You do understand that Jesus only died for the FEW who are his chosen ones, his elect? That these FEW have nothing whatsoever to do with anything known as the/a church?

More than likely??? I would hope you’d be certain!

​@@insomniousdreamya.. i am not quite "sure" that the original commenter is "sure" about his own "eternal security" .. *we must believe [*at least, at one time] that the Free Gift of God the Father [YHVH/Ha'Shem] Almighty is: "Everlasting Life, thru faith in His Son, Jesus the Christ" our only true Messiah.. *Jesus the Christ "is" Who He says He is, and Who God the Father [YHVH/Ha'Shem] Almighty personally testified who Jesus is.. ● 1st John 5 : 11 ● Matthew 3 : 17 ● Mark 9 : 7 ● Luke 9 : 35 ● Hebrews 1 : 5 ● Psalm 2 : 7 *Christ Jesus our Lord "is" Everlasting Life, Himself.. ● John 14 : 6

@@lovealways2609 ,...Repent of your nonsense.

@@insomniousdream ,...The few who are actually saved, do not know they are saved. If anyone knew they were saved, then no faith is required as they already know. Faith is not knowing. The just (actual Christians) shall walk/live by faith (not knowing) not by sight (knowing). "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1 KJV I suggest you read Hebrews Ch. 11 very carefully. Show me where it states that all these people mentioned did what they did because of knowing or was by knowing? Or did they do it all by faith (not knowing)?

OSAS was created by Satan............ 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us............... Jesus said, HE who endures to the END shall be saved........ Paul?.... Taught obedience to Gods law is a requirement for salvation, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:5.... Lots more verses......

ha ha ha.. guess @jeff [*above commenter] is not quite "persuaded" yet?.. *well.. we are commanded to persistently continue to preach the true Gospel and witness to what we honestly believe to be true, out of honest love for Christ [and others], not for popularity in this dark and fallen world..

"No one can come to the Son [true Gospel of Jesus the Christ] unless, the Father draws them." ● John 6 : 44 ● Mathew 11 : 27

There is no truth in this totally blind, lost, deceived, unsaved man/channel. Repent!

He may be looking well, but inside he is a dead man.

Research this verse and look up some commentaries on it. God bless. :)

You are completely steeped in deception. This channel is not a Christian channel. These people are completely Biblically illiterate. Repent!

Sorry, but no, you cannot come. No one can come to Jesus. It is Jesus that comes to the few who God has chosen to save. And these few have nothing to do with anything known as the church. The command to come (believe) is the same as the command to keep the commandments, the laws and the sabbath. The command is there to show no one can do it. This is precisely why Jesus had to come. If anyone could save themselves as the 100% apostate church has deceived everyone to believe, then Jesus would have not had to come. We could have all just saved ourselves by coming/believing.

@@SaltandLight-yp6tu John 12:32 -- "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

​@@affirmative3542 ,...So, what you are saying is that all mankind is saved, that Jesus did not come for his sheep, Gods chosen ones, he came for everyone. That is not only completely ignorant but is exposes your total Biblical illiteracy. You could not be more wrong and more deceived. The few who Jesus came to save are not Biblically illiterate, not wrong and are not deceived. They are also not found in the church. Repent!

@@SaltandLight-yp6tu You deny the words of Lord Jesus Christ! You SAW that I merely quoted them. Jesus and the Father are one. He said in John 6:44, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day." John 6:44 with 12:32 mean that the Father is drawing all men through Jesus, but that drawing can be resisted. Not all mankind is saved, only those who have heard AND LEARNED from the Father (6:45).

@@affirmative3542 ,...No, sorry, but you simply do not understand the Bible, the Bibles gospel, nor the Bibles Christianity. There is NO ONE who God draws that resists. Every single person drawn by God will submit to God. God does NOT draw all men, he draws only the very, very few who are Gods chosen ones. And again, those very, very few who God draws (the actual Christians) have nothing whatsoever to do with anything known as the church that is all 100% apostate. You do not just have this all wrong, everything you believe and hold to is Biblically incorrect. Your whole christianity is a manmade antichrist fraud. There are NO Christians in anything known as the /a church. The very, very few Christians (those God has drawn/saved) are all 100% outside of the church that is the false prophet and will be cast into the lake of fire along with the rest of the Godless world. You, like all the fake christians snared into all the 100% apostate churches are totally blind, lost, and deceived. Repent!

The biblical command to put on the armour of god implies the possibility of failing, but instructs and equips us not to. Regardless, to fall away is still possible, and God remains faithful to whosoever has believed in him for everlasting life.

​@alexgarratt3808 If you walk away from the Savior rejecting Him you are damned and will spend eternity separated from God even if you said you believed at one time.

@@2Chronicles714_ Wrong! Thank God you are wrong. If you have the time or care, take any of the verses that make you think such an awful thing - and check into the free grace interpretation of those verses. What you’ll find is that none of the objections to free grace are biblical. In fact, the biblical evidence that free grace is correct is overwhelming!

@@alexgarratt3808 I adhere strictly to the word of God. I do not listen to what man says the scripture really means

@@alexgarratt3808 Example read Romans 1:21-32. They knew God [Past tense] They forfeited their salvation. God gave them over to a reprobate mind. There's no OSAS.

True Believers and False Professors - Bob Wilkin kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8h6aL1osMmzoJs.html Ray Comfort & Todd Friel - False Converts as Dogs in Vomit and Pigs in Mud - Bob Wilkin kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arp4Y694qcewoIU.html

No... that was a later accretion.

Absolutely, finishing the race results in a prize. Thankfully, everlasting life is not a prize, it’s a gift.

You also are completely lost. The text says something different to every person and everyone believes something different per their wrong understanding of the text. The Bible is only understood by the FEW who Jesus came to save. These few have nothing whatsoever to do with anything known as the/a church.

@@LukeCh.10verse16-mb8om John 12:32 -- "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

@@affirmative3542 ,...So, what you are saying is that all mankind is saved, that Jesus did not come for his sheep, Gods chosen ones, he came for everyone. That is not only completely ignorant but is exposes your total Biblical illiteracy. You could not be more wrong and more deceived. The few who Jesus came to save are not Biblically illiterate, not wrong and are not deceived. They are also not found in the church. Repent!

@@SaltandLight-yp6tu You deny the words of Lord Jesus Christ! You SAW that I merely quoted them. Jesus and the Father are one. He said in John 6:44, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day." John 6:44 with 12:32 mean that the Father is drawing all men through Jesus, but that drawing can be resisted. Not all mankind is saved, only those who have heard AND LEARNED from the Father (6:45).

​@@affirmative3542 ,...No, sorry, but you simply do not understand the Bible, the Bibles gospel, nor the Bibles Christianity. There is NO ONE who God draws that resists. Every single person drawn by God will submit to God. God does NOT draw all men, he draws only the very, very few who are Gods chosen ones. And again, those very, very few who God draws (the actual Christians) have nothing whatsoever to do with anything known as the church that is all 100% apostate. You do not just have this all wrong, everything you believe and hold to is Biblically incorrect. Your whole christianity is a manmade antichrist fraud. There are NO Christians in anything known as the /a church. The very, very few Christians (those God has drawn/saved) are all 100% outside of the church that is the false prophet and will be cast into the lake of fire along with the rest of the Godless world. You, like all the fake christians snared into all the 100% apostate churches are totally blind, lost, and deceived. Repent!

I also wouldn't conceide point one.

The fact is, what the world knows as the church has nothing whatsoever to do with the gospel, nor the Christianity of the Bible. If anyone is actually a Christian they will not have anything whatsoever to do with anything called the/a church.

The so-called Church fathers are not our standard for authority, the bible is.

@@DannyLoyd ,...Correct! The church fathers are those who went out from the apostles but were not of the apostles. "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." 1 John 2:19 KJV

Did you learn that from Norm Diamonte?

God chastises us when we get off track, because He loves us and wants us to persevere in the faith. If we ignore His chastisement, that's on us. Hebrews 10 is very clear on this. "Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.... For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries"

@@theTavis01 Hebrews 10:11-14 “And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered ONE sacrifice for sins FOR EVER, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by ONE offering he hath perfected FOR EVER them that are sanctified.” There is no more sacrifice for sins because one Sacrifice covered it all. Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.” When you were born to your mother you will always be her son, no matter what your relationship is with her. When you are born again you become Gods son. Nothing can change that. You will always be His son. There is a huge difference between kinship and relationship. They are two totally different things. Jesus died for all of our sins, one time. Hebrews 10:27 isn’t talking about Hell, (fiery anger) it is talking about judgement against a rebellious son. (Just like baptism isn’t always talking about water). Severe judgment 1 Corinthians 5:5 “To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.” So if a person commits continual sin, why would 1:Corinthians 5:5 say “…that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus”? Relationship and kinship are two different things. John 3:6 “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” The only difference is that one is flesh and one is spirit.

@@privatepilot4064 "There is no more sacrifice for sins because one Sacrifice covered it all." No, that's not at all what it is saying. It is saying that Jesus' sacrifice no longer applies "When you are born again you become Gods son." That's right! "Nothing can change that." Nothing EXTERNAL has the power to change that, correct. We can still choose to reject God though and walk away from the faith. Romans 8:38-39 is describing EXTERNAL phenomena "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Praise God! I read that verse at my baptism, it is so beautiful. But it says nothing about being somehow prevented from walking away if that's really what you want to do. "You will always be His son." If you endure in your faith, that is correct! Romans 8:23 "Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body." 2 Peter 1:10-11 "Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." "it is talking about judgement against a rebellious son. " No that is incorrect. That is what you quoted, from Chapter 12. Chapter 10 describes specifically a "fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries." That's not chastisement, that's the second death. That is why Paul finishes the passage with "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." OSAS demonstrates zero fear. Ziltch. Nada. "Jesus died for all of our sins, one time" That's right! But unless you are a universalist who thinks all people are automatically saved no matter what, you must acknowledge that there are criteria involved in accepting this gracious offer. Those conditions are faith and love. Those are not one-time things, but if we want to follow Jesus it is a lifelong commitment of faith and love. We must endure in those, daily picking up our cross and choosing Him over the world. The Bible literally says nothing about a one time thing, and people pretend that's true in an attempt to give themselves reassurance, but you never have any real assurance at all because how do you know if you really had the "right" moment of faith for your "once saved" to really be "always saved." In very stark contrast, enduring in your faith gives you much assurance, because you feel how close God is, and you know that even if your faith hasn't been perfect, if you choose God then He will accept you through His grace. "So if a person commits continual sin, why would 1:Corinthians 5:5 say " Because it says so that they MAY be saved. Like chastisement, God is giving them opportunity to repent. "Relationship and kinship are two different things." Sure pal. I have no idea what you think that means, but it's not in the Bible. Our relationship to God in heaven is also described as a wedding, when the two become one. If you think you're going to pull a legal technicality on God, you're going to be in for quite a shock!

@@theTavis01 Your argument isn’t with me. I provided the Scripture. I didn’t get indignant with you, but simply and respectfully provided Scripture. 2 Corinthians 6:2 “(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the DAY OF SALVATION have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the DAY of salvation.)” 2 Timothy 1:12 “For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that HE IS ABLE TO KEEP THAT (not me, but Him) which I have committed unto him against THAT DAY.” What day? The day I was spiritually birthed. Ephesians 1:13-14 “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were SEALED with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession (our bodies), unto the praise of his glory.” Kinship means being part of a family. Relationship is the way two or more people behave toward each other. Kinship and relationship is found throughout the Scriptures. You can’t have a relationship with your Father if you are not part of His family. So if you don’t behave properly toward your mother then you are no longer her son? She may discipline you however you will still be her son. Once you are born to her you can not reverse that. Once you are born again, likewise you can not reverse that. John 3:4-6 “Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (not baptism, it’s when your mothers water broke) and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” Birth is a one way trip. Once you’re out you can’t go back in. No matter what you do. You quoted Romans 8:38-39 “For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” I’m IN Christ Jesus. John 10:28-29 “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any MAN pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and NO MAN is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.” I’m a man, you’re a man. And He gives us eternal life and we shall never perish. Do we have the power to pluck ourselves out of His hand? Not according to that. No man means no one. Including me or you. And He said it twice. Ephesians 5:30 “For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.” You quoted, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God, it was a fearful thing when my Dad came home from work and I knew I was getting a spanking. Likewise with God my Father. But I was still part of the family, no matter what I did. God the Father doesn’t throw us out either. Hebrews 10:11-14 is saying that Jesus’ sacrifice DOES apply. It says it twice. In verse 12 and 14 it says His sacrifice was for sins FOREVER. (When I capitalize I’m not yelling, I’m emphasizing). Hebrews 10:17 “And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.” Actually, all of Hebrews chapter 10 makes verses 11-14 make much more sense.

So, how many of you discipline your children? and they chose not to do right ? " If you ENDURE CHASTENING" SO what happens if you do not endure?

Correct!

We will all live forever, either with God in His kingdom or eternally separated from God in the lake of fire

@@2Chronicles714_ ,...Yes, and all those who do not understand once saved always saved will be those who are cast into the lake of fire.

@SaltandLight-yp6tu What I have observed is that the majority of those who believe the unbiblical OSAS are not even born again since they reject what Jesus Peter and Paul say we must do to be born again. Can't forfeit what you don't have.

And in 1John it says if you hate your brother, you are a murderer and no murderer has ETERNAL LIFE .......wasn't much of an eternal life was it.....

it's perseverance in FAITH, not perseverance in "performance." The dishonesty of this false dichotomy is stunning. Was it a work the FIRST time you came to faith? No? Then why would it be work to CONTINUE in your faith? Makes literally zero sense. The documentary made this exceedingly clear as well.

@@theTavis01 Faith is not works . You're clearly equivocating . Faith is not repentance (turning from all sins till death) . Faith is being convinced of any given proposition . Eternal Justification before God is only by the singular means of acquiring the endless Righteousness that He imputes to all who believe in Him for eternal life : ..."therefore it (eternal Justification before God) is by faith that it might be ACCORDING TO GRACE that the Promise would be Certain" (Romans 4:16) . Doubtless certitude of the present possession of Everlasting Life that cannot be lost is the definition of faith in Jesus . Conversely , unbelief in Him (John 3:18) for what He actually Certifies (John 3:16,5:24,11:23-27) looks instead to wholly fallible and purely subjective metrics (one's hopefully... but never certain...level of performance till death) . So , your attempts to transmute a merit free instrument (faith/belief) into a lifelong perseverance in an Unknowable level (%) of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (faithfulness/repentance/obedience/works) has zero Exegetical support . There's not a single passage in Scripture that affirms your proposition . There's nothing remotely logical nor Exegetical in the presuppositions of Conditional "security" (a textbook incoherence) . It turns Jesus - and the inspired writers of Scripture - into liars . The Object and Content of one's faith whereby one is irreversibly born again is the quintessential issue . Your/their Object and Content clearly denies the Objective certitude of the possession of irrevocable Everlasting Life this side of the grave . Rather , one is left Topping Out at DOUBT of one's Everlasting destination , the antithesis of assurance (faith) . The Object and Content therefore looks to one's "hopefully good enough behavioral performance" (faithfulness/obedience/fruitfulness/works) , instead of His free and undeserving Gift . That is patently contradictory to every conceivable Evangelistic/Everlasting Life/Justification before God passage in the Bible : John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:10-14,5:24,6:28-47,10,11:23-27,20:31 ; Acts 16:31 ; 1 John 5:1,10-13 ; Galatians 2:16,3:26 ; 1 Timothy 1:16 ; Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians . As such , all who hold to Perseverance in Performance till death cannot qualify nor quantify their assertion . Nor have you done so , very obviously .

@@soljos1190 "one's hopefully... but never certain...level of performance till death" Like I said, you are trying to force this into a FALSE dichotomy of faith vs works. The question is, do we need to endure in our FAITH? Not works. Faith. Got it? "There's not a single passage in Scripture that affirms your proposition" That is mind-numbingly wrong. You just make excuses for all the verses which CLEARLY talk about the need to endure in our faith. For example, when Jesus says "the one who endure to the end will be saved" and "Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life... I am coming soon. Hold fast what you have, so that no one may seize your crown." And Paul says "stand firm in the faith" and "If we endure, we will also reign with him; if we deny him, he also will deny us;" "a lifelong perseverance in an Unknowable level (%) of hopefully good enough behavioral performance " Ugh. Faith is NOT behavioral performance. It's faith. And the SAME exact thing can be said of OSAS - how do you know you achieved "real" faith at one magic moment??? If you can answer that, you can ABSOLUTELY know if you are enduring in your faith or not. "instead of His free and undeserving Gift" Enduring in faith is CONTINUING to trust in God's gracious gift, instead of taking it for granted. "Your/their Object and Content clearly denies the Objective certitude of the possession of irrevocable Everlasting Life" none of that verbage is actually found in the Bible.

@@theTavis01 "Faith" in What ? What's the Object and Content of one's faith whereby one is irreversibly born again with Everlasting Life? You didn't clarify .

@@soljos1190 "'Faith' in What?" Faith in God, obviously. No pretentious language needed because I'm not trying to shoehorn wild teachings into the text. Mark 11:22 "And Jesus answered them, 'Have faith in God.'"

Revelation 13 : 15 - 16 is about the mark of the beast. What in the world are you talking about? Are you luke warm? What metrics are you basing your analysis of being luke warm on? What does that have to do with your salvation? Jesus tells us what he means by luke warm: Revelation 3 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

You believe in yourself , since you don't believe in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Everlasting Life (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) .That's the Object and Content of your works righteousness soteriology , as follows : 1.Repentance (turning from all sins till death) which eventuates in your perseverance in an Unknowable level (%) of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) . 2. Physical Water Baptism . 3. Continuous "faith" till death (even while sinning (?) ... how's that work exactly ?) in self selected attributes//DBR . That's undeniable . Yet , Scripture contains no passage stating : "Whosoever repents (turns from all sins till death and perseveres till death in an Unknowable level of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) /Is Physically Water Baptized/Continuously believes (in self selected attributes/DBR) ...even while sinning (?) ...shall be paid with/earn/merit/be rewarded with entrance into His Kingdom" . Your complete inability to articulate how "good ya gotta be" till death , is affirming the impossible , but lays bare the utter Unknowabilty of ever possessing the free and meritless Gift of Everlasting Life , this side of the grave . That anyone can find the above affirmation convincing is as tragic as it is continuing evidence of 2 Corinthians 4:4 .

Because they want to boast in their works. That hope I was when I was self righteous and “folding the law”. The flesh can’t stand faith alone because it has nothing to do with it. All boast, glory, credit and keeping belong to Christ.

Those who fight against the truth of once saved always saved do so because they are not Christians and hate the truth of the Bible.

They are trying to warm people who believe this error of osas, which IF true would appear at least once in scripture

@@2Chronicles714_ it does not appear to those that are blind. read the gospel of John.

@@2Chronicles714_ ,....The fact is, if you were not spiritually dead and blind as the Bible and Calvin has told you, you would know that the entire Bible tells you once saved, always saved. What the unsaved (the spiritually dead and blind) do not and cannot understand is, they dont just have this concept wrong, everything they believe and hold to is Biblically incorrect. Their/your whole fake christianity is all a manmade fraud. Here is another Biblical concept that you do not understand, in contrast to once saved always saved, those like you who are not saved, are never saved. Not saved is never saved! Those like you (freewillers/OSAS rejectors) are not saved, and will never be saved. You are all the accursed of God. Every human comes into the world either already saved, (1%) or already rejected by God and just a brute beast made only to be destroyed, (99%). These of the 99% group are what fills all the apostate churches and who reject the Bibles truth of once saved always saved. Repent!

What is it you're affirming - specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe in order to be born again with irreversible Everlasting Life ?

@@timgrady4630 Nope. One must believe in order to benefit and walk in eternal life, but humanity was included in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. We were born again by His resurrection, by His will and choice. We were bought at a price and had no decision in that purchase. When one grasps that, they are truly free and life is transformed beyond imagination.

​@@bradharford6052 @bradharford6052 There's not a single passage in Scripture that affirms your proposition . John 6:35 directly refutes that contention . Nowhere in Scripture does it affirm the following : "Whosoever was born again by His resurrection, will and choice shall enter His Kingdom". Belief in things "about Jesus " (attributes/works of Redemption/DBR) are never the Object and Content of one's faith whereby one is irreversibly born again with Everlasting Life . Only faith in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Everlasting Life sets the Anchor in the Water , forever . Your affirmation doesn't resemble John 3:16 , nor any conceivable Evangelistic/Everlasting Life/Justification before God passage in the Bible . If your affirmation were true , then you have no ontological existence . No volitional capacity whatsoever . Monovolitionism reduces to sheer fatalism . Irresistible Grace is a textbook Oxymoron . As incoherent as it is impossible to square with His love . Worse yet , one can Never be Certain that one is a fortuitous recipient of a purely arbitrary and wholly Unknowable Secret Decree , that " Belief that Jesus is the Christ - John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:1-39,5:24,6:28-47,11:23-27,20:31 ; 1 John 5:1 ; Romans 1:16 ; Galatians 2:16,3:26 ; 1 Corinthians 1:21 (the giver of the endless Gift) alone regenerates .

​@@bradharford6052​@bradharford6052 The book of John says otherwise . Gotta be born again by faith in Him FOR eternal life . Faith is a capacity to understand and believe in Him for His doubtless Guarantee (John 3:16) . Faith isn't extrinsically forced upon anyone . "Chosen" and elect are never aligned with "for eternal salvation" nor are those who end up in the lake of fire "chosen/elected" for eternal condemnation by God Himself . Chosen/elect for service , not for one's Everlasting destination . God doesn't do the believing for us , because we're not puppets . Jesus doesn't force His love and Everlasting Life on one who couldn't have done otherwise than determined by some Secret Decree . That reduces to complete absurdity . Monovolitionism is impossible to sustain , Exegetically and logically . Otherwise , this alleged "God" is in fact ultimately the cause of all sin , suffering , sickness , death (totality of Evil) , if all is "meticulously determined" by a Singular Will operating in the Universe .

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You are correct. The reason so many fail to understand the Biblical truth of once saved always saved is because these people are not saved. They all remain totally spiritually dead and blind.

Jesus did not "pray" for the whole [entire] world, but [*only] for those given to Him by His Father to be Eternally Saved, and receive the Free Gift of Everlasting Life.. ● John 17 : 9 ● Romans 9 : 14 - 24

yes.. "no one can snatch us out of the Father's Almighty hands" ● Romans 10 : 28 - 30

My 200 verses that seemingly uphold OSAS trump your handful of verses that seemingly don't.

@@ianthomasyoung1134 There are no OSAS verses in the bible. There are promises of God to those who believe and continue to believe but they do not apply and would not apply to those who only believed for 15 seconds 15 years ago.

Once Saved Always Saved" (Eternal Security): Is It True? - Bob Wilkin kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i6mjp6SElrevfZ8.html Do You Need to "Continue to Believe" to be Saved? - Zane C. Hodges kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbyDe8ShvNy5h2g.html

@@GESvids Yes, you need to continue in the faith. What's the problem? You can't read? Col 1:23: "if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister." 1 Tim 4:16: "Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist in this, for by so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers."

@@GESvids Let me help you out since all you can do is spam links in your comments. No it's not true and yes you have to continue to believe.

What are you affirming ? What is it - specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe in order to be born again with irreversible Everlasting Life ? Thanks .

Jesus is not a quitter, thats why we place our faith in him and not ourselves.

@@alexgarratt3808 that's true! And we must ENDURE in that faith, not some momentary one time thing.

@@theTavis01 So happy that’s not true! The moment you believe you have everlasting life, which by definition is everlasting - present tense (John 5:24) When you drink the water of life, you never thirst again! Eat the bread of life and never hunger! Believe in him and never perish!

​@alexgarratt3808 Believe in the present tense means going on believing by faithfulness. There are no promises for those who hear only and don't obey but only for those who hear and obey. James 1:22 Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

Instead of asking a bunch of ignorant questions, why dont you read the Bible and find out what the answers are yourself?

Correction please He does not believe that, but only what Lord Jesus promises and proves in the one He saved. As far as the commandments go, You cannot keep them. When you try you sin just like the rest of us.

@@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018 Jesus said "If you love Me, keep My commandments." John 14:15 and then 1 John 2:3 again says "Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments." If you think it's "not possible" then you are denying the power of God because Matthew 19:23 "with God all things are possible" and 2 Peter 1:3 "By his divine power, God has given us everything we need for living a godly life. We have received all of this by coming to know him, the one who called us to himself by means of his marvelous glory and excellence." Of course we will sometimes waver in our faith and sin, but then by confessing and repenting we get right back on track. Pretending like your sin doesn't matter is not even vaguely what Christianity is about.

@@theTavis01 Also in 1 John 1:7 it says, " If you walk in the light as he is in the light ......the blood of Christ cleanses us from all unrighteousness......v9 " If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness". So, part of walking in the light is confessing our sins to the Lord, for we all sin, but when we confess our sins, he will cleanse us. But Bob believes you do not have to walk in the light, you can walk in darkness and Bob believes you will still be saved....Once Saved Always Saved, you can do whatever you want......

@@DannyLoyd yes I agree, it's a very dangerous teaching

If I Believe in Jesus for Eternal Life, Can I Live However I Want? - Zane Hodges kzfaq.infolB37Uv1GJSs

The simple fact is, no one who does not understand that once Jesus saves one of his elect, they are always saved is a Christian. The entire church is filled with fake christians.

The simple fact is, no one who does not understand that once Jesus saves one of his elect, they are always saved is a Christian. The entire church is filled with fake christians.

@@user-hf5wf7lc6x ,...The sad truth of the matter is, if it is called the/a church, then it is apostate from God, from the truth of the Bible, and from the Christianity of the Bible. The few actual Christians that exist are all outside of everything known as the/a church.

Why Faith without Works Is Still Faith - David Janssen kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbyXgM-py8W8h40.html Romans - Part 42 - Rom 11:19-26 - A Privileged Position --The Re-Grafting of Israel - Ken & Kathryn Yates kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9OiZ8p9qpOUoWQ.html

There's not a single passage in Scripture that affirms that one can be Un- Born Again (lose Everlasting Life) . Once one receives His endless Gift , acquired purely by childlike faith in Him for His doubtless Guarantee (John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:10-14,5:24,6:28-47,10,11:23-27,20:31 ; Acts 16:31 ; Galatians 2:16,3:26 ; 1 John 5:1,10-13 : "Shall not perish...has passed from death to life and shall not come into judgement... cannot be plucked from My or the Father's hand...I shall in NO WISE cast out... shall never die...I will never leave you nor forsake you...I shall raise up on the last day" ... ...His doubtless Guarantee contains not the least shred of Doubt . Yet , all who look to their wholly fallible and entirely Unknowable level of perseverance in Performance till death can NEVER rest assured of this unequivocal Certitude . Patent unbelief in Him for what little children can easily understand and believe , instantly having irrevocable Life at that moment .

Grace Evangelical Society P.O. Box 1308, Denton, TX 76202 About Resources Store Events Seminary → BEING CUT OFF GOD’S OLIVE TREE (ROMANS 11:19-24) Being Cut Off God’s Olive Tree (Romans 11:19-24) March 13, 2020 by Bob Wilkin in Blog - Being Cut Off From The Olive Tree, Eternal Security, OSAS, Romans 11:19-24 You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. Therefore, consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? What Was Paul Warning the Believers in Rome About? A few weeks ago, I received this email question from one whom I’ll call NOSAS: Greetings in Christ Jesus, To start, I am thankful for your ministry; it is desperately needed. I may not, to this point in time, agree with all theological positions expressed by GES. I do believe Scripture unquestionably asserts that all are saved by grace through faith without works of any kind, be they front loaded, mid loaded, or back loaded. If any gospel does require works; then it is a false gospel with a false Christ, and it cannot save. I don’t hold to OSAS. Were the definition such that it was understood as I understand Scripture declares it, I would and do hold to it. That declaration being Christ is our LIFE and if we depart from Him in Whom our Life is, and Who is our Life, then there is no life in us. That departure being not believing on or in Him anymore for eternal life in persistent unrepentant unbelief. I believe Scripture through Romans 11:20-24 (and other Scripture) firmly informs us we shall be cut off. Some have said this speaks to the Jews. That assertion seems obviously incorrect; it is speaking to both and then zeroes in on the Gentile believer. I was hoping to get GES’s position on this Scripture. This is a tough question to answer because I agree with most of what NOSAS (not Once Saved, Always Saved) said. Our salvation is not of works, whether before, at the time of, or after faith. That is well said. It is by grace through faith, apart from works. Nice. But then NOSAS says, “If we depart from Him in Whom our Life is, and Whom is our Life, then there is no life in us.” The major problem with this statement is that it contradicts the Lord’s promise in John 3:16; 4:10-14; 5:24; 6:35, 37, 39-40, 47; 11:25-27; and Rev 22:17. The Lord promised that once we believe in Him we will never perish, will never thirst, will never hunger, will never die spiritually, and will never come into judgment concerning our eternal destiny. That is clear and definitive. Three Reasons Why We Know the Issue Is Not Being Cut Off from Eternal Life There are three answers regarding Rom 11:19-24. Answer #1: Whatever it means, it does not contradict the promise of life that the Lord made. Even if we can’t figure out what it means, we can be sure what it does not mean. Answer #2: The context is not about one Jew and one Gentile. It is not about individual Jews and individual Gentiles. It is about Jews as a group and Gentiles as a group. The church age is “the time of the Gentiles” (Luke 21:24). That time will end soon. (Some would say it ended in 1967.) Before the church age, from the time of Abraham onward, was the time of the Jews. But in AD 70, the time of the Jews ended. (Some would say it ended earlier, maybe in AD 33.) Individual Jews have been born again during the church age. Probably millions of Jews have come to faith in the past twenty centuries. There is nothing in Rom 11:19-24 to suggest that an individual Jew ever lost everlasting life or that an individual Gentile ever could. Answer #3. The olive tree does not represent the place of salvation. It represents the place of blessing. See this blog by me for more details. Here is a quote from the just-mentioned blog: In his commentary on Romans, Zane Hodges says concerning Rom 11:20, “Very simply put, should the Gentile world cease to be a responsive instrument for the gospel, God could return His focus to Israel. This would mean the cessation of the present period of Gentile privilege and a return to the original privilege of Israel as the chief vehicle for the divine message” (p. 336). Objections Answered First Objection and Answer. The second person pronoun, you, is used seven times in Rom 11:19-24. All are singulars. That might lead one to conclude that Paul is talking about individual Gentiles being cut off. Maybe that is what confused NOSAS. However, we know that Paul is using you as a collective pronoun. Dictionary.com says, A collective noun refers to a type of noun that encompasses “a whole group as a single entity” as well as the members of that group. It is considered singular in form. For example, words like faculty, herd, and team are collective nouns-they’re singular words but represent a group. There are collective nouns for people, animals, objects, and concepts. The same is true with pronouns. Whenever a pronoun is used in reference to a group as a whole (rather than to the individuals within the group), a singular pronoun is used. The GES staff achieved its (not their) goals. The faculty reduced its (not their) number by two. The team is on a losing streak due to its (not their) injuries. Paul is comparing Gentiles (you) with Jews (“those who fell,” “they,” “these natural branches,” “their own olive tree”). Since the Jews in the comparison are a group, then so are the Gentiles they are being compared to. Nearly every commentary indicates that you in these verses refers to Gentiles as a group. Richard Longenecker writes, “The diatribe form begins with the plural address ‘to you Gentiles’ (humin ethnesin) in 11:13a and continued in a more sustained fashion by the use of the second-person singular ‘you’ (su, se, and sou) and second-person singular verbal suffix ‘you’ (-as) here in 11:17-24” (Romans, p. 892). Hodges says, “Paul’s su is a collective personification of the Gentiles” (Romans, p. 335). Second Objection and Answer. Some Calvinist interpreters see the Reformed doctrine of the perseverance of the saints in these verses (e.g, F. F. Bruce, Romans, Revised Edition, pp. 206-207; John MacArthur, Romans 9-16, pp. 117-18). They think the tree refers to salvation, and those cut off are false professors (by their failure to persevere, they prove they were not saints). They see verse 22 as a warning that if a believer fails to persevere, “God’s patience will be exhausted and His offer of grace withdrawn, that blessing by association will be of no value when unbelievers face the living God in judgment and are eternally cut off from Him” (MacArthur, Romans 9-16, p. 118). There is nothing in the context to suggest that this is a warning to false professors. Paul repeatedly indicated in Romans that he is writing to born-again people (Rom 1:7, 13; 6:1-14, 15-23; 7:1, 4; 8:12; 10:1; 11:25; 12:1-2; 15:13, 14, 15, 30; 16:3-16, 17). Nowhere in the book does Paul question the eternal destiny of his readers. If we assume that Rom 11:22 is a warning that a believer who falls away goes to the lake of fire, then we understand Paul to be teaching justification by faith plus works. That would be a direct denial of justification by faith alone. Why would Paul contradict in Rom 11:22 what he clearly taught in Rom 3:21-4:25? Answer: he would not. If your theology does not fit the text, then change your theology, not the text.

@@soljos1190 I understand where you're coming from, and believe me, I have poured over Scripture over and over to reconcile these opposing views on "works" and I believe the truth lies in a misunderstanding of what faith is and looks like. There are a couple truths in Scripture that Jesus and Paul taught about this that I don't see taught by churches today that also make sense of some harder to understand verses. 1. Faith is inseparable from what you do. It's automatic. It really is fruit on the tree. Genuine faith (not counterfeit) passes God's tests and is shown to be the real deal. 2. Being "in Christ" (which brings no condemnation) is on the condition that one is led by the Spirit and not the flesh. Only those "in Christ" are raised to life (1 Thess 4). That said, there are difficulties I have not yet resolved. I see the foundation for the "have you done enough good works" argument, but I think it's misplaced. I think Scripture is clear enough that It's not about perfection and that faith is something that can grow and develop while we rest in the grace of what Jesus has done. At the same time, "God is not mocked. Everyone will reap what they sow. Those who sow in the Spirit will reap life. Those who sow in the flesh will reap corruption". The Greek word used for corruption is the same word used for hell in other places. I agree that some verses make it look like there is no way to be lost, but the condition is on believing, having "faith". If I am correct that we don't understand today what faith even is (and I think all of Scripture affirms this idea), then perhaps we need to be careful to understand what faith is before we decide we're in it. (2 Cor 13: 5-6) You never addressed Rom 9 and 11, just attacked the idea outright. I believe my understanding of faith reconciles both your view and mine. I will look at your references when I have some time and give my take.

@@soljos1190 I've responded generally in another comment, but it was getting long and I wanted to address this. You claimed that nowhere in Scripture does it say that the born again can be lost. What do you do with the verses about "not blotting out names from the book of life"? And how can the great apostasy even happen if Christians cannot depart? Also, Ezekiel 18. " 21 “But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. 22 None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live? 24 “But if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die."

You have spoken correctly, praise be to God.

Ephesians 2:8-9 & John 3:16 are simple enough that little children can easily understand and believe in Him for His doubtless Guarantee of Everlasting Life, instantly investing them with endless Life . No better news , ever . Cuz Jesus cannot lie to the little ones .

I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) : How good are you ? How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ? Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY per : 1. Second . 2. Minute . 3. Hour . 4. Day . 5. Week . 6 . Month . 7 . Year . 8 . Decade . 9 . Lifetime . I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply . Make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .

What was created by satan (you/Godless mankind) is the apostate churches freewill gospel. It is all you spiritually dead and blind, unsaved, Biblically illiterate freewillers that are those who went out from the apostles who were not of the apostles. You and your manmade freewill gospel are all the accursed of God. You are all vessels of wrath and brute beasts made only to be destroyed as all your ignorant, unbiblical comments/beliefs show to anyone who is spiritually alive.

𝘙𝘦𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘳 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘵'𝘴 𝘥𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘷𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘩𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘨𝘢𝘳𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 "𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯". What we see in the historical record is not the actual traditions of the past, it's the subset of traditions that we have record of. Based on the poverty of records from that era, there is scarce evidence that today's "traditions" even vaguely emulate the traditions of that time. These traditions certainly were not monolithic. The poverty of records provides a very straightforward lever for unclean spirits to use to influence and distort the plain message of Scripture. All they need to do is destroy the old texts that represent traditions of the truth. Even within the New Testament, the conflict between the Alexandrian and Antiochan text types demonstrates doctrinal meddling. A distinction to be made is between Christianity-of-the-trenches and Christianity-of-the-scribes. Would Paul have written his epistles if he was not incarcerated? Eternal security is a Christianity-of-the-trenches teaching. In John 5:24, John records Jesus as teaching that he who believes has passed from death into life. So, here we have a clear teaching of eternal security. 1 Corinthians 1:26-31 ought to be a red-flag for those seeking extra-Scriptural traditions, to say nothing of Christ's depictions of the scribes: woeful fools akin to the Pharisees. The Heresy of Orthodoxy by Andreas J. Köstenberger and Michael J. Kruger provides a great documentation of how incoherent early "tradition" was, and The Doctrine of Grace in the Apostolic... by Thomas F. Torrance demonstrates how quickly after Christ's death (the direct disciples of Christ did admirably, everyone after discernibly falls away) we can see divergence in the teachings of the church.

The fact is, no one who does not understand that once saved is always saved simply are not Christians. The entire church is 100% apostate and is filled with fake christians. There are no people more Biblically illiterate and more opposed to the truth of the Bible than are those who claim to be Christians.

The context of John 10 is clearly talking only about the 11 disciples as He also says that "I have lost none except the son of perdition" in John 17:12. Read Colossians 1:22-23. You can fall away.

@@benjaminofperrin I'm sorry but this is exactly wrong The Bible says what must I do to be saved and it's believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. What's your trusting in is your works to be good you have to be good and not sin to get to heaven The Bible clearly states that salvation is once and always.Ephesians 1:13-14 (KJV) 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 1 John 5:11-13 (KJV) 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. John 10:28-29 (KJV) 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. John 14:16-17 (KJV) 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Ephesians 4:30 (KJV) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

@@df2dot Another OSAS believer that mis-characterises my position. I won't bother with you because you've already demonstrated that you don't understand my position but I pray that you find the truth. Let me give you a hint. There are many types of seals. The seal spoken of is a seal of authenticity, not a seal that cannot be broken. Seek further, you'll find that OSAS is a false belief. Endure till the end and do not take sanctification lightly.

@@benjaminofperrin Ephesians 1:13-14 (KJV) 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 1 John 5:11-13 (KJV) 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. John 10:28-29 (KJV) 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. John 14:16-17 (KJV) 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Ephesians 4:30 (KJV) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

All unbelievers in Him for what He certifies (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) are slaves of sin . Forever unregenerate . Only those born from above have access to the New Man that wars against the old man (flesh) There are plenty of nice , moral , and very very "decent" folks who do loads of "good stuff" (Mormons , Catholics , Buddhists , Church of Christ , Nazarenes...and tons of other Cults) , but who really thinks they "deserve" to enter His Kingdom by way of having Performed "well enough" . Couldn't be a better indication of deception (2 Corinthians 4:4). Couldn't be a more poignant example of contradicting His merit free Gift that only is acquired by faith: ... therefore it (eternal Justification before God/imputation of His perfect righteousness) is by faith that it might be according to Grace that the Promise would be Certain" (Romans 4:16) . So , Eternal Life/Eternal Justification before God is the Free Gift , apart from working for it . Only faith in Him FOR eternal life - 1 Timothy 1:16 - (as Paul himself specifically designates as the Object/Bullseye) regenerates and imputes His PERFECT and sinless righteousness as the endless Gift of Everlasting Life : John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:1-39,5:24,6:28-47,10,11:23-27,20:31 ; Acts 16:31 ; 1 John 5:1,10-13 ; Galatians 2:16,3:26 ; Totally apart from all behavioral performance till death (works) : Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; Book of Galatians . Jesus took away all the sins of the world as the Lamb of God . He finished all the work of Redemption that the Promise of life can be unearned , unmerited , undeserved , and without cost to the recipient . You're a sinner . So am I , and every mere human . Thus , infinitely removed from Perfection . But a Perfect Righteousness is the requisite standard of entering His Kingdom . The Free Gift alone imputes the Perfect and Sinless New Man that has access to fellowship . "Only God is good" , He clearly stated . On our best days we Top Out at Filthy Rags . It's all about His finished work . Not our attempts to $pay for a Free and undeserved Gift . All or nothing . Either/Or . If one sins at all - ever - one has disqualified oneself from entrance into His Kingdom . The only solution is to wear the Proper Robe of Righteousness that He alone gives (Romans 4:1-8) to them that believe, apart from trying to take credit for being "hopefully - but Never Knowingly - "good enough till death"...a blatant impossibility .

@@soljos1190 I believe we are saved by faith, an obedient faith, not a dead faith, and I believe we are saved by faith when we are baptized into Christ. I gave you scriptures that prove that to be so. Gal. 3:26-27 says, " For in Christ Jesus you are all Sons of God through faith. For as many of you AS WERE BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST HAVE PUT ON CHRIST". So, I become a child of God through faith when I am baptized into Christ, I PUT CHRIST ON IN BAPTISM, can I be saved and not put Christ on? or be IN CHRIST? The next one I gave you was Col 2:12 " You were buried with Jesus in baptism, in WHICH YOU WERE ALSO RAISED WITH HIM THROUGH FAITH IN THE WORKING OF GOD........God made ALIVE TOGETHER WITH HIM , HAVING FORGIVEN US ALL OUR TRESPASSES." So, again, through FAITH I am raised up with Jesus and when I am raised up with him, GOD WORKS ON ME, HE MAKES ME ALIVE AND FORGIVES ME OF MY SINS. This is done through faith. Romans 6 in baptism it says I am BAPTIZED INTO JESUS CHRIST and that we are raised to WALK IN NEWNESS OF LIFE, my old self is crucified with Jesus and MY SINFUL BODY IS DESTROYED AND I am no longer enslaved to sin. I am FREED FROM SIN, this is done when I am baptized. So, I am saved by faith, an obedient faith and i am saved by faith when I am baptized into Christ, my sins are forgiven. So, why didn't you simply start with Luke 24:47? Jesus says, " Repentance and forgiveness of sins should BE PREACHED IN MY NAME BEGINNING FROM JERUSALEM". Beginning where? Jerusalem, and up to this time NO ONE HAVE HAD THEIR SINS FORGIVEN IN THE NAME OF JESUS. This happens in Acts 2, where Peter preaches the first gospel sermon , the DBR of Christ. So, who in John had believed in the DBR of Christ? tell us. In V37 they asked Peter, " What must we do?" and Peter said, " Repent and be baptized IN THE NAME OF JESUS FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS...." and this goes with Gal 3:26-27, Romans 6 and Col 2:12 As you keep reading in Acts 2 it says, " those who received the word and were baptized were added to the saved, v41 and v47. Also in v44 notice it says, " And ALL WHO BELIEVED WERE TOGETHER", so the "BELIEVED" are those who received the word and were baptized. Baptism in the name of Jesus didn't start until Acts 2 and it was for the remission of sins. And, you see the same thing in Acts 16:31-34, it tells you how to believe in Jesus, " And they SPOKE THE WORD OF THE LORD TO HIM........AND HE WAS BAPTIZED AT ONCE WITH ALL HIS FAMILY......AND HE REJOICED....THAT HE HAD BELIEVED IN GOD." So, how did he know about baptism? when it says " they spoke the word of the Lord to him"? B and the "BELIEVED IN GOD", WAS AFTER HE WAS BAPTIZED. Eph 2:8-9 talks about the works of the law, not works of faith. Romans 3:27 says that boasting is excluded through the law of faith, and I have shown that baptism is of the law of faith, so boasting is excluded when you are baptized. In the book of Gal 3:27 it says we are baptized into Christ, we put Christ on. So, again, I believe we are saved by faith when we have been baptized into Christ. Now, please answer Col 2:12-14, Romans 6 , Gal 3:26-27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, 1 Peter 3:21

@@DannyLoyd @DannyLoyd Nowhere in any Evangelistic/Everlasting Life/Justification before God passage in Scripture does it state the following: "Whosoever repents (turns from all sins) and walks in partial?... mostly??...complete???... obedience/faithfulness/fruitfulness/works till death , shall upon death be paid with/merit/earn/be rewarded with entrance into His Kingdom". Repentance is works , not faith . Same for Water Baptism . Yet , that's clearly what you're affirming . That undeniably contradicts Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3;9 & the book of Galatians . Water Baptism is never found as the Necessary condition , nor Object of one's faith whereby one is irreversibly born again with Everlasting Life , Exegetically . Not once . Nor are your conditions in accord with δικαιόω 'dikaioo' for 'justify' ; or dikaiosune/Justification before God (carries the meaning of "to count, reckon, or declare righteous") . This imputed Gift of Everlasting Life is never the result of one's behavioral performance (works) of any sort , at any time as Romans 4:1-8 undeniably affirms . Romans 3:20-5:11 precisely describes the sole means of acquiring the endless imputation of His PERFECT righteousness , obtained only by faith in Him for His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Everlasting Life: ..."therefore it (eternal Justification before God) is by faith that it might be according to Grace that the Promise would be Certain" (Romans 4:16) . Faith alone secures the forever Free Gift of Endless Everlasting Life , and invests the believer with His PERFECT righteousness by way of imputation (Romans 4:1-8) . There's not a single verse in the Bible that devolves upon Evangelism/Everlasting Life/Eternal Justification before God that has a condition of regeneration other than simple childlike faith in Him for it . I'm a sinner . You are also , as is every mere human who's ever lived . On our Best Days we're infinitely removed from His Flawless Standard . Thus , to enter His Kingdom , we've got an insurmountable problem . One can only enter with 100% (24/7/365...for a Lifetime) righteousness . Not partial or even "substantial" righteousness . Jesus took away all sins in His PERFECT work of Redemption , fully satisfying the payment of all sins for all time . Thus , on that basis alone , He can be "just and the justifier of them that believe in Jesus" . The Free Gift is without cost to "whosoever that is thirsty" for the Water of Life (John 4:1-39) . That Free Gift is His endless Life that adorns "whosoever that believes in Him" . Not , "whosoever that BEHAVES in Him" , as is the position of every Judaizer , and unregenerate Scribe and Pharisee who seek to "justify themselves" by means of self righteouness , which Tops Out at Filthy Rags . According to His clear Word : "Noone is good but God alone" , He stated . One must be irreversibly born from above the only way He clarified : simple childlike faith in Him for what He actually Certifies (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9). Little children can easily understand and believe in Him for His doubtless Guarantee , instantly having irrevocable Life at that moment . Because He cannot lie to the little ones . No better news , ever .

@@soljos1190 In regards to Repentance, Acts 17:30 " The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he COMMANDS ALL MEN EVERYWHERE TO REPENT....". So, repentance is a COMMAND OF GOD, do we need to obey his commandments? 2 Cor7:10 " For godly grief produces a REPENTANCE THAT LEADS TO SALVATION and brings no regrets...." So, why didn't you answer my scriptures I gave about baptism? Gal.3:26-27 plainly says that in Christ Jesus we are all sons of God through faith, For as many of us who have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. So, we become sons of God when we have been baptized into Christ, when we PUT CHRIST ON THROUGH FAITH. Must I be IN CHRIST? Must I PUT CHRIST ON? Why didn't you answer Col 2:12-14? It plainly says that we are buried with Jesus in baptism and that we are RAISED THROUGH FAITH IN THE WORKING OF GOD. The working of who? The working of God! So, what does GOD DO? God makes us ALIVE TOGETHER WITH HIM AND FORGIVES US ALL OUR TRESPASSES. Why didn't you answer Romans 6? Talking about baptism, It says we are raised to walk in newness of life and that our old self is crucified with Jesus so that our SINFUL BODY MIGHT BE DESTROYED....NO LONGER ENSLAVED TO SIN....we are FREED FROM SIN and if we have DIED WITH CHRIST, WE SHALL ALSO LIVE WITH HIM. In Acts 8:35 it says that Philip preached Jesus to the Eunuch, so how did the Eunuch know about water baptism? In Acts 16:32 it says they spoke the WORD OF THE LORD TO HIM and that same night he was baptized, with all his family, So how did he know about water baptism when it says he spoke the word of the Lord? He also REJOICED after he was baptized. In Acts 10:33 it says that the Gentiles were to hear all that was commanded by the Lord, and in Acts 10:47-48 Peter says, Can any man forbid water? and HE COMMANDED THEM TO BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. So, baptism in the name of Jesus is a command from the Lord, must I obey his commandments? In Act 2:37 They asked "What must we do"? and Peter said " Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus....." so baptism is something we must do. In Acts 22:10 Saul/Paul ask the Lord " What shall I do?" and the Lord said " Go into the city and it will be told what you must do"......and he was told by Ananias in v16 " Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins..." so, baptism was something he had to do. In baptism we are freed from sin, Romans 6:7 and notice Romans 6:22 " Now that you have been FREED FROM SIN and have BECOME SLAVES TO GOD, the return you get is sanctification and it's end, ETERNAL LIFE" so, in baptism I am set free from sin and the end I get eternal life. John 3:16 is the believer who is born of the water and the Spirit, John 3:5 or did Jesus change his mind 11 verse later? Eph 2:8-9 is talking about works of the law, not works of faith and baptism is of the law of faith. In Romans 3:27 it says boasting is excluded through the law of faith. Lastly, in John 3:16 how long must they believe? one second? one minute? one hour? day? month? year? Can they believe like the demons? a dead faith? or must it be an obedient faith? Rev2:10 " Be faithful unto death and I will give you the crown of life" must I be faithful unto death? You say no....please answer the scriptures given. I will send more later

@@DannyLoyd Your affirmative proposition was not met with the NECESSARY Exegesis to sustain your assertion . You're affirming that one's perseverance till death in a Never Knowable nor Quantifiable level of behavioral performance (works) till death is NECESSARY to enter His Kingdom . You quoted a variety of passages : none of which rise to the level of meeting the Burden of Proof . 1. Nowhere did you cite the following , which would undeniably prove your point : "Whosoever repents (turns from all sins till death) has Everlasting Life"...or "is born again with irreversible Everlasting Life" or "is eternally Justified before God" . Not once . Nor : " Whosoever perseveres till death in (some ?... mostly ??... flawless???--- you must Necessarily QUANTIFY the Requisite level (%) that Objectively regenerates) hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) shall ---upon death---earn /merit/ be paid with/deserve... entrance into His Kingdom" . None of your citations explicitly and objectively contain an Everlasting/Endless/Eternal Life concomitant with your above-mentioned affirmation . Not once . Nor : "Whosoever that doesn't repent (turn from all sins till death/perseveres till death in some?...most??... totally flawless???) behavioral performance (works) till death shall go to the endless lake of fire". Objectively and undeniably , none of your passages sustain that proposition . Yet , that's exactly what you MUST PRODUCE to Exegetically sustain your affirmation . I'm not at all convinced of your assertions .

Jesus nor Paul ever said OSAS. In fact both said the opposite

​@@2Chronicles714_ @2Chronicles714_ 1. Repentance is nowhere found - Exegetically - in the Book of John . You found nothing in the book of John that Objectively supports your Repentance as a NECESSARY condition of being born again with irreversible Everlasting Life, in its contents . Yet , that's what you MUST produce to prove works righteousness soteriology . Not a convincing Methodology . So , you cannot produce the slightest shred of evidence in support of your affirmation . A reasonable person should conclude that this insurmountable problem cannot accord with the Laws of Logic , nor advance one's supposition . What you're attempting to do is transparently clear to anyone dispassionately in pursuit of Objective truth , rather than Eisegetically smuggling in works righteousness soteriology at the expense of the data . Arguing in a Circle (Begging the Question Fallacy) never comes off as persuasive . This is a textbook example . 2. John 20:31 explicitly and unambiguously states the purpose of the book . It exactly contradicts your affirmation . As do every passage in its contents devolving upon Evangelism/Everlasting Life . As does every conceivable Evangelistic/Everlasting Life/Justification before God passage in the Bible . Not once do your 3 NECESSARY CONDITIONS occur , in a single passage . The absence of evidence - in support of any affirmative proposition - is Objective proof of its incoherence . That which is unsustainable is Necessarily untrue .

@Ydarg09 Curios why you purposely ignore the commands of repentance in Matthew Mark Luke and especially Acts which explain how to be born again. Do you really think John didn't preach repentance? Mark 6:12 So they [the disciples] went out and preached that men should repent [that is, think differently, recognize sin, turn away from it, and live changed lives]. On the day of pentecost which is the start of the church John was there when the first time in church people asked how to be saved. Acts 2:37-41 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart [with remorse and anxiety], and they said to Peter and the rest of the apostles,(Including John) “Brothers, what are we to do?” 38And Peter said to them, “Repent [change your old way of thinking, turn from your sinfull ways, accept and follow Jesus as the Messiah] and be baptized, each of you, in the name of Jesus Christ because of the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise [of the Holy Spirit] is for you and your children and for all who are far away [including the Gentiles], as many as the Lord our God calls to Himself.” 40And Peter solemnly testified and continued to admonish and urge them with many more words, saying, “Be saved from this crooked and unjust generation!” 41So then, those who accepted his message were baptized; and on that day about 3,000 souls were added [to the body of believers]. Here's Paul Acts 20:21 solemnly [and wholeheartedly] testifying to both Jews and Greeks, urging them to turn in repentance to God and [to have] faith in our Lord Jesus Christ [for salvation]. Acts 26:18-20 to open their [spiritual] eyes so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness and release from their sins and an inheritance among those who have been sanctified (set apart, made holy) by faith in Me.’ 19“So, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20but I openly proclaimed first to those at Damascus, then at Jerusalem and throughout the region of Judea, and even to the Gentiles, that they should repent [change their inner self--their old way of thinking] and turn to God, doing deeds and living lives which are consistent with repentance. Read Acts 26:20 again. Repent of your sins Believe in Jesus Be water baptized Receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

@@2Chronicles714_ Acts 2:37 indicates faith in the Messiah/Christ which clearly regenerates (John 20:31 , 1 John 5:1) . Contradicts all works righteousness attempts . John preached repentance . So did the Disciples . So did Jesus . Repentance is not faith . Faith alone In Christ alone regenerates forever , and is the sole means of forever justification before God : ..."therefore it(eternal Justification before God) is by faith that it might be according to Grace that the Promise would be certain".... You would need your 3 NECESSARY CONDITIONS in every conceivable Evangelistic/Everlasting Life/Justification before God passage in the Bible to sustain your affirmation . You haven't done that . I preach repentance . But Never in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life . It is works (behavioral performance) in every NT usage . But works cannot eternally Justify before God (Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9; book of Galatians . Can't Square that Circle . Makes no sense . It is NEVER found in a single passage stating : "Whosoever repents (turns from all sins till death) earns/deserves/is paid with/merits/is (at physical death) born-again and rewarded with entrance into His Kingdom". Not once is turning from all sins till death a NECESSARY condition of entering His forever Kingdom. Nor indeed is perseverance till death in a Never Knowable nor Quantifiable level of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) . You've never shown us a single passage that affirms your NECESSARY CO-CONDITIONS.

​@@Ydarg09 Fantastic insights . Works righteousness never makes sense , kinda like thinking that a double amputee has a real "shot" at winning the Olympic 100 meter dash !

Sorry, but you are totally wrong and do not understand the Bible, nor the Bibles salvation/gospel/Christianity. Everything you have stated here is Biblically incorrect. Repent, and learn what the truth, the gospel, and the Christianity of the Bible actually is.

@@LukeCh.10verse16-mb8om 2 timothy 2:15 KJB - 2 CORINTHIANS 5:16 kjb - ephesians 3:9 KJB - galatians 1:8-9 KJB - galatians 2:7 KJB- romans 2:16 KJB - romans 16:25 KJB - 1 corinthians 15 1-4 KJB just a few scriptures you might want to check out but since you understand the bible so well you probably already know them there is no gospel of salvation in the red letters or 4 gospels for today in the dispensation of the grace of god