Does EVA FOAM Sound Better than PE FOAM? The BEAUTIFUL Hope75 S BRASS

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#Keybored Is EVA Foam the NEW PE Foam? The BEAUTIFUL Hope75 S BRASS
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I have seen many keyboards come across my table and this is the most beautiful I have seen this year. The Hope75S comes with an absolutely gorgeous Solid Brass weight that completes the look of the keyboard. The Hope75 also comes with both PE and EVA foams to help tailor the sound to your liking... so what sounds better?
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@IMKebbie 2 жыл бұрын

Love how you go into the science of the sounds, something many of us find so important yet hard to understand.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Truly a hard concept even for me. Small metal box makes noise and it depends on so many different things :)

@JoharyKing 2 жыл бұрын

THIS ! ! ! At last I can find the sound I've been looking for and it being explained to me ! !

@eljrzy1513 2 жыл бұрын

I love how the sound comparison is short and consecutive! you can easily identify the difference

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the only Eva kind of sounds like PE but it preserves some of the higher tones better

@keynutbutter 2 жыл бұрын

been enjoying your content a lot, always get to learn and understand something new about keyboards

@chrisdotdash5154 2 жыл бұрын

The sound profile reminds me of the Simpler60, a more budget friendly 60% keyboard which also has a layer of EVA foam over the PCB. The Hope75 is such a good looking board and I actually think that the price is fair for what you are getting.

@sl4807 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks professor scott k, appreciate the way you make it easy to digest the information

@Caution40404 2 жыл бұрын

Wonderful video as always! Really enjoyed the content. I use Poron switch pads from KPrepublic and I always wondered how EVA compares to it. I tested with Poron vs. without. Poron basically makes the stock sound more pronounced and more crisp with GREAT bottom-out hand feel on the switch. It also gets rid of the dull/empty switch sounds and turns them into more crisp. I don't really know how to describe it any better.

@ricecloud 2 жыл бұрын

Yet again, a very informative and interesting video! thank you!

@atmojoe Жыл бұрын

I've finally found it! I've been looking for this keyboard once I saw the thumbnail few months ago! Very elegant looking keyboard.

@ivovass195 2 жыл бұрын

Now this is a good example where the high price reflects the great quality product. Loved the back to back sound tests, its a very useful, keep including this style. And as usual we got to learn something new and the why's about the foams, thank you

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

I think its all in that brass weight haha. That's where the money is going

@hoomanhoney 2 жыл бұрын

this got me hype for the Bubble75! Wish it had the light strip too though 😅 Thanks for providing so much information. You are my favorite reviewer because you try to explain sound profiles in depth

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

The bubble is a great sounding board! I'm sure it'll be fun to build also

@hoomanhoney 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored its gonna be my first mech outside of of modding a few pre-builts! listening to this got me so excited.

@ahoro4201 2 жыл бұрын

This is the best keyboard i have ever heard, great job!

@antonzakharov8689 2 жыл бұрын

Gorgeous keyboard. As always best keyboard content with a bit of sound science. Love this channel.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Really happy to hear that

@irdixstrife 2 жыл бұрын

wow the GB is open tomorrow, the kit looking good

@jowsey.mp4 2 жыл бұрын

The case looks absolutely amazing! Great vid as always scott!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you potato! It was crazy when I first grabbed this thing out of the box... It was like a brick!

@jowsey.mp4 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored That flex when you didn't use any foam tho.. that was some crazy flex

@ijmcd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking such an in-depth look at this keyboard. I watched Alexotos's build stream of the Hope75X and thought the board seemed a bit meh, but seeing your build of the Hope75S in the various differerent configs makes the board seem much more promising. It'll be interesting to see how it stacks up against the Mode Sonnet.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Alex is a well respected builder so his content is top notch. What's interesting about this hope series is its dependence on the foam. Without it, it's pretty weak. With it however, it sounds pretty good. Take it for what it's worth! Some hate boards that depend on foam, others don't care as much so ymmv!

@ijmcd 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored Yes, Alex's content is great and I'm definitely not trying to throw any shade. In a stream it's not going to be feasible to build the board in lots and lots of different configurations as you have in your KZfaq video, hence the value of watching a few different reviews of any new keyboard.

@ElNath645 2 жыл бұрын

My GOD this board is gorgeous. I love the lesson you gave on sound frequencies regarding the PE versus the EVA foam. It makes me wonder what frequencies the IXPE foam does. Anyways, you sold me on this. I preordered the Hope75 X Brass in White/Gold with the POM plate, though I'm wondering if I should get an FR4 plate. I kind of want a fuller sound, but if the FR4 plate has some flex cuts, I might get it. Just got to wait six more months... 😅

@user-1wy8wu01 8 ай бұрын

First guy on YT to back these mods with scientific data. You sir, are a bonafide legend!

@peasinacan 2 жыл бұрын

Finally, the Tecsee Carrots are getting some love! I would love to hear your thoughts on Anubis switches!

@Levonrix 2 жыл бұрын

amazing vid as always :)

@MarcoCarag 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh, I heard what you did there; "Hope this comparison..." 😆Just wanted to give you credit for that. And as always, another terrific and scientifically informed video. Love that you especially credited the source. Doing our community that unique trademark Keybored service!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your continued support Marco! Glad at least one person gets my jokes lol

@MarcoCarag 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored A thing I've been wondering -- is there much difference between the adhesive PE/EVA switch pads/tripods and the sheet foam of the same material? I will say that your comparison here matches what I've heard using the switch pads; but because they're adhesive to the PCB, I can't easily swap between the pads and a fuller sheet of foam. My hypothesis is... no difference.

@unkkit151 2 жыл бұрын

I looked to see a wink or something but it was more subtle than that ☺️

@beesong2450 2 жыл бұрын

As usual you never disappoint andddd another kb I cannot afford

@kurtdecastro8197 2 жыл бұрын

how do you only have 60k subs deserves a million tbh

@xpinoyxgoodness 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you good sir for putting so much science behind our keyboards. Much appreciated

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciate your support and view!

@DualMinersRC 2 жыл бұрын

This review sold this board on me for sure. The differences in foam's are unbelievable!

@saltsnow7776 2 жыл бұрын

glad i found you dope video sick board.

@AnzelLmao 2 жыл бұрын

Seriously, you got me out here contemplating studying physics just so I can understand keyboard acoustics better LOL

@fuzzynine 2 жыл бұрын

Once again an awesome scientific explanation. In layman's terms. Thank you so much.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome! Thank you for watching and the comments!

@Akeynote 2 жыл бұрын

wow! PE foam creates a V shape sound signature, no wonder it sounds "fun". The audio guys know what I mean 😜. Great video as always Scott!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@huckwalton2307 Жыл бұрын

Makes you smile… get it?

@TechGuy42ilm 2 жыл бұрын

I'm getting this board I love my gmmk pro and I have a zoom 65 on the way but this looks to be that premium board that I've been wanting.

@lauhernsean6179 2 жыл бұрын

That polished brass weight i stunning!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

It looks and feels like a gold bar

@SAMMZ1g 2 жыл бұрын

had to buy this.. so good looking.

@raphaelstanzani 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for the science!! I liked the EVA sound.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad the science is helpful!

@samuelcortez3401 2 жыл бұрын

That scientific article was super helpful. Thanks!

@hello_2221 2 жыл бұрын

wow that thing looks beautiful

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

I love how this thing looks! That gold bling!

@viktor1893 2 жыл бұрын

The sound is crazy in any configuration

@dickwarlock5635 2 жыл бұрын

You make good stuff

@BombShot 2 жыл бұрын

I love eva foam, so easy to wrok with, you can do so much with it, I'd reccomend trying to do eva foam "gummy mounts"

@kristapsliepnieks9949 Жыл бұрын

I'm somewhat into both keyboard and audio hobbies. Funny how a lot of people (myself included) tend naturally prefer the V shaped tuning. In both hobbies.

@pyrobunny_mdpl 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see you compare both PE and EVA to poron under switches :)

@ImOnMy116 2 жыл бұрын

This looks really cool!! Reminds me a lot of the Bubble 75 GB you convinced me to join :) (should be coming in a few months!!) Glad to see more premium 75% options! 75% > 65% for me! Thanks for the video Scott!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

You know? This really is reminiscent of the bubble. The bubble is a nice sounding and feeling board also, and I do have it in my regular rotation!

@chendusingh 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored This board is actually run by Velocifire, same guys who ran the Bubble75. They seem to create random studios for each and every one of their boards. Love the videos!

@ImOnMy116 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored That’s great to know that even someone who has a lot of choice has it in their rotation! I’ve mostly used the more budget end boards (a couple bakanekos and Tofu60), really excited to try a more premium gasket mount!

@mohammadalhusseini4781 2 жыл бұрын

Looks beautiful and sounds like an epoch

@azylee 2 жыл бұрын

Finally, actual science and not guessing games. Love it!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@PooPooKakaPeePee 2 жыл бұрын

That looks amazing! Better if its in my hands

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Haha it's so heavy in the hands

@smiliigdead 2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to the content about building your own custom keyboard from scatch by PCBway I want to see sci-boi Mark-1 keyboard 🤣🤣🤣

@nosaj03 2 жыл бұрын

great vid! this sounds just like my mammoth 75 so I may have to pass on this one unless i want a different colorway. The Mode Sonnet looks promising as well

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Sonnet does look promising!

@Pabula 2 жыл бұрын

Such a beautiful board, only thing that has me thinking is weather i order it like yours or white top / black bottom with silver brass.... decision.

@uncarriable 2 жыл бұрын

Another banger video! Was always wondering how the eva foam affected a board.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

It does a pretty good job!

@Shroompled 2 жыл бұрын

Instead of "look at all those chickens"... Look at all those flex cuts xD. Great video and solid build as usual!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks!

@tony_301 2 жыл бұрын

It looks so sleek. But tbh, it also shines so well with the glacier

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

They're like partners now

@ireakhavok 2 жыл бұрын

That civic reference tho. Type R owner here ;)

@TooMuchThock 2 жыл бұрын

now i know what keyboard im gonna buy next

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Get the brass one!

@prathamsarkar1586 2 жыл бұрын

you should do a foam comparison video just build the same keeb with a bunch of diff foams

@abdomination 2 жыл бұрын

I definitely like the S better than the X as well after taking a look. 5 more days for this GB and I don't think I'll be able to make it. I'm missing the AV4 as well. Just had too many expenses and bills to take care of and my deposits are all late. Hahah. Even trying to sell my S22 Ultra just to buy keyboards but I don't want to take too much of a loss.

@derekg2132 2 жыл бұрын

Wow perfect sounds I want this board wish it was 65 percent t though and jt is kinda expensive and tired if long as gb

@eljrzy1513 2 жыл бұрын

Philippines represent!!!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

You guys doing some good work out there!

@rottentrash9386 2 жыл бұрын

My brain hearing this guy 💥

@johntee2012 5 ай бұрын

It's so nice.

@WinkleKeebs 2 жыл бұрын

This Hope75 looks llike combining Mammonth 75 and Jelly Epoch. Look nice and sounds thoccky! BTW will you consider live release with chat room?

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

So many great boards coming out these days! I did miss the mammoth but that thing looked pretty nice also. I have been considering the live releases in the future! Should be fun to interact with you guys at release!

@CaviteTechnology 2 жыл бұрын

Philippines Keeb content creator represent!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Yall doing some good things out there!

@gerryramosftw Жыл бұрын

people say the PE foam makes all boards sound the same but I dunno man.. it's still a little bit different to me and i LOVE the PE foam sound

@KEYBOARDMANIAC Жыл бұрын

Wouuuh the sound is amazing where i can bye ?

@d1_un 2 жыл бұрын

Add a gold artisan esc just to top it off! It'll look sooo clean!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a plan!

@rylanchau3645 2 жыл бұрын

You should try reviewing the anubis vs boba switch!

@Green-Man 2 жыл бұрын

You covered in your Keychron Q2 video that you used a paper towel instead of PE foam, and I assume that this absorbs and reflects different frequencies than PE foam. Any thoughts on what kind? I would assume it absorbs less. Love these science segments, please keep them going!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Yup! I'm sure the paper towel is similar in concept as the PE and Eva foams. I haven't done a 1 to 1 comparison but perhaps I can look into it in the future!

@jackiexu8 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing vid! Will you also review sonnet anytime soon? I'm torn between Sonnet and this. I 100% love the look of this board over Sonnet. Do you think Alu plate will bring the sound even louder and less like other PE foam boards?

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't had a chance to review any of the mode boards unfortunately :( but alu plates will create a clackier sound VS pc

@onnorj1569 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for review Scott, top notch quality as always! How you compare typing experience and sound of Hope75 to Buble75?

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Hope sounds more dense than the bubble and it's a whole lot heavier. Without the foam the hope is also much more flexible

@tylermcginnis4625 2 жыл бұрын

Man, that board is GORGEOUS. I feel like they tried a little too hard to design around the thin flex cut PCB and the flex cut PC plate. I wonder if they would have been better off using a thicker PBC and regular plate.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

I think the thin pcb does add an interesting sound, but I do agree, prob didn't need as much flex... It was airing on too much

@Girvo747 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored erring* :)

@martskeebstudio 2 жыл бұрын

Video suggestion: suggested keebs for each price point for a 75%.

@johanb.7869 Жыл бұрын

For that prize I hope it comes preinstalled too😉

@dailydoseofbenadryl5096 11 ай бұрын

there is no way i just found my favorite sounding keyboard on a PE foam mod demonstration

@tenkeyzen1860 2 жыл бұрын

Stunning weight!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

It truly is... It feels like a gold bar in my hand lol

@tenkeyzen1860 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored like wow the weight is just stunning glad to see you reviee this board

@esra_erimez 2 жыл бұрын

You are what I image carykh will be like when he grows up

@Litherly 2 жыл бұрын

dope video! just wondering where you got your all black cable, thanks 👊.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Cable mod!

@evilofalfa 2 жыл бұрын

goddamn i love shinny board

@AlisherMakhmudov 2 жыл бұрын

hello dear Keybored. Can you advice or recommend to buy ready 100% Fully sized keyboard, with some light switches ~45gr force which will cost around ~100$. Currently using Cherry MX-Board 3.0., wanted to buy keyboard with some similar keys... Don't like when keys or keyboard it too tall

@randomz8804 2 жыл бұрын

Can u make a sound test on a same keyboard between the gateron box black ink v2 and jwick black linear switch? Idk what to choose between those 2

@TheBjjninja Жыл бұрын

It's kind of like a hifi speaker analogy. You perhaps want your keyboard to produce a flat response on the full spectrum of frequencies. If you prefer a heavy midrange, go with this type of speaker. Otherwise tune your keyboard to have equal treble, mids, and bass

@siegekeebs 2 жыл бұрын

@8:04 I see screws in the PCB, are those for standoffs for the PCB/Plate?

@Lambrodor 2 жыл бұрын

What would you say is the sound characteristics of kitchen towel? Saw it in your keychron q2 build.

@whoizthedrizzle 2 жыл бұрын

Hey scott, I was just wondering could you make the scientific part dark mode friendly?

@siegekeebs 2 жыл бұрын

I wish you'd actually post a sample of without the case foam! Realistically that's what I would want to run (only the very thin bottom most layer of foam). Using the EVA foam sheet with that might offset the thinness too.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

I recorded it and thought man that's just meh lol

@siegekeebs 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored Right, but we should know what it sounds like, useful information, especially in comparison to the other sound test you showed.

@abdomination 2 жыл бұрын

I really want to get this board. I also plan to get the Av4 so I'm so torn.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Too many choices now!

@TheWinterWind 2 жыл бұрын

yes

@seollenda 2 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna be honest, I had a hard time finding a difference between those PE foam and EVA foam clips!

@rachelcheung2247 2 жыл бұрын

By any chance, can you drop a tutorial video on how to paint a metal keyboard case? TIA!

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm that is something I do not know haha. I might have to ask Betty

@cooljaybz 2 жыл бұрын

great vid once again KD! but but can you get a new wrist rest? :D :D :D peace

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha yeah I've been using the same one all the time. I need something more comfortable

@AndrewMcDreamy 2 жыл бұрын

How do you preserve the PWD brass? More boards have this but I hear they scratch very easily.

@GianPaoloVecchi 3 ай бұрын

I ordered an EVA foam for my keyboard after watching this video, thank you! Now, poron switch pads or not? So confused..

@jonathansmith4737 2 жыл бұрын

She's a real beauty Clark

@moss_effect 2 жыл бұрын

Wow the explanation is super interesting! I wonder if you could record the stock sound of a keyboard, fft it, use the data from that study to do a weighted filter based on frequency, then the sound you fft back would reproduce that 'marble' pop we hear irl.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

That would be an interesting experiment!

@Indra_Ninja 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! How was the coating finish on the board? Is it rough or on the smoother side?

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

It's actually very smooth. Didn't do any scratch testing or anything but it's on the smoother side

@Indra_Ninja 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keybored Thank you!

@spacecluck 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, when I removed pefoam from Owlab's keyboards, I experienced a decrease in sound completeness, and it was easy to understand because there was scientific evidence.

@Keybored 2 жыл бұрын

The PE foams seems to put a "V" equalizer on the boards! It's very interesting!