Doctor Who: Victory of the Daleks - REVIEW - Dalekcember

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Mr TARDIS

Mr TARDIS

4 жыл бұрын

The Daleks are bigger, bolder, brighter and more boring than ever in this franchise-maintenance episode; 'Victory of the Daleks'.
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@MrTARDIS
@MrTARDIS 4 жыл бұрын
"WOULD YOU CARE FOR SOME TEA?!?!?" Be sure to celebrate (?) the paradigm Daleks by liking this video, sharing it around and leaving a comment! It will also appease the almighty algorithm!
@T2266
@T2266 4 жыл бұрын
The one made me lose it was "You do not require tea?"
@DalekTheSupreme
@DalekTheSupreme 4 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the Scientist Dalek coming to the same conclusion as Sec and Caan and suggesting that maybe the Dalek goal of exterminating everything is a bad idea, and the Supreme Dalek just giving him a look before exterminating him on the spot, before declaring science illegal in the Dalek Empire. It would explain why they gradually devolve back into using older models and lose their menace under Moffat's run.
@jamesknighton4489
@jamesknighton4489 4 жыл бұрын
MrTARDISreviews sorry I'm a coffee drinker myself
@calumbishop7082
@calumbishop7082 4 жыл бұрын
The Paradigm Daleks did make another appearance in The Pandorica Opens where they were all turned to stone. Would explain how the Paradigm’s were destroyed, just not how the other Daleks came back.
@bbsj86
@bbsj86 4 жыл бұрын
I actually love the Paradigm Daleks, I really just don't get the issue with the colours. It makes sense that they would use bright colours to easily identify each rank. Honestly I think they would have been a lot more accepted if they stuck to it and explained the rankings of the different colours more.
@Splain
@Splain 4 жыл бұрын
I love the daleks going into hiding. There is something ammusing about seeing Daleks having to think out of the box.
@robertmcghintheorca49
@robertmcghintheorca49 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more of that. They're so creepy when you so t know what they're planning.
@NitroIndigo
@NitroIndigo 4 жыл бұрын
"OH GOOD GOD IT'S THIS GUY AGAIN. DOCTOR, THIS IS BORDERING ON HARASSMENT. WE DO NOT WANT TO BUY ANY CLEANING PRODUCTS FROM YOU."
@LunaTheStars
@LunaTheStars 3 жыл бұрын
Since you’re here, you might as well stay for the show! It’s Progeneta’s first gig
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
8:03 I read an earlier version of the script, and at one point Mark wrote the Daleks bringing up essentially a futuristic PowerPoint. I'm glad it was cut down.
@jamesdunne8504
@jamesdunne8504 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask where you read the early version of the script?
@davidturner1595
@davidturner1595 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like timeless children tbh
@Strobertat
@Strobertat 4 жыл бұрын
And here we are back at the beginning. Looking at that first video it's so interesting to see how much you've changed and grown as a creator. So glad your still going 9 years later and I've loved Darlek-Cember. Ashame that it's almost over.
@SegaNintendoGuy64
@SegaNintendoGuy64 4 жыл бұрын
Best quote of the day.. ‘I am the Doctor and you are the Daleks!’
@DoobyShoo
@DoobyShoo 3 жыл бұрын
9:30 I love how the ceiling is barely high enough for the supreme Dalek 😅
@WSDigitalArtwork
@WSDigitalArtwork 4 жыл бұрын
Despite it's flaws this episode is the best Dalek story of Smith's run because it has the serious relationship between the daleks and the doctor whereas in other episodes he just doesn't take them seriously and also damn I forgot how underrated this episode's soundtrack is!
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 3 жыл бұрын
Best Smith dalek story isn't much of a compliment when you consider what the other ones are.
@EditedAF987
@EditedAF987 3 жыл бұрын
Considering how the Daleks show up every series, and are very rarely as powerful as they were back in the time war, it’s understandable that the Doctor would stop reacting so dramatically to their comebacks. I mean the sixth doctor didn’t even bat an eyelid when he learned that the Master had survived being burnt alive because the Master had already been surviving ridiculous shit for the previous 3 seasons.
@britanimations2002
@britanimations2002 4 жыл бұрын
Right so... This video kinda makes me wish you added Curse of thhe Fetal Death in before Dalek and called it 25 episodes
@SwfanredLotr
@SwfanredLotr 4 жыл бұрын
I actually loved the Paradigm Daleks, I think they deserved a better chance. I even got my Drone Dalek figure from Wallapop...
@Via_The_Void
@Via_The_Void 4 жыл бұрын
I never liked the design. They lost the classic pepperpot profile & looked as if they were about to tip over. I'm not surprised they were jettisoned.
@disneyboy3030
@disneyboy3030 Жыл бұрын
​@@Via_The_Void there was supposed to be a weapon in their backs. How cool would it be to have have something like say, a gaint Lazer gun out of its back.
@MichaelCarter1967347053
@MichaelCarter1967347053 Жыл бұрын
@@Via_The_Void I thought they looked like one of the dalek toys from the 60's
@BH-98
@BH-98 4 жыл бұрын
At the time I loved this episode & constantly rewatched it. It has gone down as time’s gone on, mainly because of online reviews & watching power of the Daleks which does this concept better, but I still find it entertaining & think it’s an underrated gem. Plus it’s miles better than the next Dalek story....ugh
@darrylgillespie1160
@darrylgillespie1160 4 жыл бұрын
One issue I never see brought up is how shit the interior of the Dalek ship is. It's literally a warehouse in Cardiff, and dosent look like the previous ones.
@LeftytheGansterGremlin
@LeftytheGansterGremlin 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was a Cigarette factory. Can't get that imagery out of my head now.
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 4 жыл бұрын
Amy should be wearing Daisy Dukes instead of that mini but who's gonna complaib about those legs?
@NitroIndigo
@NitroIndigo 4 жыл бұрын
"I am the Doctor, and YOU are the Daleks!" You don't say!
@APostApocalypseProduction
@APostApocalypseProduction 4 жыл бұрын
I like the paradigm Daleks very much. in fact, I have all of them and I did not know that the scientist Dalek appeared only once.
@TheMorlun
@TheMorlun 4 жыл бұрын
Screw the cracks and retconning 2 fraking Dalek invasions! And Waters of Mars along with the said 2 invasions, now that I think about it! Humans actively knowing about them with no way to hide their invasion could have so much potential... Honestly, Moffat clearly doesn't want to write Daleks in any shape or form, except for street cred. The best Dalek story in his run is actually Davros' story. I think Paradigm designs are ok-ish, but red being the drone (and thus, the main face of the daleks) was a bad decision. Also, straight up having no plan for eternal.
@calumbishop7082
@calumbishop7082 4 жыл бұрын
During Moffat’s run the Dalek really took a back seat. And whereas the Cybermen got to shine by the end of his run. Ironically this has left a situation where for the first time since the 2nd Doctor, the Cybermen feel like a bigger deal than the Daleks. Despite all the criticism (some right, some wrong) I do think Chibnall understands the Daleks better than Moffat (just the scene of a single Dalek single handily taking out a UK army division was a better representation of the Daleks than Moffat’s run).
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 4 жыл бұрын
@@calumbishop7082 strongly agree. The Daleks get a really rough ride in Moffat's era, IMHO.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 4 жыл бұрын
The Cybermen didn’t even get much in the Moffat era But yeah he just doesn’t like writing Dalrksv
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsButterBean1020 Pain...pain...pain...
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 3 жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 as I said That is the one two parter where they feel credible The other two are cameos or them getting undone by the power of love
@rickyred001
@rickyred001 4 жыл бұрын
when those multi coloured daleks emerged from the lift on the dalek ship, i half expected them to start singing YMCA. What we see here is the dumbing down of the daleks, the fear factor a distant memory, great cast though.
@buck342443
@buck342443 3 жыл бұрын
The sad part is the fan backlash pretty much killed any chance of seeing a new Dalek design that isn't a one off
@samuelbarber6177
@samuelbarber6177 4 жыл бұрын
I like this episode, mainly for Nostalgia factor. It was one of my first Doctor Who stories, I will always treasure the memories of being in school and when we were asked to pick out reading material, picking up copies of adaptations of series 5 episodes, namely The Eleventh Hour, this story, and the Lodger, which introduced me to Doctor Who, it's why Matt Smith is my favourite Doctor and why the Eleventh Hour is my favourite episode.
@bladersmosh
@bladersmosh 4 жыл бұрын
Best Dalek quote-Would you care for some tea?
@TheKandyman
@TheKandyman 4 жыл бұрын
In power they say do you require liquid...nice nod to the past
@SegaNintendoGuy64
@SegaNintendoGuy64 4 жыл бұрын
‘I AM YOUR SOLIDER!’ A homage to Power of the Daleks when the Dalek said ‘I AM YOUR SERVANT!’
@Trev359
@Trev359 4 жыл бұрын
Is homage the new word for rip off?
@SegaNintendoGuy64
@SegaNintendoGuy64 4 жыл бұрын
Delboy359 No.
@Trev359
@Trev359 4 жыл бұрын
@@SegaNintendoGuy64 Sorry, but it is.
@SegaNintendoGuy64
@SegaNintendoGuy64 4 жыл бұрын
Delboy359 Nobody I know said that that line is a rip-off of another.
@TheKandyman
@TheKandyman 4 жыл бұрын
@@Trev359 it's just a nod to an old story, not a rip of. It's like saying the doctor mentioning the yeti and zygons In remembrance of the daleks is a rip of Edit: I know it's not the best example but I couldn't think of anything else at the time
@christopherjohnston3569
@christopherjohnston3569 4 жыл бұрын
In the shot of the ships exploding you literally see one fly off unharmed. The CGI team knew it wasn’t the end
@dragonzilla6482
@dragonzilla6482 4 жыл бұрын
I had a chat with a friend the other day about the Paradigm Daleks and I don’t know if it’s true or not but apparently he told me that there are some fans who actually regret lashing out on them and wish that they kept quiet and just let them have them time in the sport light.
@geesefeeders1
@geesefeeders1 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say so. The design wasn’t what people wanted but their legacy is even worse now knowing they were used once properly and never again. If they had the opportunity to be in stronger stories then I’m sure they would never have been hated so much
@dragonzilla6482
@dragonzilla6482 2 жыл бұрын
@@geesefeeders1 So perhaps it was best that they brought back the Time War Daleks but still if we get another attempt to redesign the Daleks aside from the Reconnaissance Scout or Shin Dalek as I call it, hopefully it will be something that we can all agree on.
@norncare1
@norncare1 4 жыл бұрын
Something you brought up in a previous video on this episode, I wonder if this would have gone over better had it been expanded into a two parter. The second half is very rushed and if they had a whole episode perhaps the new Daleks could have made more of an impact. On another note, I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but there’s a really well done fan video called The Dalek That Time Forgot that connects this episode with Journey’s End and some classic Dalek events as well very well in a very timey-wimey way and fleshes out Caan’s story just a bit more, and sets several events in motion. It’s really very well thought out and makes for a great addition to the New Series Daleks’ story.
@dubliam8064
@dubliam8064 4 жыл бұрын
Modern Power of the Daleks
@Trev359
@Trev359 4 жыл бұрын
In other words awful rip off.
@dubliam8064
@dubliam8064 4 жыл бұрын
@@Trev359 you're very negative about my opinions
@Trev359
@Trev359 4 жыл бұрын
@@dubliam8064 But I'm not wrong and neither are you.. It is a modern day Power, but, by definition, that makes it a rip off. In my opinion it's an awful one. I am not trying to be negative, I can't help my opinion. I love this season but I think this is the weak one. I think the majority of fans would agree this isn't in the same league as Power.
@vanillamc1
@vanillamc1 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I have so much respect for, watching endless Dalek stories. Your review on this one is spot on!
@_jimso_
@_jimso_ 4 жыл бұрын
I genuinely love 80% of this episode, the crayola dalek sequence is goofy as are the space fighter jets, however even the part with 11 and the jammy dodger redeems that somewhat. I think the scenes in the war base were good and had serious potential for an isolated dalek story.
@britishnerd3919
@britishnerd3919 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, wouldn't the Davros DNA make them the most Dalek who ever Daleked, as they are literally mutated Kaleds? Also the Daleks need to not be aliens and appear to be inventions, to be annoying enough that the Doctor has to verbally say they are Daleks.
@ThePhantomLK
@ThePhantomLK 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. This episode makes no sense whatsoever.
@robertmcghintheorca49
@robertmcghintheorca49 4 жыл бұрын
4:28 The biggest connection is that Matt Smith was personally chosen by Wendy Padbury herself, probably because of his uncanny resemblance to Patrick Troughton.
@maldon3659
@maldon3659 4 жыл бұрын
"GO GO DALEK RANGERS, MIGHTY MORPHIN DALEK RANGERS"
@MichaelHickerson
@MichaelHickerson 4 жыл бұрын
I liked this when it aired and I still do. Call me crazy...
@fazbearking87
@fazbearking87 4 жыл бұрын
We were introduced to Progenitors before this episode. They were used in The Doctor’s Daughter to create the human and Hath armies, as well as Jenny. Although I think in this episode they elaborated a bit more on how the Progenitors work.
@Jedi_Spartan
@Jedi_Spartan 4 жыл бұрын
10:46 It's tradition... any pure white coloured Dalek shoots like a stormtrooper. Just look at the Imperial Daleks from Remembrance.
@theshadowdirector
@theshadowdirector 4 жыл бұрын
Fellow defender of the nee paradigm Daleks. I do wonder if that knee jerk decision to scrap them encouraged some bad habits to form in the fan community?
@DalekTheSupreme
@DalekTheSupreme 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was the cause of entitlement in the fanbase, but it certainly didn't help.
@robertmcghintheorca49
@robertmcghintheorca49 4 жыл бұрын
7:02 Megan from EMS Productions: Uh, oh, that can't be good. Dalek: Correct!
@DalekTheSupreme
@DalekTheSupreme 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I still really like Victory of the Daleks. I still like the story it's trying to tell and the new status quo for the Daleks it tried to establish. There are a lot of fun and memorable moments, and I do enjoy the new Dalek designs. While the bronze ones are in my opinion the most timeless, the Progenitor Daleks have kind of an organic aesthetic, particularly with the eyestalks, that really does work for me. I even like the color-coding because I did watch the Peter Cushing Dalek films when I was younger. I feel like this episode could have been great with one alteration - instead of the Oblivion Continuum in Bracewell's chest, the Dalek Drone is sent down to exterminate everyone in the bunker if the Doctor doesn't back off. They could have the Breem character trying to protect Amy while the Doctor and Bracewell combine their knowledge of Dalek technology to build a weapon capable of destroying the attacking Dalek. Breem would get some character development, Bracewell's character arc still gets to end on a triumphant note, and the new Daleks would get to do something. As it is, I do still think this episode is okay, but it does mark the turning point for the Daleks mostly devolving into a less credible threat in the New Series under Moffat's run. I'm personally still sad we'll probably never get to see the Progenitor Daleks in the series again.
@bladersmosh
@bladersmosh 4 жыл бұрын
Mighty Morphing Power-Daleks!
@McEdam
@McEdam 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review! Nice to see it come first circuit as Victory was your first review! Comparing the review is astonishing to see how much indepth you go and you get your opinion out more clearly. Also fun fact that same time the first Eleventh Doctor story for Daleksember came out the BBC released best eleventh Doctor moment! On there KZfaq channel.... just thought that's pretty funny
@rtex2020
@rtex2020 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the review and for this month of Dalek reviews - whew! I know you like Matt Smith's Doctor; when I first saw this, I kept hoping for better things. It was OK; Winston Churchill seemed pretty obsessed with "do anything to win". I like the idea that this is a modern Power of the Daleks... I never noticed this before.
@RealMagmaDash
@RealMagmaDash 2 жыл бұрын
in journey's end you can see 1 ship flying away, out of formation. which is a great little detail
@keelanbarron928
@keelanbarron928 4 жыл бұрын
I have just recently seen the power of the daleks and I've realized that the beginning of victory of the daleks is pretty much just that episode but the ruse is cut short. (Also, the intro of daleksember has one part of the power of the daleks apart of it.) Edit: nevermind. You pointed that out.
@dubliam8064
@dubliam8064 4 жыл бұрын
What is it with war movies/tv shows having good first half and bad second half
@captainhindsight8604
@captainhindsight8604 4 жыл бұрын
You... do not require tea??
@captaincrumpet5558
@captaincrumpet5558 4 жыл бұрын
The Paradigm Daleks were absolutely WASTED potential. Their design and voice in my opinion were awesome and we could had more variants of them.
@ihateunicorns867
@ihateunicorns867 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with the updated Daleks design isn't the design itself, it's what it represents. The Daleks are already a credible threat and don't need updating to be slicker and more dangerous. It's like the constant upgrading of "threat" in place of narrative content. End of the world < End of the Universe < End of Reality itself etc. It doesn't make the audience any more engaged with the characters. The creepy Daleks silently gliding around are much more sinister than the bigger, deep-voiced "new paradigm" because of the writing. Long exposition monologues are just lazy writing.
@hannahkenney6846
@hannahkenney6846 3 жыл бұрын
OMG the paradigm Daleks!! I remember being 10 years old and watching Series 5 air their new episodes every week and it being such a huge deal. All I could think when they appeared was What are these Joesph's coat of many colour daleks doing here? Such a radical change and yet I only saw them on this two parter, The Pandorica Opens/ The Big Bang and then once at Doctor Who Live. Their height and their weapons were the only impressive thing about them. Bold and strategic move on the writers part and love that they wanted to take them in a new direction but glad they didn't stick with it for much longer after that.
@SegaNintendoGuy64
@SegaNintendoGuy64 4 жыл бұрын
7:36 Haha never thought I see that again.
@katecastreviews4639
@katecastreviews4639 4 жыл бұрын
This episode isn't perfect, but i have a real soft spot for it. Since i started Doctor Who with The Eleventh Hour, this was my first exposure to the Daleks. And for me at least, it was a great introduction to their menacing and cunning nature. Though in hindsight, I do wish that the new Daleks got more exposure. Though Dalek leaders seem to come back every now and then after long hiatuses so you never know. Maybe they'll pop up again one day.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
13:10 Mark's voice acting *further proves* my theory that he only writes as an excuse to act. Plenty of actors do it, though unfortunately I think Mark developed to consistent a reputation of writing. It's clear that writing isn't where his heart really is - he's a brilliant actor.
@herbivarsawus4359
@herbivarsawus4359 4 жыл бұрын
You could get that Victory poster, it was in a magazine at the time.
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly loved the Paradigm Daleks, I'm so sad that they never had another chance.
@tomimpala
@tomimpala 4 жыл бұрын
0:48 Ey, can we just appreicate they put cloth over the dalek's lights cause it was the blitz era? haha
@tomimpala
@tomimpala 4 жыл бұрын
There's tonnes of stuff funny about dr who that I missed cause I was young and took it sooo seriously haha
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 4 жыл бұрын
The Paradigm Daleks are a good idea, as they give some variety and potential for stories. However their design was lacking
@dmaxwell910901
@dmaxwell910901 4 жыл бұрын
WW2 era planes being able to destroy a post time-war dalek ship is just... asinine.
@DalekTheSupreme
@DalekTheSupreme 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the Doctor himself says that the Dalek ship is a wreck, just barely operating.
@dmaxwell910901
@dmaxwell910901 4 жыл бұрын
@@DalekTheSupreme Human weaponry from the 1940s should still have no effect on Dalek armour.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t they just take out that one very exposed machine. The Dalek ship is outright a wreck
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 4 жыл бұрын
@@dmaxwell910901 You watch Resolution?
@dmaxwell910901
@dmaxwell910901 4 жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 Aye, and that Dalek's casting was mostly constructed from Earth metal. It makes sense that it'd be easier to destroy.
@mrandrews3616
@mrandrews3616 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else wish there was a Dad's Army cameo in this episode?
@Trev359
@Trev359 4 жыл бұрын
But Dad's Army were the Home Guard. They were attached to the Army. This was the RAF
@GodzillaRex100
@GodzillaRex100 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only person in the world that like the design
@timothybarnett1006
@timothybarnett1006 4 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with the NPD design is the conflict between the macro scale simplicity of a bold primary colour scheme and finickity over-design on the details such as the eye stalk.
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a really interesting observation, so like a plain yellow Tonka toy with a fine metal filigree detail on the bonnet, it would just feel all wrong.
@SegaNintendoGuy64
@SegaNintendoGuy64 4 жыл бұрын
GO GO DALEK RANGERS! MIGHTY MORPHING DALEK RANGERS!
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I maintain itd be better if the Cult of Skaro created the Paradigm (entirely new philosophy and tactics)
@somerandomguy2073
@somerandomguy2073 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting thought, actually. If Jast or Thay had secretly survived in the 1930s, then Caan could go off and do his thing with Davros, while the other one spends 10 years finding the projenator and setting up this confrontation. Plus it would make more sense that it isn't considered to be a pure dalek because they were specifically designed to be different and "think as the enemy thinks." It doesn't involve time travel or have the "how did they survive a genocide that literally targeted their Davros cells" plot hole, plus the reason the projenator rejects them actually makes sense.
@Tymbus
@Tymbus 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the end of this story was weak but great review! Happy Christmas!
@ulysses2921
@ulysses2921 4 жыл бұрын
5:44 I’ve had this exact poster on my wall for years, but it’s canvas so it’s lasted all this time!
@benw4409
@benw4409 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great episode... until the Paradigm reveal themselves. Then it gets really silly and rushed. Which is a shame because everything else up that point is great, and I love the scheming Ironsides and Eleven getting genuinely mad and frustrated at their continued schemes.
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 4 жыл бұрын
12 days until series 12.
@ospreyphil8995
@ospreyphil8995 3 жыл бұрын
7:40 look carefully when the Crucible explodes. You can see one ship fly off
@SunniestAutumn
@SunniestAutumn 4 жыл бұрын
I know tomorrow will be the Asylum. I know how it's going to go. I know I am not ready for it, not again. I can't do it
@patrickglover7506
@patrickglover7506 4 жыл бұрын
I liked this episode and the new design too. Shame they got canned. The bit with the spitfires was fun, but it's almost like Star Wars Death Star fight.
@bladersmosh
@bladersmosh 4 жыл бұрын
Am I one of few who likes the Paradigm Dalek designs?
@PercyandDuckfan94
@PercyandDuckfan94 4 жыл бұрын
You're not the only one who likes the designs!
@bladersmosh
@bladersmosh 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I like the designs, they were a wasted opportunity. I wish they stuck to their original plans and shouldn't let backlash get in the way.
@tritonk1759
@tritonk1759 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 4 жыл бұрын
I quite like the New Paradigm Daleks, but "paradigm Dalek" doesn't add up. Paradigm is a noun, not an adjective, and it means an example, model or pattern. "Paradigm Dalek" just means "pattern Dalek"... which makes little sense. It needs the word "new" in front of it, to distinguish the new look from the "old" paradigm/pattern/model that it replaced.
@DalekTheSupreme
@DalekTheSupreme 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the designs. I do wish they had been given more to do in this episode and that they stuck to the change in future episodes.
@SegaNintendoGuy64
@SegaNintendoGuy64 4 жыл бұрын
Next Time: Daleks in a Asylum, They don’t destroy each other which is false, Not showing the old ones, And the return of the Bullshit Divorce subplot.
@kaledmasterme
@kaledmasterme 4 жыл бұрын
The NPDs were badly served in the first, mainly because the concept design was badly translated when the props were built. The neckbin being altogether too tall and set forward, the hump being too big, the plastic colour scheme etc... There are numerous fan images showing the original concept design translated faithfully and it works so very well. They get a small redesign in Asylum which is hardly ever noticed, a smaller almost non existent hump, the new colour scheme... Shame they were discarded so quickly.
@Squid1562
@Squid1562 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the new designs should have kept the original dalek silhouette, but had the appearance of the NDP daleks. There's plenty of images online to demonstrate this.
@Tayvin4042
@Tayvin4042 Жыл бұрын
My personal theory on the Eternal Dalek was that it was the carrier for the Progenitor Device, allowing for more Daleks to be made. As long as this Dalek is alive, more Daleks can be made, thus they will be Eternal.
@LaurenceGill2000
@LaurenceGill2000 4 жыл бұрын
My pet theory was always that the eternal Dalek was primarily focussed on the preservation of the race above all else ie making sure the daleks are an eternal presence in time
@AdamJasper18
@AdamJasper18 2 жыл бұрын
I have very fond memories of watching this episode for the first time with my family. Absolutely loving the first half for everything you mentioned, then laughing together at the new Teletubbies Daleks. It's a shame, because for the most part the new design does look good, but the very vibrant colours just made them feel childish. I remember really liking the way it looked after 2000 years in the final episode. I feel if they had much less extreme colours they would have been received a lot better.
@crimsondynamo615
@crimsondynamo615 4 жыл бұрын
We could have had another cool Dalek Civil War story with the Paradigm Daleks against the remaining Time War era Daleks. God with how it is suggested they have multiple weapons, imagine a special weapons paradigm Dalek.
@tTaseric
@tTaseric 3 жыл бұрын
There's a theory floating around that the Dalek Paradigm led by the Dalek Supreme were in a war against the Time War Daleks led by Davros. Basically the theory says that the reason Davros attempted to steal the Doctor's regeneration energy in The Witches Familiar is because he knew that his Daleks would never be able to win against the superior Daleks. The Parliament of the Daleks (as seen in Asylum of the Daleks) was established to create a peace between the two factions and to stop the Paradigms from wiping them all out.
@randomericthings7506
@randomericthings7506 Жыл бұрын
I like the Paradigm Daleks. Although only as high ranking officers that command forces of standard bronze Daleks. Drones: lead squads and command ships. Strategists: strategize new ways to conquer. Scientists: experiment with technology and genetics. Eternals: lead time travel schemes and are engineered to preserve the continuation and purity of the Dalek race. All these having three to five Paradigm Daleks leading a room of the standard Daleks. That’s what I thought they were going to do, but they show up two more times and then never show up again. We only had one episode where they were seen coexisting with the standard Daleks.
@bullymaguire2569
@bullymaguire2569 3 жыл бұрын
"you do not require tea" I didn't notice that this was in the actual episode.
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN 2 жыл бұрын
“You do not require tea”
@Mrazmatmahmood
@Mrazmatmahmood 4 жыл бұрын
Will you do Day and Time of the Doctor as part of Dalekcember?
@midgetwars1
@midgetwars1 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with the new Daleks is that they were WAY too colourful. I mean it's bright colours and as you said before the daleks looked metallic in the reboot and they just look plastic here. And they're TOO THICC.
@BH-98
@BH-98 4 жыл бұрын
midgetwars1 one thing asylum of the Daleks does better in is the colours of the paradigm Daleks are toned down & look more metallic, & it looks great. Sadly it’s the last time we see them & they’re barely utilised in the episode.
@Spike-Prime
@Spike-Prime 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but after all these years, those "Progenitor" Daleks still look goofy as hell. They went to the trouble of updating and modernising the Daleks, finally making them look like they're tough and metallic, and they replace it with these plastic, fragile-looking Tonka Toys. They are by far the least threatening-looking Daleks in Dr Who history, they look like "Baby's first Dalek" to me.
@DDayJayke
@DDayJayke 3 жыл бұрын
So this story was written before Matt was casted, so this could have been a David Tennant episode. And also the Paradigm Daleks, do appear quite a bit more. There was backlash but each color played different roles, such as Strategist, Supreme, Drone, Scientist, etc. We see them again during the Pandorica arc.
@JAProductions494
@JAProductions494 3 жыл бұрын
17:46 uuuum, I wouldn’t call Power of the Daleks complete AT ALL! 😂 You know why
@EditedAF987
@EditedAF987 3 жыл бұрын
I mean when another story is better despite barely any of it’s footage existing, you know you f**ked up.
@royalewithcheese9291
@royalewithcheese9291 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh...Victory of the Daleks. For what is essentially a remake of The Power of the Daleks, I still have a real soft spot for this episode. Churchill and the WW2 setting work really well and while redesigning the most iconic villian of the show's long history isn't necessarily a bad idea the fact they are so underutilised and only appeared again as glorified cameos really wasted their potential. That being said who doesn't want to see spitfires shooting at a Dalek ship.
@JamesBrophy
@JamesBrophy 4 жыл бұрын
It's a bit of a mess but it was nice to see the daleks actually out place the doctor for once. So disapointing that after the adventure game they failed to do anything with this design. It might seem a weird thing to reccomend but immediately following this episode there was the kids comic the only good dalek and the free pc adventure games. The game has full (if woefully directed) audio from the cast, it explores the restoration of the daleks and skaro and gives you a lot more experience with the new dalek designs. It was certanly my reason for being really disappointed by this new series relegating them to being an officer class and then dropping them all together.
@mikiwibu
@mikiwibu 3 жыл бұрын
I have that Victory poster and the Ironside Blueprints on my wall : )
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 4 жыл бұрын
5:52 would you care for some tea lol.
@theentity5201
@theentity5201 4 жыл бұрын
Its a shame some of the props were looking a bit worse for wear when you look at the vent panels on the three time war daleks, the state of the eyestalks (discs being dirty or out of order/shape) the gap between the eyeball and the discs having a metal ringer to patch up the eyestalk that had been battered by years of explosions and the dome being lopsided in some shots. The paint too on the skirt looks a bit rushed or done my hand, you can see flakes of gold on the neck rings and beside some of the orbs. No wander mof wanted new daleks. Weirder the eyestalk seems to have carried over the silver bit between the eyeball and discs when in RTDs era it was all black and shorter onto the new batch of props built for asylum.
@jdzencelowcz
@jdzencelowcz 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who liked the NDP daleks, but yeah, those colors needed to B muted & metallic.
@himynameisben95
@himynameisben95 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe they kept asking Mark Gatiss back to write more scripts after his dreadful track record. Apparently he can write for other things pretty well, but his televised Who material is DIRE. This episode starts well and I actually do like the humanity stuff, but overall his scripts for the show were spotty at best. And he just kept coming back. It all culminated in the monstrosity that is Sleep No More.
@darkwoods1954
@darkwoods1954 3 жыл бұрын
The reveal of the new Daleks seems more like a toy commercial. As you say, they don't actually do anything. Just roll out the new toy product.
@LaytonMathieson
@LaytonMathieson 4 жыл бұрын
The Paradigm Daleks look good in my opinion. The colours are a bit too much, but ignoring that, they're fine. I think they could have looked better if they had a more metallic shine like in Asylum of the Daleks, and instead of the different colours, the white Supreme with an army of dark grey soldiers like the classic era, or depending on whether or not they are imperial Daleks, potentially a black Supreme with an army of white and gold soldiers.
@tTaseric
@tTaseric 3 жыл бұрын
The problems with the Paradigm were the colours and materials used for them, and that the Dalek ship was clearly designed for the shorter Bronze Daleks, so the Paradigm Daleks just looked out of place all the time.
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 4 жыл бұрын
11 dalek stories to go.
@robertmcghintheorca49
@robertmcghintheorca49 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who slightly appreciates the Paradigm Daleks.
@britishnerd3919
@britishnerd3919 4 жыл бұрын
It's a good idea to introduce the Daleks to make the audience feel better about the new doctor, but then has this new doctor lose. Not a great start.
@kinky_afro7720
@kinky_afro7720 4 жыл бұрын
I hate to make you jealous but I have the dalek poster on my wall
@FabianEllis
@FabianEllis 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this episode could have been a great movie! Get a filmmaker with a vision and something to say, combine them with Mark Gatiss’ ideas and just give us a 90 minute story set in this world, flesh everything out properly and make the Daleks scary!
@dodobirdfisher4697
@dodobirdfisher4697 3 жыл бұрын
I really think this episode needed to be a two-parter so that the new Daleks could actually get the chance to do something. I know that Dalek two-parters had already become commonplace and it might be a bit eye-rolling to see another one so soon, but the alternative was going an entire decade without any good Dalek stories because the entire flow of their continuity was destroyed when they had to be retconned. I’m sure they had some good plans of where to take these Daleks, but since they were so poorly presented they had to be scrapped, meaning all future Dalek stories felt contrived as you didn’t have the single inkling of why or how the Daleks were at this stage in their life.
@doughorton3635
@doughorton3635 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that the first half of the episode was better than the second. For me, it was the Spitfires in space that ruined this episode. I thought that was just dumb.
@goblin457
@goblin457 4 жыл бұрын
I've been a fan for 30 years I don't mind these Daleks either would have worked well as the supremes with normal Daleks maybe not all where needed maybe 1 with normal Daleks in a new colour scheme would have worked better but as I said I quite like them
@6Stevo
@6Stevo Жыл бұрын
I was dissapointed that they didn't give the Paradigm Daleks a chance. Replacing the Daleks. Maybe not. But I would've liked to have seen a later episode cover a war between the 2 different Daleks.
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