those moments without worrying if we will lose them mentally later on as we age. South Park reminds me a lot of those lost moments or important moments because of the humor and the fact that when I watch it I don't have to pay attention to the moment I can just experience it without the weighted pressure of needing to try and realize I'm enjoying that moment I can simply just be.
@hoathanatos6179
@hoathanatos6179 Ай бұрын
Catamites were the Roman version of the Greek eromenoi, teenage boys who took on older male lovers in a pederast relationship. Craig is saying that he's into older men, basically.
@blaketindle4703
@blaketindle4703 Ай бұрын
Talking about the importance of gay bars being a safe place for gays reminds me of another South Park episode you definitely should see, season 11 episode 6 “D-Yikes!” Also would really appreciate your opinion on season 13 episode 12 “The F Word”. GLAD criticized the episode but from what I’ve read online most gay people seem to like it.
@Grigsy
@Grigsy Ай бұрын
I’m so autistic, i never realized you were apart of the lbgtq community until these past few episodes.
@macdaddy1376
@macdaddy1376 Ай бұрын
The voice didn't give it away?
@bethanyboarder7751
@bethanyboarder7751 Ай бұрын
oh my god same lmao. You actually have ASD? I do lol
@whiteeye3453
@whiteeye3453 14 күн бұрын
And ignorant on top of that
@Workingpour
@Workingpour Ай бұрын
Im suprised you havent done the simpsons "gay episode" with john waters and how the only thing he had suggested was taking out the F slur for queer.
@DenderFriend
@DenderFriend Ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for when you react to Craig and Tweek's relationship!
@cobracommander8133
@cobracommander8133 Ай бұрын
"You're a gay guy that likes women" - How my friends described me in high-school in the 90s 😂😂
@badoli1074
@badoli1074 Ай бұрын
Is being hairy now considered "unclean"...?
@noviembre.rz1
@noviembre.rz1 Ай бұрын
what do you mean "now"? shaving goes back to at least 3000 BC
@FoultonOfficial
@FoultonOfficial Ай бұрын
It all comes down to personal preference.
@MazzieMay
@MazzieMay Ай бұрын
I understand the pop-slang language pipeline to be AAVE > gay circles and clubs > white women > anybody else Where does “stealing” become “normalizing”, when mainstream ≠ acceptance. I’m seeing a lot of discussion around straight or straight presenting couples using “partner” to refer to one another, and it being another example of LGBT+ culture being co-opted But isn’t normalizing such a gender-neutral term a positive? I feel so dumb when I can’t really see the issue
@christiansebastianlauritse2404
@christiansebastianlauritse2404 Ай бұрын
It's normalising if it's done to normalise. Like calling your opposite-gender partner for your partner og spouse - that normalises same-gender relationships. If you're using things because you like them and think they make YOU sound cool, then it's not cool. To some degree there has always been a cultural excange of things, and that will continue to happen - that is fine - we should just be mindfull of WHY we do it. Every morning when I wake up i put on a beautiful Japaneese kimono that i bought on a trip to Japan - it's that nicest thing you'll ever have touch your skin (maybe except Tom Holland - one imagines), and i genuinly adore this. I'm not wearing it to look cool and more importantly - no Japanese person was ever opressed because of their kimonos. That's the distinction. A southern black BBQ, we are welcome to cook as white people. Tight cornrows in white people - NO. Black hair and their styles were used as tool for opression. The language was used as tools for opression. BBQ wasn't. Make sense? :)
@thegreenmanofnorwich
@thegreenmanofnorwich Ай бұрын
Apparently, some straight guys won't wash their bumholes in case it's gay. I was never a fashion gay, though I had my semi-cute and even occasionally sexy moments, but the sheer amount of time and energy (and money that I definitely didn't have) that keeping up with fads during the early 00s required was absurd. Living kink life is tough, unfortunately.
@thegreenmanofnorwich
@thegreenmanofnorwich Ай бұрын
@@BarryStanton1488 I had one when I was growing up in Surrey, but we almost never used it. I think it came with the house.
@NobodyC13
@NobodyC13 Ай бұрын
Mr. Garrison's frustration over straight men co-opting all of the worst stereotypes of homosexuality came from a conversation Matt Stone and Trey Parker had with friend and Team America: World Police producer Scott Ruden, who himself is gay and hated that Queer Eye For The Straight Guy was reenforcing gay stereotypes that homosexuals were so desperate to discourage. So the episode's plot (aside from the Crab People twist, which Matt and Trey hated) was completely inspired by a gay man.
@dcworld4349
@dcworld4349 2 күн бұрын
If they hated it why did they go with it? It's not like South park is afraid to do very random bizarre things. Making things like Moses being a Tron character. Is it just a gag for the sake of it, or a reference I'm missing?
@NobodyC13
@NobodyC13 2 күн бұрын
@@dcworld4349 They hated the crab people idea because it was meant to be a placeholder for something better, and they couldn't think up a better one and it ended up being in the final product. Remember, every episode is made in a week because Matt and Trey like the tight deadline to get their creative juices flowing (and it's how they are able to be timely with the news). However, productions during 2003 and 2004 (when this episode was made) felt like the worst for them because they were also working on Team America, and were suffering writer's block from the exhaustion (which they referenced on Quest for Ratings).
@dcworld4349
@dcworld4349 2 күн бұрын
@@NobodyC13 I see thanks for the history lesson I've followed a lot of it but some things always falls through the cracks.
@AlanTuringWannabe
@AlanTuringWannabe Ай бұрын
His reaction to crab people was great. Such a weird twist. I love South Park
@shanwild1096
@shanwild1096 Ай бұрын
I love these South Park analysis episodes, so good. Please delve into Tweek x Craig soon, it's one of my favourite episodes 😊
@Rose_Blue87
@Rose_Blue87 Ай бұрын
I'm 36 and when I grew up gay was used as a slur especially in school, when I started to doubt my sexuality I kind of decided that I wasn't going to be like that because I was terrified of being bullied again. I really hope that its better these days for all kids
@devyndday
@devyndday Ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video as always and also loved seeing Gottmik behind you!
@Waxeler
@Waxeler Ай бұрын
Southpark and you is just a banger. Thanks for the reaction.
@thegreen2504
@thegreen2504 Ай бұрын
It makes me happy to see there are mental health professionals with your level of compassion understanding and dedication to being a value to others. Thank you for the work you've done, those in the criminal justice system are truly often the "least of these" and so neglected. Thank you for inspiring me to be better.
@FTZPLTC
@FTZPLTC Ай бұрын
Kinda funny watching this, knowing you're going to be agreeing with Mr Garrison. =)
@josepina7163
@josepina7163 Ай бұрын
14:47 As a straight Latino man, we don't get offended if people wear Mexican garments like ponchos, Sombreros, or even dress up like us if they look a little cholo. We see it as them acknowledging our culture. Unfortunately, we are not fond of using the term "Latinx". With the PC movement insuing, it feel like more a take away or insult on our ethnic background. We would rather keep being called Latinos
@mariamerigold
@mariamerigold Ай бұрын
It absolutely cracks me up that you watch South Park 😂 what a legendary show
@isabellarocks1000
@isabellarocks1000 Ай бұрын
The safe space is the thing that always confused me. If acceptance is the goal why distance yourself from people that are accepting of it...
@zentec010
@zentec010 Ай бұрын
Thats why I love South Park they usually have a serious message in all there episodes more than just being silly. I tried explaining an episode to my friend "With Apologizes to Jessee Jackson" and she wouldn't watch it. I told her the whole thing has an important message, but you won't get it until you see the last minute. Sure, it dropped the N word way too much, but I had to make sure a someone I didn't want to get into a fight with watched it and it actually put a spark in his mind of not being ignorant even though he though he wasn't.
@VeinyWombat
@VeinyWombat Ай бұрын
Well I'm a straight woman, but my partner is NB and bi, so I can't help anyone with rather straight men shave and wash their bodies well, all I can say is my partner does. He's also not feminine at all. Boxes and stereotypes are weird.
@christiansebastianlauritse2404
@christiansebastianlauritse2404 Ай бұрын
If you're a woman in a relationship with someone who is not a man, you, my dear, are not straight. Technically speaking. I have the same problem with my "box". I always clled myself a gay man, knowing full well that I also liked androgeny, but it wasn't till I started seeing a NB who told me: "You do realise, you're actually misgendering me every time you call yourself Gay, right?" that it even occured to me. Now i call myself bi, if it matters and take the time to explain it - other wise i still just go by gay. People often ask: What's the difference between "bi" and "pan?". To me: THIS! I am not attracted to women, so i can't be pan, but i AM attracted to more than one gender. I know "bi" means two, so i think we should start using to mean NB+1, and if gender is irrelevent (old fashioned bi), then it's pan. Unless i'm mistaken, that would mean you're a bi woman in a relationship with a pan NB? :)
@CrisSelene
@CrisSelene Ай бұрын
I just discovered your channel and I love your South Park reactions. I've binge watched them in a day. I love all the analysis and information you can get from a show that is sometimes seen as ridiculous (not by me, I think their satire touches serious topics very often)
@Spotless_World
@Spotless_World Ай бұрын
I LOOOOOVE IT WHEN YOU COVER SOUTH PARK !!! You're awesome💗
@Trux2010
@Trux2010 Ай бұрын
How about safe spaces for women?
@inkchariot6147
@inkchariot6147 Ай бұрын
*(Invincible title card) THE KITCHEN*
@dwarfbunni
@dwarfbunni 18 күн бұрын
when i saw you analyzed this episode i clicked on it just to see your reaction to the crab people part xDD
@Charles-js3ri
@Charles-js3ri Ай бұрын
I remember when I first saw this episode. About half of it went right over my head. Hahaha. I was a smidge too you to be watching south park.
@annadownya7754
@annadownya7754 Ай бұрын
10:36 in the safe queer spaces, this is brought up in crazy ex GF nathaniel and white josh go to a gay bar and white josh unleashes an epic rant about straight chicks at gay bars. Then they sing "fit, hot guys have problems too" which i guarantee you would probably like.
@mariamerigold
@mariamerigold Ай бұрын
Omg yes, I love this video so much!
@berf9445
@berf9445 Ай бұрын
That was a very funny episode!
@theotakux5959
@theotakux5959 17 күн бұрын
Well, a previous episode established that only gay people can say that particular 'f' word without being bleeped, so perhaps that was just foreshadowing Craig being gay in later seasons.
@droxina
@droxina Ай бұрын
What do we make of Dr Carthy wearing a basic white shirt for this episode?
@cuteandfluffypikachu3405
@cuteandfluffypikachu3405 Ай бұрын
Oooo Timmy was the best part 🤣😂😂😂😂
@jennyb4543
@jennyb4543 Ай бұрын
Being a young teen in the 90s, I thought metros were actually gay people who used the term to start coming out of the closet. I recently came out as bi (been questioning since a young teen but repressed everything because of how I was raised so pretty much lived an outwardly cis life) but so many people told me they had a feeling based on my general mannerisms, like the way I sit or always wearing shorts under skirts/ dresses or because I'm not "ladylike" (I'm not a "tomboy" either). To be fair, I have seen some "If you do ___, you are bi" memes and I usually do whatever the blank space is, so maybe there are some subconscious Traits that can be viewed as stereotypes. Idk, just random thoughts before my morning coffee. 😅
@danielklotz3689
@danielklotz3689 Ай бұрын
Have you seen the movie split? I think it’d be fun content on here. Such a great movie 😊
@Hawkeye9165
@Hawkeye9165 Ай бұрын
Gotta love south park. There's always something interesting to me how animation can get away with screaming about societal prejudice in a way that 'real' shows can struggle with. As always, hearts to Elliott, really appreciate the time and effort you put in to make your videos.
@jennyb4543
@jennyb4543 Ай бұрын
Metro isn't a new idea. When Sweeney Todd came out, I Googled Fop, and it pretty much said that was the old definition of metrosexual
@tenpenthouse
@tenpenthouse Ай бұрын
Seeing Carson in this, and then watching him on Roscoe's last week - just a legend ♥♥
@kevinmcqueenie7420
@kevinmcqueenie7420 Ай бұрын
While it might not have any real influence now, there was a form of slang begun by gay people in London in the 19th C, called Polari. Useful to have your own slang when your lifestyle is illegal. There are one or two interesting videos on it on this very site.
@el-violador
@el-violador Ай бұрын
Perhaps the episode "Death Camp of Tolerance" would be a fun watch for you after this one
@missnandor
@missnandor Ай бұрын
A wholesome follow up would be Tweek x Craig (s19e6) - the coming out episode.
@AjayMomma
@AjayMomma Ай бұрын
On the topic of clean.. I forgot where I saw it, maybe The Click reading the dredges of Reddit, but you can find posts from doctors/nurses saying that cis-men are usually their least clean patients when it comes to hygiene. Others do better, to include gay men.
@hectorlagos8937
@hectorlagos8937 Ай бұрын
please do the episode called "Tssst", is where the dog whisperer "cures" Cartman 😂
@quidquopro1185
@quidquopro1185 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, that episode is awesome!
@stonesia1
@stonesia1 Ай бұрын
8:22 Funny enough this etymology was a topic in the S13E12 The F Word and how that word has come to mean something else due to plain overuse.
@MrKeeganimal
@MrKeeganimal Ай бұрын
I was watching this thinking "wow some of this was really surface level looking back....but Kenny looks incredible" 😂😂
@MichaelJtheMentalist
@MichaelJtheMentalist Ай бұрын
Fantastic episode, thanks for the upload! 14:58-15:07 correct
@FromThe36thChamber
@FromThe36thChamber 10 күн бұрын
3:17 that not in my face shit is so true
@crovax1375
@crovax1375 Ай бұрын
If you're looking more episodes to react to, the Futurama episode The Sting is definitely worth watching! But of course, it was crab people!
@jamesupton5601
@jamesupton5601 Ай бұрын
..Next week, St. Patricks day and made up Irish ancestries! (South-Park is catnip for my ADHD by the way)
@alabastercalhoun
@alabastercalhoun Ай бұрын
In the commentary I think they mention that ether a staffer or a writer who is gay talked about his or her issues with the meterosexual stuff and how they were taking gay culture.
@marcwright8395
@marcwright8395 21 күн бұрын
5:58 the only thing i can think of, is there's an episode of Seinfeld where Jerry and George and mistaken for gay, and people assume Jerry is gay because hes neat and tidy etc, its a funny episode, but take it with a grain of salt being '90s Sitcom etc
@laurenflowerslament
@laurenflowerslament Ай бұрын
is this craig's origin story as a mean gay? I hope so!
@MarkGuerrero-cz9bh
@MarkGuerrero-cz9bh Ай бұрын
You should check out the Star Trek Deep Space Nine episode “Its only a paper moon” Its the episode that solidified DS9 as my favorite Trek series Its a great episode about PTSD
@atomiccrouton
@atomiccrouton Ай бұрын
I'm so happy you brought up that our culture was borrowed from black trans women. It's so commonly left out in these discussions.
@whiteeye3453
@whiteeye3453 14 күн бұрын
Too bad most of these including idea that " trans created lgbt" is nonsense
@bekinder56
@bekinder56 5 күн бұрын
Do you remember the Channel 4 show Metrosexuality from like 2001? Would love to see a reaction video to this
@AndyHoward
@AndyHoward Ай бұрын
Yes Craig later comes out as gay in Craig x Tweek
@allm5542
@allm5542 Ай бұрын
Dr Elliott has been an inspiration and a great content creator from whom I have learned a lot. Nevertheless, I have quite a few points to disagree with him on this video. 1) Queer spaces being safe spaces for queer people. When he points out that straight people can be allowed in those spaces, that sounds awesome. Nevertheless, he considers that straight men shouldn't be allowed to hit on straight women there: that would weaken the purpose of the place to begin with, because that wouldn't be a safe space for gay people and straight women anymore. It is as if being a straight man and behaving in a certain legal and moral way would hurt both gay people and straight women. But women doing that wouldn't have the same effect. 🤔 2) That takes me to the next thing, which is women tend to be more accepting of straight men in queer spaces in my experience. Why wouldn't men be able to act ethically and still try to have fun in those spaces where he is... Welcome? I don't know anymore. And can women hit on straight men there too? 3) There are certain biases and prejudice attached to being from a certain group. I'm not naive: I know what biases are attached to straight men that helps create that judgment I pointed out on number two. Now, it takes me to the cleanliness, narcissism, elitism and so on attached to the gay community. There is a bias towards them regarding those terms: I agree. Can I jump to a similar conclusion (straight men hitting on straight women in queer spaces as something harmful because straight men are... sus?...) and regard the gay community as generally narcissistic, elitist and clean? That doesn't sound so good, does it? Nevertheless, in my area at least, gay people are well known to have female friends, sure, but most if not all of them are overly beautiful (and only them). Even a gay friend of mine agreed that gay men tend to look only for beautiful women as female friends. Am I saying every gay person is like that? Not at all! But... I would like to know others' takes on this. My point is: you have to agree that every bias has maybe some justification or no bias has any justification at all. Or is it that one prefers to applaud the biases that only affect other communities but the ones i identify with/highly regard? 4) Cultural appropriation is something that is usually used in places where that culture in particular can't speak for itself because no members of that culture are around. It is usually an attack thrown at people who know a little bit of it by somebody who doesn't know that much. Any Mexican in Mexico will tell you that an American/Brit etc. wearing a sombrero is cultural appreciation, a hommage, or maybe just cool. Latinos complaining about cultural appropriation? Sure, they are the ones who were grown in the culture that uses that term to begin with. You won't see any Japanese complaining about anime all over the world. They appreciate the appreciation
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 16 күн бұрын
8:00 I think this comes from the fact that culture always comes out of the socially orchestrated. Since they don’t fit into the status quo, their self expression is more natural by default, which makes it stand out. Since it stands out, it gets noticed and finds traction in outside circles from the original group. Which in turn makes it culture. This is why things that “blow up overnight” are always weird things. Since if they weren’t weird, they wouldn’t get noticed in the first place
@conors4430
@conors4430 16 күн бұрын
You make a very interesting point about safe spaces for queer culture and why it needs to be protected. Here in Sydney, we had lockout laws by a Conservative government, which basically shut down the red light district for nightclubbing etc. But what it did was send people who usually wouldn’t mix, with other groups into other suburbs. One of the suburbs was new town which historically is a very alternative kind of community in terms of music and cultures especially queer cultures. And what would you know. There was an uptick in confrontations between. Groups, in particular, confrontations by straight guys and the queer community. Because the straight guys could only see it as a bar or an area they wanted to drink in, and they wanted it to be what they wanted it to be. And they thought anybody who was queer was, killing their good time or being in their face. When they were the ones who literally decided to start going out in a predominant. Queer and alternative nightlife area. But it even involved into the usual jock morons picking on guys for having stretches in their ears because maybe they were hard-core or screamo fans. Just absolute high school bullshit.
@holysecret2
@holysecret2 Ай бұрын
I haven't been around that many people in my life in general, and probably as a result of that that I don't remember having homosexual people in my circle of friends or acquaintances for any length of time. While I'm a fervent believer in the "live and let live"-mentality, I struggle with coming to terms with overt, obviously ideological and incendiary homosexual or transsexual displays in media. Watching, reading, listening and talking and thinking about media is how I formed most of my philosophical and psychological understanding. That's including positive insight and knowledge (and acceptance) of homosexual and trans culture. That said, I find it distracting, sometimes even disturbing, to see regular old stories, such as Lord of the Rings for example, telling humanist, positive messages being lambasted and quite often actively ideologically attacked and subverted in the name of LGBT positivity. In my view, just like heterosexual people need to weed out the bad actors clinging to antagonist and suppressive mentalities and tactics on their side, so does the LGBT movement need to do the same. It's not okay to otherise, minimise, and even culturally appropriate established characters and IPs in an attempt to "gain ground" like it's some kind of warfare scenario. It's also not fair to hold centuries of grudges and oppression against me personally or the authors and creators I care about, no hurt you personally experienced justifies you (general you) hurting others in return. In my view, everyone needs to grow in acceptance and wisdom, storytellers should be allowed and incentivised to tell the stories they want, be they with gay, minority or female characters or not. I have my own personal challenges myself, which are partly the reason why I haven't met so many people. But for that reason I believe I can relate with the desire and the joy you feel when you are met with tolerance and acceptance. They are great and important qualities to have. But they should not be forced or intimidated. I have seen so much pain and damage caused by these social or economic pressures being put on people, studios, creators. While there is much left to be done, in some ways it has already come full circle, where people can be reverse-oppressed because they are white and straight, and that simply can't be the answer.
@dreamsinthree
@dreamsinthree Ай бұрын
"I'm half bisexual." 😂
@imalexlaven
@imalexlaven Ай бұрын
5:00 LMAO
@mikemath9508
@mikemath9508 Ай бұрын
April 11th never forget
@Argiopocalypse92
@Argiopocalypse92 Ай бұрын
As for the "is being clean gay?" question. I suppose straight guys can be seen as slobs, we're less likely to care about our appearance? Whether there's any truth to that, no idea. I assume that's where this comes from though. I know straight men who are clean and well-dressed, and I know gay men who aren't hyper-concerned with physical appearance and value being comfortable.
@isabellarocks1000
@isabellarocks1000 Ай бұрын
I haven't watched the reaction yet but I want to say. I am from America and I've lived in the UK for the past 2 years. A lot of Gay people in America are exactly like this south park episode. Over here in the UK people don't seem to be as flamboyant or in your face about it. I've been to Brighton and kept getting hit on by dudes that seemed totally straight to me and it blew my mind that they were not overly flamboyant. Also when I told the British people I was straight they respected that. In America they would call you homophobic for being straight when being hit on and not being interested in them. I'm excited to watch this reaction and I'm interested in seeing your perspectives.
@fibex-lx3io
@fibex-lx3io Ай бұрын
Can we do The Cissy next it's South Parks 18 th episode from the 18 th Season. The Cissy is the third episode of the eighteenth season of "South Park." The episode focuses on issues of gender identity and the treatment of transgender individuals. In the episode, Cartman claims he is transgender to gain access to the girls' bathroom at school, calling himself "Erica." The school, unsure how to handle the situation, decides to accommodate him by creating a special transgender bathroom, leading to a broader conversation about gender identity and rights. Meanwhile, Randy Marsh reveals his secret persona as the famous singer Lorde, which he uses to express his feminine side and cope with his mid-life crisis. His secret is accidentally revealed by his son, Stan, but instead of being ridiculed, Randy's alter ego is praised, highlighting society's evolving views on gender and identity. The episode uses humor to address serious and timely social issues, showcasing the complexities and challenges faced by transgender individuals in a comedic yet thought-provoking manner.
@whiteeye3453
@whiteeye3453 14 күн бұрын
Trans issue? Is that for real
@Pink-bow-blue-hat
@Pink-bow-blue-hat Ай бұрын
Would love to see you react to Hey Arnold! Season 4 episode 18, Helga on the Couch. Would love to see how a real psychiatrist reacts to Helga getting therapy on the show and how realistic the portrayal is. ❤
@troyallen2574
@troyallen2574 Ай бұрын
Anything that isn’t “toxicly masculine” has to be defended with this phrase “is it gay to …”. There is no more inbetween lol.
@hunterivey
@hunterivey Ай бұрын
Hey Dr. Elliot you should watch the episode The F-word, they changed the definition of the word, "F*g"
@poochyenajones1362
@poochyenajones1362 Ай бұрын
Taste like crab, talk like people.
@davelordy
@davelordy Ай бұрын
_"Doctor Analyzes to South Park Is Gay"_ No English.
@catherinejaddii828
@catherinejaddii828 Ай бұрын
He probably changed "reacts" to "analyzes" but didn't get rid of the "to".
@SrMise
@SrMise Ай бұрын
I think in this context, gay isn't necessarily seen as cleaner - but as being more into self-care. I also think if we went back to the original series, a lot of messy apartments, or long beards, uncut hair etc was really related more to depression than any sort of lax hygiene. But I dont think we started using those terms until the reboot.
@deepbluehue3
@deepbluehue3 6 күн бұрын
" Sooo Sept. 10th ..." ~ Crassly meaning olde school / a different era ...
@pigpjs
@pigpjs Ай бұрын
I had to teach my dad and my husband about using face moisturizer. They had both been taught that skin care was for women and gay men. So a lot of the lack of hygiene comes from toxic masculinity.
@FoultonOfficial
@FoultonOfficial Ай бұрын
Imagine thinking hygiene is a feminine trait lmao. Bisexual here, not super in depth with all the various skin care products, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna walk around looking like actual crap.
@marion0613_private
@marion0613_private Ай бұрын
As a straight person watching this video i have learnt lots , but I sense undertones of "us v them beliefs" . I think helping making LGBTQ issues aware to the public is great . A recommendation, take it or leave it. Lets not divide an already divided society.
@Metonymy1979
@Metonymy1979 Ай бұрын
I read that a girlfriend was talking to her boyfriend about showering properly because she was getting UTIs. He said that he doesn't wash his bum hole. That he let's the water wash down his back. That washing his bum is gay. He is a ex now.
@malayshamorgan3918
@malayshamorgan3918 Ай бұрын
By the way when Craig called himself a catamite, that means a young boy used for sex by a grown man
@michaelmccarthy4892
@michaelmccarthy4892 Ай бұрын
Randy in particular is suggestible, he's definitely the most suggestible out of everyone.
@sorenkazaren4659
@sorenkazaren4659 Ай бұрын
5:55 I think the “clean” thing that is associated with gay men is that it is “manly” to be a little dirty and all that. So I secretly suspect the whole clean thing is a jab at the whole gay men aren’t men thing. That’s just a guess though. 🤔
@teesh871
@teesh871 Ай бұрын
Dr elliot: 'do straight people have so little identity th' me: 'yes.'
@jayviescas7703
@jayviescas7703 Ай бұрын
We American LGBTQ+ have a lot to thank UK Queer folk for, mainly Camp. I didn't discover Polare until my 40s even though I'd watched Are You Being Served for years (still adore John Inman as Mr Humphries) and while in my late 20s watched The Naked Civil Servant with John Hurt doing a nearly flawless Quentin Crisp. Also Monty Python. So thanks! 😅🎉😂❤😊
@samikatto2851
@samikatto2851 Ай бұрын
i think people should think about their faults (to me these would be faults as they would be against my moral thinking/views) and understanding where they originate from. most important thing to do when trying to be less racist/homophobic is to understand where these thoughts came from. especially if the thoughts are emotion based and not just learned information wich is easier to discard. beign aware that there is something in the back of your head that can affect your thinking makes it easier to not fall to those feelings. i have had to unlearn alot of shit from childhood and from society in general. also alot of biases from my personal experiences.
@Jinxx9081
@Jinxx9081 Ай бұрын
I know what I’m about to say will be extremely controversial, but when he said “do the straights really have so little identity…” I was like, well nowadays it’s kinda become the norm to belittle specifically straight white men, and then they feel like their identity is bad or wrong in some way so they try to adopt another to stop feeling so miserable. Nobody wants to talk about it because every time it’s brought up people say in a sarcastic voice “oh those poor straight white men” but to be honest at this point I honestly would hate to be a straight white man in the current area since they seem to get blamed for everything wrong with the world and then have their own identity belittled only to then be made fun of for trying to latch on to other identities. Sorry for the tangent but that’s just how I’ve started seeing things lately.
@alabastercalhoun
@alabastercalhoun Ай бұрын
Jack and Karen are what made Will and Grace funny.
@drachior
@drachior Ай бұрын
Having a ton of beauty products and spending a great amount of time with polishing their looks outside the fitness studio is just not something straight men do nowadays. Still remember the shit my collegues gave me for tying a ponytail when i let my hair grow long, When i felt like painting my nails black as a grown straight guy, women scoffed at me, asking how old i think i am. When i bleached and manic panicked my hair orange for a month, strangers drove by me in their car to shout at me that red hair is gay. Or i was asked by macho men in muscle shirts if i knew that a guy like could get fucked if he waited in the bathroom stall for a minute. When i pierced both my ears, the reminder cards and invoices from my dentist were changed from Mr. to ms. without ever asking me. And i got a bouquet of flowers every time i got a new inlay from them. ... I'm into women and i'm a soft and quiet guy wearing old jeans and hoodies. And i always have a scraggly beard. Does changing your looks from the norm make you seem gay to everyone else? you tell me. PS: ... getting flowers is oddly nice, so i never complained. :D
@marywest1346
@marywest1346 Ай бұрын
Hey Doctor Elliott I love your videos and have been watching a long time You mentioned several times throughout this video about LGTBQ+ individuals being able to maintain their safe spaces. I agree with you, but I'm wondering what you think about women being able to keep their safe spaces such as locker rooms or women's league sports.
@TheStacanova
@TheStacanova Ай бұрын
This is a serious issue/question, so please, no one get too offended. I’m a straight man, so I acknowledge that this is an outside looking in perspective. This dramatic increase in the numbers of the LGBTQ community, especially in the “T” & “Gender”community goes way beyond any data we’ve previously had. Why would it suddenly increase tenfold? I don’t believe the surge can be explained simply by increased acceptance, social contagion, etc. alone. I have a hunch that many Cluster B’s are infiltrating the Gay community due to particular social advantages they can use and manipulate at this precise moment in time. Some also may be completely unaware themselves, to quote the renowned psychiatrist Hannibal Lecter “Billy hates his own identity and he thinks that makes him a Transsexual”. I think Gender Affirming care has removed some needed safeguards, that helped get people the appropriate help they needed and are currently allowing them to essentially self-diagnose. I’m not sure about the UK, but this seems to be an issue in the USA, where Doctors aren’t supposed to question their patients self-diagnosis, which is terribly concerning. There’s been far more incidents of behaviors & treatment of others that were extremely rare to see in the Gay community, but are trademark Cluster B behaviors. The Gay community has always been extremely supportive and welcoming and I believe that some people, with not the best intentions, are taking advantage of that. I’ve seen behaviors, especially amongst the “activist” class, abuse of power, manipulation, control, etc. I’m not sure what the solution is, I hope we don’t need statistics of dramatically increased violence of LGBTQ on LGBTQ before this is investigated or noticed? I just see a potential for a perfect storm, with people from the Gay community being so sensitive to stereotyping and ostracizing, that they may not recognize or ignore clear warning signs and allow very dangerous people into their social circles and things going very badly. I’d just hate to see that happen. Like I said, I have no idea what the solution is, but it’s a potential issue I see and NO ONE is going to talk about this for fear of being labeled an -ist or a -phobe. Just so we’re clear, I’m not talking about people with legitimate Gender concerns, I’m talking about predatory Cluster B’s., this can be differentiated with proper unbiased testing.
@nisehenso
@nisehenso Ай бұрын
If you want to see aggressive acceptance of homosexuality in the mid 2010s and how it can be toxic, I suggest tweekxcraig!
@tomwolfe6063
@tomwolfe6063 Ай бұрын
Just for the sake of my own curiosity; can someone choose to have or to not have a phobia? Isn't a phobia an irrational fear? That term ( homophobia ) has always confused me. It's like choosing to be a theist or an atheist. You're either convinced or you're not convinced that a god exists. The only choice a person has is how they decide to act,
@mattm6720
@mattm6720 Ай бұрын
Craig x Tweek next. One of the great episodes.
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