Does Gareth Southgate to Manchester United actually make sense?

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The Athletic FC

Күн бұрын

Welcome to The Athletic FC's KZfaq channel, where best-in-class journalism meets video.
After a historically poor season and with new leadership in charge, many fans might be wondering if Erik ten Hag’s time has come to an end.
If so, one of the interesting names that has emerged in this hypothetical scenario is England’s very own Gareth Southgate.
Famous for turning a toxic England team into a lovable bunch and reaching the Euro 2020 Final, is Southgate the right man for a new era at Manchester United?
#manchesterunited #premierleague #england
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:12 David Ornstein on Southgate
01:05 Why Southgate?
07:27 International vs Domestic Football
08:57 Tactically Concerning?
11:53 Expectations for Manchester United Football Club
15:56 Can Southgate make the jump?
17:43 Should Kobbie Mainoo start in Euro 2024?
22:56 Dan Ashworth
26:04 What about Thomas Frank?
29:01 Does Gareth Southgate make sense?
30:24 One last bit of news from David Ornstein
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@aiqalromzi
@aiqalromzi 14 күн бұрын
i love Southgate mann..his ability to make player like jude and foden seems average is incredibly impressive
@GreenandGold
@GreenandGold 14 күн бұрын
I put it down to the darts 🎯
@Gafgarion852
@Gafgarion852 14 күн бұрын
So you're saying he could beat Real Madrid and City?
@Gooner184
@Gooner184 13 күн бұрын
Saka and Kane manage, maybe they should improve themselves?
@shuraamano
@shuraamano 12 күн бұрын
​@@Gafgarion852I think you miss the banter here mate.
@Gafgarion852
@Gafgarion852 12 күн бұрын
@@shuraamano no, it was also banter.
@Frazzled02
@Frazzled02 14 күн бұрын
So based on my primary metric for football decision-making, "how funny would this be?", this scores pretty high. As such they should totally do it.
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
without Southgate England will never go to the Euro final
@babyrage3861
@babyrage3861 14 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manzwithout Southgate they probably would’ve beaten Italy 😭
@josephkerrigan733
@josephkerrigan733 14 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manz With Southgate they lost a final at 1-0 by making 0 substitutions when we looked worse & worse for 25 minutes. He gets the credit for getting us there along with the blame for sabotaging the final by only making substitutions after we conceded & only bringing Grealish on in extra time.
@nate_wil
@nate_wil 14 күн бұрын
Every fan group aside from United wants this to happen... Which is a pretty good indicator that it's a terrible idea
@lancejohnson8388
@lancejohnson8388 13 күн бұрын
Tbh, either way they go, I won't mind if they hire Southgate or stick with ETH 😂
@juanignaciojimenez1986
@juanignaciojimenez1986 10 күн бұрын
That’s like a handful of Arsenal fans saying they see nothing in ETH and that Ange should leave Spurs foe their lack of desire. Sacking them will clearly set both teams back two years at least, giving Arsenal at least a year to challenge Man City now that Klopp’s gone
@wr2899
@wr2899 6 күн бұрын
@@juanignaciojimenez1986 he is going to get sacked and it won’t set the club back, it’s necessary in order for the club to move forward. He is not the right person for this rebuild for multiple reasons and he won’t accept the much lower amount of control he’d have to accept in order to keep the job.
@wr2899
@wr2899 6 күн бұрын
@@juanignaciojimenez1986 unless you think that playing a 6 man high press coupled with a low block so no midfield, causing United to have the second highest shots conceded in the league after Sheffield United has impressed the new owners? Or the fact that uniteds expected points in the league was only 40, relegation zone numbers if we didn’t get lucky with individual moments against the odds? You can’t blame injuries either because the fact that there have been injuries has been a reason to set the team up differently, more compact rather than watching teams run through us every week. He was criticised at Ajax for this tactic as well. Glad we won the FA cup though, coincidentally one of the only times he’s binned the usual tactic and actually had bodies in midfield.
@wr2899
@wr2899 6 күн бұрын
@@juanignaciojimenez1986 he currently has a veto in transfers, also gets a say in transfer fees, plans the training sessions (injuries) and more. All things that other top clubs leave for the structure not the manager. If he can let this go (which he won’t, he asked for more control at Ajax and asked for this control at United) then he might be offered the job but it’s more than likely Ineos will bring their own person in now like they have done with every other position. We have regressed this season and there’s nothing to say that with ten hag we won’t regress even more next season so it’s more risky to keep him. At least with the new structure if we have to sack a manager we won’t be starting again since the structure training style of play transfers etc will be decided by the club like at most of the other European powerhouses
@sachinshah4594
@sachinshah4594 14 күн бұрын
Considering how Man Utd are in their banter era, it absolutely makes sense. The memes we will get from Antony x Southgate will be legendary!
@Arg.10
@Arg.10 13 күн бұрын
if we wanna continue our banter era southgate is perfect
@harrison10011
@harrison10011 14 күн бұрын
What in the hell is the media talking about? We have Ten Hag - a championship winning manager who’s given us a top 4, a Carabao Cup, and two FA Cup finals. And because we’ve had a poor season (due to having more injuries than the rest of the league) we are supposed to sack him and replace him with… Garreth Southgate?
@manniking233
@manniking233 13 күн бұрын
They make more money when Utd stays a banter team. More bad news, more clicks. Ten Hag fighting them and subliminally throwing shade at them is one of the few redeeming qualities Ten Hag still has!
@lisandromartinez.
@lisandromartinez. 9 күн бұрын
They literally mentioned a whole section in the video how he's the media darling lmaoo so I'm not surprised
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 14 күн бұрын
Still baffles me how Southgate is even a candidate. Hasn’t managed a club since 2009 and has never crossed the line into winning a major trophy like we’re aiming for at United. The whole aspect of him brining the England camp together and making them hold hands is cute but Graham Potter is also famous for that. He has a Masters in social science and I’ve heard is quite adept at unifying players. Plus he’s achieved more with Brighton, has progressive tactics and is actually relevant at club level. He’s even younger too. Would much rather Potter over Southgate. Better yet, I’d much rather fold the club than let Southgate be in charge of United.
@ArrigoSacchi87
@ArrigoSacchi87 14 күн бұрын
Did Potter to Chelsea not happen in your timeline?
@MillerFobbs
@MillerFobbs 14 күн бұрын
He's also WOKE, he'd make a fantastic Dr Who.
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 14 күн бұрын
@@ArrigoSacchi87 Guess you don't understand the concept pf either or then do you?
@henrybauze2932
@henrybauze2932 14 күн бұрын
@@ArrigoSacchi87 Honestly not really he managed for like half a season
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 14 күн бұрын
@@henrybauze2932 Compared to someone who hasn’t managed at club level since 2009????
@jbri1
@jbri1 14 күн бұрын
According to Rooney on The Overlap, HE told Southgate not to pick him anymore, Southgate didn't drop him.
@Crackparty803
@Crackparty803 11 күн бұрын
Of course he'll say that. Gotta save face
@OnlyTheJugg
@OnlyTheJugg Күн бұрын
“Nah she ain’t break up with me I just told her we need a bit of time apart”
@joeking88
@joeking88 14 күн бұрын
I hate the detoxifying argument for Southgate. I mean we had Ole as a manager who basically did this and then after a year it got even messier as Ole was a pushover and the same thing will happen with Southgate.
@lancesebastian4989
@lancesebastian4989 13 күн бұрын
it is man united lmao. Have some perspective
@cedarstuff
@cedarstuff 13 күн бұрын
It's a nicey-nice middleclass observation, as with most of the Athletic insights.
@Arg.10
@Arg.10 13 күн бұрын
oles a billion times better manager
@neocell710
@neocell710 13 күн бұрын
Ole's Man United >>>> Ten Hag's Man United.
@ironicvirus1496
@ironicvirus1496 11 күн бұрын
Don't think the media will be on Southgate's side when they're parking the bus at home next year against West Ham or Crystal Palace
@bricemorin9651
@bricemorin9651 14 күн бұрын
They really want eth sack. As united fan we back him I think giving eth more time is the right thing to do.
@voidepiphany
@voidepiphany 14 күн бұрын
Ratcliffe says he wants Man United to play attacking football, why Southgate?
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
because Southgate pragmatism work brilliantly against tactical elite like Guardiola and Arteta
@isaaccc726
@isaaccc726 14 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_ManzBrother stop twerking for southgate under every comment no one wants him at United.
@whoisabdalle8295
@whoisabdalle8295 14 күн бұрын
@@isaaccc726😭😭😭
@-VForValhalla-
@-VForValhalla- 14 күн бұрын
​@@isaaccc726but the rest of the world wants to see him at United. Why would you deny the world their happiness?
@darrell5403
@darrell5403 14 күн бұрын
When did he say that?
@LordBathtub
@LordBathtub 14 күн бұрын
He'd be a joke of an appointment. How that man makes Saka, Foden, Rice, Bellingham look bang average is criminal. England have one of, if not the, best squad in international football but you'd never know it under Southgate. I'm Scottish and EVEN I'M fed up of Southgate 😂
@manniking233
@manniking233 13 күн бұрын
Welsh and Scottish fans want to shoot him because they would kill to have the national team England have. Seeing Southgate handle that much talent and ruin it is funny at first if you hate England but, over time, you're like, "Okay, seriously, get it together, mate. It's not funny anymore". Few months later, you start daydreaming about very terrible, frightening ways of fixing the problem for them! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@celtic69
@celtic69 12 күн бұрын
@@manniking233i just start imagining the team Ireland would have if half their players chose to represent us instead
@alanboots1106
@alanboots1106 10 күн бұрын
Are you sure? 😂😂😂
@JackPaul-vs3bq
@JackPaul-vs3bq 14 күн бұрын
As a Chelsea fan, I would love to see Southgate at Manchester United. It makes perfect sense.
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
Southgate counterattack will easily demolish Chelsea defend especially without Silva next season
@hyywe240
@hyywe240 14 күн бұрын
They should hire graham potter, spend 500m, then sack him just as he starts improving the team. Then, spend another 500 million on wingers. They might be able to finish 7th!
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 14 күн бұрын
Of course you would say that 😭
@hodor6159
@hodor6159 14 күн бұрын
*evil laugh*
@danielatkins1980
@danielatkins1980 14 күн бұрын
Exactly. In the same way I'd love to see Cole Palmer leave Chelsea.
@andrewb777
@andrewb777 14 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan… yes
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
same arsenal player missed an important penalty for Southgate
@Flash4ML
@Flash4ML 8 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_ManzForgotten about Rashford and Sancho’s contributions in that shootout, how convenient
@donk6906
@donk6906 14 күн бұрын
whats this agenda of trying to find southgate a job? i wouldnt give him the job of running a sunday league team.
@loweyyo
@loweyyo 14 күн бұрын
HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE IF HE ENDS UP AT UNITED
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
Southgate will bring hell upon opposition teams his pragmatic approach works well in brute force league like epl
@insertnamehere2479
@insertnamehere2479 14 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manz😂😂😂😂😂if u think it’s bad now under ten hairs I CANT WAIT til you lot get soutgate
@AndresMagnone
@AndresMagnone 14 күн бұрын
Honestly I hope he stays at the national team... cause I really don´t wanna face England unless that dummie is on the bench.
@thomasdavies2555
@thomasdavies2555 14 күн бұрын
Hell would be a world with a good United no?
@john-tr8jy
@john-tr8jy 14 күн бұрын
No it won't. Old Trafford will still be sold out. Folks protested then walked right into Old Trafford to give Glazers even more money.
@JFriisN
@JFriisN 14 күн бұрын
How is this video 30 minutes long? 😭
@chifumujmanda7643
@chifumujmanda7643 14 күн бұрын
Reskinned tifo football podcast
@omarsilva5244
@omarsilva5244 14 күн бұрын
Tifo really went down after Alex left. Now after rebrand it’s just click bait nonsense
@ironicvirus1496
@ironicvirus1496 11 күн бұрын
Just needs to be a KZfaq short. Southgate is the right man for the job
@erwinb1568
@erwinb1568 14 күн бұрын
This is rubbish. They said it themselves that international football is so different than club football, which Southagate is not proven. With all the culture reset topic, again they said it themselves that Dan Ashworth was there before Southgate. So the key is not Southgate, but it's Dan Asworth.
@jayflavor1
@jayflavor1 14 күн бұрын
Point of correction. Mainoo is 6ft. He recently revealed that in a club interview. He was confused as to why everyone thinks he is 5'9.
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 12 күн бұрын
Point of correction, no way he’s 6ft.
@AmazinJ89
@AmazinJ89 14 күн бұрын
Didnt rooney just say on 'The Overlap' that he went to Gareth first to discuss not being picked because he wasnt playing at united ?
@olith
@olith 14 күн бұрын
Yeah he did.
@davidgriffith1552
@davidgriffith1552 14 күн бұрын
Doesn’t fit the narrative, that… what narrative? That Southgate is somehow a good international manager that has England playing like killers. He’s not and they aren’t (we’ll see what happens this summer)…
@dondamon4669
@dondamon4669 14 күн бұрын
​@@davidgriffith1552done better than anyone else with worse players! Imagine he had Terry,Rio,Rooney, Scholes,Gerrard, Lampard,Owen,Cole and not Maguire,saka Grealishetc 😂 England players aren't as good as people think and we lost tournament coz players couldn't score a penalty
@gemthemage
@gemthemage 14 күн бұрын
As a Liverpool fan I can not see a better manager to drag man United back to winning ways. South gate is the second coming of sir Alex pep Mourinho and jurgen all in 1 person
@FifaFanatic555
@FifaFanatic555 14 күн бұрын
I am also torn as a Liverpool fan though. As jealous as I am about it, I do see Erik Ten Hag as a cross between Cruyff and Ancelotti
@chrishalsall188
@chrishalsall188 14 күн бұрын
“We wouldn’t know how Southgate would perform in the league?” I mean if only he’d managed at club level in the past so we could see what happens…
@MainAccount-tm2gx
@MainAccount-tm2gx 13 күн бұрын
Whilst I doubt too much, it’s certain he has evolved somewhat from what he was like in 2009, not to mention football evolving as a whole with pep in the prem
@MancAlB
@MancAlB 14 күн бұрын
This is the most diabolical, stupid and media generated take I have ever seen on Manchester United. No one wants this, and everyone can see it’s a terrible idea. Personally I can only stand watching Southgate Terror-Ball once ever couple of years.
@liamclarke5275
@liamclarke5275 14 күн бұрын
Are people still pretending this media made bollocks is a thing? What a waste of your time.
@saber475
@saber475 14 күн бұрын
Mainoo is NOT 5'9 fellas, he literally just came out publicly and strongly to refute this, this very week, poor guy will never beat the short allegations at this rate LOL
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 12 күн бұрын
Player stats on google says 175cm - which is 5’9”
@saber475
@saber475 12 күн бұрын
@@elingrome5853 Well, he himself from his own mouth with his own words on camera last week said he is not 5'9, he said he is 6'0 and it's annoying that everyone thinks he's 5'9 because the stuff on google and EAFC is wrong. I think we should believe Kobbie himself over google tbh.
@johndoe2769
@johndoe2769 10 күн бұрын
The day I learned google can be wrong changed my view on everything. They can be bought and Influenced like anything else. Always question things and use critical thinking ​@@elingrome5853
@CottageTactico
@CottageTactico 14 күн бұрын
3:30 JJB: Southgate was made permanent, or he was made the permanent manager I should say, because he was real before then JD: he was permanent already JJB: he was already there JD: well in a sense we are all temporary JJB: in a way, that’s true actually No other double act in football coverage can do what these guys do when they’re together 😂
@keigo7793
@keigo7793 14 күн бұрын
Ruthless Southgate retired Rooney??? Rooney asked Southgate not to play him! Southgate simply cant manage United. He will fail, spectacularly.
@user-zc2sz1os3j
@user-zc2sz1os3j 14 күн бұрын
You do know the answer, Mr. Divine. Everyone does. Southgate wouldn't get the Burnley job let alone the United one.
@Bleech606
@Bleech606 14 күн бұрын
This would be comedy gold. Please make this happen.
@Wrioncnkiye
@Wrioncnkiye 14 күн бұрын
I actually think Southgate to Man City makes sense! Pep's team has dropped off this season, which suggests that a cultural reboot is required!! Or, Chelsea should employ Southgate, who is very good with a young team. And Mainoo should not be selected for the England team. Yes, I am a non-English United fan lol...
@jacksquat7850
@jacksquat7850 14 күн бұрын
I would love to see united get buried deeper and what this england team can do with a real manager, so sounds great
@cedarstuff
@cedarstuff 13 күн бұрын
"A couple of very boring teams have won a couple of tournaments" is such an amazing insight. "Toxicity" is only an issue when you aren't winning. If Ten Haag was getting results, it would all be rosy. The "graphic" is probably the most "I made a powerpoint slide for work" I have ever seen.
@scottlinton6577
@scottlinton6577 14 күн бұрын
Rooney said in the interview with Andy Cole on the Overlap like 3 days ago that he withdrew himself from the England side because he saw all these younger player who needed a shot at international football. Southgate did not make the decision to drop him!
@dondamon4669
@dondamon4669 14 күн бұрын
He did drop him and then Rooney retired
@MrAndinho1
@MrAndinho1 14 күн бұрын
Southgate is an outstanding manager. He did brilliantly to relegate Boro, and hopefully, he does the same with Man Utd.
@ParisienArsenalFan
@ParisienArsenalFan 14 күн бұрын
This is ridiculous, how can any credible news reporter like the athletic even post this lol
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
because it's already confirmed also Southgate's pragmatism approach suit with united playstyle
@mustafahassan9756
@mustafahassan9756 14 күн бұрын
Why are you lying? Or are you sir Jim?
@hyywe240
@hyywe240 14 күн бұрын
It's really hard to english fans to acknowledge that he's a good manager isn't it
@ParisienArsenalFan
@ParisienArsenalFan 14 күн бұрын
@@hyywe240 perhaps because he is not?
@mustafahassan9756
@mustafahassan9756 14 күн бұрын
​@@hyywe240 I think united fans are against changing managers every 2yrs. Not necessarily against Southgate
@zemineminem
@zemineminem 14 күн бұрын
this is a classic clickbait video that I had gotten used to not getting at TIFO. do better guys
@optiondezzo1513
@optiondezzo1513 14 күн бұрын
its a good way to get man utd relegated if that is what the glazers want.
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
stop downplayed Southgate achievement with England euro final ? wc semi ?
@dominicsouthan4492
@dominicsouthan4492 14 күн бұрын
​@@1607Adi_ManzAnd absolutely bottled both games from poor in game management, only ever won against teams we should of. Check he's record against the top ten national it's something like 16%
@cyn1clcynide
@cyn1clcynide 14 күн бұрын
​@@1607Adi_Manz easy run to knockouts and losing to the first competent team they play
@Spuzzell
@Spuzzell 14 күн бұрын
No. Saved you half an hour, you're welcome ten Hag is going nowhere, United can't afford to sack him and replace him and he's doing the job the club needs done of cutting out deadwood and bringing youth through.
@just_kez
@just_kez 14 күн бұрын
I can guarantee you, no one feels more attached to England cos of Southgate. Those who care now, cared before 😂😂
@DaveAsafu
@DaveAsafu 14 күн бұрын
There are pretty much only two things United fans are on: 1. No to the Glazers 2. No to Southgate
@Alfredsson14
@Alfredsson14 14 күн бұрын
I think 100% of all other teams fans wants Sourhgate join Ineos forever 🎉 but also Ten Hag would be enough to keep Manchester United down. By the way...a good work, mates. Gareth will surely appreciate your efforts!
@spacetime3
@spacetime3 14 күн бұрын
The Answer is No... we don't do waist coats and sparkling water in manchester, just no.
@neocell710
@neocell710 13 күн бұрын
And yet you lot are comfortable with the annual 4- 0 loss???? Grow up mate.
@mariobalotelli7533
@mariobalotelli7533 14 күн бұрын
if the Glazer want united to play Bristol City, Hull City and Portsmouth in 2025 then getting Southgate will be a great idea
@mugen4537
@mugen4537 14 күн бұрын
I like it when either Jon or JJ drops the pen, funny surprise faces all around 😂
@uchihasufi
@uchihasufi 14 күн бұрын
However much i like the panel, none of the arguments hold any merit. The england job requires managing a handpicked squad not limited by tactics. This means Southgate can actually choose to play whatever type of tactical football he pleases. He chooses the most drab, mind numbing kind. Secondly, in a tournament like a WC, teams have very little time to adapt to your style of play. They are short as well which help push you over the line even if yo arent playing well. In the league on the other hand, if you just look a totenham who were exciting at the start of the season only to probably end up finishing below Chelsea. Southgate would be lucky to keep united out of relegation let alone finish in the top half of the table. Lastly, all the arguments made in favour of the structural changes are never spoken of actually benefiting EtH who has had to deal with player issues almost every week. He has shown more tactical knowledge than Southgate can ever dream of having.
@rexcolt9742
@rexcolt9742 14 күн бұрын
*Answer to the question:* NO. Gareth Southgate does NOT makes sense at the MUFC. They should bring Tuchel and let him work. Or Luis Enrique if he truly leaves PSG, then just sign him for years and open the wallet; and watch the trophies come.
@Kspat2
@Kspat2 14 күн бұрын
Why so Tuchel can be there for 3 years and fall out with everyone including the janitors?
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
Southgate pragmatism will work better with current and upcoming United players don't forget he also bring England to the Euro final and the WC semi
@Sandford14
@Sandford14 14 күн бұрын
Ah yes tuchel fresh from failing to make a team play that's much better than United or Luis Enrique who played a 424 away to Newcastle in champions league tactical genius lol
@arjanmakaj-singh5318
@arjanmakaj-singh5318 14 күн бұрын
My problem with Tuchel is that he seems to be a Cup coach. He never does well in leagues, idk why. Even with good teams .
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
​@@arjanmakaj-singh5318start first with a cup then focus on league
@moej93
@moej93 14 күн бұрын
😂 I really do think they know how awful he is but pretending he is some world class manager
@nevinknowles9073
@nevinknowles9073 13 күн бұрын
I like how they are basically saying international football is terrible and all managers do is sit deep and wait until pens. Terrible product to watch. If you are trying to convince non football fans to watch the sport don’t let them watch international games
@mufcmike7
@mufcmike7 14 күн бұрын
Why was he never mentioned for Liverpool?
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
because Liverpool already have Arne Slot
@chimeziegreat9818
@chimeziegreat9818 14 күн бұрын
I mean before they signed Slot​@@1607Adi_Manz
@danielatkins1980
@danielatkins1980 14 күн бұрын
​@@1607Adi_Manzbefore that, obviously.
@connc
@connc 14 күн бұрын
No
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
explain
@connc
@connc 14 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manz No
@whoisabdalle8295
@whoisabdalle8295 14 күн бұрын
@@conncgreat explanation 👍
@lukew6725
@lukew6725 14 күн бұрын
Yes. Then maybe England will actually win something.
@Paddythefriendlykiwi
@Paddythefriendlykiwi 14 күн бұрын
No. No and NO. It won't happen. Give it a rest.
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 14 күн бұрын
explain why ? he brought england to the euro final and the wc semi
@Arg.10
@Arg.10 13 күн бұрын
@@1607Adi_Manz he hasnt managed a club since 2008 n got dat team relegated
@Paddythefriendlykiwi
@Paddythefriendlykiwi 12 күн бұрын
​@1607Adi_Manz and bottled it with a team that should have won it. His performance against the top 10 international teams is pretty woeful, despite having a stronger team.
@TheKrostiman
@TheKrostiman 14 күн бұрын
There are so many easy games in international football. Southgate will not get so many easy games at a club.
@ONEMADKILLERx
@ONEMADKILLERx 14 күн бұрын
I can save everyone 30 minutes, by saying no.
@shaneknox5950
@shaneknox5950 11 күн бұрын
If United sign southgate I’ll stop watching the prem
@D3athW1ng
@D3athW1ng 14 күн бұрын
Damn JJ ... Say my name with that shirt 😂
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 12 күн бұрын
This is a comment section that reaffirm s my faith in humanity 😇😇
@DavidLimofLimReport
@DavidLimofLimReport 14 күн бұрын
Sorry but Gaz was an average club coach at best. Got Boro relegated. He's found his niche at international level. Gary O Neil is a much better choice
@moi.a
@moi.a 14 күн бұрын
Mainoo is six foot. There's literally a video of him saying so. Come on people.
@enjeeneriousbasterds1795
@enjeeneriousbasterds1795 14 күн бұрын
videos where good when it was TIFO IRL not Athletic FC these podcast videos
@vapour9000
@vapour9000 14 күн бұрын
There's no way the fans would allow that to happen. INEOS would lose all their credibility and support if they hired Southgate as manager
@manniking233
@manniking233 13 күн бұрын
INEOS own the club and don't care about the fans. Ratcliffe had a season ticket for Chelsea. The Rat will drag us straight to hell and won't even blink. He doesn't love the club and he has the power to ruin us and all we can do is watch!
@sssf55
@sssf55 11 күн бұрын
The Athletic has been on the decline, but man this has to be a new low for them.
@SaitamaLover
@SaitamaLover 14 күн бұрын
Southgate is decent and way better than his predecessors, but he is not a World cup winning manager. And neither is he going to when he would go to United. You guys have a world-class squad. Only the equivalent world class manager is missing.
@avikarsewpersad9856
@avikarsewpersad9856 14 күн бұрын
He's a perfect fit for Manchester United. Will take them in the right direction, towards relegation....
@Hass1um
@Hass1um 14 күн бұрын
I love how 7:11 joe looks so proud of JJ
@mfundonkosi6927
@mfundonkosi6927 13 күн бұрын
As an Arsenal fan I approve of Southgate to Yanited.
@edpoole1942
@edpoole1942 11 күн бұрын
For Villa to go from Championship to Champions league we spent a shed load of cash, had a lot of luck (a disallowed goal, the covid break etc) and three managers to address different problems at different times. 1. Bruce to steady the ship and sort out the culture. 2. Smith to get us promoted and stay up (just) 3. Emery to get us playing to a higher level Southgate could be Man Utd's Bruce.
@Rustylad12
@Rustylad12 14 күн бұрын
The clue is in his name as to where United would end up
@stnbch3025
@stnbch3025 14 күн бұрын
Southgate managing a club with no future at the top makes perfect sense.
@sausagetitz3743
@sausagetitz3743 14 күн бұрын
Waste of 30 minutes. Used to be a decent outlet, turning into legacy media. Gashletic
@mourningireland4560
@mourningireland4560 14 күн бұрын
If the Athletic thinks I'm about to listen to 30 minutes of a gentleman suffering from Downe's Syndrome talk about football topics, they are sorely mistaken.
@Nigelblau
@Nigelblau 14 күн бұрын
No. Stop linking him to Man U please.
@kazikader
@kazikader 12 күн бұрын
Southgate works better in International tournaments. He’s a kinetic manager, similar to Ole. He lacks in actual tactics. He succeeds going further in tournaments where all the teams haven’t had years of playing and training together week in week out. Whenever he comes up against proper tactics and better coached team, he crumbles. He wouldn’t get as far in a long season across multiple comps over 60+ games.
@JustAVideoGame
@JustAVideoGame 14 күн бұрын
mainoo is not 175cm, he said himself hes 6ft
@utternonsenseproductions2415
@utternonsenseproductions2415 14 күн бұрын
Yes he is much younger than 175
@NoOne-ks8tu
@NoOne-ks8tu 14 күн бұрын
NO IT DOES NOT. PERIOD. FULL STOP. PUNTO. Genuinely, if he joins Man United I will stop supporting this club. I've handled too much pain in the last 10 years and from that relegation season...
@manniking233
@manniking233 13 күн бұрын
Same here. If The Rat does this, he can keep the club. I won't be party to total nonsense and bunkum like this.
@JonathanMallett
@JonathanMallett 13 күн бұрын
According to Rooney he told Southgate to not pick him because he wasn't a starter at utd. It didn't make sense that he would captain England while unable to break into the starting 11 at club level. It wasn't a ruthless/authoritative decision by Southgate 😂
@isaiahgere9283
@isaiahgere9283 14 күн бұрын
Why does this agenda always have to been against man utd? Please pick another club
@homebrewgraphics2384
@homebrewgraphics2384 14 күн бұрын
Rooney openly talks about how he had to convince GS to stop selecting him. Better Research Expected from Tifo bois
@marwanabdelshafy6726
@marwanabdelshafy6726 14 күн бұрын
Real Madrid have put in a historic season and can potentially end the league on 99 points for Jon MacKenzie to say "they've largely won because of Barcelona have dropped off". Statistically the best defense in Real Madrid's history if I'm not mistaken. Does Jon really think they've managed to get that insane number of points and lose one game all season by just being good in transition? Madrid have dominated 90% of the league games and have deserved each and every win they got, but a bunch of guys on youtube will think they win games by playing with a low block and praying they don't concede just cause they did it against man city. 60% average possession in laliga btw.
@joepkamminga807
@joepkamminga807 9 күн бұрын
Sorry but what?! The examples you give are things ten hag did?!!!! He sacked ronaldo... he made all players have dinner together?! And be social?! He did the 13 mile run with them... taking you seriously is impossible this way. He opened training grounds!!!
@changingways28
@changingways28 14 күн бұрын
Real Madrid have the majority of the ball in most games they play. Man United play 28 games a season against non "Big 6" teams. Being able to consistently beat the "others" is how the key to winning any league.
@srikarreddyd28
@srikarreddyd28 5 күн бұрын
Let me tell you why pep won everywhere 1. At barca - goat players 2. Bayern - do we need to talk 3. City - 115 charges
@ohhibob1006
@ohhibob1006 13 күн бұрын
It’s not at all the focus of the video but that comment downplaying real madrids success is really silly. They aren’t winning just because Barca have fallen off, Real Madrid are on 93 points with two games remaining, they are on course to get one of the highest points totals in the leagues history, you would have to go back to the 17/18 season to find a team that can match their current points total, and again that’s with TWO GAMES REMAINING. Their defense has been by far the best in the league while still having the best attack in the league. Dismissing the best counterattacking team in the world’s success by saying Barca sucked so it doesn’t count is just insane.
@gustoaudio8711
@gustoaudio8711 14 күн бұрын
All cliched jokes aside, IF he wins the Euros his reputation will be transformed.
@MillerFobbs
@MillerFobbs 14 күн бұрын
Very funny.
@drechsla
@drechsla 14 күн бұрын
He won’t win the Euros, semi finalists maybe. Which with this English squad is the reason why Southgate is objectively not a good manager
@ironicvirus1496
@ironicvirus1496 11 күн бұрын
Even if he does, doesn't change the fact in club football without mega money and an amazing squad, gis tactics would get exposed and he'd take most sides down or get sacked
@mmmihir
@mmmihir 14 күн бұрын
Mainoo is not small. He’s 6 foot tall. Look at any picture of him with Maguire. He confirmed it himself a couple days ago as well
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 12 күн бұрын
Google says 5’9” ?
@mmmihir
@mmmihir 12 күн бұрын
@@elingrome5853 yeah it's an outdated measurement
@Arielle1309
@Arielle1309 10 күн бұрын
WHY OH WHY, is this question still being debated? I don't want Southgate anywhere near my club. He should think about his wellbeing and his mental health, and just say NO.. Like you should always say to drugs. NO...
@mujeebahmed7940
@mujeebahmed7940 14 күн бұрын
I wish it happens just for the banter 😂
@ilikeboringthings9
@ilikeboringthings9 14 күн бұрын
Do you not think Southgate will play Alexander-Arnold in midfield?
@YeneTubeMedia-ts9cv
@YeneTubeMedia-ts9cv 14 күн бұрын
Lol No need to analyze, it doesn't make any sense. WHy would INEOS bring a rookie league manager.
@bigboibenedict7256
@bigboibenedict7256 14 күн бұрын
Rooney has said on The Overlap that he told Southgate not to call him up because he didn't think he was good enough anymore, so I don't think you can call it a brave decision from Southgate..
@viperskyboy
@viperskyboy 9 күн бұрын
The Athletic ruined Tifo Football
@seyong01my
@seyong01my 14 күн бұрын
Liverpool was looking for manager too, why dont guys recommend Southgate for that job? Or to westham? Blxxdy hell, stop this already
@Brazil520
@Brazil520 14 күн бұрын
Why did that ginger kid say Mainoo was 5'9 lol hes 6ft?
@davidlean1060
@davidlean1060 14 күн бұрын
With all my heart, no! I'd rather Ten Hag stay than have Southgate. PS, the end of the vid left me laughing. Is poor David still waiting to come on the podcast?! You divils you!
@Bghjssjald233
@Bghjssjald233 14 күн бұрын
Southgate has inherited an absolutely incredible bunch of talent and won absolutely nothing. Being consistently out managed by others like Mancini
@RizZy28
@RizZy28 14 күн бұрын
If you want to turn Utd into the most boring risk averse team in the prem then Southgate would be ideal.
@atulrcks
@atulrcks 12 күн бұрын
Can we get an analysis report of why Bayer Leverkusen always seem to score in the stoppage time ? They scored in 16/17 matches out of 50
@justdavelewis
@justdavelewis 14 күн бұрын
Mainoo isn’t actually 5’9 though, if you look at him next to other players who we know are fairly tall, he’s not that much shorter than them He’s grown a fair bit in the last couple of years, I think that metric is outdated
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 12 күн бұрын
That’s not what transfermark etc say… can’t blame peeps for going on the data provided… I’ve seen pics where he doesn’t look much bigger than garnacho 🤷‍♂️
@user-ji2xi7ub6v
@user-ji2xi7ub6v 2 күн бұрын
Mikel Arteta (who has never won the Premier League) is the “gold standard” on how to win the Premier League? 🤔
@jackgruber7811
@jackgruber7811 8 күн бұрын
Great video as always, but I just wanna clear up that Real Madrid are on track for 97 points (which is crazy), so I don’t think they’re doing well because Barcelona dropped off. An amazing league performance this year
@somdutta7322
@somdutta7322 14 күн бұрын
It is laughable to think that Mainoo will start after one OK season. He is no Jude Bellingham, and even if his on ball potential is high, off the ball he is not ready.
@Purplenbrown
@Purplenbrown 13 күн бұрын
very unpleasent to get your ears blasted off by someone bumping his hand into microphone multiple times. You should have done something about that.
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