How are you able to see properly when your eyes are so far apart? Actually, how is anyone even remotely concerned with your opinion about art when it's clear you haven't left your home in years, let alone BATHED in years? YIKES.

After watching Fantastic Beasts, my friend turned to me and said, 'He should be the next Doctor Who!' I replied, '...dude, we've already HAD Matt Smith.'

Ahhh yes. The well known British show Dr.When

Ah yes, my favorite show, Doctor What. I also kinda like the spin-off, Torchpulp and The Mary Jane Adventures.

"Is he a doctor?" I love my British humour, man. I want those tapes. I'm almost certain naming the company BBV was top banter

The stranger: *exists Doctor who: *WHOM'ST'VE*

Doctor Whom'st'd've Fighting the Derlinks and SiberMin! He has a TURDAS!

"Doctor Why" is what I said to the doctor that delivered me

"Even I would be tricked into buying it if I didn't know better" *_punctuates by waving said tape in the air_*

Knock-off November in December HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Whenever you say "Bill Baggs" I imagine Bilbo Baggins.

First thought when I saw Fantastic Beasts was "why is this guy trying so hard to be a more awkward Matt Smith" but overall I really like those movies still

The Stranger was originally meant to be alt continuity split off from The Twin Dilemma, where the Doctor did actually disappear and become a hermit and Peri went with him. Summoned by Shadows picks up after The Doctor has had a good few years to think about his behaviour and significantly mellowed out. This information comes from an old associate of Bill Baggs on the old Outpost Gallifrey forum BTW. Can't remember his name on OG but he wasn't happy with Baggs for conveniently forgetting to throw him that few extra quid as promised when the video sold well.

If I remember correctly from what Nicola Bryant once told at a convention panel, the reason why she never did more Stranger stories after the one was because she never received payment for it.

the "doctor why and the lawsuit waiting to happen" bit got me so hard

I'm a drama and music teacher and at one of the schools I worked at my students and I wrote a Doctor Who knock-off as our end of year school play/musical. Agent How ran a magical travel agency that took the different classes of students to different times and places they had studied during their school year. It was fun

So "The Stranger" isn't a Doctor Who knockoff. It is an unofficial Doctor Who.

There's five doctors; Who, what, when, where, and why

Thanks for delaying Knock-Off November to December, I was afraid it'd clash with No Nut November

Hey guys, Fun fact! Spotify has a ton of Big finish doctor who episodes. I good one to start is " The Marian Conspiracy " Who introduces my favorite companion.

Nobody: Bill Baggs when Dr Who is on Hiatus: "ILL STEAL IT! NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!"

I'm genuinely surprised you didn't mention the Zygon porn. That seems pretty notable.

guys, December is just knock off november

Bloody hell that's David Troughton (a much-admired actor in both theatre and tv in the UK and yes the son of the same Patrick Troughton the Second Doctor).

The moment he said Nick Briggs for the first time, I thought "Dalek VA Nick Briggs?? No way it's him..." Lo and behold, it is. It's so interesting that he started with DW knockoffs and became an integral part of the real show.

For some reason I read the title as "Doctor Who Knocks Off" and got real confused I should probably sleep

Doctor Zone is the best doctor in doctor who because he has one foot in the future and one foot in the past he also has one hand in the present ( Or at least in a gift shaped cast )

“The Wilderness Years” Whovians: Aw shit

The Stranger was made because the fans were demanding new Doctor Who, but the license was being negotiated at the time between the BBC and Universal, so no new Doctor Who could be made. It wasn't a 'knock-off', it was the closest to Doctor Who that could be done at the time given the situation and climate at the BBC.

The Virgin Doctor Who vs THE CHAD *QUINTON LEAP*

How... How did I not know about this? Nick Briggsand Mark Gatiss pre -Doctor Who, but especially a half-naked Sophie Aldred with the Pie-Lord Adonis, Colin Baker. Rip Hunter and Newt Scamander may be knock offs, but the BEST one is Professor Paradox from Ben 10, that's my dude.

See, I feel like comparing The Stranger to the Asylum and Vídeo Brinquedo is a bit unfair. Those studios are aping success for nefarious reasons and trying to cash in on popular films and trick inept parents into mistaking it for the actual film. The BBV stuff was made when Doctor Who wasn't on the air, so it's more like the Star Trek fan films (Phase II or Continues) if the rules were put in place much earlier and they had to file all the serial numbers off. And more of a labor of love than Atlantic Rim was. Otherwise, pretty good summation.

I think BBV is one of the main reasons why the BBC is so dickish when it comes to content creators using their stuff.

Gatiss may be controversial among fans now but he is still the only person to have written for, starred in and played the Doctor in Doctor Who, as well as creating a docudrama too.(Though Nick Briggs isn't far behind) Pretty impressive for two guys who began in knockoffs.

Doctor Who's girlfriend Nurse What is my favourite knock off

Also Bill & Ben is another BBC series. BILL AND BEN. BILL AND BEN. FLOWER. POT. MEN. GOOD TIMES.

One minor note...the name BBV actually stands for Bill Baggs Video.

>Knockoff November >Uploaded December 1st

Great video! Nitpick, but I was really hoping for an actual knockoff called "doctor why" based on the thumbnail and now I'm a little sad

It took me way too long to realize that the guy in the thumbnail is Newt Scamander and not one of the Doctors.

13:36 isn’t that David Troughton, son of Patrick Troughton who played the 2nd Doctor?

DR WHAT DR WHERE DR WHEN DR WHY DR HOW

Colin was an underrated doctor imo, vengeance on varos is fantastic, I’m going to have to check out the third stranger volume

I just kinda think of The Stranger as "Colin Baker's missing season".

This is amazing. Only one thing I wish you mentioned: One of their last releases was Do You Have a Licence to Save This Planet?, a parody of themselves starring Sylvester McCoy as Foot Doctor, hiding from "Licensed Reality Corporation".

it's called knockoff november because december is just knockoff november

Nock off November 2018 first episode on December 1

This is one of the most thorough, honest and well researched clips on The Stranger and BBV on the net - and the top comment is some half-assed diss?! The internet is a weird place. Anyway, The Stranger is a pretty interesting piece of entertainment that crosses into official Dr. Who continuity these days thanks to aforementioned Big Finish Productions and their canonical entries (albeit explained as an alternate timeline). What's more exciting too? Original The Stranger novels will be coming later in the year! Good times to be a fan.

I bought all these at the time and yes, they were a bit low quality but you nailed it when you said they were all we could get. 90’s DW fandom was desperate for any content and we lapped it up. CD, video, cassette, books, we didn’t care. We just wanted more of what we loved even if it was a bit rough around the edges. I had no idea Bill B was so controversial so loved this expose.

Doctor Who Doctor What Doctor When Doctor where Doctor why Doctor How

Im not gay, but Colin Baker...

It’s cool that Colin Baker got to play the inconspicuous doctor he always wanted to be.

I personally loved the Auton trilogy when I was a kid back in the 90's. Stumbled over it and it honestly felt like something that could've fit in as happening in the background of late 80's who.

DC's Legends of Tomorrow desperately wants to be Doctor Who, especially the third season. Though whoever writes it is an idiot who has no clue about the UK and is full of annoying stereotypes. But if you want knock-offs, just look at the BBC's rival network ITV, who has tried several times to make a rival, Primeval, The Tomorrow People, Demon... and so on.

i got grapes what you watchin son?

I died at "Doctor Why? And the lawsuit _waiting_ to happen!" XD

This channel gives me faith in a time when KZfaq is about as trite as it's ever been, every video is fantastically researched, well paced and presented. Big ups to you from England Quinton 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿

Don't you just love it when a video is made to be a part of a monthly video series yet was released after said month.😁

It's december quinton

"Bill and Ben, (the flower pot men)" was BBC children's programme from the early 60s.

Thank you for pointing out the fact that Newt Scamander is literally The Doctor after coming to the Potterverse and landing Hagrid's job Specifically, Eddie plays Newt the way he would if he was cast for the 11th Doctor, and I also want Fantastic Beasts to hurry up and end so Eddie can finally play The Doctor

So, Quinton, Lindsay Ellis and Kyle Kallgren all make videos linked to copyright/fair-use in the same week... do I smell a cabal?

I find it amazing that the original DW actors even agreed to make the knockoffs in the first place.

Fourth Doctor: "It's either Romana or...18:43"

Glad I’m not the only one that things Newt’s a 11th Doctor knockoff.

Back to the roots of quinton reviews!

I mean...I don't DISAGREE that newt is a Doctor Who knockoff

Looking at The Stranger, it seems to cross the line between knock-off and spiritual successor, especially considering the original series had been cancelled at that point. Not surprising the lawyers would catch up to him.

You missed out a fact about Nark Gatis. He also o wrote and starred in extremely dark and brilliant horror comedy, the League of Gentlemen.

"3rd Rock from the Sun" did a lot of "let's talk about sci-fi but show none" and it worked great! I actually was let down when they showed stuff.

Absolutely wonderful video on a era of doctor who fan works that I never thought would get explored in such a beautiful fashion! Keep up the great work

i keep hearing "bill baggs" as just an abbreviation of "bilbo baggins," like "yea this is my buddy billy baggs"

i'm glad the *shudder* love scene between Nicola Bryant and Colin Baker in The Airzone Solution at least got a mention here...lord that movie was weird Also I'm so glad for the love for the Sixth Doctor, he's constantly shat on.

I've been watching you since your Fairly Odd Parents film review and it's genuinely amazing watching you grow in quality and subs. It makes me really glad I stayed this long and I can't wait for more videos as you grow

quinton, you’re such a good narrator, i would pay to watch theatrical documentaries narrated by you tbh

It is interesting, that BBV was resurrected in 2021. They are producing their own audio drama, web series about Cyberon, Probe. Also, company also had a controversy, where it was revealed that they hired and defended accused child predator.

Thanks for this video. It cleared up some confusion I had about the spinoffs, the audio adventure origins (I suspect some of the motivation for the BBC to license Doctor Who was to support their IP in lawsuits), and the “in everything but names” spin/rippoffs. It was also funny, which is always welcome.

Why do you have a casualy explained doll figure in the background.?

This was a really interesting episode based solely on the concept of fan films gaining enough traction and influence to hire members of the core cast and crew - specifically in science fiction (Star Wars and Firefly have a ton of fan films). I think it would be really interesting to study this trend and how fans can influence their favorite properties through their own creativity. It would be a deep rabbit hole if all forms of media were covered - fan novels and games are more prolific than fan films, I think.

13:07 You're probably already aware of this but the actor with Colin in that scene is a relative of the Second Doctor Patrick Troughton (I think it's his son or something) and actually guest starred in the Doctor Who episode Midnight as a professor. Also, I agree about Eddie Redmayne. His mannerisms and dress sense are completely in line with a Doctor portrayal.

Seeing how all this connected to big finish was satisfying. Now I really want to listen to those first 3 audios.

I like how the second to last sentence of the video fulfilled the click bait quota. In spite of that, very well done video, man. It was my first time learning of the BBV and its so fascinating hearing about it through your storytelling.

This was a really great video Quinton, everything you talked about really surprised me about the franchise. How you justified putting Eddie redmayne in the thumbnail surprised me too 😂 either way this was a real treat to watch-I’ve missed your doctor who videos (and this is coming from someone who has never watched doctor who)

I kinda zoned out while watching this, and when I heard the words "Space Dandy" I was jolted back into reality.

I remember when my local public television station showed some of these. Also is Mr. Explainy the Scifi David Troughton (who played the Professor in Midnight)? OMG IT IS!!!! (and yes son of Patrick Troughton) The thing with Downtime is that it's vaguely accepted by someone at BBC licensing as it got turned into a BBC licensed distributor published book....I think featuring the 7th Doctor.

Is it me or Quinton reviews are getting better and better

Torchwood: Miracle Day was the biggest knock-off! It shouldn't have been called Torchwood to begin with!

FYI "Bill and Ben" also doubles as a reference to a really old British children's show from the 50's called "Bill and Ben The Flowerpot Men" that became a sort of pre-internet meme in the UK. The Bill and Ben meme has shown up numerous times in British media throughout the decades and it ALWAYS flies over Americans' heads.

This is one of the best videos I've ever seen that has covered The Wilderness Years, it's fantastic!

Well thanks for telling me about these homages that I now have to watch. They made so many! Nick Briggs and Mark Gatiss were involved!

Both the clowns paintings in the background will haunt my dreams.

Very insightful! I watched a lot of the Classic series when I was younger and never heard of these tapes outside the infamous shirtless Colin Baker scene! Thanks for bringing these to light and explaining their origins

Gatis also worked on the brilliant audio drama Professor Nebulous, which functions as a sort of Red Dwarf to Dr Who's Star Trek. playing with the themes while still having it's own identity

These were made to satisfy us fans during the long years when there was no new Dr Who on TV and it seemed there never would be again. We were extremely grateful for them. and they were very popular. A situation I assume you have never experienced. The BBC were completly fine with them. Also you have a very interesting way of pronouncing Nicola.

Useless fact: @13:20 is Patrick Troughton's son, David Troughton.

The head-stitching at 19:04 is its own sci-fi.

Never been much of a Whovian, but this was an entertaining and informative watch. Good job, Quinton!

The Stranger is oddly compelling, I would've been interested in watching this a continuation of Doctor Who. Definitely better than last couple of seasons of Doctor Who. It would have added to the cannon.

Bill Baggs and Nick Briggs first worked together in the early '80s, with the Audio Visuals range of Doctor Who audio adventures. These carried on until 1991, and starred Briggs himself as the Doctor for all but the first one. By implication, 'Fred' could be said to be the same character (as could the previous Doctor in the Arabella Weir-starring Unbound story Exile). In fact, the Briggs Doctor appeared in two Doctor Who magazine stories - a cameo in Party Animals, alongside range companion Ria, and, more significantly, as McGann's 'replacement' in a story called Wormwood. Baggs himself would go on to create a few more videos, including Zygon: When Being You Just isn't Enough, and a fifth P.R.O.B.E. film, When to Die, which recast the character of Liz Shaw, due to Caroline John's sad passing. Incidentally, several Audio Visual stories were redone as Big Finish ones.

Damn man, last time I came to your channel you had around 1000 subscribers. Good to see your channel grow so well.