This episode really humanised Karen, it gave her a dimension that not only appreciates Max's chaos but sees it for the wholesale good it can do if allowed.

New Amsterdam covers a lot of modern issues but it’s also so damn funny sometimes, especially all the craziness Max gets up to. Cracks me up every time.

It genuinely warms my heart seeing all the doctors in the comments standing up for chronic pain patients. I've had countless terrible experiences with doctors who assumed the worst and treated me like less than a person because of my chronic pain. My pain is completely debilitating and leaves me bedridden if it's not managed. But I'm seeing so many doctors in these comments that understand that these are genuine medications that some patients just need to survive So I just wanted to make this comment to thank all of you who understand that You're incredible and our medical industry needs more of you 🙏❤️

I was addicted to Opioids at just 14, due to a severe trauma incident that left me near crippled. I gave up and gave in to my sorrows, and the pills were the only thing keeping me going. It was when a friend from my old high school reached out to me and started coming around again, that I decided to fight back and reclaim my life. From the pills and from my limitations. Eight years later, and that friend is now my partner, and I owe everything to her. To those that are still in that dark place: Fight, fight with every fiber of your being. Live to see the next day, because it's worth doing. Don't write the last chapter to your story when the book has so many pages left. You only rob yourself of seeing how it's meant to end.

This is probably one of the most moving things that I have ever seen. As someone who has been effected by the opioid crisis and who works in healthcare, there is a constant tug-a-war going on.

Opioids, while an awful thing, can also be a miracle for people going through intense pain. Pain beyond what most people can imagine. Like my Grandmother for example. She recently had her hip replaced after riding bone-on-bone for about a year. She will get better eventually, but for now, without her Oxycodone, she'd be writhing in pain, unable to stand, sit, or speak without bursting into tears. That exact thing would sometimes happen before the surgery, and before any kind of medication. I absolutely agree with the sentiment here.

Yeah, that cutting off of supplies doesn't seem legal.

The ending had me sobbing. I had lost friends to addiction and I hope anyone going through it can fight can overcome this 😢😢😢 I’ve attended way too many funerals 😔

A doctor here and I want to say that there is too much fear, taboo and unnecessary hate for opioids now. For chronic patients they are literally a life saver.

Never seen this show. Seen a few clips. That whole sequence was emotional. I lost the mother of my child to opioids, and so many other friends and family. The ending hit hard. It seems like that woman is usually the hard ass antagonist but is revealed here to have her own experience? Love it

Just what I hate when people who really need pain pills cannot get them because they take it out on the wrong group of people when it comes to tightening the laws.

The ending really got to me 🥺😢

My mom was on an opioid for a long time due to her chronic pain and disability, She was so afraid of becoming addicted to it that she kept such a tight and rigorous schedule , she kept to it. Now she has been forced off the meds due to her age and she is in constant pain. I get the fear and the dangers of Opioids I have seen first hand what it does but I don't want to see my mom in agony anymore.

Fully stopping the use of opioids to manage even temporary severe pain is so stupid. Just because some people become addicted doesn’t mean that people should suffer in pain

This is the best show I have seen in years!! I became disabled in the '90s after I broke my neck I left the doctor's office with a script of pain medicine. No refills as a retired nurse a rehab myself cuz I knew I could push myself more than any therapist could. About 2003 I suffered a severe back injury where the doctors actually had to straighten out my spine. For a year the best I could do was crawl to make it to the bathroom and I still tried to put on my medicine fix my hair. During this time I went to Vicodin finally I went to oxycodone then I want oxycodone 80 mg and when I started getting better I completely took myself off the oxycodone and the withdrawals were worse than you could ever imagine. But I was paying 1200 to $1,800 a month for pain medicine. I told my pain management doctor to go back to Vicodin and now since Congress changed the loss. It is now harder for me to get pain medication I'm talking two or three Vicodin in a day I live in bed 24/7 cuz I'm in so much pain but doctors don't want to give disabled senior citizens pain medications anymore. It would actually be easier and cheaper for me just to go on the street and buy fentanyl. The US has to look at the drug problem! The problem is the people abusing drugs not the disabled..

This episode seems to have done a solid job showing why the profit motive is fundamentally detrimental to proper health care. Corporations are not allowed to pursue the public good if it negatively affects their shareholders. Medical care will never improve substantially until it is unchained from the pursuit of private wealth.

I lost my cousin last year to opioids, she was in her early 20's. 😪 She deserved the world, but was taken so young. I myself fought through an addiction after a major back surgery, I lost so much, but thankfully had a wonderful friend that helped and supported me through it all. The drug companies are all too happy to hand out the drugs as long as those profits keep rolling in. It is not fair, and it is a terrible disease, by terrible people. If someone you know is going through this problem, the last thing they need is your judgement or hate, help them, we are all only human, and may just be one good person away from recovery, or just one bad person away from death.

We have had addiction for a very long time and some people no matter what you do will feed their addiction. As far as I’m concerned after 34 years as a registered nurse I accept that I can’t stop all this at the same time I recognize that there are people with chronic pain they simply cannot function without opioids!

Ryan eggold is such a brilliant actor. The black list should have never let him go but I love him in this show too 😅😂

that one post sent chills then all the posts on the board was amazingly sad

Like the Doc said it wasn't a problem in back in 96" but I think the companies putting cut on it to increase the profit and putting people at risk that actually need them.

I guess different places are different. I live in SC in the US. Literally there are no doctors here who prescribe opioid anymore. Even in serious surgeries like heart surgery, you have to beg your doctor for anything at all. So I think in alot of places the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction and it's not good.

I absolutely LOVE the passion that Max has!

My friend passed away from a drug OD. It has broken me because I am also a chronic pain patient and get treated like I am a drug seeker when I have multiple health problems

This show never fails to make me cry

As someone who has lost someone to opioids just recently I know how much this epidemic hurts and I hope that everyone who's lost someone to it helps fight this epidemic

This clip is SO telling. The fact that all those medical directors got up and walked out of the room at the end shows that they don't care about their patients as much as they do about profits.

Just so everyone knows: The IRL counterpart of the Nylers are the Sackler family. So you know who to be angry at.

This episode brought so many emotions to forefront boyfriend made me 1st and foremost want to say how sorry I am to those families who may be reading this comments section and are having to deal with addiction of any sort whether be obioids alcohol anything I sincerely apologize to you all and hope that you have the strength to hold on and that your family member or friend has the strength to overcome addiction

Opioids do work & they shouldn't be demonized BUT it is over prescribed which is the problem. Not everyone needs them & we should definitely explore alternative treatments, like cannabis for example.

No matter what, they were loved and those lives mattered.

This episode is huge. I have chronic pain from a car accident that almost killed me as a child. Too many people have chronic pain. Most people have never heard of suboxone. It is also impossible to get a doctor to prescribe suboxone long term for chronic pain. Which is so frustrating. I have serious pain every day and I don't want to take opioids because they are so bad for your body I know I was on them for years. Ugh.

doctors got my grandma hooked on opioids for like 15 years then refused to give her anything for pain when she was on her death bed because of her previous use lol

Had a friend who was an addict for over a decade. He doesn’t blame “The Nylers” for his addiction at all. He’s happy they pushed it so much so he never had to turn to actual dope. Pills have a much better quality control and it’s a lot harder to Od

Two weeks I was on opioids after my surgery, my grandma had to take it away. For about two weeks afterward I was more depressed than I ever felt in my life, I could not do anything. While I was taking it, I remember feeling good but not that it was that great, I was creeped out by the minor hallucinations I was having. But after two weeks I still wanted it. I lost my dad in spirit to opioids, he's still alive and not on them anymore but he isn't the same person. He struggles a lot.

Medical personel need to care enough to be sure of what medication they give and to whom.medicines work,but only when properly prescribed to people who actually need them.this is why doctors have to care to help,or people suffer if they don't.

Whats more important money or loved ones?

My father got a back surgery before I was born. He spiraled into addiction, becoming a different person before I ever got to know him. Got a DV charge because of his use and went to prison, lost everything. Before addiction he pioneered the tech industry, extremely smart, worked with large companies and celebrities. When he died his house was filled with pill bottles and signs he used inhalants. At the end he could barley walk without stumbling, and was nodding off during our once-a-week visitations. I regret not hugging him more and telling him how much i love him. Miss you dad :(

We’re in New York unfortunately they prescribed me that after my pain from my Surgry for the pain and while I hear of this all the time of the addiction and stuff I couldn’t see myself getting addicted and retaking that after the first time. Made me feel awful beyond awful

While not recent, my daughter is addicted to morphine, as a result of her open heart surgery when she was an infant. I was there when they took her off of it the first time… and the withdrawal nearly killed her. We had to ween her off of it for a month. Dealing with the withdrawal. And then continuing with a replacement for another 2. She was on pain meds for another year and a half, slowly weening her off. Have to be careful with any pain medication. There will be a time soon where she will have to deal with the addiction again, as she’ll be due for a replacement valve, but so far, we’ve managed. The use of them is so needed, but follow up to prevent outright abuse is lacking in so many instances. I pray for those that need them be able to not fall into abuse of them.

I had a catastrophic back injury in 2008. My doc prescribed opiods. Took me all of 4 days to become addicted and almost 2 weeks to detox. NEVER again.

"I want to see how much damage you can get up to." "Challenge accepted :) "

I honestly don’t get it, why give opioids so freely? In Portugal we only give opioids to terminal patients, everything else, including surgeries are treated with paracetamol and anti-inflammatory.

That was so deeply heart touching

This is why in Australia we never let pharmaceutical companies take our health care system over, we never let private companies take over public systems… because we are honest regardless of who is in power, for we chose to put the lives and freedom of our people over monetary gain.

Unlike some people, I don't have a condition with a cure. Ironically, it's also not fatal. I will likely live into my 80s if my family's genetics are any indication. I'm in pain every day, all day. Every. Day. My doctors can't prescribe opioids because the people who oversee them, who are likely NOT doctors, give them the hairy eyeball if they do. No exceptions based on the patient's condition. I can understand if you have an accident or surgery you're supposed to eventually wean off of the pain meds but that doesn't cover every situation.

As someone who was prescribed opiods for pain during treatment for cancer, I can tell you that they're a life saver for many; but for some, they can, and will kill you. My cousin died of a fentanyl overdose. The heroin he shot up was laced with it. He died seconds after shooting up in a McDonald's bathroom. He was schizophrenic, and was self medicating with heroin and alcohol.

Now let’s see this happen in real hospitals

Oh man, I haven't watched this episode for so long, and it still is a slap, a punch, and a sledgehammer to the face.

there is a time and place to provide opioids to patients and i think the bigger problem is the fact that some doctors hand them out like they are candy while others refuse to hand them out at all. i have a friend with chronic pain and without opioids she wouldn’t be able to function in college. doctors should have special courses geared towards how many opioids someone receives after surgery, have anyone on opioids have regular visits to ensure addiction doesn’t occur, and learn to recognize the signs of someone who is addicted. people in chronic pain shouldn’t have to suffer because some doctors and people misuse opioids.

Her character as Karen on New Amsterdam is so different than her prior role on Grey’s Anatomy as George’s mom!

I lost a lot of friends and family to opioid addiction.. this hits like a frait-train.

For all of you defending opioids for chronic pain, heres the other side of that coin: ive repeatedly been prescribed inordinatly excessive amounts of opioids for minor procedures and even demanding that the doctor keep doses to a minimum or not prescribe them at all. I could easily have become one of the photos on that wall if it werent for my own skepticism of doctors in general and self-control. Ive surrendered months worth of this stuff. Thats how people get addicted. All medicine, even opioids have legitimate use, but it needs to be CONTROLLED.

I’m a lake person because I have an RN as a husband and he never let’s us take more than what is extremely necessary

WOW, this clip had me in tears. I hate my empathetic side.

1:00 those are the most regrettable words in history

How many times were Sacklers and Purdue pharma mentioned in this episode?

I think we can all agree that oxy isn’t the villain, the pharmaceutical industry is.

they could give the patients shrooms. shrooms have been shown to treat or even cure addictions and the lady did say to break any law he needs to

I wish they had Adele on more and a proper send off for her. She was such a good character.

The doctors did the right thing! Like it or not we’re dealing with people who are chronically ill and chronically in pain and even cases that are very cute we can’t fix everything and we do use opioids and it’s a dam good thing we have them.

Opioids are needed, but the point of this episode was to show that even hospitals are at the mercy of big pharma if they step out of line. I mean most of us here in the states would rather die than call an ambulance as an example cause making money is more important than healthcare.

I think a portion of the money pharamceutical companies make should be donated to drug treatment programs!!!

Yeah, I would react the same way 😂 0:53

I am crying it reminded me of my grandma dee

❤❤❤❤ amo essa série.

A few years ago my city was called the drug overdose capital of the US. People I’ve known my whole life died. My mother was having a heart attack and went to the er. They thought she was drug seeking and let her suffer in pain. She had 99% blockage. She never took drugs in her life.

Amo essa série ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

As someone who lives with daily pain, and has loved ones with chronic lifelong pain. Thank you so much for making every day harder because the pain killers that work are now outlawed.

you fix the problem, start enforcing federal laws on major if not all pharmaceutical companies,

Tbf they later tackled badly restricting opioids to much for chronicly ill

My favorite line of the day wonderful do u want a cookie 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Não perco essa série muito boa .

I also work in the medical field and you can't just go with no opioid whatsoever, it's absurd and saved many lives. You can do a lot to help end the crisis but just ending the use in a hospital completely is stupid.

The best thing to do with big business is to stand up to them and let them know you will not be pushed around. Falter in that, and they will one hundred percent push you around the second you threaten profits, no matter your reason for doing so. Not against people using opioids for their pain, I am against companies like this profiting off essential medications and putting profits over patients.

Omg I'm sorry but I have good hearing and this episode drove me crazy that none stop buzzing is painful

That company has no damn right to put money over patient care. All for profit at the expense of peoples lives.

sobbing

I remember her as George's mother on Grey's Anatomy also

Some ppl do need opioids they really hurt! But Suboxone is frowned upon! But it has saved millions of ppl!!

I rather be in chronic pain than take opioids

When I saw the child’s letter I lost it😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

9:27 Bro why am I crying I the club rn?

Live in Europe. Here in my country opioids are hard to get. Mind you not imposible but hard to get. Mostly for end stage disease paitients in so much agony nothing else would take. My aunt was on fentanil when she passed away but God did her cancer get to her at the end. No one should suffer that kind of pain if we can manadge it.

Before you start selling drugs, you need to create a demand. There is a demand for opioids - WHY? And why is there no demand for the drugs you are selling - why?

I don't understand why we can't keep them from being sold in the country illegally. Is there no other type of medication available that deals with pain effectively.

I know that this is just a TV show but imagine if all the doctors and nurses and everyone else in the NHS tore their contracts up and put them on the Health security's door. They might finally be listened to!

Not everyone abuses their pain medication. Drug addicts mixes their medication with street drugs,& alcohol. They always want a high. Pain patient only want pain control do they can participate in family life or be able to go to work.

Gostaria de ver todos os dias .

Some people can't have other choices of pain medication as well as antibiotics. Reason they have sulfur. Some peopke can't have Nsaids because nsaids can cause bleeding, a hole or ulcers in the lower intestines or their pouches Roux En Y gastric bypass. The only choice or option is an opiad.

So like, what is the cause of opioid addiction? I took hydrocodone after a surgery and didn't have issues. I'm not trying to be rude or insulting, I'm genuinely not sure.

on 0:05 YES THERE IS CAMERA

Lol the title is cute..... Doctors are the ones who started the opiod crisis.....and greatly benefit from it financially

Maravilha

opioids affects everyone

y’all are largely missing the point. everyone understands chronic pain can be helped with opioids. the problem is shoving them down people throats without telling them the consequences or there being better solutions. it’s like people only think of their isolated cases instead of thinking of the whole.

this is what you call group speak others do what they say others do.

It’s not the opioids that are the problem it’s a symptom of a deeper problem at hand. People use because of abuse/emotional issues/ traumas they have in they’re lives and the only way they feel they can cope is using a drug that makes them not feel pain.

So, you call the Devil, ask him for his next move and now you scream?

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