Doctor Who - The Daleks Vs Movellans War Extended Scene

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Stewart Seyfried

Stewart Seyfried

3 жыл бұрын

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@stewartseyfried
@stewartseyfried 3 жыл бұрын
In the episode "Destiny of the Daleks" staring Tom Baker as the Fourth Doctor, it was set right in the middle of a war between the Movellans and the Daleks. The war was started because the Dalek Empire and the Movellans were both expanding to control the galaxy and fought to destroy each other. The war zone took place on Skaro (planet of the Daleks) the Movellans had a plan to take Skaro! At 0:20 the Doctor says "It's a war zone" - So I think it's clear they're in Skaro at this point. In Destiny of the Daleks, they have different coloured Daleks, in The Pilot, we have the Time War Daleks. The Movellan war was said to have lasted centuries, and the Time War in a linear sense, was fought throughout countless time periods. Here's where the tie in comes in. So while the Movellans/Dalek war was taking place, The Time war was to. When the Doctor and Bill land in the war zone, we hear the Daleks say "The Doctor is Detected.. Seek.. Locate.. Destroy!" which was the exact same order and same voice as the Dalek in "The Day Of The Doctor" during the Time War scene. At 0:42 Bill says "Are we still in the future?" to which the Doctor replies "No, this is the past." Now what ties this even more is that the Daleks said that the Doctor is detected in the beginning, but when the Doctor and Bill encounter their first Dalek face to face at 1:33 the Dalek doesn't recognise the Doctor, and says "Identify. Intruder. Identify." until the Doctor makes the Dalek scan his sonic device... Which means that there MUST'VE been another Doctor present during this time period and story, either the War Doctor or The Fourth Doctor, and the reason why the Daleks are different in Destiny of the Daleks is because of the Daleks transporting to help themselves during both wars taking place at the same time! We know that the Time War Daleks can do this, even the past Daleks using a Time Corridor, used in Remembrance of the Daleks and Victory of the Daleks. This explains the different Daleks, and why the Dalek didn't recognise the Twelfth Doctor, because this particular Dalek was probably just fighting in the Time War minutes prior, and then transported itself to help the other Daleks in the war against the Movellans OR the Dalek just had an altercation with the War Doctor or Fourth Doctor, and wasn't expecting a future Doctor to be present as well, hence why it asked the Twelfth Doctor to identify himself.
@LPTV84
@LPTV84 3 жыл бұрын
I love this idea. The Twelfth Doctor running through the period of his Fourth incarnation or War incarnation is actually awesome.
@Cybermat47
@Cybermat47 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think this is necessarily the original Dalek-Movellan War. More likely a second or third war to get some revenge after the first one. If the original Dalek-Movellan War had taken place at the same time as the Time War, then the Time Lords could have just borrowed or copied the Movellan Virus and used it to instantly win the war.
@DiamandaHagan
@DiamandaHagan 2 жыл бұрын
I love that they brought the Movellans back looking perfect but forgot that they're a bunch of emotionless robots.
@sunspot42
@sunspot42 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Movellans weren't always robots. Maybe they were flesh and blood at one point and replaced by robot duplicates of themselves, or robot successors.
@orumonuldor1340
@orumonuldor1340 Жыл бұрын
​@@sunspot42 Nah, they were always androids. The question is whether they were a Dalek deception that got out of control, an android race that betrayed their creators or a project of the Doctors aimed at the Daleks.
@Cybermat47
@Cybermat47 10 ай бұрын
Maybe they gave themselves emotions to try and break the whole logical deadlock thing they had with the Daleks?
@stevetheduck1425
@stevetheduck1425 7 ай бұрын
Before Big Finish added lore from the audio adventures, we had what the Movellans said themselves: essentially, they are advanced robots originally in service to humanoids, who have rebelled and become their own people. They encounter and stalemate with the Daleks, as they both exist to survive at the expense of others not themselves, and share a hive-mind that does the planning. So they seek to break a stalemate. But if you think of the Dalek-Movellan conflict as 'who would win? the Cybermen or the Daleks?' then you've got the essentials.
@Irrev77
@Irrev77 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wish they'd release extended cuts of episodes with the longer versions of scenes like this. There's so many amazing clips that were cut out, especially in Capaldi's era.
@sideswipe147
@sideswipe147 3 жыл бұрын
Clips on the cutting room floor exist on the cutting room floor for good reasons. The world just isn't yet ready for the whole of certain parts of the truth. It could have caused the whole thing to come undone.
@DalekCaanOfSkaro
@DalekCaanOfSkaro 2 жыл бұрын
Some scenes were recycled from "Into the Dalek" therefore it's justified they removed it as it would be wierd to see repeated scenes
@jeckjeck3119
@jeckjeck3119 3 жыл бұрын
Capaldi = Awesome.
@wackywaa1458
@wackywaa1458 Жыл бұрын
I wish they used classic Dalek props for this scene
@Gojirawars03
@Gojirawars03 14 күн бұрын
It’s meant to be a second or third Movellan war, I think.
@TK_Brainslug
@TK_Brainslug 3 жыл бұрын
Dang I miss Capaldi
@cdle007
@cdle007 2 жыл бұрын
Doctor Who died with him.
@Squicx
@Squicx 3 жыл бұрын
I always wonder if this was the Time War or just a random war. The reason being the line “The Doctor Is Detected”
@edmundprice5276
@edmundprice5276 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, dalek movellan war
@apatheticxmindsetx3549
@apatheticxmindsetx3549 Жыл бұрын
Time war daleks came back for round 2
@Double0Inside
@Double0Inside Жыл бұрын
Everytime I hear 0:34 I get chills. Nostalgia at its finest lmao
@TheWhovinerd-1963
@TheWhovinerd-1963 2 жыл бұрын
think the explanation for the Time war Daleks being seen with the Movellans is because their war never truly ended in classic who. Well kind of. The Daleks were utterly defeated in the first Movellan war because, of the deadly virus 🦠 they had created. which almost completely destroyed the Daleks. The Daleks had to spread across the galaxy in small battalions to escape its effect, fracturing their empire. Then the Daleks had their own civil war against each other, with the Imperial and Renegades seeking to destroy one another. Both factions were assumed destroyed by the hand of Omega. However we don’t know for sure. Perhaps after the Daleks had regrown their Empire and improved their technology, developed a cure for the Movellan virus 🦠. Also choosing to reignite their war with the Movellans to remove them as a threat (pre time war) Captain Jack does state to the ninth doctor “one minute they were the biggest threat in the universe and the next they vanished” the doctor reply’s stating that they went off to fight a bigger war (the time war) This suggests that The Time war Daleks fought the rest of the universe first, before igniting the war with the Timelords. This is my explanation anyway and it might not be entirely concrete but, it also sort of makes sense. I actually love the idea of the Daleks struggling to destroy another race of creatures, equal to their own. We really need to see this more with New who Daleks. It gives them more character. Xx
@just_kos99
@just_kos99 Ай бұрын
This is one example I should've shown my NuWho-only Whovian family: I keep telling them that they need to watch the Classic DW series, to get additional background on these scenes. Like this one: They never say the Movellans are androids -- they're as much robotic as Daleks are.
@AndrewHsieh96
@AndrewHsieh96 Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly edited, even though it obviously isn't perfect.
@buaithlakloh2236
@buaithlakloh2236 Жыл бұрын
1:52 what is that thing
@davidlindsay131
@davidlindsay131 Жыл бұрын
You can't just stop it There!
@user-ox8do8kf6z
@user-ox8do8kf6z 10 ай бұрын
seen 1 dalek attacking the doctor what happened to the other daleks that were in the battle with the movellans
@wispa1a
@wispa1a 20 сағат бұрын
Haaa well we know that the plunger is the dr's fault
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 Жыл бұрын
I loved the Movellans cameo. A nice nod to Destiny of the Daleks.
@Mrhouse_enthusiast
@Mrhouse_enthusiast 6 ай бұрын
What episode is this
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 6 ай бұрын
@@Mrhouse_enthusiast The Pilot (Series 10. Episode 1)
@Mrhouse_enthusiast
@Mrhouse_enthusiast 6 ай бұрын
@@danielwilliamson6180 thanks
@user-ox8do8kf6z
@user-ox8do8kf6z 11 ай бұрын
who was the girl getting exterminated and not dying when the dalek kept firing at her didnt understand that part ?
@adamstewart9052
@adamstewart9052 11 ай бұрын
Watch the episode.
@user-ox8do8kf6z
@user-ox8do8kf6z 10 ай бұрын
ive watched the episode still none the wiser@@adamstewart9052
@stevetheduck1425
@stevetheduck1425 7 ай бұрын
She's called The Pilot, oddly enough. But this episode and Bill's last episodes explain her very well.
@user-ox8do8kf6z
@user-ox8do8kf6z 7 ай бұрын
thanks for reply i finally sussed it out she was a alien that turned the dalek into water i found the last episode it explain it somehow i missed it thanks @@stevetheduck1425
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