Doctors, patients: Efforts to block opioid addiction are also blocking treatment

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FOX6 News Milwaukee

FOX6 News Milwaukee

4 жыл бұрын

Just walking up to a pharmacy window is enough to send Tina Kasten's brain into overdrive. Kasten, who lives in Manitowoc, takes Suboxone as part of her treatment for heroin addiction. She said she has experienced delays in filling her prescription a half-dozen times over the last year. via.fox6now.com/APloX

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@silencedogood5766
@silencedogood5766 3 жыл бұрын
It’s criminal what they are doing to chronic pain patients.
@ElizabethF2222
@ElizabethF2222 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and what they are doing to some legit doctors who are just trying to give their patients relief is despicable. The DEA and the FDA are the criminals. They are punishing legitimate pain patients unnecessarily because a few bad apples have destroyed the whole bunch. Our drug laws are punitive, ancient and need to be revised.
@CrashOutTiming718
@CrashOutTiming718 8 ай бұрын
🤔 hmm now for me suboxone works better in low doses for my pain versus oxy
@chriswhorror6658
@chriswhorror6658 2 жыл бұрын
Suboxone saves my life and my family. I’m now tapering off after 1 year of suboxone use and clean.
@SuperBlueeyes89
@SuperBlueeyes89 4 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how they still treat addicts even knowing is a disease my blood pressure peaks to 325\260 when im in withdrawl
@forrestclooney7399
@forrestclooney7399 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the same issue. I actually passed out multiple times my first time ever getting clean.
@Kayanimated
@Kayanimated Жыл бұрын
Damn my blood pressure goes down. Around 85-90-50 when I’m in withdrawl which seems like everyday because these dealers sell garbage. Thankfully I went to a doctor yesterday but I’ve had wait for my doctor to send it to a different pharmacy, as the one I had it sent to wouldn’t accept new patients. Never heard of that. But I’ll be starting it tomorrow morning 🙌🏻
@r.williamcomm7693
@r.williamcomm7693 3 жыл бұрын
OMG. Give the patients a few extra strips or tablets for the first 6 months. It’s not abused. If they would let them sell it cheaper & put it over the counter then things would get better.
@ronaldclayton824
@ronaldclayton824 3 жыл бұрын
Stay away from Walmart, Walgreens,and CVS and you'll get your meds.These large pharmacys are making it harder for people trying to get better,find a small personally owned pharmacy and you won't have any trouble getting your meds.
@ElizabethF2222
@ElizabethF2222 2 жыл бұрын
OMG So true! I'm in Houston and have had no problems filling my subs at HEB pharmacy. They never have run out in 16 years I have been on subs. Dr. says it's just a regular med for me, like insulin to a diabetic. I'll be on it for the rest of my life and she will prescribe them to me as well. Mom and pop pharmacies the way to go for sure if you don't have HEB, which I think are only in Texas. I feel for those in smaller towns for having to deal with this BS. Doctor prescribes, pharmacists fill. Not up to some idiot pharmacist who didn't go to medical school to intervene. Fill the damn RX and help your customers and people trying to get off heroin and other opiates. There have been deaths of people who OD'd and died because they couldn't get medication assisted treatment. That's a crying shame. Better to let a few guilty ones go who are selling it than letting even ONE person OD and die because they couldn't get their meds. It's disgusting. DEA and FDA to blame as well. Shame on them and those despicable pharmacists who think they are doctors.
@Quiter19
@Quiter19 2 жыл бұрын
I take it in New Zealand. I have to take it in the pharmacy like methadone! Annoying, but, I am very grateful.
@ElizabethF2222
@ElizabethF2222 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quiter19 Oh wow, seriously? I get 90 per month. No worries at all, filled all at once. Just have to go to pharmacy and pick it up. They really shouldn't stigmatize it like that. I hope you don't have to go every day?
@z7a0c7k
@z7a0c7k 2 жыл бұрын
I was just told by my pharmacy after three years that my insurance won’t cover name brand. This is from a local pharmacy. Generic does not work as well. So annoying.
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quiter19 That's draconian. Maybe they'll let you get weekly pickup eventually. Bupe doesn't give the merest whisper of a 'High'.. so can't see the need for strictness.
@toejamisgreat
@toejamisgreat 2 жыл бұрын
Suboxone is legal in Canada you don’t even need a prescription, just go to your pharmacy or e.r they’ll give a witnessed dose. Once you build trust you can take months worth home at a time and it’s free. The USA seems like an awful. Be thankful most the world doesn’t have to live there
@abes3925
@abes3925 Жыл бұрын
Wtf that’s sound so cool. Yeah in the US getting subs is expensive asf. Also pharmacist treat you like shit over her when they see what you’re taking.
@alexpratt99
@alexpratt99 3 жыл бұрын
It’s gotten better honestly when I was 20 in 2015 it was much harder doctors were all full they could only have like 150 patients it was ridiculous but now I’m 2020 in pa it’s much easier to get your medication honestly it has gotten better
@ElizabethF2222
@ElizabethF2222 2 жыл бұрын
I've been on subs since 2005. I can say you are spot on. But I'm in Houston, a big city, and as long as I go to HEB Grocery pharmacies I'm fine. They have never run out since 2005. Never go to Walgreens, CVS, Kroger or Walmart. Those pharmacists think they are doctors. They are not. The limiting of patients sub doctors can treat is a crying shame too, but the regulations have relaxed a bit. Not a lot, but it is much easier these days. I only do video visits as well. So easy now.
@ericabluth8747
@ericabluth8747 2 жыл бұрын
when i go the pharmacists look like they think i’m a degenerate 😂 nobody knows about my addiction except those pharmacists and it throws them off every time
@playipstreamsolutions5538
@playipstreamsolutions5538 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never be able to understand why is so easy to get oxys n Xanax from the pharmacy, they ALWAYS have them in stock but It took me 3 hours to find a pharmacy that had Suboxone in stock after calling 23 different pharmacies and I was only prescribed 21 strips weekly!! Thank God my Dr called Wal-Mart pharmacy and asked them if they can keep them in stock because I will buy them every week
@lacialysia6913
@lacialysia6913 3 жыл бұрын
5 years on Suboxone longer if you count the streets! I haven’t relapsed once. 2 days on generic Alvogen and I’m having needle fantasy’s! Wtf are they doing! I’m so worried I’ll be taking this shit for the Rest of my life! I’ll be switching back to brand name.
@mikerenza2253
@mikerenza2253 3 жыл бұрын
Been on 12 years and came off for 18 months. Was in withdrawal the hole time. I’d rather die than go thru that long of pain and discomfort.alvogen is no where near the original or dr ready or sand is. If alvogen is working don’t switch
@KussDamato
@KussDamato 3 жыл бұрын
im on the alvogen AN 415 tablets and I didnt notice a difference. is it just not as strong for you?
@shawnallen2731
@shawnallen2731 3 жыл бұрын
I just got prescribed Alvogen strips and they suck. Way weaker than brand strips. I'm going to ask my dr. To write tablets to see how that works.
@tee5210
@tee5210 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t have any issues on Alvogen strips. Been on subs for years. Guess everyone is different. Trouble I’m having is getting insurance to cover the sublocade shot. Plan to get it for a few months then stop. It will gradually dissolve from the body with minimal WD
@abes3925
@abes3925 Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed the mom and pop pharmacies are way more nicer than the big chain ones like CVS who treat you like shit when they see you’re taking subs.
@valkor73
@valkor73 Жыл бұрын
so true they shut down most of them in my area
@chrislemaster2695
@chrislemaster2695 10 ай бұрын
CVS- Come Visit Satin
@NiceguyEddie2828
@NiceguyEddie2828 3 жыл бұрын
I know lots of people are wondering how yellow films work (alvogen) It works fine for me, i’ve been switching back and forth. Subutex to suboxone and different generics of films and srips... I can tell difference between pills, but these films work ok for me ( the problem is that I can’t stop taking them)
@playipstreamsolutions5538
@playipstreamsolutions5538 3 жыл бұрын
They work pretty good!!
@idkwhowashere1218
@idkwhowashere1218 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind also, that for those who are in recovery from drug/substance abuse, it’s way better and attainable to remain drug/substance free if you have a positive mindset and an iron-clad support system. Taking medication alone is not enough to keep you on the “wagon”☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️ I learned this while I was in rehab. Just in that week alone that I was there away from my family, I learned so many coping skills, met others like myself, bonded with a lot of them. Met wonderful nurses, therapists, doctors, just a kind caring nonjudgmental staff! Whomever is in charge of training did a wonderful job! I never intended to become an addict but it happened and I can actually talk about it now without embarrassment, or guilt. I love all of my doctors involved with my care and well-being, mentally and physically, we all work together as a team and I’m not treated as just a “number” or an addict, but with respect and understanding! I’ve learned so much and while I wouldn’t wish addiction on my worst enemy, the experience has taught me a lot! Never will I ever judge another addict, not sayin that I use to but I’ve caught myself in the past shaking my head. Nowadays, if I happen to cross paths with one, I’ll look at them with the essence of knowing what they are going through and that I completely understand it. My whole entire outlook on life has changed the past two and half years.
@Mr.Phoreskin
@Mr.Phoreskin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that bit of inspiration. I hope one day soon I will have a similar story😩
@NameName-do9hj
@NameName-do9hj 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone needs or wants to be opioid free living on subs/methadone is ok too As long as you don't have idiot chemist like this !
@jonathanfrost.8962
@jonathanfrost.8962 4 жыл бұрын
I have also used Kratom for a month to get over Suboxone & also methadone withdrawls, then add & used LDN Low dose naltrexone and this cut out the hellish withdrawls & then to get my brain totally back I used micro dose ibogain but it's illegal in the USA now so you have to order it or go to a iboga center in Canada or mexico. If anybody needs help or info please message me there is hope!!!!!
@munozjordan70
@munozjordan70 Жыл бұрын
lol kratom da fuk
@peternorthrup6274
@peternorthrup6274 Жыл бұрын
Today another 1000 people died. The government needs to get the hell out of the way and let people get better. 8 years suboxon for me. I lead a great and a productive life.
@Anthony_Spilotro
@Anthony_Spilotro Жыл бұрын
I waited a year on the wait list to get on a methadone program...calling them everyday and practically begging. What pissed me off more was guys I knew getting on in just a couple months and werent even serious about getting clean as they were still using valium and clonazepam
@Oamiano
@Oamiano Жыл бұрын
Bruh you gotta be doing something wrong. I went in and that same day I got a 25mg dose. After only 1 1/2 months, I’ve managed to get all my take home’s. Maybe try going in instead of calling?
@Anthony_Spilotro
@Anthony_Spilotro Жыл бұрын
@@Oamiano I've long since weaned off the program and have been clean from everything for 12 years now. But back in the early 2000's that's the way it was. (At least here in Nova Scotia) The health care system wanted methadone to be an absolute last resort. There were many programs you had to complete (Some of them 3+ months long) which were one hour meetings everyday at the addiction services building , you also had to be seeing an addictions counselor everywhere with no missed appointments. I even went to a long term facility called The Talbot house located in Cape Breton NS for 6 months. And Even after all that..I still relapsed. I never felt so hopeless in my life. But it was only after all that , that I was accepted to get on the methadone program. Nowadays...yes you walk in and they put you on rite away. It's all a harm reduction thing now because so many people were dying waiting to get on the program.
@gtavtheavengergunnerlegend3340
@gtavtheavengergunnerlegend3340 2 жыл бұрын
That's why you stick half your script back and stock up so you DON'T run out.with suboxone you CAN NOT RUN OUT
@Dewenterize
@Dewenterize 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I realized that I could take 6mg. instead of 8 and be fine. So for a 28 day script, saving 2mg. a day that's an extra week of medication in case I cannot make it do the doctor. Do that every month and you will have an emergency stash. Or see the doctor before the medication is due, and not on the same day when you are completely out and still have to go to the pharmacy before it closes.
@Kayanimated
@Kayanimated Жыл бұрын
Sucks living like that tho tbh but in all reality you have to do it
@Dementia_Joe
@Dementia_Joe Жыл бұрын
How arrogant of these pharmacies to try and override the doctors orders... They shouldn't have that right...
@calebgray3219
@calebgray3219 3 жыл бұрын
I did have issues at first then not now I do I have a different clinic and the restrictions are maken it hard on me.
@TKD187
@TKD187 3 жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous that they're putting that much restriction on Suboxone but I could go to a doctor right now and get 120 hydrocodones no problem and no questions asked at the pharmacy it doesn't make any sense
@playipstreamsolutions5538
@playipstreamsolutions5538 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! Sometimes I feel it's a setup
@mariabotelho5689
@mariabotelho5689 2 жыл бұрын
They want people to stay addicted to this shit. If every body got better then they would not make money. They don’t give a shit about people, it’s all about the money.
@Skankhunt-hl9zj
@Skankhunt-hl9zj Жыл бұрын
No you can’t nobody prescribes painkillers anymore and even if they do it’s so restricted now you barely get anything they make you just through hoops to maybe get prescribed something shit like tramadol.
@vuli1647
@vuli1647 8 ай бұрын
interesting. we cant get this medicine in the pharmacy but only were they treat addiction.
@mikerenza2253
@mikerenza2253 3 жыл бұрын
Been on 12 years of suboxone and came off for 18 months and still was in withdrawals so I went back on. I recommend staying on no more than 3 or 4 years. Also I got switched to dr ready sand they were weaker but I managed. Then I switched to alvogen and I was starting withdraw after 2 hours.so if you can manage with alvogen brand do it
@racheljersey8247
@racheljersey8247 3 жыл бұрын
Girl I'm going through the same b.s!! I had suboxone name brand for 6 years! No problem.... 2 years ago I go to get my script & its a generic !!! Sandoz was great! But of course indiviour maker of suboxone, & Sandoz stopped making them! Now, on mylans & I feel like shit everyday!!! I have a Y/T channel check it out. Rachel Jersey
@eighterthabest9024
@eighterthabest9024 3 жыл бұрын
I had my insurance directly deny my doctor's orders for name brand because the generics weren't working as well. Didn't know they could just say "nah, we don't care what your doctor says you needed, you pay for it then!"
@jonathanchapman7421
@jonathanchapman7421 4 жыл бұрын
I actually have no problem getting mine
@ElizabethF2222
@ElizabethF2222 3 жыл бұрын
Me either. I'm in Houston and they always have them.
@griffisjm
@griffisjm 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, im in Raleigh NC, pretty much every pharmacy has them always. And I've never been turned away!
@nihiloser
@nihiloser 3 жыл бұрын
I struggle from name brand to them pushing the generic, which isn't as effective in my opinion. It takes 5 days to go thru, I'm from Albuquerque, nm
@JohnDoe-pu9nb
@JohnDoe-pu9nb 3 жыл бұрын
In jersey there are only a few stores tha have them
@famousbowl9926
@famousbowl9926 3 жыл бұрын
Same. As long as your not all sketchy lookin lol
@ibogaineclinicinc
@ibogaineclinicinc 3 жыл бұрын
Peopel do not realise what they are getting into until they stop taking the drugs.
@editingreality4779
@editingreality4779 2 жыл бұрын
Im at the VA and since the mandates of vaccines for Covid many doctors are quitting and now we’re short on doctors to prescribe this medicine. Some are seeing doctors through virtual tv in other states even Tennessee and these doctors are extremely strict with early renewals so you better be prepared to go withput
@irenadeedee2082
@irenadeedee2082 3 жыл бұрын
What was the point of that showing suboxone strips and oxys ??? I have been on SUBOXONE now for 3 years first I started of with 20 mg now im down to 2 mg... i find that its just one drug switching to another drug i want to have a family and kids but i have to get of this shit first before i even think about it. Its so depressing GOD BLESS everyone who’s trying to get off. There just a rip off here in Australia for money 💰 money 💰.
@pharmacy7614
@pharmacy7614 3 жыл бұрын
If any one want suboxone for opioid addiction or for chronic pain we can provide u all over the world services are available at reasonable rates also
@ChazinFl1
@ChazinFl1 Жыл бұрын
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@hermanllamas9775
@hermanllamas9775 3 жыл бұрын
vivtrol is a blocker for patient for people in recovery furthur down the road not dealing with withdrawals. It's insane to provide vivitrol to a patient who got off of opioids dealing with PAWS post acute withdrawal symtoms which can last for months. burtal!. Suboxone needs to be more available, low barrier for people struggling with OUD (opioid use disorder). If people can't get Suboxone they will do what they have to to not be sick!
@dylanham1993
@dylanham1993 3 жыл бұрын
I live in houston tx and totally understand this every month I'm calling pharmacies because unlike most doctors my doctor calls my prescription in and I HAVE to make sure it's in stock before going to the dr and I'm almost ALWAYS calling anywhere from 5-10 or more trying to find them in stock and I'm having trouble in a HUGE CITY I can imagine small states/cities.
@pharmacy7614
@pharmacy7614 3 жыл бұрын
If any one want suboxone for opioid addiction or for chronic pain we can provide u all over the world services are available
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@ElizabethF2222
@ElizabethF2222 3 жыл бұрын
@@michealvarela7017 Dude, I'm not trying to do psychedelic drugs, I've been off drugs with subs for 15 years.
@EagleClaw32
@EagleClaw32 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually a lot easier in small Towns and cities....
@EagleClaw32
@EagleClaw32 2 жыл бұрын
@@pharmacy7614 yeah? Cuz I live in Canada and know someone who needs SUB 8mg a day and can bearly cover the $$ what's weird is we would always find $$ for a fix
@Layingflat
@Layingflat 3 жыл бұрын
That’s trouble, that poor lady.
@bigfootanon6896
@bigfootanon6896 4 жыл бұрын
Been dealing with the same shit for 3 years in michigan.. trying g kratom now but well see how it goes
@jonathanfrost.8962
@jonathanfrost.8962 4 жыл бұрын
BigFoot Anon It can be addictive also but with Suboxone some have paws for months or years or can never get off because they can stay in a withdrawls state for a really long time that can be horrible. Many can handle coming off Kratom but can't handle coming off Suboxone.
@jonathanfrost.8962
@jonathanfrost.8962 4 жыл бұрын
BigFoot Anon I used iboga to get my brain back but used Kratom for a month then switched the opoid blocker naltrexone for a few weeks. I used micro dose ibogain capsules and wow my brain came back and now I feel better than I ever did on drugs. Don't give up hope there is real hope.
@idkwhowashere1218
@idkwhowashere1218 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanfrost.8962 You’ve discovered a regimen that’s perfect for you. I’m working on that. I’ve been on subs for about two years now. No heroin, just opioids. Only one type~norco was my weakness and I don’t have to tell you about the withdrawals and the disconnected brain functions, all haywire. To be honest I don’t know if I can ever be able to stop but that doesn’t deter me from trying. I just don’t want to end up relapsing, that part of my life was a total nightmare. The entire time that I was taking pills, felt as if I were in a foggy haze, if you can relate?..?. After receiving treatment it’s like I can see so more vividly now and my entire body is alive and I feel that I can now accomplish goals that I set out to do for myself and my for my family! Maybe one day, but in all aspects, however long that I need I will take because I would never ever want to go back to that life. I put myself and my family through enough!
@Mr.Phoreskin
@Mr.Phoreskin 3 жыл бұрын
@BigFootAnon how did the kratom work for you? I have been thinking about trying it to get off subs. Thank you in advance and Merry Christmas
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@stevenguertin890
@stevenguertin890 2 жыл бұрын
Well.. I never have this problem.. I live in Maine in a small town and I tell you what.. it takes me about a hour and I go to my doctor office and than 2 hours at pharmacy and we have our medicine.. been on it for a few years now.. if it wasn't for Suboxone I wouldn't be the man I am today.. I probably would not be here at all if it wasn't for Suboxone..
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy 9 ай бұрын
@stevenguertin890 What pharmacy takes 2 hrs to give you your meds? That's way too long to wait. I'm in Brooklyn. It takes me 20 mins at the doctor's office once a month. Then I call the CVS pharmacy and when I get there my meds are waiting for me. Literally in and out in like 5 mins. You should try other places cause they're making you wait way too long that's unbelievable.
@cr-nd8qh
@cr-nd8qh Жыл бұрын
Wow I'm glad I get mine from the VA
@patrickk.6295
@patrickk.6295 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Never had an issue in almost 11 years.
@DropdownDropdown
@DropdownDropdown 4 жыл бұрын
i detoxed from 120mg of methadone to 30mg (methadone is unique in that it causes severe w/d if you take suboxone while on it at doses higher than 30mg/day) met my suboxone dr in 2008, he wanted to make sure the methadone was out of my system fully so he asked me what would work for me for the week , since i had no insurance i knew what to ask for 70 8mg dilaudid 80mg a day i was on 16mg a day for months and was given 3 roxicodone 30mg and snorted them nnd i got super high,,,,,,,point is i went back on methadone because suboxone was all a crockof shit and had a waaaaay lower affinity for mu receptor than120mg methadone, i could take 200mg of roxicodone and not feel it.
@DropdownDropdown
@DropdownDropdown 3 жыл бұрын
i didnt mention that i had my wisdom teeth pulled in dec 2008 and i was scripted 50 dilaudid 8mg and 50 methadone 10mg , and i also had a few patches. After i had nno pain meds i went back on the 16mg/day suboxone and when i took it i immediately noticed that i had severe pain in my mouth, i was diagnosed with Burning Mouth Syndrome, it's an incurable disease and the suboxone did nothing for the pain i needed a full agonist that i could afford w;/o insurance i called my dr office and asked to speak to him and i asked if we could switch to methadone and he said that's fine and i could get a script to for it i let after hanging up the phone i had to get the methadone i was in agony. i needed a full mu agonist with no ceiling, subs are partial mu agonists with a 32mg ceiling. Yes suboxone works well to keep withdrawls away, but for me i just have to have a full mu agonist opioid to take away this nerve damage plus methadone is an nmda antagonist, out of the 17urs of being on methadone/buprenorphine i started subutex for a year, then in methadone clinic from 2004 through spring 2008, then i got on suboxone for about 8 months maybe 9, and ive been on methadone ever since
@valkor73
@valkor73 Жыл бұрын
@@DropdownDropdown me too subs too weak
@ChazinFl1
@ChazinFl1 Жыл бұрын
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@wyattmccoy4959 3 жыл бұрын
Walgreens gives me problems every time
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@silencedogood5766
@silencedogood5766 3 жыл бұрын
They are breaking the law get a lawyer and file lawsuit if doctor prescribed it they need to fill it.
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 2 жыл бұрын
@@silencedogood5766 yes it’s illegal unless it’s too soon to fill it since your last.
@jathedoldsman4668
@jathedoldsman4668 2 жыл бұрын
The symptoms affected by the opiates afterwards that people don't want to be on them obviously not being titrated to what feel most comfortable with
@vikingkrigare5329
@vikingkrigare5329 2 жыл бұрын
"it doesn't give the euphoria" 😂 well give a couple of mg's to someone who hasn't taking it before...
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 2 жыл бұрын
I wish it did have a lift to it....Have never felt the merest tickle from subutex ..not even at the beginning of them.
@vikingkrigare5329
@vikingkrigare5329 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oakleaf700 well maybe it's that individual, like codeine. Buprenorphine is a quite potent opioid but it sure isn't like H or Oxy when it comes to euphoria
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 2 жыл бұрын
@@vikingkrigare5329 Codeine I did used to get a sort off speedy euphoria from..But Bupe, not at all. Maybe as my receptors have been ''blown'' by methadone &c over time :( I transferred to Bupe {Subutex} tablets {Indivior brand} , and initially just felt a huge dysphoria. Wanted to transfer back to methadone ''Physeptone'' brand, and the doc would have allowed it. I said I'd brazen it out til when the next script was due , and my body luckily ''settled'' a bit, the dysphoria passed, but I still don't feel the merest opioid 'warmth' from subs. But I have heard in prisons, Subbies have a value, so they must clearly give someone a ''lift''. Of course, the gold standard for a lift is heroin, but I'm too old for that malarkey now. Wish I'd never even ''discovered' it.
@vikingkrigare5329
@vikingkrigare5329 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oakleaf700 yeah bupe has just exploded over here because it is so available, comes in in thousands and thousands from France and from the substitution programs. From what l know most people get that high from bupe in the beginning, but after 3-4 days maximum a week there is nothing, after it only works to not get sick. But to abuse it they take a few days of break or/and mix with a potent bensodiazepine. But I believe you, I've heard many who doesn't like bupe at all and it is not like heroine or Oxy. I also know lots of guys who are on methadone and they say they could never switch to buprenorphine again because it wont help them. Strange drug bupe. But it helps me to stay on the right side now since I got into the substitution program. And I'm really glad for it, finally I can focus on my kids and family to stay "sober" and be a good dad to them
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 2 жыл бұрын
@@vikingkrigare5329 Well done! :) Yes, your Children will benefit. Bupe does give a ''Clearer'' head. Are you in Europe? I think France was the 'Leader' in Bupe. I tried going ''abstinent'' in France once..{On a holiday} and relied on ''Neo Codion '' and 'Paregorique', but neither really helped with withdrawals. The people I feel sorry for are those in Russia.. Putin's govt absolutely won't allow methadone OR bupe.....and the addicts there have brutal treatments involving abstinence only. Krokodil looks horrendous {From you tube videos}
@Randaddy25
@Randaddy25 Жыл бұрын
I've applied a good rx card to my sub script for 7 years now. And STILL, EVERY time I go to get it filled, they try to charge me full price.
@alexpratt99
@alexpratt99 3 жыл бұрын
My mom was on fentynal patches she was very crippled anyway she could get her patches my grandma would pick them up lol but me getting my subs dude I gotta go to therapy I gotta get preauthorization it can’t be called in and most insurance companies only cover either generic or non generic like fuck it’s easier to get fentynal patches than subs it’s fucking ridiculous
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@michealvarela7017 3 жыл бұрын
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@pharmacy7614 3 жыл бұрын
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@deshawn53988
@deshawn53988 Жыл бұрын
Why aren’t these people not denying dispensing the OxyContin
@munozjordan70
@munozjordan70 Жыл бұрын
people selling it so ruin again for other people that actually need it. smh
@brucegasboxingjazzandmore864
@brucegasboxingjazzandmore864 2 ай бұрын
So the pharmacist has the final word over the dr. That's so wrong
@cherylslane9727
@cherylslane9727 2 жыл бұрын
Stay away from Indian drs you won’t get addicted. They cared more about the money then seeing people better. I hate to say it like that but it’s how it happened to me twice!
@burnroe6611
@burnroe6611 4 жыл бұрын
Pharmacy is playing dr and need to step away
@Itsjcold0
@Itsjcold0 4 жыл бұрын
Burn Roe they do that so they don’t get audited I understand but I had have trouble with these assholes before as well
@SuperBlueeyes89
@SuperBlueeyes89 4 жыл бұрын
Yea they do get auditied alot the main ones that get auditied are places like cvs, rite aide if it was still around, walmart/sams, walgreens, and target all the big ones. If audited they have to show the percent of narcotics vs other medication they dispense, and if there narcotics are through the roof they can be sued\fined, or worse shut down. My lawyer i have has sued and fined many pharmacys for different thing two of the most are over prescribing and judging wheather or not they will fill them
@burnroe6611
@burnroe6611 4 жыл бұрын
Cvs constantly screws up. And gives the wrong script. Or forgets to order my sons meds which are related to his heart and dosnt let me know till the day its due . they need to have a better partnership with a set dr.
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@MikeyJ686
@MikeyJ686 Жыл бұрын
It's not the place of a pharmacist to question the prescription, it Thier job to fill it, that's it...period....end of story
@chrismccauley5727
@chrismccauley5727 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me sick if you take my meds I’ll lose everything I’ll definitely withdrawals and then I’ll sew the fuck out somebody I’ll never have to worry again
@suzanneraser6925
@suzanneraser6925 2 жыл бұрын
You only need suboxone for a week or so. Then you need to talk with others that quit.
@ChazinFl1
@ChazinFl1 Жыл бұрын
Disgusting drs keep them on this for YEARS!!! CRIMINAL!
@tomislavdm9180
@tomislavdm9180 2 жыл бұрын
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@ElizabethF2222
@ElizabethF2222 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you? Sounds like the UK maybe? I know they have the NHS which is free, but you can't always get what you need that way. They try to spend the least amount of money as they can. Still, awesome it's free for you guys. I'm in Houston, TX.
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElizabethF2222 NHS gives subutex easily and freely. UK can't be where he's from. By ''Free'' I mean £10 every two weeks for however many you need. If one is ''Exempt'', then the script is free, {eg, if one is over 65, or on certain benefits, or, weirdly, if one needs thyroxine or insulin...then all scripts are free. BUT...the NHS is on it's knees. It's worryingly bad. underfunded and understaffed.
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy 9 ай бұрын
I've been on Suboxone for like 2 months now. Whoever is saying it doesn't give you euphoria is 100% wrong. This stuff gets me high as a kite!!
@Chinothebambino
@Chinothebambino 4 ай бұрын
How much do you take?
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy 4 ай бұрын
@@Chinothebambino 24mg
@Chinothebambino
@Chinothebambino 4 ай бұрын
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy god damn. I took 4mg yesterday after i commented that and have been puking my guts out ever since.
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy 4 ай бұрын
@Chinothebambino Oh wow!! That's awful 😖. Hope you feel better. Yeah I was on the max dose. Had to go to a detox to get clean off the suboxone.
@Chinothebambino
@Chinothebambino 4 ай бұрын
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy thanks, man. Safe to say, I'm never touching this shit again, haha. Hopefully, you'll keep it clean from here on out. Have a good one.
@beastmasterakathabarbaric1509
@beastmasterakathabarbaric1509 4 жыл бұрын
That yellow 1 sucks,only the name brand is effective or that generic pill
@jonathanchapman7421
@jonathanchapman7421 4 жыл бұрын
On subutex
@tonym994
@tonym994 3 жыл бұрын
what's up w/ the yellow? is it weaker?
@69aids420
@69aids420 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonym994 idk i wondered the same
@pharmacy7614
@pharmacy7614 3 жыл бұрын
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@davidallen2026
@davidallen2026 2 жыл бұрын
Pharmacy Heartless fool.
@peternorthrup6274
@peternorthrup6274 Жыл бұрын
How many more have to die before they make this free to all that want it? How many?
@georged7627
@georged7627 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at the this vid before watching it scared the sh#t out of me because I started my Suboxone treatment today and it helps greatly I don't know how I would Live without it now, I thought oh no this video is probs saying that Suboxone is no good for you...I've watched it now and relieved that here in Australia it's easy as going to get milk or bread from the shops to get Suboxone....Stay strong peoples, Take care of yourselves and each other, bye 🤘🏾👍🏾😁 JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY I'm kidding but yeah stay strong people's 🤘🏾
@ElizabethF2222
@ElizabethF2222 2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to live without it. My doctor says it's just another regular medicine I will take for the rest of my life. If you have high blood pressure, you wouldn't stop your blood pressure meds or insulin for a diabetic right? I have been on subs since 2005, never had a dirty UA in all that time. It's legal, safe and it took away all my cravings for heroin and cocaine. I promise you, I'd be dead by now if I didn't have access to subs. I'm in Houston, so they are much easier to come by here, pharmacy wise. I fill my RX at HEB Grocery store pharmacy and they have been wonderful. Been clean since I started on subs. Don't know why people always think they have to get off of them? You don't.
@georged7627
@georged7627 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElizabethF2222 Well done with your journey you sound like a strong minded person keep up the great work 😊🤘🏾👍🏾🙏🏽
@ElizabethF2222
@ElizabethF2222 2 жыл бұрын
@@georged7627 Thank you so much! You made my day! I hope your subs journey is going well. Blessings to you!
@stro382
@stro382 Жыл бұрын
I live in Australia too and I have had a pharmacist that tried to play God with my saboxone and it stressed the hell out of me cause there was nothing I could do if I wanted my dose.
@ChazinFl1
@ChazinFl1 Жыл бұрын
@@ElizabethF2222 DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im so sorry they have brain washed you! :( Your "DR" should be in PRISON!
@Am-ri2us
@Am-ri2us 2 жыл бұрын
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@ChazinFl1
@ChazinFl1 Жыл бұрын
Gross
@suzanneraser6925
@suzanneraser6925 2 жыл бұрын
This state let my wife slip thru the cracks of recovery. She needed suboxone. Not an abusive alcoholic boyfriend.
@suzanneraser6925
@suzanneraser6925 2 жыл бұрын
What's in uncle morphines wallet???
@LittleliaExcision340
@LittleliaExcision340 7 ай бұрын
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@firstfamily8514
@firstfamily8514 3 жыл бұрын
I wish it gave feeling of euphoria why not? It would be nice I’ve been in them for 1 yr and wish I can feel happy because I don’t !!!!!!!! Ever!!
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Zero euphoria . Even Methadone at least gave a coziness.
@firstfamily8514
@firstfamily8514 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oakleaf700 I’d like to try methadone
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 2 жыл бұрын
@@firstfamily8514 My advice? ''Far better not''! It does give a sense of wellbeing, the euphoria isn't nearly as superior as that of true opiates, but I used to buy it decades ago off a workmate. He said ''Try this'' and I did really like the effect, despite feeling a bit nauseous. So I used to buy it regularly, not knowing it was remotely ''addictive'' {Long before the internet was about} Anyway...I stopped taking it, and felt really bad, legs ached like mad, felt really emotional, and had no energy. NOW I know that was withdrawal symptoms, and quite mild ones, compared to subsequent methadone WD's. Methadone is meant to be the worst drug to WD from, hence why people are transferred to Subutex to make it ''easier'' {Hollow laugh} Methadone can also be really 'dangerous' in that doses accumulate over several days, and people have just gone to sleep and never woken up. It's up to you if you want to try it...I wish I'd not , all those decades ago! I never tried Crack, for the simple reason that you can't miss what you never had :)
@pharmacy7614
@pharmacy7614 3 жыл бұрын
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@mikkjaggher4221
@mikkjaggher4221 3 жыл бұрын
Some people are addicted to butt scratching and booger picking. Too each his own I guess. Since when do pharmacist dictate treatment I thought they were just legal drug handlers . So they really want to sell both narcotics and narcotic treatments. How convenient.
@davidkruse4030
@davidkruse4030 2 жыл бұрын
False equivalence
@jathedoldsman4668
@jathedoldsman4668 2 жыл бұрын
But that is a problem people are humans they have the choice to choose that avenue to help them be more comfortable with life instead of leading them to suicide or worse trying other things they could cause mental disturbances. It has been proven from Chinese dens that the medication is accepted by I would say maybe a few hundred thousand users of different substances to change to obtain a life denying that is very dangerous the person has a consciousness that says those medications I call it instead of drugs indeed helps if not using excess of what the user is used to it's been proven since the 1800s in in the Salem asylums which they used heroin in alcohol to relax your patients no different than anybody else in this country these are people that are close to God as well and that should be treating with dignity and need of a safe place to use because it's almost physically and possible to remove the mental illness that cause the situation to occur these drugs you call drugs which are medications actually help this situation to advance society where we need to embrace peace an quantity to help us move forward in our lives it's no different than coffee it's a stimuli food can be a stimuli these are people just coping with life to help them move forward and if you implicate safety regulations insights for injections we would be doing job a favor improving to him that we're not perfect and were willing to help
@stro382
@stro382 Жыл бұрын
Sadly I've noticed some pharmacist like the feeling of power and play God ,knowing full well how sick they can make someone .
@suzanneraser6925
@suzanneraser6925 2 жыл бұрын
This is JWR.
@cria3142
@cria3142 4 жыл бұрын
and all these generics are 100% not all the same... i wish some scientists would do some type of study. some arent even close
@hardcandy7112
@hardcandy7112 4 жыл бұрын
its all about the quality of the compound they used some are old compound or have lost their strength ,also the filler in these pills is another issue , you have big oxycodone or Percocet shape lots of filler , I want my pill strong and powerful to the point of pain .not all that filler .
@truckingwithtobee
@truckingwithtobee 2 жыл бұрын
CVS is the absolute worse! They treat you like shit 9 times out of 10
@MrTrio1972
@MrTrio1972 2 ай бұрын
abscesses
@jonathanchapman7421
@jonathanchapman7421 4 жыл бұрын
They are talking about suboxone and pour out little oxys
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@jonathanchapman7421
@jonathanchapman7421 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it does give euphoria. I've been on it for 6 years
@nimitz1739
@nimitz1739 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Chapman And it’s hard as hell to get off of!
@blackmedusa4745
@blackmedusa4745 4 жыл бұрын
It only gets you high if you are not a addict..
@user-gl4qw6ow4b
@user-gl4qw6ow4b 4 жыл бұрын
Its not euphoric at all..
@nimitz1739
@nimitz1739 4 жыл бұрын
black medusa47 If you’re on them. Skip a day or two. Than take one, I bet you get high.
@dblyolk3535
@dblyolk3535 4 жыл бұрын
I must be lucky cause I never felt euphoria. All my friends on it said they did but not me. Also getting off them wasn’t all that hard to me. But again I had friends who were trying to quit and were acting like they were dying...tapering your subs is what worked for me
@thesourkroutkid
@thesourkroutkid 3 жыл бұрын
600 dollars for a medication that very addictive
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@pharmacy7614 3 жыл бұрын
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@SuperBlueeyes89
@SuperBlueeyes89 4 жыл бұрын
If the fucking doctor writes it u fucking fill it u peice of shit pharmacys its not ure place to tell us weather or not u will fill it thats the doctor u dumb fucks so now i know why theres so many overdoses cause u all wont fill our prescriptions
@jacobeberhart7739
@jacobeberhart7739 Жыл бұрын
So for anyone who needs to have a backup. Get some kratom. It works well. I have gone back to kratom when I've ran out of suboxone and it definitely helped those cravings. Also some people use kratom to get off of suboxone. If anyone has any questions fill free to message me. I been treating people with kratom for a few years now.
@BflyMom_212
@BflyMom_212 Жыл бұрын
I was on a lot of pain meds for 25 years. I got tired of the problems trying to get My meds, and My Doc kept decreasing them. I took only as prescribed. Never abused! I decided in 2019 to go through Withdrawal and get off everything. It was tough, but My pain Doc helped Me. I then went on Suboxone. And rapidly tapered down. But, I didn't have a plan for treating My Chronic pain. I found a Doc an hour and a half away to help Me. I have Cancer and I have had many surgeries. But, no pain meds. So, My New Doc said that Suboxone would help My Chronic pain and he increased the dose when I had surgery. It helped but not like real pain meds do. But I will never go back to pain meds. I take 8mg Suboxone 3 x daily and it helps with My Chronic pain. I have My brain back and My body is slowly getting back to normal after 25 years of Opiates. I travel because, I can't find Doctor's who know enough about Suboxone. It's been a life saver. This video scares Me. I hope I don't run into problems in the future. So far I haven't had any issues with getting Suboxone. 🙏 But I will add, if you suffer from Chronic pain, this might help you.
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