Does Gareth Southgate to Manchester United actually make sense?

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The Athletic FC

Күн бұрын

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After a historically poor season and with new leadership in charge, many fans might be wondering if Erik ten Hag’s time has come to an end.
If so, one of the interesting names that has emerged in this hypothetical scenario is England’s very own Gareth Southgate.
Famous for turning a toxic England team into a lovable bunch and reaching the Euro 2020 Final, is Southgate the right man for a new era at Manchester United?
#manchesterunited #premierleague #england
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:12 David Ornstein on Southgate
01:05 Why Southgate?
07:27 International vs Domestic Football
08:57 Tactically Concerning?
11:53 Expectations for Manchester United Football Club
15:56 Can Southgate make the jump?
17:43 Should Kobbie Mainoo start in Euro 2024?
22:56 Dan Ashworth
26:04 What about Thomas Frank?
29:01 Does Gareth Southgate make sense?
30:24 One last bit of news from David Ornstein
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@aiqalromzi
@aiqalromzi 29 күн бұрын
i love Southgate mann..his ability to make player like jude and foden seems average is incredibly impressive
@GreenandGold
@GreenandGold 29 күн бұрын
I put it down to the darts 🎯
@Gafgarion852
@Gafgarion852 28 күн бұрын
So you're saying he could beat Real Madrid and City?
@Gooner184
@Gooner184 27 күн бұрын
Saka and Kane manage, maybe they should improve themselves?
@shuraamano
@shuraamano 27 күн бұрын
​@@Gafgarion852I think you miss the banter here mate.
@Gafgarion852
@Gafgarion852 27 күн бұрын
@@shuraamano no, it was also banter.
@sachinshah4594
@sachinshah4594 29 күн бұрын
Considering how Man Utd are in their banter era, it absolutely makes sense. The memes we will get from Antony x Southgate will be legendary!
@Arg.10
@Arg.10 28 күн бұрын
if we wanna continue our banter era southgate is perfect
@nate_wil
@nate_wil 29 күн бұрын
Every fan group aside from United wants this to happen... Which is a pretty good indicator that it's a terrible idea
@lancejohnson8388
@lancejohnson8388 28 күн бұрын
Tbh, either way they go, I won't mind if they hire Southgate or stick with ETH 😂
@juanignaciojimenez1986
@juanignaciojimenez1986 25 күн бұрын
That’s like a handful of Arsenal fans saying they see nothing in ETH and that Ange should leave Spurs foe their lack of desire. Sacking them will clearly set both teams back two years at least, giving Arsenal at least a year to challenge Man City now that Klopp’s gone
@wr2899
@wr2899 21 күн бұрын
@@juanignaciojimenez1986 he is going to get sacked and it won’t set the club back, it’s necessary in order for the club to move forward. He is not the right person for this rebuild for multiple reasons and he won’t accept the much lower amount of control he’d have to accept in order to keep the job.
@wr2899
@wr2899 21 күн бұрын
@@juanignaciojimenez1986 unless you think that playing a 6 man high press coupled with a low block so no midfield, causing United to have the second highest shots conceded in the league after Sheffield United has impressed the new owners? Or the fact that uniteds expected points in the league was only 40, relegation zone numbers if we didn’t get lucky with individual moments against the odds? You can’t blame injuries either because the fact that there have been injuries has been a reason to set the team up differently, more compact rather than watching teams run through us every week. He was criticised at Ajax for this tactic as well. Glad we won the FA cup though, coincidentally one of the only times he’s binned the usual tactic and actually had bodies in midfield.
@wr2899
@wr2899 21 күн бұрын
@@juanignaciojimenez1986 he currently has a veto in transfers, also gets a say in transfer fees, plans the training sessions (injuries) and more. All things that other top clubs leave for the structure not the manager. If he can let this go (which he won’t, he asked for more control at Ajax and asked for this control at United) then he might be offered the job but it’s more than likely Ineos will bring their own person in now like they have done with every other position. We have regressed this season and there’s nothing to say that with ten hag we won’t regress even more next season so it’s more risky to keep him. At least with the new structure if we have to sack a manager we won’t be starting again since the structure training style of play transfers etc will be decided by the club like at most of the other European powerhouses
@Frazzled02
@Frazzled02 29 күн бұрын
So based on my primary metric for football decision-making, "how funny would this be?", this scores pretty high. As such they should totally do it.
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
without Southgate England will never go to the Euro final
@babyrage3861
@babyrage3861 29 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manzwithout Southgate they probably would’ve beaten Italy 😭
@josephkerrigan733
@josephkerrigan733 29 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manz With Southgate they lost a final at 1-0 by making 0 substitutions when we looked worse & worse for 25 minutes. He gets the credit for getting us there along with the blame for sabotaging the final by only making substitutions after we conceded & only bringing Grealish on in extra time.
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 29 күн бұрын
Still baffles me how Southgate is even a candidate. Hasn’t managed a club since 2009 and has never crossed the line into winning a major trophy like we’re aiming for at United. The whole aspect of him brining the England camp together and making them hold hands is cute but Graham Potter is also famous for that. He has a Masters in social science and I’ve heard is quite adept at unifying players. Plus he’s achieved more with Brighton, has progressive tactics and is actually relevant at club level. He’s even younger too. Would much rather Potter over Southgate. Better yet, I’d much rather fold the club than let Southgate be in charge of United.
@ArrigoSacchi87
@ArrigoSacchi87 29 күн бұрын
Did Potter to Chelsea not happen in your timeline?
@MillerFobbs
@MillerFobbs 29 күн бұрын
He's also WOKE, he'd make a fantastic Dr Who.
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 29 күн бұрын
@@ArrigoSacchi87 Guess you don't understand the concept pf either or then do you?
@henrybauze2932
@henrybauze2932 29 күн бұрын
@@ArrigoSacchi87 Honestly not really he managed for like half a season
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 29 күн бұрын
@@henrybauze2932 Compared to someone who hasn’t managed at club level since 2009????
@harrison10011
@harrison10011 29 күн бұрын
What in the hell is the media talking about? We have Ten Hag - a championship winning manager who’s given us a top 4, a Carabao Cup, and two FA Cup finals. And because we’ve had a poor season (due to having more injuries than the rest of the league) we are supposed to sack him and replace him with… Garreth Southgate?
@manniking233
@manniking233 28 күн бұрын
They make more money when Utd stays a banter team. More bad news, more clicks. Ten Hag fighting them and subliminally throwing shade at them is one of the few redeeming qualities Ten Hag still has!
@lisandromartinez.
@lisandromartinez. 24 күн бұрын
They literally mentioned a whole section in the video how he's the media darling lmaoo so I'm not surprised
@jbri1
@jbri1 29 күн бұрын
According to Rooney on The Overlap, HE told Southgate not to pick him anymore, Southgate didn't drop him.
@Crackparty803
@Crackparty803 26 күн бұрын
Of course he'll say that. Gotta save face
@OnlyTheJugg
@OnlyTheJugg 16 күн бұрын
“Nah she ain’t break up with me I just told her we need a bit of time apart”
@davidopsina3871
@davidopsina3871 9 күн бұрын
Was this after Southgate banned pork pies from the England dressing room?
@JackPaul-vs3bq
@JackPaul-vs3bq 29 күн бұрын
As a Chelsea fan, I would love to see Southgate at Manchester United. It makes perfect sense.
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
Southgate counterattack will easily demolish Chelsea defend especially without Silva next season
@hyywe240
@hyywe240 29 күн бұрын
They should hire graham potter, spend 500m, then sack him just as he starts improving the team. Then, spend another 500 million on wingers. They might be able to finish 7th!
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 29 күн бұрын
Of course you would say that 😭
@hodor6159
@hodor6159 29 күн бұрын
*evil laugh*
@Letsgopanthers17
@Letsgopanthers17 29 күн бұрын
Exactly. In the same way I'd love to see Cole Palmer leave Chelsea.
@joeking88
@joeking88 29 күн бұрын
I hate the detoxifying argument for Southgate. I mean we had Ole as a manager who basically did this and then after a year it got even messier as Ole was a pushover and the same thing will happen with Southgate.
@lancesebastian4989
@lancesebastian4989 28 күн бұрын
it is man united lmao. Have some perspective
@cedarstuff
@cedarstuff 28 күн бұрын
It's a nicey-nice middleclass observation, as with most of the Athletic insights.
@Arg.10
@Arg.10 28 күн бұрын
oles a billion times better manager
@neocell710
@neocell710 28 күн бұрын
Ole's Man United >>>> Ten Hag's Man United.
@ironicvirus1496
@ironicvirus1496 26 күн бұрын
Don't think the media will be on Southgate's side when they're parking the bus at home next year against West Ham or Crystal Palace
@voidepiphany
@voidepiphany 29 күн бұрын
Ratcliffe says he wants Man United to play attacking football, why Southgate?
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
because Southgate pragmatism work brilliantly against tactical elite like Guardiola and Arteta
@isaaccc726
@isaaccc726 29 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_ManzBrother stop twerking for southgate under every comment no one wants him at United.
@whoisabdalle8295
@whoisabdalle8295 29 күн бұрын
@@isaaccc726😭😭😭
@-VForValhalla-
@-VForValhalla- 29 күн бұрын
​@@isaaccc726but the rest of the world wants to see him at United. Why would you deny the world their happiness?
@darrell5403
@darrell5403 29 күн бұрын
When did he say that?
@donk6906
@donk6906 29 күн бұрын
whats this agenda of trying to find southgate a job? i wouldnt give him the job of running a sunday league team.
@bricemorin9651
@bricemorin9651 29 күн бұрын
They really want eth sack. As united fan we back him I think giving eth more time is the right thing to do.
@davidopsina3871
@davidopsina3871 9 күн бұрын
REAL United fans want Southgate. He is totally clueless as an EPL manager and would thus perfectly fit the Man Utd playing style.
@andrewb777
@andrewb777 29 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan… yes
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
same arsenal player missed an important penalty for Southgate
@Flash4ML
@Flash4ML 23 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_ManzForgotten about Rashford and Sancho’s contributions in that shootout, how convenient
@loweyyo
@loweyyo 29 күн бұрын
HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE IF HE ENDS UP AT UNITED
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
Southgate will bring hell upon opposition teams his pragmatic approach works well in brute force league like epl
@insertnamehere2479
@insertnamehere2479 29 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manz😂😂😂😂😂if u think it’s bad now under ten hairs I CANT WAIT til you lot get soutgate
@AndresMagnone
@AndresMagnone 29 күн бұрын
Honestly I hope he stays at the national team... cause I really don´t wanna face England unless that dummie is on the bench.
@thomasdavies2555
@thomasdavies2555 29 күн бұрын
Hell would be a world with a good United no?
@john-tr8jy
@john-tr8jy 29 күн бұрын
No it won't. Old Trafford will still be sold out. Folks protested then walked right into Old Trafford to give Glazers even more money.
@jayflavor1
@jayflavor1 29 күн бұрын
Point of correction. Mainoo is 6ft. He recently revealed that in a club interview. He was confused as to why everyone thinks he is 5'9.
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 27 күн бұрын
Point of correction, no way he’s 6ft.
@chrishalsall188
@chrishalsall188 29 күн бұрын
“We wouldn’t know how Southgate would perform in the league?” I mean if only he’d managed at club level in the past so we could see what happens…
@MainAccount-tm2gx
@MainAccount-tm2gx 28 күн бұрын
Whilst I doubt too much, it’s certain he has evolved somewhat from what he was like in 2009, not to mention football evolving as a whole with pep in the prem
@Bleech606
@Bleech606 29 күн бұрын
This would be comedy gold. Please make this happen.
@saber475
@saber475 29 күн бұрын
Mainoo is NOT 5'9 fellas, he literally just came out publicly and strongly to refute this, this very week, poor guy will never beat the short allegations at this rate LOL
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 27 күн бұрын
Player stats on google says 175cm - which is 5’9”
@saber475
@saber475 27 күн бұрын
@@elingrome5853 Well, he himself from his own mouth with his own words on camera last week said he is not 5'9, he said he is 6'0 and it's annoying that everyone thinks he's 5'9 because the stuff on google and EAFC is wrong. I think we should believe Kobbie himself over google tbh.
@johndoe2769
@johndoe2769 25 күн бұрын
The day I learned google can be wrong changed my view on everything. They can be bought and Influenced like anything else. Always question things and use critical thinking ​@@elingrome5853
@JFriisN
@JFriisN 29 күн бұрын
How is this video 30 minutes long? 😭
@chifumujmanda7643
@chifumujmanda7643 29 күн бұрын
Reskinned tifo football podcast
@omarsilva5244
@omarsilva5244 28 күн бұрын
Tifo really went down after Alex left. Now after rebrand it’s just click bait nonsense
@ironicvirus1496
@ironicvirus1496 26 күн бұрын
Just needs to be a KZfaq short. Southgate is the right man for the job
@user-zc2sz1os3j
@user-zc2sz1os3j 29 күн бұрын
You do know the answer, Mr. Divine. Everyone does. Southgate wouldn't get the Burnley job let alone the United one.
@AmazinJ89
@AmazinJ89 29 күн бұрын
Didnt rooney just say on 'The Overlap' that he went to Gareth first to discuss not being picked because he wasnt playing at united ?
@olith
@olith 29 күн бұрын
Yeah he did.
@davidgriffith1552
@davidgriffith1552 29 күн бұрын
Doesn’t fit the narrative, that… what narrative? That Southgate is somehow a good international manager that has England playing like killers. He’s not and they aren’t (we’ll see what happens this summer)…
@dondamon4669
@dondamon4669 29 күн бұрын
​@@davidgriffith1552done better than anyone else with worse players! Imagine he had Terry,Rio,Rooney, Scholes,Gerrard, Lampard,Owen,Cole and not Maguire,saka Grealishetc 😂 England players aren't as good as people think and we lost tournament coz players couldn't score a penalty
@erwinb1568
@erwinb1568 29 күн бұрын
This is rubbish. They said it themselves that international football is so different than club football, which Southagate is not proven. With all the culture reset topic, again they said it themselves that Dan Ashworth was there before Southgate. So the key is not Southgate, but it's Dan Asworth.
@LordBathtub
@LordBathtub 29 күн бұрын
He'd be a joke of an appointment. How that man makes Saka, Foden, Rice, Bellingham look bang average is criminal. England have one of, if not the, best squad in international football but you'd never know it under Southgate. I'm Scottish and EVEN I'M fed up of Southgate 😂
@manniking233
@manniking233 28 күн бұрын
Welsh and Scottish fans want to shoot him because they would kill to have the national team England have. Seeing Southgate handle that much talent and ruin it is funny at first if you hate England but, over time, you're like, "Okay, seriously, get it together, mate. It's not funny anymore". Few months later, you start daydreaming about very terrible, frightening ways of fixing the problem for them! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@celtic69
@celtic69 27 күн бұрын
@@manniking233i just start imagining the team Ireland would have if half their players chose to represent us instead
@alanboots1106
@alanboots1106 25 күн бұрын
Are you sure? 😂😂😂
@gemthemage
@gemthemage 29 күн бұрын
As a Liverpool fan I can not see a better manager to drag man United back to winning ways. South gate is the second coming of sir Alex pep Mourinho and jurgen all in 1 person
@FifaFanatic555
@FifaFanatic555 29 күн бұрын
I am also torn as a Liverpool fan though. As jealous as I am about it, I do see Erik Ten Hag as a cross between Cruyff and Ancelotti
@davidopsina3871
@davidopsina3871 9 күн бұрын
Amen. He is better than Busby so MUST be made manager
@keigo7793
@keigo7793 29 күн бұрын
Ruthless Southgate retired Rooney??? Rooney asked Southgate not to play him! Southgate simply cant manage United. He will fail, spectacularly.
@cedarstuff
@cedarstuff 28 күн бұрын
"A couple of very boring teams have won a couple of tournaments" is such an amazing insight. "Toxicity" is only an issue when you aren't winning. If Ten Haag was getting results, it would all be rosy. The "graphic" is probably the most "I made a powerpoint slide for work" I have ever seen.
@jacksquat7850
@jacksquat7850 29 күн бұрын
I would love to see united get buried deeper and what this england team can do with a real manager, so sounds great
@CottageTactico
@CottageTactico 28 күн бұрын
3:30 JJB: Southgate was made permanent, or he was made the permanent manager I should say, because he was real before then JD: he was permanent already JJB: he was already there JD: well in a sense we are all temporary JJB: in a way, that’s true actually No other double act in football coverage can do what these guys do when they’re together 😂
@MancAlB
@MancAlB 29 күн бұрын
This is the most diabolical, stupid and media generated take I have ever seen on Manchester United. No one wants this, and everyone can see it’s a terrible idea. Personally I can only stand watching Southgate Terror-Ball once ever couple of years.
@Wrioncnkiye
@Wrioncnkiye 29 күн бұрын
I actually think Southgate to Man City makes sense! Pep's team has dropped off this season, which suggests that a cultural reboot is required!! Or, Chelsea should employ Southgate, who is very good with a young team. And Mainoo should not be selected for the England team. Yes, I am a non-English United fan lol...
@liamclarke5275
@liamclarke5275 29 күн бұрын
Are people still pretending this media made bollocks is a thing? What a waste of your time.
@mugen4537
@mugen4537 29 күн бұрын
I like it when either Jon or JJ drops the pen, funny surprise faces all around 😂
@scottlinton6577
@scottlinton6577 29 күн бұрын
Rooney said in the interview with Andy Cole on the Overlap like 3 days ago that he withdrew himself from the England side because he saw all these younger player who needed a shot at international football. Southgate did not make the decision to drop him!
@dondamon4669
@dondamon4669 29 күн бұрын
He did drop him and then Rooney retired
@Alfredsson14
@Alfredsson14 29 күн бұрын
I think 100% of all other teams fans wants Sourhgate join Ineos forever 🎉 but also Ten Hag would be enough to keep Manchester United down. By the way...a good work, mates. Gareth will surely appreciate your efforts!
@MrAndinho1
@MrAndinho1 29 күн бұрын
Southgate is an outstanding manager. He did brilliantly to relegate Boro, and hopefully, he does the same with Man Utd.
@Hass1um
@Hass1um 29 күн бұрын
I love how 7:11 joe looks so proud of JJ
@JonathanMallett
@JonathanMallett 28 күн бұрын
According to Rooney he told Southgate to not pick him because he wasn't a starter at utd. It didn't make sense that he would captain England while unable to break into the starting 11 at club level. It wasn't a ruthless/authoritative decision by Southgate 😂
@kazikader
@kazikader 27 күн бұрын
Southgate works better in International tournaments. He’s a kinetic manager, similar to Ole. He lacks in actual tactics. He succeeds going further in tournaments where all the teams haven’t had years of playing and training together week in week out. Whenever he comes up against proper tactics and better coached team, he crumbles. He wouldn’t get as far in a long season across multiple comps over 60+ games.
@djcasey16
@djcasey16 28 күн бұрын
This is my favourite series on youtube right now
@mariobalotelli7533
@mariobalotelli7533 29 күн бұрын
if the Glazer want united to play Bristol City, Hull City and Portsmouth in 2025 then getting Southgate will be a great idea
@nevinknowles9073
@nevinknowles9073 28 күн бұрын
I like how they are basically saying international football is terrible and all managers do is sit deep and wait until pens. Terrible product to watch. If you are trying to convince non football fans to watch the sport don’t let them watch international games
@optiondezzo1513
@optiondezzo1513 29 күн бұрын
its a good way to get man utd relegated if that is what the glazers want.
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
stop downplayed Southgate achievement with England euro final ? wc semi ?
@dominicsouthan4492
@dominicsouthan4492 29 күн бұрын
​@@1607Adi_ManzAnd absolutely bottled both games from poor in game management, only ever won against teams we should of. Check he's record against the top ten national it's something like 16%
@cyn1clcynide
@cyn1clcynide 29 күн бұрын
​@@1607Adi_Manz easy run to knockouts and losing to the first competent team they play
@D3athW1ng
@D3athW1ng 28 күн бұрын
Damn JJ ... Say my name with that shirt 😂
@moej93
@moej93 29 күн бұрын
😂 I really do think they know how awful he is but pretending he is some world class manager
@zemineminem
@zemineminem 29 күн бұрын
this is a classic clickbait video that I had gotten used to not getting at TIFO. do better guys
@edpoole1942
@edpoole1942 26 күн бұрын
For Villa to go from Championship to Champions league we spent a shed load of cash, had a lot of luck (a disallowed goal, the covid break etc) and three managers to address different problems at different times. 1. Bruce to steady the ship and sort out the culture. 2. Smith to get us promoted and stay up (just) 3. Emery to get us playing to a higher level Southgate could be Man Utd's Bruce.
@mfundonkosi6927
@mfundonkosi6927 28 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan I approve of Southgate to Yanited.
@ParisienArsenalFan
@ParisienArsenalFan 29 күн бұрын
This is ridiculous, how can any credible news reporter like the athletic even post this lol
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
because it's already confirmed also Southgate's pragmatism approach suit with united playstyle
@mustafahassan9756
@mustafahassan9756 29 күн бұрын
Why are you lying? Or are you sir Jim?
@hyywe240
@hyywe240 29 күн бұрын
It's really hard to english fans to acknowledge that he's a good manager isn't it
@ParisienArsenalFan
@ParisienArsenalFan 29 күн бұрын
@@hyywe240 perhaps because he is not?
@mustafahassan9756
@mustafahassan9756 29 күн бұрын
​@@hyywe240 I think united fans are against changing managers every 2yrs. Not necessarily against Southgate
@bigboibenedict7256
@bigboibenedict7256 29 күн бұрын
Rooney has said on The Overlap that he told Southgate not to call him up because he didn't think he was good enough anymore, so I don't think you can call it a brave decision from Southgate..
@spacetime3
@spacetime3 29 күн бұрын
The Answer is No... we don't do waist coats and sparkling water in manchester, just no.
@neocell710
@neocell710 28 күн бұрын
And yet you lot are comfortable with the annual 4- 0 loss???? Grow up mate.
@moi.a
@moi.a 29 күн бұрын
Mainoo is six foot. There's literally a video of him saying so. Come on people.
@jackgruber7811
@jackgruber7811 23 күн бұрын
Great video as always, but I just wanna clear up that Real Madrid are on track for 97 points (which is crazy), so I don’t think they’re doing well because Barcelona dropped off. An amazing league performance this year
@ONEMADKILLERx
@ONEMADKILLERx 29 күн бұрын
I can save everyone 30 minutes, by saying no.
@Rustylad12
@Rustylad12 29 күн бұрын
The clue is in his name as to where United would end up
@vapour9000
@vapour9000 29 күн бұрын
There's no way the fans would allow that to happen. INEOS would lose all their credibility and support if they hired Southgate as manager
@manniking233
@manniking233 28 күн бұрын
INEOS own the club and don't care about the fans. Ratcliffe had a season ticket for Chelsea. The Rat will drag us straight to hell and won't even blink. He doesn't love the club and he has the power to ruin us and all we can do is watch!
@mufcmike7
@mufcmike7 29 күн бұрын
Why was he never mentioned for Liverpool?
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
because Liverpool already have Arne Slot
@chimeziegreat9818
@chimeziegreat9818 29 күн бұрын
I mean before they signed Slot​@@1607Adi_Manz
@Letsgopanthers17
@Letsgopanthers17 29 күн бұрын
​@@1607Adi_Manzbefore that, obviously.
@rexcolt9742
@rexcolt9742 29 күн бұрын
*Answer to the question:* NO. Gareth Southgate does NOT makes sense at the MUFC. They should bring Tuchel and let him work. Or Luis Enrique if he truly leaves PSG, then just sign him for years and open the wallet; and watch the trophies come.
@Kspat2
@Kspat2 29 күн бұрын
Why so Tuchel can be there for 3 years and fall out with everyone including the janitors?
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
Southgate pragmatism will work better with current and upcoming United players don't forget he also bring England to the Euro final and the WC semi
@Sandford14
@Sandford14 29 күн бұрын
Ah yes tuchel fresh from failing to make a team play that's much better than United or Luis Enrique who played a 424 away to Newcastle in champions league tactical genius lol
@arjanmakaj-singh5318
@arjanmakaj-singh5318 29 күн бұрын
My problem with Tuchel is that he seems to be a Cup coach. He never does well in leagues, idk why. Even with good teams .
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
​@@arjanmakaj-singh5318start first with a cup then focus on league
@JustAVideoGame
@JustAVideoGame 29 күн бұрын
mainoo is not 175cm, he said himself hes 6ft
@utternonsenseproductions2415
@utternonsenseproductions2415 29 күн бұрын
Yes he is much younger than 175
@mujeebahmed7940
@mujeebahmed7940 29 күн бұрын
I wish it happens just for the banter 😂
@mmmihir
@mmmihir 29 күн бұрын
Mainoo is not small. He’s 6 foot tall. Look at any picture of him with Maguire. He confirmed it himself a couple days ago as well
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 27 күн бұрын
Google says 5’9” ?
@mmmihir
@mmmihir 27 күн бұрын
@@elingrome5853 yeah it's an outdated measurement
@DaveAsafu
@DaveAsafu 29 күн бұрын
There are pretty much only two things United fans are on: 1. No to the Glazers 2. No to Southgate
@HerrCron
@HerrCron 26 күн бұрын
The list of managers having Jose Mourinho on it? *chef's kiss*
@ilikeboringthings9
@ilikeboringthings9 29 күн бұрын
Do you not think Southgate will play Alexander-Arnold in midfield?
@just_kez
@just_kez 29 күн бұрын
I can guarantee you, no one feels more attached to England cos of Southgate. Those who care now, cared before 😂😂
@connc
@connc 29 күн бұрын
No
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
explain
@connc
@connc 29 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manz No
@whoisabdalle8295
@whoisabdalle8295 29 күн бұрын
@@conncgreat explanation 👍
@lukew6725
@lukew6725 29 күн бұрын
Yes. Then maybe England will actually win something.
@stevenesbitt3528
@stevenesbitt3528 29 күн бұрын
For the sheer comedy value😂
@justdavelewis
@justdavelewis 29 күн бұрын
Mainoo isn’t actually 5’9 though, if you look at him next to other players who we know are fairly tall, he’s not that much shorter than them He’s grown a fair bit in the last couple of years, I think that metric is outdated
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 27 күн бұрын
That’s not what transfermark etc say… can’t blame peeps for going on the data provided… I’ve seen pics where he doesn’t look much bigger than garnacho 🤷‍♂️
@stnbch3025
@stnbch3025 29 күн бұрын
Southgate managing a club with no future at the top makes perfect sense.
@anxiousmindmusic
@anxiousmindmusic 29 күн бұрын
Them having Rashford, Maguire and Shaw and Southgate being able to get a tune out of them has to be a factor in this but I can't see it personally
@drechsla
@drechsla 29 күн бұрын
I hope he goes to Man U. Him leaving the English team and finally giving all those talented players a chance at international success would be a blessing, he clearly has not been up to the task. This may sound negative, I genuinely like Southgate, I just think he’s proved inept at bringing success for the national team so let someone else have a go.
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 27 күн бұрын
This is a comment section that reaffirm s my faith in humanity 😇😇
@uchihasufi
@uchihasufi 29 күн бұрын
However much i like the panel, none of the arguments hold any merit. The england job requires managing a handpicked squad not limited by tactics. This means Southgate can actually choose to play whatever type of tactical football he pleases. He chooses the most drab, mind numbing kind. Secondly, in a tournament like a WC, teams have very little time to adapt to your style of play. They are short as well which help push you over the line even if yo arent playing well. In the league on the other hand, if you just look a totenham who were exciting at the start of the season only to probably end up finishing below Chelsea. Southgate would be lucky to keep united out of relegation let alone finish in the top half of the table. Lastly, all the arguments made in favour of the structural changes are never spoken of actually benefiting EtH who has had to deal with player issues almost every week. He has shown more tactical knowledge than Southgate can ever dream of having.
@Spuzzell
@Spuzzell 29 күн бұрын
No. Saved you half an hour, you're welcome ten Hag is going nowhere, United can't afford to sack him and replace him and he's doing the job the club needs done of cutting out deadwood and bringing youth through.
@DrengrByHeart
@DrengrByHeart 29 күн бұрын
I would put Cole in the number 10 role as a second striker (with mainoo as his backup), belligham in advanced 8, and rice defensive 8
@wumingkelvin9832
@wumingkelvin9832 29 күн бұрын
does it make sense that they say they want everything best in class to end up hiring southgate as manager?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Paddythefriendlykiwi
@Paddythefriendlykiwi 29 күн бұрын
No. No and NO. It won't happen. Give it a rest.
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 29 күн бұрын
explain why ? he brought england to the euro final and the wc semi
@Arg.10
@Arg.10 28 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manz he hasnt managed a club since 2008 n got dat team relegated
@Paddythefriendlykiwi
@Paddythefriendlykiwi 27 күн бұрын
​@1607Adi_Manz and bottled it with a team that should have won it. His performance against the top 10 international teams is pretty woeful, despite having a stronger team.
@atulrcks
@atulrcks 27 күн бұрын
Can we get an analysis report of why Bayer Leverkusen always seem to score in the stoppage time ? They scored in 16/17 matches out of 50
@bangkokdave
@bangkokdave 28 күн бұрын
Did JJ say apropos of Man United? TIFO so intellectual these days! Great to see you all together. Hopefully it's not as temporary as Joe believes all things in life are.
@DavidLimofLimReport
@DavidLimofLimReport 29 күн бұрын
Sorry but Gaz was an average club coach at best. Got Boro relegated. He's found his niche at international level. Gary O Neil is a much better choice
@daviskhassim9173
@daviskhassim9173 27 күн бұрын
Do a video explaining what does it take to win the premiere League in this City era, both Liverpool and Arsenal couldn't do it despite having outstanding seasons
@aaronpwalls
@aaronpwalls 29 күн бұрын
for an Argentinian left back, Alex knows a lot about England and their tactics. impressive
@Fernadogcv
@Fernadogcv 13 күн бұрын
Imagine if this was done in some sort of podcast format?
@TheKrostiman
@TheKrostiman 29 күн бұрын
There are so many easy games in international football. Southgate will not get so many easy games at a club.
@enjeeneriousbasterds1795
@enjeeneriousbasterds1795 29 күн бұрын
videos where good when it was TIFO IRL not Athletic FC these podcast videos
@Topav05
@Topav05 29 күн бұрын
15:40, right Jon, because Pep Guardiola was going to win titles with Napoli and Everton And mind you, the point you were making was challenging for the title, he did that at every club he's been at besides those two
@THEFIFABEAST20
@THEFIFABEAST20 20 күн бұрын
can you do a video on why teams are going for younger managers?
@abdaf8706
@abdaf8706 21 күн бұрын
I've just forget, that this was Tifo IRL channel 😂
@ahadhossain3941
@ahadhossain3941 29 күн бұрын
United should totally do it. Can't wait to see Neville and co deciding playing 11 in sky studios
@RizZy28
@RizZy28 29 күн бұрын
If you want to turn Utd into the most boring risk averse team in the prem then Southgate would be ideal.
@seyong01my
@seyong01my 29 күн бұрын
Liverpool was looking for manager too, why dont guys recommend Southgate for that job? Or to westham? Blxxdy hell, stop this already
@homebrewgraphics2384
@homebrewgraphics2384 29 күн бұрын
Rooney openly talks about how he had to convince GS to stop selecting him. Better Research Expected from Tifo bois
@fatsparr0w525
@fatsparr0w525 29 күн бұрын
That will be the funniest thing ever tbh lol
@bobysonlaishram4055
@bobysonlaishram4055 20 күн бұрын
Make a video on the final!!!
@changingways28
@changingways28 29 күн бұрын
Real Madrid have the majority of the ball in most games they play. Man United play 28 games a season against non "Big 6" teams. Being able to consistently beat the "others" is how the key to winning any league.
@Arielle1309
@Arielle1309 25 күн бұрын
WHY OH WHY, is this question still being debated? I don't want Southgate anywhere near my club. He should think about his wellbeing and his mental health, and just say NO.. Like you should always say to drugs. NO...
@Brazil520
@Brazil520 29 күн бұрын
Why did that ginger kid say Mainoo was 5'9 lol hes 6ft?
@vaughansealey5656
@vaughansealey5656 28 күн бұрын
Why not Trent as the 3rd midfielder? Have him drift wider in late build up and have sake drift in?
@avikarsewpersad9856
@avikarsewpersad9856 29 күн бұрын
He's a perfect fit for Manchester United. Will take them in the right direction, towards relegation....
@Iron-Bridge
@Iron-Bridge 29 күн бұрын
It does make sense. He's got a semifinal and quarterfinal appearance for England at World Cup level and a silver medal at the Euros. He'd be a great fit for Manchester United. I'm not a Manchester United fan. However, that's my unbiased opinion. 😁
@manniking233
@manniking233 28 күн бұрын
Hopefully, you get to try to run at full speed on a treadmill soon...
@DrengrByHeart
@DrengrByHeart 29 күн бұрын
Southgate is decent and way better than his predecessors, but he is not a World cup winning manager. And neither is he going to when he would go to United. You guys have a world-class squad. Only the equivalent world class manager is missing.
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