charlie _ I was drinking something and almost choked laughing while seeing his face

I clicked on this video just for that and by God it was worth it.

I thought Calvin and Aaron had seen it before... ?

From what I understand, Eric and Shane hadn’t seen any Who - classic or New - before watching it on Blind Wave, Calvin had seen some Classic Who but no New Who, and Aaron had seen New Who some time before BW did their reactions, but no Classic Who, although I do think Aaron was aware of how big a deal Davros was in Classic Who! :-)

Yeah, I am sure that Calvin had seen at least some of the new series. I didn't realize he had stopped watching.

grippingrope99 Yeah i remember, i was searching everywhere to find out who the New Doctor was, until people told me about the Christmas Special filming shots. And worst of all i was busy the weekend this episode aired so i had to wait a bit longer

I remember my nan telling me Paul O'Grady was gonna be the new Doctor and losing my God-Damn mind

Hell yeah!

10 years ago... holy shit, feels like yesterday sometimes.

Idk, still feels an eternity for me

A A Especially compared to the one from Parting of the Ways who missed at almost point blank range.

A A Unfortunately that Dalek kinda fucked up their plan. If he hadn’t shot the Doctor, the DoctorDonna would never have been created and Davros would have won.

On an elite lust of individuals who have killed the Doctor...

@@sophiefilo16 yeah... the Cybermen (indirectly due to Mondas energy drain), execution by the Time Lords, the Great One's radiation cave, the Master (indirectly due to falling off a tower), the Rani (indirectly due to time ramming the TARDIS), shot by a gang of Triads, shot by a Dalek and shot by a Cyberman. As time goes on, the more he's killed by projectiles.

@@josephcooper245 Considering that Nine and Ten also died of radiation, The Doctor doesn't seem to have much luck in that field either...

Aaron's done a pretty good job of keeping things spoiler free and coordinating things to line up at the proper time to give everything context. And his poker face when Calvin said about regenerating back into Tennant was great too.

I've gone back and watched that a few times! He was SHOOKETH! Loved it!

I occasionally rewatch this video just for Calvin’s reaction when he recognises Davros.

One of my favorite scenes of this episode was towards the end where the Daleks gained entrance into Torchwood 3 was when Ianto and Gwen Cooper opened fire and the look on Gwen's face as she literally roared in defiance, wow!

Because the last time she faced them was Genesis Of The Daleks.

@@shauntempley9757 When Tom Baker was deliberating if he could commit genocide and destroy the Daleks and he doubted it but Sarah Jane said to him how could you doubt it after all the death the Daleks had caused but Baker did which is why he is the doctor. One of the greatest scenes in Who history.

@@carolinehirst4921 Sarah Jane was the only other character besides the Doctor that knows how devious and savagely brutal Davros is. She knew that having the Daleks on Earth in vast numbers was a nightmare situation on their own. Adding in Davros on top of the danger, is far worse, because there is no low Davros will not sink to to get his way.

No, Day of The Doctor was the peak of show' popularity and highest ratings. Series 11 and Chibnall kill the series.

Definitely. It peaked here. That week was insane. Everyone was talking about this cliffhanger and who could be this new doctor. We were all in shock at how they could bring in a new doctor without any leaks or any reveal beforehand. I don't think they could do this now with all the fake outs and other doctors they've done now

@@joevictor53 If it peaked here, then it started to fall in the following week's resolution.

@@lapelcelery42 the following episode was great but after that it was never as good IMO

@@mayotango1317 In my opinion, A lot of the things that Chibnalls run does wrong were started in Moffats run. AKA the Daleks, the Doctor basically becoming a god known everywhere throughout space and time and making the time lords seem kinda plain. RTD's era actually felt like an alien and human companion having adventures in the vastness of time and space. Characters actually felt real and the Doctor had to actually find ways out of situations, instead of just saying "I am the Doctor" and scaring all his enemies off. Moffat really made the Doctor seem too omnipotent. But yeah, Chibnall has really written the show into the ground now.

Dunne N' dusted Well, it made UK news at the time, so the comparison strengthens.

Andy Does this mean Journey's End will be up on Patreon tomorrow?

Yep :)

Hope they ready for the "11th Doctor"

according to patreon they released 4x13 early access on patreon back on may 11th

Nicolas Brent On Patreon and KZfaq?

StormWolf God what a time

Especially when RTD said in DW Confidential that he has no idea what is going to happen to the Doctor and has to wait for a week to find out.

Like a lot of Steven Moffat's stuff in later series, it was a cliffhanger so good that the resolution had to be underwhelming and unsatisfying.

dogstar75 thanks I love it when something from earlier comes back like that

dogstar75 I never knew that till now and I watched season 4 a lot of times

Thank you for sharing this, I have watched this so many times and yet I never made that connection...wow I feel dumb, just woah...

Apparently he was going to appear on screen with her but supposedly the actor was being unreasonable in his request for pay - I don't know how true that actually is though, it might just be something someone made up at the time and has then been repeated over the years.

:O I never caught that. Actually, I never even knew that guy's name...

That aged well

Slippin_Jim nah, the mass murder of the universe makes sense here. The daleks always wanted utter extinction, they hate everything. What doesn't make sense is why they wouldn't have always planned to do this. They ignored the nuke when it's always been the perfect weapon for the job.

The Rogue Admiral Time lords were around.

Are you referring to The Stolen Earth of Marvel?

That makes Davros Thanos right? I can live with that.

I am waiting for another Infinity War reference when the Reality Bomb is tested tomorrow.

Nexis Based on Eric saying he had no idea and Shane and Calvin looking/sounding pretty surpirsed too, I'm pretty sure it was Aaron and Lono's idea.

Imagine you where Calvin and had seen genesis of the daleks years ago And then he returned

That's one thing I like about the Doctor in this era; he was flawed. He wasn't a superhero. He made mistakes. His arrogance had consequences. In this case, his getting rid of Harriet Jones left the door open for the Master to step in.

I like how our perception if her changes even though she remains the same person. First we don't care much about her then we love her then we despise her then we love her again and even more during her final moments. That's some good character development...

“I did my duty for Queen and country.” -Yvonne Hartman (she repeated this line again after becoming a Cyberman)

Gojirawars 03 She came to mind when I first read Wolf's comment, but I couldn't remember her name. Say what you will about the RTD era, but you have to admit he was phenomenal at making you feel sad to lose characters you not long before cared little for or even hated...

Sophie Filo Well you’re guaranteed to feel bad for anyone who gets turned into a Cyberman, but yeah. I get what you mean.

Does that mean that we on Early Access get it tomorrow, or do we get it one day prior to when it releases publicly?

LabradorIndependent That's what I'm wondering too. I hope not! As Patreon backers, they wouldn't do us like that.

Yep - I took it to mean that Patrons will get it 24hrs after this release, so tomorrow, and everyone else will get it 24hrs after their release, so next Thursday!

Nebu the Bald Still a month away. This has been a long wait...

never got the love for waters of mars. The only bit i found interesting was the last 5-10 minutes

erosion271 I'll admit that after seeing The Thing, it's clear WoM is almost a direct rip off. However, those last 15 minutes are still a masterpiece. I'm far from being an emotional person, and I never cared much about anyone on that base, but the Doctor hearing them die as he walks away is a moment so full of dread, disbelief, sorrow, regret, hopelessness, and so much more. On top of that, this episode holds the only moment in Doctor Who history in which I've ever been afraid: at the end, when the "Time Lord Victorious" appears. This moment is far "darker" than the entirety of Capaldi's era. We realize just how far the Doctor could go and see he no longer cares about the consequences of time. Truly terrifying. This episode, better than any other, shows us why the Doctor needs someone by his side. Not just because he's lonely, but also because, as Donna says, he needs someone to stop him. This episode is powerful due to what it reveals about the Doctor and _how_ it is revealed. Great writing, great directing, great acting, great editing, and superb ending. Without a doubt, one of my favorites...

Honestly I just miss when Doctor Who had other significant characters beside the Doctor and his current companion that made ANY kind of crossover or cameo or callback possible. People like to shit on Russel T. Davies for having kind of "kiddy" episodes, but one thing I always appreciated about his run was how well-grounded the show was in long-running characters. Each companion had a distinct and developed family who actually mattered and played a part in the story. They had friends, jobs, homes which made it possible for us to witness the "civilian view" whenever someone was attacking Earth, and they had long-term impacts beyond their individual departure from the show. And on top of that, a lot of the other non-companion characters were also very fleshed out and well-defined. We just don't get memorable characters like Harriet Jones or Wilfred Mott any more, every side character just shows up for their respective episode and then is never seen again.

Wolf6120, couldn't agree more. RTD made Earth feel like the actual Earth with real people on it who had real lives. He established locations there like the companion's home (like you mentioned) where many scenes took place - which made the companion more relatable to the audience. I like what you said about the ''civilian view'' as well - the human race was used many times by RTD almost as a character with footage of news broadcasts from around the world. None of the above could be seen in Moffat's run and I think it's a contributing factor to the show's decline in quality.

Wolf6120 Lol if anything RTD's run is more darker than Moffats.

Adam I agree with your rant. One thing I've always said was missing in Stevens run was companion families. The stakes are much higher when companions have people at home who they care for and it makes their departure more emotional.

Yeh, dr who’s been shite since season 8

Wait till Jouney's End tomorrow.

yes, 2nd and 3rd thought so too!

MsSharondenadel Davros will recognise her

Yeh he will, but i didn't want to say too much :)

The Doctor wasn't summoned to Galifrey because of the Time War back in Tom Baker's era, he was summoned due to the events that take place in The Deadly Assassin. The Doctor didn't start fighting in the Time War before his 9th incarnation, the War Doctor/Warrior. But because Sarah was human she couldn't go back to Gallifrey with him or else the Time Lords would wipe her memory.

And the same thing is happening to chibnal now 🙄it’s like having 5yr olds as a fan base

Who fans are almost worse than star wars fans sometimes. Ive never hated a moment of this show, love it so much. Dont understand the want to just actively hate on a part of it.

@@the25thprime well, opinions are still opinions. I personally really dislike the new, chibnall seasons, but not because I'm trying to jump on the bandwagon, because I personally think the new seasons have terrible writing, and I personally hate the timeless child twist. You can like the new era of the show, as you can have your own opinion. I wouldn't say everyone who hates the new seasons is just apart of mob mentality.

This is false.

isaacc7 Pretty much every Davros episode got added into the Time War, didn't it? Time Lords try to end Daleks Daleks resurrect Davros Daleks try to invade Gallifrey Davros grows new Daleks Skaro is destroyed.

Greppellio Well, from our perspective it was the first volley. And that is how an actual time war should be fought. Using causality as a weapon, re-writing history in an effort to erase enemies. Big Finish tied into it as well in their Gallifrey series.

#DavrosDemandsYourSilence

yes but they don't know about that. also what is going to happen to his hand

Day of the doctor implied that he returned back to Tom Baker so its possible that he would choose to return to tennets face. I dont think we will see it tho

Well half a decade later this comment became hilarious in hindsight.

@@griffinbaxter4754 well

You know, I remember when Eric and Calvin were watching through Game of Thrones, and everyone was praising Eric for keeping his reactions limited and never giving any info away, which was definitely true. But God DAMN, Aaron's verbal gymnastics are fucking amazing. Every single time they get too close to a spoiler-y question he manages to turn the conversation around and lead them away from it without even making it seem like he's doing anything different. It's both amazing and kind of terrifying lol.

That got me

Wolf6120 "Verbal gymnastics" XD

Pandorica Opens cliffhanger was amazing

Yeah ehhh I was like "noooo that can't happen" when he started regenerating... As for Pandorica tbh, the pay-off was just weird (like how the Doctor got out to begin with?? Answer: a plot hole). If i have to pick a memorable cliffhanger it'd be 6x01/6x02... or 6x06 my mind EXPLODED at that "cliffhanger"...

Either this, The Name of the Doctor, Pandorica Opens or World Enough and Time.

Army of f*cking Ghosts

Gojirawars 03 That was good too, and Utopia I forgot to mention

DatGuyKey Matt Smith I think they'll like I'm worried about when Capaldis run comes round

James Hughes Yeah me too. I really like Capaldi as an actor and I think he seems perfect as the doctor and I liked his performance... I just didn't really enjoy the stories that much.

DatGuyKey I think they'll like series 5. It's definitely intriguing what they'll think of the show from series 6 onwards though.

DatGuyKey I feel absolutely the same loved Capaldis earlier work and was excited to see how it would go but the stories didn't gel for me at all

Matt Smith first episode was pretty bad especially coming after a beloved episode

I'm hoping they'll see at least one serial from each Doctor before the 50th...

Back again, still love it.

Here again, can’t beat it.