Especially when it's a bunch of lies !!!!!!

I buy lite thai coconut cream, not oil. It may have some oil in it. It can get thick but it doesn't harden. Its better in your coffee than cow cream and because I cook with water and not oil 1 tablespoon a day doesn't hurt, infact I feel satisfied after my first morning cup. I can get faint or hypoglycemic if I dont have coffee with a little oil in it.

@@thinkinoutloud.1 Did you know dietary fats and oils are the most common deficiency in North America. That's why so many people are using lip balm, skin lotion and other moisturizers. Eat more fats and oil. They are not the enemy. Avoid highly processed oils. DO NOT USE CANOLA,CORN OR MAZOLA OIL. FRYING OR DEEP FRYING SHOULD ONLY BE DONE WITH SATURATED FAT.

@@herbbowler2461 yes, a little oil and some fats are probably good for you. I think people who eat them have healthy softer skin than those who do not.

@@thinkinoutloud.1 There is no downside with a high fat and oil diet , as long as they are fresh and unharmed by processing. Avoid chemical loaded oils and G. M. Os. Like canola and corn oils.

+NobodysBusiness Yeah well this was made in 2013 and two years later they are saying you NEED cholesterol for a healthy brain and heart and statin drugs are actually giving people alzheimer's and heart attacks. So eat up and stay away from Crisco submarine lubricant.

***** Good luck if you are taking a pill for something that should be a natural thing to treat. Have you ever wondered how our species even survived without taking all those damned pills they want to stuff down your throat? I'm proud to say I'm a "pill free" CRACKPOT and the only pill I take is a A-Z vitamin. Grew up on all natural foods and herbs. If it's not true why are they taking statin drugs off the market now?

+sgeo2008 interesting, and yet every year there are more pills and life expectancy keeps increasing. Funny how that works.

Steven Miller ... and those people who are living longer are still eating healthier and more organic, the pill poppers are dropping off left and right you idiot. There are some of us who don't buy into the bull shit that our fellow humans actually care. So do you think I believe you do? GTFO!

+sgeo2008 well you seem like a mature reasonable person and you did provide all kinds of evidence backing up your claim. Yes you're obviously brilliant. You showed us all the lack of intellect you're dealing with, doing the opposite of what a moron like you do is probably great advice.

So you're going to get all the fats your body and brain needs every day from what whole foods? *crickets*

Nonsense

@@fifteenbyfive uhh... Yes. Where do you think these oils come from..? Coconuts, Olives, Avocados, Peanuts, walnuts, cashews, sunflower seeds, flax seeds, chia seeds. All WHOLE foods where you can get your HEALTHY fats from. Did our ancestors have a cold oil press? *crickets*

@@bobbys2643 Crickets? Nobody is going to be able to eat 100 cashews or 75 pecans a day to get the recommended fat intake on a 2000 Calorie/day diet and even if we suspend reality and say they did, their omega 6:3 ratios will be a disaster and they'd be better off not eating them at all. I didn't deny sources of oils, what I implied is that they're never going to get enough. You have to pound down ALA until it's coming out your ears to get the DHA your brain needs and that's just not going to happen.

@@fifteenbyfive you're just wrong. You just are. Chia seeds are strong omega 3s and 6s. If you're pretending that it's hard to get enough whole fats on a vegan diet you are very mistaken, my friend. I said crickets cause you did. ☺️ One serving of chia seeds is 4915 mg of omega 3s. Men only need 1600 women 1100. Even so, the only way in the SAD you're gonna get it is fish. And fish comes with more problems than the amount of ala and dha my friend. Stick to nuts and seeds. You'll be much better off. I say this to help you. 100 cashews is an easier feat than it sounds. However a serving of cashews is much lower than 100 PC.

lol. Yea, there goes my favorite snack of all time!

Just like grandma used to make

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You do realize you are pretty much a blob of fat...

Nathanxiangdarby You are a blob of blood, does that mean you should eat blood, moron?

+Vegetable Madness Ⓥ and that blood is made out of fat, protein and a little carb.....so yes you should ......

+Vegetable Madness Ⓥ That's no rebuttal. There is no "a priori" reason to think that liquid fat is inherently unhealthy. And olive oil obviously disproves your non-refutation.

+Vegetable Madness Ⓥ Ad hominem is not going to help your cause. Olive oil is near-universally accepted by medical and nutrition professionals to be good for health, with wide-ranging and powerful health benefits. Indeed, there are hundreds of studies which show as much. It can't do that if it has "little to no nutrition". There are dozens of micro and macronutrients in olive oil that endow it with its healthful properties. Just because you are not aware of them or stick your head in the ground does not mean they are not there. Are you denying that olive oil is beneficial to health? Also, why is oil "refined" fat? There are refined oils (and fats), and there are unrefined oils (and fats). If you want to have a methodical and scientific debate, respond properly instead of throwing out anti-scientific blanket statements and insults. Otherwise, don't bother.

It's been four years. How's the husband now?

I’d also like to know

Cuckold

It’s been 84 years…

R u serious ......

if its coldpressed coconut oil no. if its heated coconut oil then yes.

Not what the science says. Did you watch the video?

What the most current science states NO saturated fats is not the cause of clogged arties. Red meat is the cause of clogged arties.

GeekBoy03 I think if you move outside of the popular press this is not what they're saying. The cocoanut industry has done a brilliant marketing job. Nobody can doubt that. Personally I don't let marketing decide what I put in my mouth. Find me some credible peer reviewed science that isn't industry sponsored that proves eating cocoanut oil is a great idea. It's better than butter! That much I'll give you. Just eat whole nuts and seeds. They are actually good for you. Be well.

so much misinformation. inflammation, Apo(a), small dense LDL in a high LDL-P = CVD for heart calcification get UVB from sun and take epsom salt baths. the best case against excessive beef is colon cancer if no gut health/fiber

Thank you! Someone with common sense. All of the coconut oil worshipers on here are stupid and think they're medical doctors. And you don't need to just take Dr. Gregers word for it. www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/by-the-way-doctor-is-coconut-oil-healthful www.webmd.com/diet/features/coconut-oil-and-health#3 Here are many other reputable, world renowned clinics saying that coconut oil isn't great for you. So who should we trust? WebMD and Harvard or these keyboard doctors in the comment section?

Keyboard doctors...I like it!

Theres a HUGE difference between Coconut Oil and Virgin Coconut Oil.

i trust dr berg, not a dr promoting sugar and carbs

JZGamers It's not about which Dr. is more trustworthy, it's about which Dr's sources are more trustworthy.

Same here :)

+Adam Webb eat some?

+Adam Webb Coconut oil as tooth paste? wut?

+Sayuas Mixed with baking soda. Some use it as deodorant also.

+Sayuas yeah dude, mix with baking soda and works better than any toothpaste I've ever tried. In fact I haven't bought toothpaste in 6 months now it works that great. Makes your teeth shiny smooth and white!!!

@sairah laira Most of the cholesterol found in serum is produced by the liver. Foods don't need to have cholesterol to raise cholesterol. That said, nobody can identify the causal mechanism between cholesterol and heart disease. There is only correlation.

@@fifteenbyfive Are you dumb or just stupid? There is a plethora of science to show a CAUSAL link between all animal products and some (only processed) other products. Our liver produces ALL of the cholesterol our body needs. The reason our number 1 killer is heart disease is because of our high intake of animal products.

@@bobbys2643 no, seed oils like canola oil, vegetable oil, corn oil and soybean oil that Americans eat everyday cause heart disease.

@@yulloveyullove326 find me a study. That's what you believe, prove it.

Coconut oil is one of the best, specially if it comes from Kerala, the coconut paradise!!!

"Confusing" should have been a red flag. Now six years later I posit that this information is more dangerous than useful granted the context in which the video began.

+gesus44 sounds like a strange choice over butter, but hey, to each their own...

+gesus44 interesting points ,if anyone else is searching for coconut oils benefits try Niposcu Coconut Oil Adviser (do a search on google ) ? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my mate got excellent results with it.

gesus44 ewww heeeheee

Joe Sapphire Coconut oil is healthy. So is butter and milk

Bluesky RAW butter and RAW milk...yes.

yeah,doctors are only out to make megabucks and don't give a shit about peoples health.

Thanks for sharing your story. What about total cholesterol?

What happened to cholesterol?

As I pointed out above, we now have solid research showing that higher HDL confers NO health benefits at all. It IS the 'good cholesterol', but only up to 60-100 mg/dL. Beyond that, zero benefits at all. You'd best go back and look at your other numbers, especially LDL-cholesterol and Apo-B.

no oil, why do you need to extract oil at all and then add it to your food again?

sean kinnane ugh... AGREE

Some doctors think all nutritional components are the same. Like natural sugar & processed sugar. This is the problem.

@@AceDeclan true you should eat whatever makes your body feel great don't listen to doctors listen to healthy people who eating those healthy fats and carbs for years. Same story with Eggs, Walnuts/ nuts in general.

@@ChrisAnderson1986 Cocaine makes my body feel grrrreat, I'll follow your advice.

@@goku445 Just don't over eat it/ too many leaves, as with other plants. you'll have to balance it.

Me too. I have kinky hair

yes there are some studies that show coconut oil as healthy. The problem is everyone is showing a study trying to prove what they say but they all contradict themselves.

Coconut oil is good for making your own beauty products, like hair conditioner or body lotion, personally I wouldn't eat much of it.

Just listen to your body, some doctors are "drug pushers".

Hate to break it to you coconut oil lovers but it would be best to stay away CO. I remember for a week I was doing coconut oil pulling and on a Sunday afternoon, I had signs of a heart attack. My sister is a RN, and is continuing to go higher in the field. For about two weeks or so, I had my right forearm, throbbing a couple times in a row. Never has this happened to me until o started taking coconut oil. Stopped using coconut oil for a while and a few days ago, started using it as a Deodorant mixed with baking soda. Helped with my odor a ton but now just yesterday, Sunday afternoon my right side of my chest started to throb a bit. And now not too long ago, I felt a sharp pain on the top right of my head. A strange feeling still lingering there. A lot of the coconut oil has been absorbed through my armpits , which is my guess. I don’t think I’ll be messing with coconut oil anymore. This stuff is not doing me good.

@ Jose B LOL!! I've been eating coconut oil daily for 18 months and have had no problems. Your "heart attack" was probably caused by all the sugar and processed carbs you've been eating along with that coconut oil

Is she still alive?

My thoughts exactly. I use it every day, but very sparingly.

Do you know why scientists do controlled trials and statistical analysis instead of relying on anecdotal evidence?

The ratio is not everything. The level is. And your weight loss is probably the only reason your cholesterol hasn't skyrocketed. A friend of mine was swearing by coconut oil to lose weight, all the way up until his first heart attack.

Great! Just don't be overly buoyed by that high HDL number of yours. Beyond a certain minimum required for optimum health (60mg/dL) increased HDL confers NO additional health benefits AT ALL! Of course, that means any ratio involving HDL, such as total cholesterol:HDL, is essentially meaningless. Dr. Gregor and Dr. Gil Corvalho at his KZfaq channel explain this in detail.

+Darren Gordon LOL. And how does ANY of the studies that Greger cite here support the title of this video? It amazes me how easily fooled some people are by quacks who rattle off a few studies. My favorite is Greger using a protein study (i.e. high protein) to bash low carb high fat diets. And why is Greger quoting the meat industry when bashing coconut oil?

***** LOL. Your confirmation bias is hilarious. I have to commend you on applying logic to your argument. I'll take a look at the rebuttal to the Siri-Tarino study. This piqued my interest since rarely do you see a rebuttal of a meta-analysis. The hilarious part is that you never apply the same logic to the studies you cite. Here's a good example... [For example, it did not attempt to measure what people ate when they did not eat saturated fat.] You then go on to cite several studies but don't bother to ask the same critical questions... You and I have been over your studies and I have pointed out similar problems (e.g. what kind of PUFA?) which you promptly ignored due to your confirmation bias. You're a hoot. Btw, have you ever looked at the experiment Stefansson did in 1930 after his polar explorations? He and Anderson ate ONLY meat for a year in a hospital setting. I'll dig it up for you if you can't find it. Like the Inuit they lived with for years earlier, they both did just fine on meat protein and saturated fat. LOL.

***** [Good luck on your journey and thanks for the laughs.] I don't know if Tom's a vegan, but he sure is good for a laugh. He likes to appeal to authority and their "expert opinions" when they agree with his beliefs. ;-)

***** [your assertions and claims are exposed for the nonsense they are] Assertions that you used to misrepresent and now do not even bother to state in your rebuttals. LMAO. Exposed? The only thing you've "exposed" is YOUR ad hominem assertions and claims about other people. [no wonder you are so desperate to warn people off from looking at the evidence summarised in such reports.] Thanks for another good laugh. I have repeatedly suggested that you read the evidence that YOU cite. btw, did you look at the evidence the IARC referenced to make their outrageous claims about meat and cancer? How 'bout the evidence used by the two recent Harvard studies on statins?

***** [Gee,what do you think those studies I cited were?] They certainly weren't what he asked for. LOL. What you cited were "expert opinions". "I asked for medical research that demonstrates correlation between dietary fat intake and CVD" Did you look up the Stefansson medical research in 1930? And I'm pretty sure Stefansson and Anderson don't have the protective Maasai gene. ;-)

Coconut oil definitely can raise your ldl cholesterol, however, it is oxidized ldl cholesterol that clog arteries. That's why he was talking about how coconut oil is not inflammatory like animal fat is at the end of the video, which raises questions that it does clog arteries. Inflammation from lifestyle helps oxidize ldl cholesterol.

The problem with what he is saying is that the basic premise of he assertion is a scientific fallacy. To be specific the truth is that cholesterol is your best friend and not the demon that it has been characterized as. As such the fact that coconut oil can raise your cholesterol is completely irrelevant. Without getting specific, cholesterol is the most misunderstood and incorrectly quoted element in the human body. When you don't consume cholesterol your body will manufacture it because it is essential to life. Cholesterol goes up when inflammation in your body goes up so that it can repair damaged tissue. Proper tissue repair equals longer life. Statistically the oldest people in the world have high cholesterol. Pharmaceutical corporations are not interested in truth. They are only interested in disseminating bullshit that will increase statin drug profits. That being said, dietary balance without over consuming anything is intelligent approach to health. Check out the book, "The Cholesterol Myths" Cheers!

ive commented above that i think would interest you ;)

watch " enjoy eating saturated fat", and "Oiling America" which might be the truth!

There are a lot of studies that dispel the lipid hypothesis first forwarded by Ancel Keys which influenced the FDA food pyramid. Recent information has pointed towards carbohydrates as the source of small particle size LDL which is responsible for atherosclerosis (clogging of arteries). Our bodies (especially our brains) are built with fats and cholesterol. Thinking cholesterol is evil is what got America to it's present state of obesity and heart disease. It is currently being re evaluated and some of us are integrating this new information into our lives and reaping the rewards of better health.

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Yep I agree and i might go further....For all theories and tests, if people are healthy eating coconut I tend to go with that.

Thou Art That It's true but the main societies that do tend to be in south east asia and other regions where fresh food is more abundant and processed/junk food isn't. They also tend to be more active and generally a lot thinner than folks from the west so it's impossible to claim coconut oil as the one aspect that protects them

Dan Dobson In general I agree. I read an article [mercola] that suggested some specific peoples that ate loads of the stuff n were ok. But i dunno if it's right ?

Do grow coconut/palm trees near the sea? Is there fish in that neighborhood? I can see the connection, Do you see it to? Mother nature offeres antidotes in the nearness of each other. Fish is an antidote for the 85% bad fats in coconuts.

Hmm interesting. It could be a non-causal relationship ie fish is healthy and so coconut eating peoples happen to be healthy too? Do you have a reference for the connection?

Andréas Remis PLANT BASED VEGAN what causes oxidizing and how to stop it?

Milan Stankovic Time, improper storage, heat. Best to get fresh, in small batches, and grind at time of use!

Tnx! I gueess its not good to store flax seed powder also...nice one.

Milan Stankovic I'd recommend storing whole flax seeds instead and grinding only just before use.

+Line Broe unfortunataley it won't help. first of all, PUFA autooxidize even in closed dark bottle after about 3 weeks of storage. Second, human body has low ability to carry safely PUFA. Vitamin C and E won't prevent oxidation. When you reach limit of about 15-20 grams per day of PUFA consumption your triglycerides will sky rocket, doubling or tripling presense in blood. Thrid. Most of sold oils have very high (up to 50%) content of trans fats. Trans fats do not contribute to health at all. Actually they're toxins which destabilize body functions. 4. PUFA omega-6 are proinflamatory since PGE2 are derived from them. 5. Most people use oils for frying which is very bad idea.

just use a little water or veggie stock. oils are bad for your heart. I haven't cooked with oil for 6 months now

So in other words Dr.Greger is not taking it far enough to the right conclusions on coconut oil. And generalizing that all cholesterol is bad leaving out the details of the science .

Tom Goff Well done Tom, now gives us the scientific fast to refute my 'nonsense' and who are my cranks. (trick question, they are scientists)

You are better off looking at the meta research, where numerous studies with hundreds of thousands of subjects are subject to peer revue. Unfortunately most of the evil science comes from the US, were the original low fat guidelines came from in 1977 after Ancel Keys proffered his spurious research to support the his lipid hypothesis.

There you go again, name calling. You jump to the defence of Keys and acuse me of 'repeating nonsense' where I made no reference to "sensational books" You discount any thing that is contrary to you beleifs, a tactic honed by Keys, and the Harvard School of Medicine, in dealing with anyone who questioned his Lipid Hypothesis. There was no refuteable evidence in Keys work but he was politically adept at denegrated his competition. He only had his work accepted by the American Heart Association when he made it onto the executive committee. Take up your argument with Nina Teicholz and you will fall at every 'objection' Science doesn't care what you believe.

Tom Goff "The Big Lie" A hackneyed approach of the paranoid psychotic!! "It must be true, I read it on the internet!! You bring back memories of Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf. “libelling a dead researcher . . . “ J’ACCUSE!!!

i think youre pretty much right. i also think that you pick your fuel. if you chose high quality fat then leave the carbs. if you chose carbs (natural good quality) leave out the fat. as long as you each both with neutrals (greens) i thibk youre ok. I read lots of reports on plant based diets with heathly outcomes and good reports on keytonic diets with healthy outcomes. but mix them together and your in shit lol. :)

Travis Sherwood I miss my offspring back when they were little.

***** Fatty liver disease develops from excess fructose, especially free fructose, consumption. Kidney damage and intestinal cancers have complex factors effecting them. An excess consumption of protein can be one factor but only when under consuming vegetables as they have countering protective factors that grains do not offer. In fact a normal consumption of meat combined with an over consumption of grains is just as risky as only over consuming meat for intestinal cancers. Also it's been shown that dairy consumption is protective against gout and gout related kidney stone formation. Of course little of that even matters for a ketogenic diet because the goal of the diet is to keep protein to the minimum requirement to prevent lean body mass wasting along with keeping carbohydrates low. Too much protein actually will kick someone out of keto faster than too many carbs.

There are plenty of things that are both of those, that are not oil. That's like saying "Well, he didn't mention that cocaine makes you lose weight." Doesn't sound too smart when you put it like that, does it?

Check out dr.berg about coconut oil. You might like the guy.

Who cares about your personal experience?

​@@jtaiv2798 personal experience is valid

Thanks SO much for your comment. I recently started taking 1 spoon of coconut oil a day and wow do I feel so much better everywhere!

​@@ianhesfordsort of but India is full of heart disease I read not just from wealthy so called western types just from massive intake of ghee. This comment was likely very poorly informed if well intended. It's all moot without these magical figures from the blessed region with no illness.

@@jtaiv2798- Really?? Most people watching this video wants to learn about health benefits/side effects of coconut milk/oil. Anyone’s personal experiences is a plus in learning.

I like the way you put it. Our liver produces cholesterol for a reason. It is not the enemy. Most people absorb only about 5% of the cholesterol. They eat

whats that Zem? say wot?? I think diving into battery acid is unhealthy! I know stuffing Muck fast food into your face is unhealthy! Drinking 10 cans of soda every day will put lots of spots on your teats! say wot??

bounty bars are gmo

bountybars are healthy m8 i eat 3 a day theyre loaded with goodness

Thanks a lot those are my weakness , after you mentioned them I went to the wholesale shop and bought a box , I'm on my 3rd bar , I love the 2 individual bite sized bars that come in each pack 😡 so delicious GMO or not , I have to put the rest away I can kill them quickly. no sarcasm here I'm serious I don't eat junk food much but dam I love these things . " paused typing to grab one last one " ...

Is there coconut in Bounty? Bounty's taste like ass mahn

well if we blame the statins that force the liver to produce small HDL particles which penetrate the artery walls... so how do we answer the blood plague that build up before people consume statin. how do we answer this study ?jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=286620 www.ajconline.org/article/0002-9149(62)90152-2/abstract were those bravemen has been consuming statin before they die ?coz they have blood plague since they are young. and how about this ..... www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/jar/article/PIIS0368131969800207/abstract am not working for big pharma nor selling their product, i dont care about them, i think their statins is not the problem of the arteries clog. the diet is the problem. i have seen a study 100% reverse of CVD by plant based diets.... so those meat is not necessary needed.

Christo Okulian Hi Christo - The plaque that has formed on the arterial wall is basically the same as a scab on your skin. Imagine there may be dozens of these scabs if not more and sooner or later they will break away and travel downstream. Poor diet - meaning anything that was not around 100 years ago - I call non foods - if eaten multiply the problem such as table salt (sea salt & pink salt however R excellent). sugar, stress in all its forms stresses the arterial wall (& organs) & trans fatty acids (junk food,processed non foods like margarine,flat pack cheese and meats etc) - so to answer your question: If a poor diet / lifestyle situation has already produced plaque (which is NOT a build up of cholesterol but of the resultant healing ie: scabbing), then taking statin will exacerbate the condition. BTW no one has ever died from high cholesterol - I took Statin for 3 little weeks when suddenly I found I could no longer make a fist and my legs began to seize - I threw the pills away and was lucky to heal -It took 2 years after just 3 weeks of taking the poison to completely heal. Please note your GP is not educated in why you shouldn't take statin but in why you should. There is now a new disease recognized as Statin myopathy.. Many lives are being ruined and some 30 diseases including liver disease is emerging as the result of statin use. Problem: if you research anything that hinges on natural cures or is objective to drugs on a site ending with org / gov / cancer institute etc etc do not expect to find the truth, Sorry but that's the world today - However, there are people like me who know that all you really need in this world is to return to the now imaginary world of 50 plus years ago and eat what they did - no fast foods-no fried stuff-no soft drinks-no packaged or processed foods-no margarine - no fake milk nothing labelled low fat - diet - zero etc Go for fruit-veges-nuts-seeds-eggs-full cream milk-full cream cheese-full cream butter - understand your body craves oil, fat and glucose not carbohydrates and fructose - high cholesterol is healthy - 25% of the cholesterol in your body is in your brain (brain food) - your thyroid is a cholesterol guzzler - cholesterol and UV light makes vitamin D3 - By making smaller HDL your are transporting less Vitamins, less oils, less cholesterol and all the other fat soluble nutrients to the cells - High cholesterol equals longevity - It's all up side down my friend-Final thought "Cholesterol was never heard of until they invented margarine" I was there

Thankyou!!

VLDL IDL and LDL are the lipid carriers HDL collects junked cholestrols to make bile, homones, Vitamin D....etc

cocoa powder has saturated fat yes but this fat is stearic acid, it doesn't raise ldl 👏

***** Here's a meta-analysis: Circ Cardiovasc Qual Outcomes. 2011 May;4(3):337-45. doi: 10.1161/CIRCOUTCOMES.110.959247. Epub 2011 Apr 12. A meta-analysis of low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, non-high-density lipoprotein cholesterol, and apolipoprotein B as markers of cardiovascular risk

***** What that study reported was a lack of statistically significant improvement (as assessed by the c-statistic) of risk prediction by adding lipoprotein measures (i.e., apo B, apoA/apoB, total LDL particle number = LDL-P, or HDL-P/LDL-P) to the AHA 2013 risk calculator. But that risk calculator has HDL-C and Total-C as the lipid inputs; LDL-C isn't an input. So this finding that your provided the reference for does not show that the lipoprotein measures are only as good as LDL-C (rather, it does show that they were not detectably better than the AHA 2013 risk score, which does not use LDL-C). More to the point, when the risk prediction afforded by LDL-C and apoB (or apoA/apoB, or LDL-P) has been compared directly, the lipoprotein measures have almost always (perhaps even always, but I cannot guarantee that i have read every paper on the subject; I cited one in an earlier message) been superior. So, my assessment of the statement in this (and other videos by the same author) that LDL-C is the number one (lipid-related) risk factor for heart disease remains that it is unambiguously incorrect given the current state of the data.

+Tom Goff [There is still also, it appears, a fairly widespread focus by treating physicians on ldl c scores.] Of course there is. Most practicing doctors simply follow the guidelines of their professional associations which are influenced by big pharma. Treating physicians appeal to authority just like you. LOL. And why the emphasis on LDL-C? Because that's all that statin drugs treat. But the statin drug makers state right on the label that lowering LDL has not been proven to have an effect on CHD or CVD. All statin drugs do is lower LDL-C while making you very sick by interfering with the Mevalonate pathway. So doctors are prescribing statin drugs for millions of people to treat a "risk factor" that has little bearing on heart disease. What's really sad is that two recent Harvard studies (one statistical back-testing and one using a model) support giving statin drugs to more people with "slightly elevated" LDL-C. And if big pharma manages to convince the NCEP (and others) to change it's guidelines based on these two dubious studies, more people will needlessly suffer the severe side effects of statin drugs while putting a few extra billion dollars in the coffers of the big drug companies.

***** [Stating that referring to evidence-based guidelines is an "appeal to authority"...] Too bad that's not what I said. LMAO. You really should learn to read better. What's sad is that the US not only put the UK on the wrong path, it also put most of the western world on the same wrong path. For all the material you seem to cite, it's really remarkable how blind you are to the influence of players with vested interests in certain "guidelines". The recent Harvard studies are a prime example of how industry influences scientific "research". Not to mention the stuff you read but fail to understand the strings being pulled. Why pray-tell should LDL-C be the primary target of treatment??? LOL. ATPIII also recommends that total c and hdl be used to calculate risk but notes that ldl c should be the primary target of treatment.

***** [Treating physicians appeal to authority just like you. LOL] Oh good. You quoted me instead of paraphrasing. [Your meaning is crystal clear.] Apparently not to you. But let me spell it out for you. The treating physicians are appealing to their authority figures which are their respective associations. [And instead of considering the evidence set out in those gudelines...] Funny thing is that YOU cannot identify the evidence. "ATPIII also recommends that total c and hdl be used to calculate risk but notes that ldl c should be the primary target of treatment. " So where is the evidence that LDL-C should be the primary target of treatment? Why do statin drug makers state that lowering LDL-C has not been shown to reduce the incidence of CHD or CVD? Why treat a risk factor that doesn't correlate with CHD?

ahh, the wonders of subjective opinion (minus the inconvenience of scientific experimentation)

1too3fore - Apparently, there has been no study proving that saturated fats are bad for you at all: OK, so let's design a study to test what fats are good for you and what fats are not. Oh, Wait! It's already been done! From 2004 at ajcn.nutrition.org/content/80/5/1102.full - "Mozaffarian et al (4) report the opposite association. They found that a higher saturated fat intake is associated with less progression of coronary artery disease according to quantitative angiography." Carbs seem to be the culprit in coronary artery disease. And from a 2010 article in the same American Journal of Clinical Nutrition... reporting on a study involving 21 studies and nearly 350,000 people... scientists discovered that there wasn't enough proof to link saturated fat to either heart disease or stroke. From ajcn.nutrition.org/content/91/3/535 - "Conclusions: A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD. More data are needed to elucidate whether CVD risks are likely to be influenced by the specific nutrients used to replace saturated fat." And then there might also be a huge difference between cooked and raw oils and fats. My body is my laboratory and my experience says there is. Might be the element of cooking, heating, that makes fats not so good for us. Now THAT would be an interesting study.

Actually, lots of studies have proven saturated fats are very bad for your brain and heart.

1too3fore - Can you refer me to a few of them? I'd like to read them. Can you find me some that differentiate cooked versus raw saturated fats and vegetable versus animal saturated fats? Thanks.

ACIMessentials do an internet search on "saturated fat dementia" and "saturated fat heart disease".

agree.. me too... avoid consuming processed food like nuggets, fish/meat balls, and fast food..... more fish and vegetables + fruits !!!

But your experience is anecdotal. Just because that happened to you, doesn't mean it will happen to everyone. Also, what was your diet before you started eating coconut oil? What is it now? What is your lifestyle like? Other factors in your life could have contributed to your higher cholesterol levels. Are you subbing it for butter? How much did your cholesterol level go down? Basing the validity of coconut oil as "healthy" on something like your ONE personal experience is ridiculous. Thanks

coconut oil is "processed" food, why not just eat coconut meat instead?

love how. companies that process food into packaging get people to defend their cause. you can't make a lot of money selling coconut so squeeze oil out of it package it. create awesome marketing to push so called good qualities and get people to drink 2 tablespoons of oil that is equivalent to fat content of 10 coconuts. an amount Noone would ever eat but will drink. smh

Correct. But why let scientific facts get in the way of mumbo jumbo surrounding food?

yeah, knock yourself out, you'll regret it when you turn 50, if you make it that long.

1too3fore I'm 66, ride my bike 100 miles a week, run, yoga, but of course coconut must be bad because it tastes good. I should have known...

All oils are bad, been proven to reduce blood flow by 30% for up to 8 hrs after just 1 TBS of consumption. Congrats on your health. It smells better than it tastes, that's what you're experiencing.

Doriesep6622 I don't think this video is absolutely conclusive on the subject, scientific nutrition rarely is. I think the point is, if you use it sparingly, and it has no negative effects on your health, then continue. But, if like many of these so called "health experts" suggest, you should start using it as a health aid, not so fast. As for me, I don't use it, and see no reason to start.

Joseph1NJ Hmmm...he is not making a distinction between coconut oil which is hydrogenated as virgin coconut, which is not.

+Nathanxiangdarby I agree. The problem is that physicians don't usually check the lipoprotein particle count - just prescribe a toxic expensive drug which in the long run does damage to the heart.

My grandpa is 80 and smokes everyday. He is in perfect health! Guess that means smoking is good for you!

It works fire for me but then again I'm a Vegetarian

You are correct. This guy is not a scientist and doesn't know what he's talking about.

Right on, Bass Player! You have been reading the reliable sources.

Joao Coelho hahahaha /s

Bass, you are right. Here are some good materials on the subject: www.docsopinion.com/health-and-nutrition/lipids/ldl-p/ perfecthealthdiet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/O-Primitivo-Cholesterol.jpg

Joao Coelho The fact that he says "no one has ever died from high cholesterol" is an indication of how little research he's done on any of this. Familial hypercholesterolemia is fatal.

PeanutChoco1 "Familial hypercholesterolemia" is a genetic disorder that has little or nothing to do with dietary cholesterol and it is treatable. There is inevitability someone that tries to sync some obscure relationship as somehow connected to the topic. Nice try!

"suspecting" it allows you to continue with what you are doing and pretend there's no problem...

Come on Vegan propaganda about a food eaten by most vegans.......

If you had bothered to look at it, you would know it says it's not that good for you.

you didn't need to suspect anything if you had the initiative to look up the studies for yourself?

try to check the study before suspecting. i have been in your shoes for long time, until i investigate studies deeper

Did you not watch the video. If you switch from butter to coconut oil, you would theoretically see a decrease in cholesterol, but still higher from baseline💀

Anecdotal evidence is only evidence of anecdote. You either understand the scientific process, or you have your head confidently up your a.

+Peter Nordstrom sources?

+Peter Nordstrom I agree with you. however when one is vitamin K2 deficient, LDL apolipoproteins do contribute to atherosclerosis, partly with SFA, partly with PUFA content (the most). When you have adequate intake of vitamin K2 (at least 30 mcg) atherosclerosis stops or even reverses.

+Peter Nordstrom so then what in your opinion causes heart disease.

+Angelina Goes Vegan Ⓥ Simply a lack of selenium, causes cardiomyopathy. A lot of middle aged heart specialists have died of that one! They still don't get it, and especially athletes run dry of nutrients quickly because of their extreme lifestyle and the lacking foods of today. Eskimoes relished meat and especially fat. Dogs ate most of the meat. They had almost no chronic diseases or cancer like any natural tribe, but they did have cardiac trouble around the middle age. Their diet however was extreme with no balance, so one can wonder.

+Angelina Goes Vegan Ⓥ One word: Inflammation. Same with cancer.