Why The Try Guys Scandal Hijacked The Internet

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Dodford

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Жыл бұрын

The Try Guys' Ned Fulmer cheated on his wife and the scandal totally hijacked the internet. The question is: why?
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@nadirank
@nadirank Жыл бұрын
"It's human nature to want to kind of see a car crash and Ned Fulmer had been going 90 on the opposite side of the road after 10 years as a driving instructor." WHAT A LINE
@LilyShimizu
@LilyShimizu Жыл бұрын
Eyyo I’m your 1,000th like 😂🎉
@yeethittter1285
@yeethittter1285 Жыл бұрын
What a raw ass take. Poetic even
@Sakkaz
@Sakkaz Жыл бұрын
@@yeethittter1285 too beautiful
@bookcatlife7550
@bookcatlife7550 Жыл бұрын
No, he said that line and I was just blown away at the accuracy
@SaiKrishna-kx4ws
@SaiKrishna-kx4ws Жыл бұрын
I’m subscribing to this channel just for that one line!
@PukingPanda
@PukingPanda Жыл бұрын
It’s so funny that this guy is so bland that his main identifying personality trait is doing the bare minimum a.k.a. loving your partner
@AmaraJordanMusic
@AmaraJordanMusic Жыл бұрын
It is sad that actually loving your partner is like… memorable in any way. I adore my husband and brag on him all the time. I can’t imagine a world where I betray him in any way, much less sexually. Adults should talk about their differences, not sneak around!
@WEFAbender6
@WEFAbender6 Жыл бұрын
Its sad cuz he could’ve brought his knowledge on chemistry or love of sports into the mix somehow and made that his personality while still mentioning his wife. Sigh
@7kraska
@7kraska Жыл бұрын
Most men aren't like that (so open and articulate about their love) so that's why many of us admired him for his supposed love for his wife. Sadly it wasn't real.
@potato-whiz
@potato-whiz Жыл бұрын
Oh my god yes
@yamomma8560
@yamomma8560 Жыл бұрын
omg i never thought about it this😭
@JennaGetsCreative
@JennaGetsCreative Жыл бұрын
Ned's apology came AFTER the Try Guys made their public statement, and he made sure to pick the same font and keep it black & white so it looked like they had been planned together. The remaining guys are salty about it.
@nicoleskorupsky1007
@nicoleskorupsky1007 Жыл бұрын
Most likely his lawyer put out that statement.
@ErnPrivado
@ErnPrivado Жыл бұрын
They salty since they all have equal royalty. So yeah he still gain something with the company without working with it
@Fmradio803
@Fmradio803 Жыл бұрын
They were! They addresses it in the pod and Keith especially. He said that he was unhappy with Ned doing that bc it made it looks like they made a joint statement, which they didn’t and they were not on board with what he said. He was more upset than that but I don’t remember word for word.
@PhotoJeticPoet
@PhotoJeticPoet Жыл бұрын
​@ErnPrivado then they shouldn't have fired him over personal issues 😂 can't have money and be morally intertwined. Other networks would've done their best to get ahead of things before it blew up.
@codymarshall587
@codymarshall587 Жыл бұрын
@@PhotoJeticPoet this is such a pathetic take. They did not fire him over personal things. They fired him because he was fucking an employee. That has the potential to capsize a company in a legal sense and a brand in a public view sense. You are brain dead if you consider this to be a personal matter.
@kali_uchis7635
@kali_uchis7635 Жыл бұрын
SNL was so wrong for that skit I hope they saw all the negative feedback and have changed
@aznmochibunny
@aznmochibunny Жыл бұрын
A lot of people believe that skit was done on purpose as Ned had mentioned that he had a university friend who is a writer on SNL. Lo and behold, the friend's name is credited as a scriptwriter.
@yukikanegawa7470
@yukikanegawa7470 Жыл бұрын
​@@aznmochibunny The friends wasn't mentioned in the drama until after so I don't think it was intentional. Also the situation with ned was huge online but it didn't get big outside until the snl situation. No one was expecting it to get that big. It's unreasonable to expect a random passing comment about someone he's friends with made on their podcast once would get so much attention. It's literally a 3 sec clip and the podcast wasn't about snl and it was made years ago wasn't it?
@jax422
@jax422 Жыл бұрын
@@yukikanegawa7470 The SNL friend was friends with both Ned and Alex and was mentioned by Alex in the Try Guys podcast before the drama.
@yukiandkanamekuran
@yukiandkanamekuran Жыл бұрын
honestly SNL really just isnt that funny, some things are, but in a corny way, but some things are garbo.
@candylide
@candylide Жыл бұрын
Fr I can't believe they thought it was a good idea
@kevannpankhurst
@kevannpankhurst Жыл бұрын
All of this broke the day I found out I was going to lose my job. Ngl, it helped to be like “alright I have to find a new job. But at least THAT’S not happening to me. “
@hityawiththepunktactics
@hityawiththepunktactics Жыл бұрын
To be fair, he also had to find a new job. But I think his search is going to be a lot harder than yours was lmao, I hope you found work you like!
@Kiki-wm5or
@Kiki-wm5or Жыл бұрын
@@hityawiththepunktactics that’s why they’re grateful that’s the joke
@dika_hilman
@dika_hilman Жыл бұрын
That's a good mindset
@bewwybabe8045
@bewwybabe8045 Жыл бұрын
@@hityawiththepunktactics unfortunately, he’s back to working at Buzzfeed behind the scenes. It’s really disappointing.
@narniadici1976
@narniadici1976 Жыл бұрын
That's hilarious, best of luck to you!
@squeaky748
@squeaky748 Жыл бұрын
Ok but the newspaper articles victimizing Ned when he literally CHEATED ON HIS WIFE are insane to me. Like they said that keith zack and eugene were the bad guys when they literally did nothing wrong. How the hell did they get away with publishing those articles?
@bebop2523
@bebop2523 Жыл бұрын
Ned is from a very wealthy, well-connected family and he went to Yale so he has access to this Ivy League professional network as well, he and his parents have a lot of powerful friends in media and journalism
@pinkcupcake4717
@pinkcupcake4717 Жыл бұрын
He cheated on his wife with his *employee*, which is not just immoral but illegal. The guys did the legally and morally correct thing by getting rid of Ned.
@mordecaiissad8529
@mordecaiissad8529 Жыл бұрын
​@@pinkcupcake4717 this. I think this wouldn't have been nearly as much of an issue and that they would probably try to figure out how to fix it instead of kicking him if the woman he cheated with was a subordinate at the company. I also find it hard to believe that none of the other guys knew. Especially when the internet spit out so many pics of the two of them and the people that worked with Ned saying they aren't surprised with how he was behind the camera. The company wasn't that huge and disconnected nas even with bigger companies word gets around.
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r Жыл бұрын
​@@mordecaiissad8529Maybe, but people love to be in denial when it comes to their friends
@jonteet
@jonteet Жыл бұрын
@@pinkcupcake4717 the fuck no? its not illegal to have relations with an employee. don't make shit up.
@priyankanair7969
@priyankanair7969 Жыл бұрын
They were the 'good guys' of the internet. It was nuts to hear something like that
@nschannel826
@nschannel826 Жыл бұрын
At one point I appreciated that they're the one non-independent creator that I enjoy watching without thinking about drama. God fucking dammit, Ned.
@deathismycolor
@deathismycolor Жыл бұрын
Keep thinking that, you’ll definitely go somewhere with that kind of knowledge…
@Diortelon
@Diortelon Жыл бұрын
That would be Rhett and Link for me, but I get what you're saying
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 Жыл бұрын
pathetic "good guys" meaning guys who woke women like? like your gay best-friend, but not gay?
@ihaveakirbyobessesion2617
@ihaveakirbyobessesion2617 Жыл бұрын
Define "of the internet", only teenage yt gals cared ijbol
@RedDragonsRme
@RedDragonsRme Жыл бұрын
I think that mainstream media really doesn't understand anything with the internet
@carmiebbt
@carmiebbt Жыл бұрын
i always feel like im on boomer territory when im there
@pandagal9805
@pandagal9805 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the mainstream media should stay out of the internet’s business
@aaaduccs6667
@aaaduccs6667 Жыл бұрын
@@pandagal9805 fr
@maddieb.4282
@maddieb.4282 Жыл бұрын
@@pandagal9805the MSM needs to hold the internet accountable and vice versa
@lisa_vxng
@lisa_vxng Жыл бұрын
that and in that industry things like inappropriate affairs (and potential harrassement) are sadly also still looked at as 'normal' in a lot of places
@mileyuli
@mileyuli Жыл бұрын
"Men holding each other accountable is still not a common practice". THIS!!!!! It's exactly this!
@foxyloxyBABE
@foxyloxyBABE Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I was so glad to hear this!!
@ne0nmancer
@ne0nmancer Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's a norm for both sexes. Our society excused men for a lot shit they did while demonizing women, but instead of holding both sexes to the same standard going forward, we just gave up and threw the standard out of the window. We should bring back some shaming in society, people won't be held accountable otherwise.
@Stefanius058
@Stefanius058 Жыл бұрын
@@ne0nmancer that would only lead to people getting shamed over the lies or small unimportant things. Its just like asking for Witch hunts to be a thing again along with public execution of witches. If you think people can shame others on a responsible level, than you have not been around humanity.
@IkesPimpHand
@IkesPimpHand Жыл бұрын
When have females EVER been held accountable for anything by ANYONE? THIS!THAT! THERE! Men hold each other accountable ALL THE TIME. women are not a priority.
@manuelsilva6244
@manuelsilva6244 Жыл бұрын
And women do? Cmon girl. Also they didn't hold him accountable, they did what they thought would get them more money. The dude didn't commit any crime. Cheating is not a good thing but its also not a crime. They have zero right to hold him accountable lol.
@user-qd5gq9ec8k
@user-qd5gq9ec8k Жыл бұрын
It’s so sad how SNL’s immediate response to cheating was to undermine it, and say it wasn’t a big deal
@criptastical
@criptastical Жыл бұрын
Bearing in mind that SNL has had quite a few instances of sexual harassment, I'd say that they don't care much about cheating either
@anarchsnark
@anarchsnark Жыл бұрын
'it was consensual!!!' Yeah I bet Ned's wife consented to her husband cheating /s
@FekDindad-xy9vz
@FekDindad-xy9vz Жыл бұрын
It wasn't. Except for a few emotionally over invested weirdos no one gives a stuff what some presenter does in their spare time.
@leafyveins4985
@leafyveins4985 Жыл бұрын
​@@FekDindad-xy9vz and yet, here you are. Commenting on a video about it.
@FekDindad-xy9vz
@FekDindad-xy9vz Жыл бұрын
@@leafyveins4985 yeah because weirdos overreacting is legitimate entertainment.
@iridescenties
@iridescenties Жыл бұрын
I don't get "cheating". If you feel like you no longer in love/both are at the same place/fallen for another person, have a talk, separate or divorce and then proceed with new relationship. This is how mature people deal with it. Ned turned out to be irresponsible and hurt lots of people. I'm very sorry for Ariel and their children.
@bonni2920
@bonni2920 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes people don't even cheat because they want someone else, but because they're unhappy with some part of their life/relationship and satisfying your emotional/sexual needs with a "no strings attached" side deal can be easier for some than assessing their own feelings and communicating their needs to their partner. Truly sad and pathetic to make a loved one bear the brunt of one's own issues like that. Ariel is a queen and I hope she's doing okay now that the media has thankfully left her alone.
@kaddy2
@kaddy2 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@bonni2920p. My ex cheated, multiple times by the time I found out. Now I had already told him I thought he was experiencing depression. He had been made redundant and lost his car as a result, it was a rough point and he changed, slept most of the day and gamed all night, stopped showering etc. He came at me with I wasn't having sex with him enough. Okay if that's what he thought. I did have my own issues and a teething 8mth old and post natal depression myself, but was seeking help and trying my best myself. He refused to even consider the idea that anyone but me needed any kind of help BUT he wanted me to stop as he believed the anxiety meds made my libido drop. Not his lack of hygiene and inconsistent behaviour around the household. He also became abusive due to his depression. Years later he's admitted that he was depressed and really just feeling absolutely shit about the work and car. That I was 100% right and also justified in my own disinterest in sex, that later on reflection me screaming at him in one fight: if you showered for me like you did for prostitutes I'd fuck you... Was completely justified and should have been at that point a wake up, not taken as an insult and another way to say I'm unreasonable, because who wants to have sex with someone who's not showered or brushed their teeth in 4 days. If he had sought help, if he had just even gone to a dr or something to appease me, he agrees he might have done better. Might not have hit me. Might have kept his shit together and not essentially ruined his life by fucking up so badly and having his family also force consequences, not just the law and our relationship end. He's had issues trying to have relationships because everyone knows how bad he got/it ends up coming out and the fact he physically abused me has ended a lot of relationships and also lifelong friendships.
@junjiscomb7909
@junjiscomb7909 Жыл бұрын
it;s cuz they are selfish and possessive. it's their ego that is making them do that.
@rainbowkittycat627
@rainbowkittycat627 Жыл бұрын
As a polyamorous and autistic person, I second this. I just don’t understand not having open and honest conversations with your partner, full stop.
@YourWaywardDestiny
@YourWaywardDestiny Жыл бұрын
From what I've heard, it's rarely about wanting someone else. It's usually about control in some form. Control over their partner if they're mad at them, control over themselves if they feel helpless, control over emotions if something big happened, control over finances if they feel like they're not getting enough... It usually comes back to grasping for something to feel like they have control over anything. I can't say what Ned was thinking during this, I just have what I've heard.
@kyokonightstorm5844
@kyokonightstorm5844 Жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that Ned's comment about what happened came out after the company's. On the first podcast episode after the scandal broke, Keith and Zach even mentioned that Ned used the same/a similar font as their post, and implied that he did it intentionally.
@reneebush2399
@reneebush2399 Жыл бұрын
It definitely felt like he was trying to give the impression like they put them out jointly or something like that. Not sure if the try guys felt that it came off that way, but that is the vibe Ned using those same font gives you. I wonder if that’s why he went with the basic white background as well?
@Struudeli
@Struudeli Жыл бұрын
​@@reneebush2399That's what Keith and Zach assumed it was in the podcast. They say it carefully but clearly enough.
@nicoleskorupsky1007
@nicoleskorupsky1007 Жыл бұрын
@@reneebush2399 Most likely it was his lawyer that put it out and not him.
@cheapskateaquatics7103
@cheapskateaquatics7103 6 ай бұрын
I absolutely love that
@elliot5797
@elliot5797 4 күн бұрын
​@nicoleskorupsky1007 but its still In Ned's name, which means any fall out from that post goes back to Ned
@usedtobemyself
@usedtobemyself Жыл бұрын
SNL was so embarrassing for that
@spinno3238
@spinno3238 Жыл бұрын
it was SUCH a low blow especially considering that they’ve had some sexual harassment/assault allegations too.
@mikeoochie7699
@mikeoochie7699 Жыл бұрын
Ned wrote the script 100%
@benkenobisgirl
@benkenobisgirl Жыл бұрын
I was completely surprised they decided to go that way. Totally dismissive and actually factually wrong. Then Becky (Keith's wife) posted "Isn't one of Ned's friends a writer at SNL?" and it turned out that friend wrote the script. Made Ned look even worse.
@alirodina
@alirodina Жыл бұрын
@@benkenobisgirl omg really? 👀 That's so pathetic... (eta: saw part of the vid where it was brought up.. Definitely pathetic 😂)
@janelbbuck
@janelbbuck Жыл бұрын
SNL made themselves look so suspicious with that skit.
@Atuchy
@Atuchy Жыл бұрын
I will say you're the first person I've seen to point out that their first video independent from buzzfeed was about Ned's baby shower. I will just say one correction which is that Ned's apology was released AFTER the Try Guys released their statement that he was no longer with them.
@beatm6948
@beatm6948 Жыл бұрын
Yes! And I know this because on their podcast where they talk about the situation, Keith mentions how he thinks Ned choosing the same font was a passive aggressive attack.
@Voldycat
@Voldycat Жыл бұрын
exactly right and this is important because ned copied the style of the try guys post which made it look like they had co-ordinated it when in fact they didn't
@jax422
@jax422 Жыл бұрын
They were released at about the same time, within an hour of each other. The guys had sent Ned a copy of what they were going to release before they released it, so he wouldn’t be blindsided. That’s when he copied it, not after they posted it.
@laynie7720
@laynie7720 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's a situation where the accused is "only sorry because they got caught".
@faeri_
@faeri_ Жыл бұрын
@@Voldycat THAT is exactly what I saw. Yes, the others knew. At least a month before news broke. But the way Ned wrote his statement made it seem like they had known for way longer than that. He could’ve saved things a little bit more if he’d written his note. It’s not like the words meant any different. But the same format was a psychological game on a lot of people. They’re automatically gonna peep the similarity and start thinking deeper. But no, instead of even trying to be sincere, Ned copped out multiple times.
@sqglitch3973
@sqglitch3973 Жыл бұрын
They are important because they connected emotionally with their audience, which is why this became such a huge thing, we became invested in their lives, seeing this felt like a betrayal
@itsgonnabeanaurfromme
@itsgonnabeanaurfromme Жыл бұрын
That's the problem with parasocial relationships
@sammysoppy3361
@sammysoppy3361 Жыл бұрын
maybe you should get real friends then? cause that’s weird
@tyronesebastian9151
@tyronesebastian9151 Жыл бұрын
@@sammysoppy3361 parasocial relationships exist in all and any forms though. people have favorite movies, singers, dancers, shows, games, musicals, books, etc. and they have favorite characters, actors/actresses, and etc. finding out that one of those people did something horrible and feeling sad or down or betrayed is a normal feeling. that’s why we feel sad when our favorite actor/etc dies or gets sick or something. those relationships are a part of life. yes they can be toxic as can any other relationship. but people are allowed to have feelings and thoughts. that’s a part of the human experience. growing attachment to a famous person happens and we all have one, whether we want to admit it or not. we are all fans of someone.
@VixxKong2
@VixxKong2 Жыл бұрын
I think most people who made videos about the scandal were not even part of their audience
@mexiguero646
@mexiguero646 Жыл бұрын
You can enjoy their content without feeling apart if their personal lives. Dwelling in para social relationships is not a healthy thing to do.
@buibuiopolismayor7329
@buibuiopolismayor7329 Жыл бұрын
As a kid who grew up with a cheating father that dragged on for many years, news about seemingly wife loving husbands cheating on their spouse breaks my heart. It’s a traumatic experience for the kid and wife, luckily his kids are still young, hopefully they won’t remember much of the ordeal. But as a 8 year old kid, going through that with my parents broke my world. My family fell apart and there was nothing I could do. And no matter what people say about “i’ll always love you even if we divorce”, yeah, but my family is no longer the same anymore, it’s different, and I never got to see my dad much anymore because he has his own family with the women he cheated on my mom with. He’s a responsible dad and was very financially supportive, but it’s not the same. You just can’t really fit in to his family when the women he married was the person who brought so much pain to your family.
@nschannel826
@nschannel826 Жыл бұрын
Heck, I loved Ned _because_ I came from that kind of home environment myself, it was nice to see that loving husbands and parents do exist, but then THAT happened
@ryuugaeisen8946
@ryuugaeisen8946 Жыл бұрын
@@nschannel826 same. It made me felt hope and wonder what that family environment would feel like...
@unabashedlyluckynerd7148
@unabashedlyluckynerd7148 Жыл бұрын
Nah I get it too, it's TRUAMATIC for the kids too. People think " well it isn't your business" BULLSHIT it is. I caught my mom in the act and that is stuck with me forever. I'm sorry you also went through this. I hope you're healing properly in a healthy manner
@HannaBenana
@HannaBenana Жыл бұрын
Agreed. My dad always seemed so head over heels, borderline obsessed even, with my mother. They did everything together it seemed when I was young. I felt somewhat lucky as a kid that my parents loved each other so much. I found out about his infidelity as a young adult and it forever shattered my image of my family and father.
@zacharyriley4561
@zacharyriley4561 Жыл бұрын
Had a friend who's dad cheated on his wife and when she found out he beat her to death in front of his mistress and tried to make his son, AKA my friend, take the blame. Apparently he said his wife "had it coming" for gaining 40 pounds due to his abuse making her addicted to junk food. He was killed in jail.
@xlottyx2979
@xlottyx2979 Жыл бұрын
man. I grew up watching the try guys. I loved them so much that's why seeing it first on twitter when Ned cheated was a huge blow on me to the point that I didn't believe it at first. Coz cmon, Ned the "i love my wife" guy seriously cheated?? No way. But then it really did happen and it blew up so much on social media. Despite all, i still love the remaining 3 and my support will always be towards them.
@veryupstandinguy
@veryupstandinguy Жыл бұрын
same :/
@WhitneyDahlin
@WhitneyDahlin Жыл бұрын
‼️I always thought it was weird that he made such a big deal about being married he wasn't the only one of the TryGuys who was married. I thought all of the guys were married, but Ned was the only one who turned it into a personality. And that always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I am married. My husband and I are best friends we really do love each other we've been together for like 10 years and even though I deeply love my husband I have a life outside of my husband and my husband has a life and interests outside of me. So it always felt like Ned was overcompensating. That could just be me looking back with hindsight. At the time I thought it was because he just didn't have anything else. Some people don't have any interests or hobbies. So i thought he had just latched on to being married as his personality because he felt like he didn't have anything else that made him stand out from the other guys. And maybe that is true. Maybe that's why he made such a big deal about being married and loving his wife and family when he obviously didn't actually love his wife and family that much.
@Cheesefries669
@Cheesefries669 Жыл бұрын
Watching them through high school really helped me feel comfortable in my own skin and I just can’t stop loving them 🤷‍♀️ Ned really was my fave cuz of his love and how much I wanted someone like that 😅 but like the whole driving instructor being curious about a car crash….he could’ve seen if Ariel was down to swing or something and then divorce before pursuing whatever her name was, I’m sorry I’m too lazy to look for her name 😭
@erikleith4670
@erikleith4670 Жыл бұрын
😂 corny
@MutiaraJohanSapri
@MutiaraJohanSapri Жыл бұрын
😊
@droid2D2C3P0
@droid2D2C3P0 Жыл бұрын
I think the most shocking part of this scandal is that the other guys held him accountable and fired him. Very rarely do men get held accountable for these actions, especially by other men and even more so by the men in their own circle. Huge respect for the other 3 guys.
@droid2D2C3P0
@droid2D2C3P0 Жыл бұрын
@@user-mAfuNqrSe020x played a part sure, but doubt it played a large part and it was very clearly not the driving force. It was their ethics and morals. I would bet money they would have taken the same route even if they hadn't known Ariel personally.
@cheapskateaquatics7103
@cheapskateaquatics7103 6 ай бұрын
Dudes hold each other accountable for stuff more often than you think.
@droid2D2C3P0
@droid2D2C3P0 6 ай бұрын
@@cheapskateaquatics7103 no they don't.
@0101qqq
@0101qqq 10 күн бұрын
@@cheapskateaquatics7103 keep believing that lie 😂 lmao
@JWisdom
@JWisdom Жыл бұрын
The storytelling and editing is always on point 👏🏼
@DodfordYT
@DodfordYT Жыл бұрын
thank you dude 🙏🏻
@wthIsTimeEven
@wthIsTimeEven Жыл бұрын
the actual SNL skit feels like a fever dream. like what was that even.
@foxyloxyBABE
@foxyloxyBABE Жыл бұрын
It was so badly done… poor writing, poor choice in words, acting was bad, cast choice was bad… 😂😂 seriously if they wanted to normalise cheating and sexual harassment they should have tried harder 🤷‍♀️ they shouldnt even have done it in the first place
@cheapskateaquatics7103
@cheapskateaquatics7103 6 ай бұрын
Have none of you ever watched SNL before this point?
@Jim-Stick
@Jim-Stick Жыл бұрын
There is no way I could ever cheat on my wife. She is, as corny as it sounds, my sunshine. We have been been just only 4 years. Her and I have a healthy poke and prod together. I do small things to make her day as much as I can.
@Bunnster3
@Bunnster3 Жыл бұрын
That’s adorable
@johnnboo
@johnnboo Жыл бұрын
King vibes, i have the same kinda situation here :)
@blingsing5383
@blingsing5383 Жыл бұрын
I may not know you but man I like you❤❤❤
@maryjaneramos2466
@maryjaneramos2466 Жыл бұрын
My hubby feels the same too .. there are still decent men out here 😌😢
@Sai-ns9ky
@Sai-ns9ky Жыл бұрын
You know, ned used to say the exact same thing...
@Moon-Vixen
@Moon-Vixen Жыл бұрын
what got me that you missed was that ned wasn't just "the wife guy who had an affair", but that he was A) a founder of the company, B) head of HR, and C) the one who wrote all the employee paychecks, who had an affair with a subordinate. it's clear that she was just as much a willing partner in this crime, but even if she hadn't been, and he'd hit on her, where was she to go? he's HR. he is the only one who oversees her payment. and there's no one more powerful than the company founder/s. granted, we know the other 3 would have stepped in to protect her, but if he'd been careful and made sure she never had proof, would they have believed her? no one knew until they got sloppy and stopped trying to hide it. the proof came from outside the company, from people who saw them out, and even then it only mattered bc it was a kiss, a violation she couldn't have done even with the sole intent of exposing him, without hurting Ariel. even if she'd been forced and coerced, all she could have done was leave the company and we have no idea what he'd have done to retaliate, and even if he didn't, he'd have just tried again with whoever took her place. that, to me, is what made this so wild. every single possible way to look at it is absolutely fucked, and it all happened on the public stage. absolutely wild.
@nicoleskorupsky1007
@nicoleskorupsky1007 Жыл бұрын
Even if it was non-consensual whether it be him coercing her or her coercing him the only person who would have a say in the matter is Ned because of his status. Also I have a feeling that it’s not just Ned who works HR, it’s definitely the 4 of them working together considering they own the company and putting just one thing onto one person would be not only too stressful but doing things like this would make it foolproof and he could easily continue abusing his power. As far as I know Keith knew that Ned used to be the frat-boy type so that history isn’t new to the guys. If they knew this they definitely would protect anyone who were to come forward with any information that would go against him. Its also not fair to blame him solely if it was consensual like he says it was because it takes 2 to make that decision, I’m not saying this is a possibility but considering he handled the finances and if she knew that she could’ve done it for a higher paycheck if she was that desperate but again it would take both of them to make that decision. Like you said regardless how you look at it it’s a really fucked up situation I’m just upset that YB and the other guys got caught in the crossfire and were left to deal with the mess and I feel really bad for Ariel and the kids who will probably grow up without a father figure in the household. For someone who talked about his wife so much and loving her so much he clearly didn’t do such a good job of it.
@mrkillman555
@mrkillman555 Жыл бұрын
You cant assume a man will coerce someone into having a relationship with them just because you dont like the guy. Also in the world these guys live in theres no way the employee wouldnt have been believed if she said there was coercion
@Moon-Vixen
@Moon-Vixen Жыл бұрын
@@mrkillman555 do you normally comment on things you haven't bothered to actually read, or is your reading comprehension just that poor? just curious.
@mrkillman555
@mrkillman555 Жыл бұрын
@@Moon-Vixen What have I misunderstood about your comment?
@Moon-Vixen
@Moon-Vixen Жыл бұрын
@@mrkillman555 the entirety of my comment is that every possible scenario is fucked, no matter what direction you look at it. I didn't "assume he coerced her because I dislike him", coercion is just one of the many fucked up possibilities. it's also very clear from her own actions as well as those of her ex fiancé that it explicitly wasn't coercion, that she was just as much a willing participant and I said as much originally. I don't believe he coerced her, even if his position gives an inherent power imbalance. but *both* roads lead to terrible ends. as well, no, she could not have known they'd have her back if she had been coerced and needed help. the fact that this even happened and surprised people showed we didn't *really* know any of them like many thought they did, we only knew what they wanted us to see. if one is willing to do something like this, who's to say his closest friends aren't ALSO like that? or that they'd side with a woman they've known only a few years over a man they've been best friends with since their school days? men are known to close ranks and support even men they've never met before, having a close bond with one only makes it more likely that they'd take his side. as shocked as everyone was by ned's actions, everyone was just as shocked by the rest of them actually ousting their friend and standing by Ariel, because of just how unusual that is in ANY workplace. it's fantastic that they did, even more so because they now lead by example and can be pointed to as the golden standard for workplace sexual misconduct, but hindsight is 20/20. no one truly knows how a man will react until it's too late. the "bad" ones look exactly like the "good" ones, and when you're risking your safety, it's not a guess you can make lightly. every woman knows relying on "the men will have my back" is like expecting a prince in shining armor to take us away from all our problems. it's just not a reasonable bet to make. hence: every single path she reasonably had is fucked.
@semoremo9548
@semoremo9548 Жыл бұрын
It probably wouldn't have been as huge as it was if it had been any other dude. But his ENTIRE persona he portrayed to the world was being a good husband and father. He didn't really have many other... redeeming? qualities to his internet persona that could've maybe softened the blow to his image, because you can expect (to some degree) that any other person could end up in such a situation, but not the dude whose entire shtick was being a good husband. It was crazy. He obliterated his entire image just like that.
@babu357
@babu357 Жыл бұрын
Dick move but people make mistakes.
@bebop2523
@bebop2523 Жыл бұрын
@@babu357 fucking your employee isn’t just a “mistake“ tho it is a massive liability for the whole company, most companies have policies against this, and it is pretty standard that this is a fireable offense.
@aceofpentacles2k
@aceofpentacles2k Жыл бұрын
​@@bebop2523 yeah it's also a whole ass power dynamic like sure it was consensual but also at the same time Ned har the power to fire her if she had said no
@bebop2523
@bebop2523 Жыл бұрын
@@aceofpentacles2k not just that but it would cause all types of other issues, like was he using business money to pay for their dates and claiming they were business expenses work meetings, was he giving her preferential treatment that other employees didn’t get, etc.
@biancastepney1517
@biancastepney1517 Жыл бұрын
@@babu357 Cheating isn't a mistake, it's a very purposeful and deliberate choice
@CeceJianni
@CeceJianni Жыл бұрын
The guy didn't just cheat, he had a whole extramarital relationship for like a year with a woman who worked for him.
@themoon7435
@themoon7435 Жыл бұрын
And that woman was engaged to another man at the time I think I remember reading. How sad that so many people got hurt.
@TheHarmonygrace
@TheHarmonygrace 6 күн бұрын
Apparently he had been doing it for longer than a year too and the fiancee had talked to him about it and told him to stop or something. IIRC there had at least been a suspicion
@carolina2734
@carolina2734 Жыл бұрын
Ned was the wife guy because he didn’t have any other interesting traits. His ‘love’ for his wife and family was his only relatable and likable character trait. I always thought it was weird and made it kind of obvious that Ned wasn’t enough on his own to hold viewers interest. He’s selfish point blank, didn’t care about his family didn’t care about the other guys or the staff. Not sad he’s no longer apart of try guys.
@alexandramcginnis8872
@alexandramcginnis8872 Жыл бұрын
What funny, is that he does have traits he could of easily brought in. He’s knowledgable. And could of easily play into his science background as part of his story. Play the “smart guy”…. But he choose not. He choose to only focus on “mah wife”. Which was alright when he was the only married one. But he no longer the only one in a relationship. “Mah wife”, can work… BUT only if there are other things to compliment it. But he choose not to
@carolinajimenez998
@carolinajimenez998 Жыл бұрын
Hey girl we got the same name but agreed he’s selfish and chose an affair over his career and family.
@pysq8
@pysq8 5 ай бұрын
He's the only one of them i don't remember/recognize. A very forgettable dude... other than this.
@softwaifu
@softwaifu Жыл бұрын
"Ned was driving 90 mph on the wrong side of the highway after 10 years as a driving instructor" really encompasses why i was invested in this story, not as a watcher of Try Guy's but as someone who is old enough to have grown up with KZfaq.
@MeatChip
@MeatChip Жыл бұрын
so weird how ned had an incredibly pretty and nice woman he was with, and threw it all away for no reason
@yvaincallipso84
@yvaincallipso84 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people focus on the cheating thing and forget the fact that not only did he cheat on his wife (who was their close friend), but they where also incredibly hurt that their friend would open the company they built out of nothing at a huge personal risk to a lawsuit that could crumble everything they built. All just for a fling with an employee. Like putting aside his deplorable behaviour to his wife and kids this was worse than if he met with an unrelated stranger at a bar.
@lalailm
@lalailm Жыл бұрын
WOW This was seriously one of the best videos I have seen on this matter (which has already been dragging for weeks now) Informative, straight to to the point and extremely well edited and commented. Nice job!
@four_girls_in_search_of_awesom
@four_girls_in_search_of_awesom Жыл бұрын
I remember beginning the SNL skit like “oh it’s not so bad, it’s poking fun at how this internet drama blew up and maybe overshadows more important news…” and then it quickly became clear they just wanted to shit on some KZfaqrs. Fun.
@ayinesk5205
@ayinesk5205 Жыл бұрын
From what I've observed around me,the more the person expresses to OTHERS their love for their partners and kids, the higher are chances of them cheating and even being sexual predator 🤡
@bluedragonwitch
@bluedragonwitch Жыл бұрын
it’s a “protest too much” thing where they try to divert attention and also sometimes are trying to convince themselves. cheaters piss me off cus they’re always massive liars as a base character trait
@Luv2sing836
@Luv2sing836 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. I had this one college prof who was constantly gushing about his wife and kids and was also a self-described angry feminist. He later got fired for demanding sex from female students or else he’d fail them (all of the students were adults, but the majority of them were there on scholarships, so failing a class would seriously jeopardize their chances of graduating); the doting feminist husband persona was entirely an act to cover up both his cheating and his predatory behavior.
@ickicynicky4890
@ickicynicky4890 Жыл бұрын
@@Luv2sing836 Jesus Christ 😭
@liquid-sugar
@liquid-sugar Жыл бұрын
I've heard it's called "overcompensation" where the guilt of cheating is slowly eating them up that to make up for it they start treating their lovers more kindly, more loving.
@R2row_Official
@R2row_Official Жыл бұрын
There are so many content creators with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and views but arent very good at making something meaning full or really interesting but over time I know your channel will get the credit it deserves its just a matter of time
@HernanMtz
@HernanMtz Жыл бұрын
The storytelling here is something else🔥 had no interest for this scandal until I watched this. Dodford doesn’t miss
@DodfordYT
@DodfordYT Жыл бұрын
that's the plan! thank you Hernán
@tjjade7980
@tjjade7980 Жыл бұрын
I do feel like the snl skit was planned to make the other try guys look bad. Mainly because we know Ned is friends with 2 snl people. Ned might not have been involved but I feel like that writer friend did it on purpose
@moxmox8058
@moxmox8058 Жыл бұрын
100% but i do believe Ned was at least tangentially involved. Very embarrassing for all the SNLactors involved
@daerincakes
@daerincakes Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Ariel, she deserves so much better than a liar.
@coricognitions
@coricognitions Жыл бұрын
I think what you said about the Try Guys' videos being "wholesome safe spaces" is so important, because they managed to show that sometimes maintaining that is difficult, and requires removing people who go against those wishes.
@Juupitrr
@Juupitrr Жыл бұрын
This is an amazingly made video. Honestly a bit upsetting how underrated it is! Good job, this actually showed me how /deep/ this really was.
@crystalmeier6579
@crystalmeier6579 Жыл бұрын
This was the best way anyone has tried to share this with the internet community. You did well.
@aureliomiguel1777
@aureliomiguel1777 Жыл бұрын
i started watching the try guys right as they became their own company but slowly stopped over time; the scandal pulled me right back in, both to see what the hell was going on and what they would do moving forward. this was such a good watch, the editing and the scriptwriting were absolutely stellar!
@emilaubry6856
@emilaubry6856 7 ай бұрын
Imagine men who are standing up for fidelity in marriage and accountability and being made fun of for it... This is what's wrong with our society
@daisyterry9337
@daisyterry9337 Жыл бұрын
I think the try guys actually released their statement first, on the podcast they were a little mad that Ned used the same font and made it look similar to theirs, like they planed it together
@danielbalderas9796
@danielbalderas9796 Жыл бұрын
I also think one thing that made it so huge it's that right about the same time on the same algorithms you would see try guys content, you also would see tiktoks and videos about how men who call themselves as "Nice guys" could also be horrible people who are only nice because they are expecting things in return. Ned built his entire career as a "Nice guy", nothing more than the "perfect husband", and when it all came down it completely destroy his entire credibility and persona that he has put in the internet since day 1.
@R.444-
@R.444- Жыл бұрын
I think the proximity to the John Mulaney divorce and Adam Levine cheating scandal amplified it as well because it became something beyond Ned as an individual: people were critiquing the image of the “wife guy” as a whole and the algorithm was pushing that content in return
@seannakamoto7216
@seannakamoto7216 Жыл бұрын
Well, I watched the donald glover vid, and just finished this. Holy crap dude, you're really talented! You showing up on my feed randomly shows you're boutta go places haha. Keep it up my guy!
@nobara5730
@nobara5730 Жыл бұрын
Same I got recommended outta nowhere an I’m subscribed 🙌🏻
@notfunnybutfunny7333
@notfunnybutfunny7333 Жыл бұрын
WOW not the skit writer being Ned's friend
@oscarthagrouch
@oscarthagrouch Жыл бұрын
it’s insane because i always thought of them as this picture-perfect couple when i was younger, hearing the news right when it happened was a massive shock
@mangoliys
@mangoliys 9 күн бұрын
i love how seriously you took this topic unlike snl. while some people may not understand and see it as a “random affair” lives have been changed and people have been hurt immensely from ned’s selfish actions. i know this is old news, but i recently got back into watching the try guys and this video explains the whole situation well. i’m happy they try guys have majorly been able to move away from this.
@berrymeringue
@berrymeringue Жыл бұрын
i remember seeing a tweet 2 days before it blew up detailing an entire reddit post ab his accusations.. and i saw small things ab it in the next 2 days b4 it COMPLETELY blew up i was hanging on to everything i could find
@caramiathegeek
@caramiathegeek Жыл бұрын
Another potential factor to the… tasteless SNL skit may be that multiple big wigs at SNL have been caught up with sexual harassment. If they sided with the other try guys, it would mean acknowledging their own behavior. Which would means quitting/being fired.
@5100eliska
@5100eliska Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so well put together. The editing is so good!
@foxyloxyBABE
@foxyloxyBABE Жыл бұрын
“Men holding each other accountable is not a common practice” exactly! Thats why everyone was so shocked when ned was fired from the company. From locker room talk to sexual harassment, men are not held accountable to their actions by other men, let alone women. According to statistics, 10 out of 100 rpists get reported, but only 1 out of them get jail time. Snl did their vid in poor taste. It was disrespectful, disgusting, and pathetic. For something so controversial it was so badly done too. They should have tried harder with the amount of copium they were on as they loved normalizing adultery and sexual harassment.
@Bebe-rn2fh
@Bebe-rn2fh Жыл бұрын
THIS is how you deal with a situation like this and I’d like to thank dear Keith, Zach and Eugene and many other Try Guys workers for handling it so well. I was initially devastated about the news, having been with the boys since day one. Never thought the unthinkable would happen.
@devinpierce2784
@devinpierce2784 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s really symbolic their logo is a TRI ceretops and they have 3 guys now
@GyaanCentral
@GyaanCentral Жыл бұрын
Absolute killer video, have learnt so much about storytelling ever since I found you! Amazing as always @dodford!
@HK-xn3ob
@HK-xn3ob Жыл бұрын
It's insane that no one is addressing the parasocial relationships people have built with these guys. Like it's okay to be shocked and just saddened but people were reacting like they were personally violated by this scandal lol..
@caramella2103
@caramella2103 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Really kept me engaged with the editing and script. Thanks for making this!!
@basicskellie
@basicskellie Жыл бұрын
Barnes and Noble near me is still advertising Ned’s and Ariel’s book for Valentine’s day RIP
@syra1541
@syra1541 Жыл бұрын
I was so surprised how big the scandal got, even as a frequent viewer. it actually shocked me
@HeliosFish
@HeliosFish Жыл бұрын
Your timing and choice with the music to accompany your well written essay were impeccable. Well done!
@hienvo-ll3lr
@hienvo-ll3lr Жыл бұрын
I don't know why KZfaq algorithm think that I will be interested in this video. But the storytelling and editing are so on point. Subscribed.
@GalaxyGal-
@GalaxyGal- Жыл бұрын
I think Ned also retraumatized a lot of people who've dealt with infidelity. You trust your partner with your life until you discover that they broke your trust in the most fundamental way in a way that you might never be able to trust anyone ever again. Ned was held up by fans as the ideal husband and him cheating just re traumatized people and i think that's part of why this blew up
@namirahdotpdf
@namirahdotpdf Жыл бұрын
THE CLOSING SONG..... IM DYING HAHHAHA WHAT A NICE WAY TO END A STRESSFUL SITUATION
@sirfizz6518
@sirfizz6518 Жыл бұрын
This question his literally been in the back of my mind from the start. Never watched them apart from the occasional video catching my interest on my feed, but certainly as a longtime user and lover of KZfaq I've known them as Titans with many admiring supporters. The official statement trended so rapidly that in spite having not watched them even once for a few years, it was front and center on my feed and somehow caught my interest. I had zero context and only became more confused as this whole thing swelled into a global mainstream media fiasco. Thanks for finally clearing this up. The thesis was absolutely perfect and you presented the information concisely for someone who stated at square zero. I barely knew who Try Guys are, now I actually understand a lot of the angles at play here, particularly what the fans experienced. Thanks for a truly solid, informative and poignant video essay. ✌
@cedricfrombelgium6106
@cedricfrombelgium6106 Жыл бұрын
Great editing and story telling. I hope more people find your vids
@ellajean3576
@ellajean3576 Жыл бұрын
This video was incredibly well made, props to you!
@EmeraldAxel
@EmeraldAxel Жыл бұрын
i love how you covered this- all the flair of a dramatic documentary but with a grounded and fact-based narration and conclusion; it's the first video of yours I've seen and i'll definitely stick around!
@alzychoze6591
@alzychoze6591 Жыл бұрын
The SNL skit misstep is a generational thing- that boys are challenging the ‘Boys will be boys.’ attitude endemic to all of history in a real way could be revolutionary.
@oldchanneltryagain
@oldchanneltryagain Жыл бұрын
got me hooked from start to end, such a great video, it's not even a subject i was interested in but the curiosity got me!
@prnv5
@prnv5 Жыл бұрын
man i just watched your video on donald glover after this and wow. subscribing immediately - the editing and video quality are absolutely insane
@goldenhourss
@goldenhourss Жыл бұрын
your narration is very clear simple and straightforward. loved the video 🫶🏻
@SeanOulashin
@SeanOulashin Жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful. You keep outdoing yourself!! Love it man.
@DodfordYT
@DodfordYT Жыл бұрын
sean 🥰🥰🥰
@lauvelyy4519
@lauvelyy4519 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic way to end a video. Never been so satisfied with a KZfaq commentary, the background music and a lovely conclusion. Perfect. Chefs kiss
@petrissonteo2065
@petrissonteo2065 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! The last soundtrack was really catchy, does anyone know it's name?
@amandacastle7209
@amandacastle7209 Жыл бұрын
I love seeing Boze in other people's videos 😊
@nschannel826
@nschannel826 Жыл бұрын
As a long time fan, while I'm glad The Try Guys has now gained a lot of the attention they deserved, I don't know how I feel about them gaining that attention through this drama specifically. I think that's the reason I'm getting kind of tired of it honestly.
@silviasimonetti8986
@silviasimonetti8986 11 күн бұрын
You also have to keep in mind that in the same period also Adam Levine (another “my wife”-man) was held accountable of cheating. So the public was already fuming with Adam, that’s also why the Ned was so criticised
@percyross7612
@percyross7612 8 күн бұрын
Also the controversy with John Mulaney, another wife guy, happened at the same time.
@Chocibunny
@Chocibunny Жыл бұрын
Amazing editing and storytelling! Loved this
@mason96575
@mason96575 Жыл бұрын
Your production quality is really spectacular - and you have a soothing voice 😁 subscribed!
@thaaabs_
@thaaabs_ Жыл бұрын
What a hook! I honestly didn't care at the start, but 30 seconds in I was like wow, I'm still watching.
@DodfordYT
@DodfordYT Жыл бұрын
LOVE to hear this
@raeannahoskinson2699
@raeannahoskinson2699 Жыл бұрын
Eloquently made. Thank you for this.
@ProfMcGonaGil
@ProfMcGonaGil Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!! Your editing and commentary are top notch. Subscribed!
@PhantasmPhoton
@PhantasmPhoton Жыл бұрын
damn dude this is a top tier video, I hope the algorithm gets it shit together and pushes you to the top
@gracier6018
@gracier6018 Жыл бұрын
everyone leaves out that he didn’t just cheat, he did it with an *employee*. him cheating was immoral but not illegal or cause for his removal, it was that he took advantage of a power dynamic between him and his employee, and it’s great that the rest of the guys took the right actions.
@aminated7027
@aminated7027 Жыл бұрын
The man was in charge of HR too smh
@lulunisrina
@lulunisrina Жыл бұрын
beautifully put! things got put into perspective and so easily understandable here
@wlsntech
@wlsntech Жыл бұрын
I hate you for making me watch this. It's the only thing I've watched on this whole thing because I didn't care and I still don't care. Thus proving your point on storytelling. Brave sir. But I'm still mad you got me to learn about this fiasco.
@DodfordYT
@DodfordYT Жыл бұрын
this is my favourite angry compliment I’ve received. thank you
@HeyQuinton
@HeyQuinton Жыл бұрын
Love the uploads - always great! Keep on creating man - you'll be at 1 M in no time
@IvetteAvelar
@IvetteAvelar Жыл бұрын
How am I just seeing this video ? It’s well executed! What a masterpiece! How has it not blown up yet ?
@juliabuonincontro8617
@juliabuonincontro8617 Жыл бұрын
I literally knew nothing about this until today. Thanks for the coverage!
@calissohot7010
@calissohot7010 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I've never seen someone go so in depth!
@mosesmoorhouse
@mosesmoorhouse Жыл бұрын
Hey dude I ADORE your editing skills!
@bunnyjuice
@bunnyjuice Жыл бұрын
Wow the best channels are always the most underrated, amazing video! 💖
@kaitlins_27
@kaitlins_27 Жыл бұрын
I knew vaguely of the Try Guys but had no idea why this incident blew up. This was a great description of them and the situation!
@geniusandabsent-minded1390
@geniusandabsent-minded1390 Жыл бұрын
I'm impresse with how you've covered the story and its participants. Excellent attention to the detail, I'm your subscriber now
@kennykenny5043
@kennykenny5043 Жыл бұрын
crazy how this doesn't have more views, the quality is **chefs kiss**
@tejsaiy9244
@tejsaiy9244 Жыл бұрын
Love the content! Keep up the great work :)
@DodfordYT
@DodfordYT Жыл бұрын
thanks tejsai!
@madisonkround3483
@madisonkround3483 Жыл бұрын
This video is really well done, I enjoyed the format.
@TheBokdol
@TheBokdol 6 күн бұрын
I love how Eugenes eye's were just fire.
@shulinzheng4786
@shulinzheng4786 Жыл бұрын
You make like, really well edited videos sir. I will watch your career with great interest.
@giraffe1219
@giraffe1219 Жыл бұрын
I don’t care much about any level of celebrity, and have never gotten truly upset or saddened by anything like this that’s happened to celebrities. But I had a genuine reaction of shock when I heard he cheated. And it IS because his marriage was his brand. I love(d) the try guys but he was probably my least favorite, but I did find his love for his wife endearing. But just seeing a member of a group of guys I found to be generally “safe” completely betray values he’d been displaying for years was troubling. It hit a nerve.
@waveboi93
@waveboi93 Жыл бұрын
This video is incredible. Could you make a video explaining how you made it
@amareyez8791
@amareyez8791 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent dissection of the situation and I think you really got to the heart of it: people cared so much because it was such a shock from the public persona
@dillionsiphone
@dillionsiphone Жыл бұрын
I’ll never get over how pissed Eugene was in the response video 😭
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