"If everyone is cheating then it's fair" - Lewis "nervous laugh"

Holyfield was definitely on juice. He went from Cruiserweight to Jacked Heavyweight in like a year

Holyfield was absolutely on steroids. The guys back muscles came up over his head

8 time mr olympia lee haney trained holyfield to give him more muscle mass and gain weight, holyfield was on steroids and peds

It's great that Lennox Lewis is just generally honest. So great.

LMAO!!! Joe Rogan thinks nobody is juiced. It’s all genetics. Guy gains 50 lbs of muscle, while training as a pro fighter... it’s genetics

Shannon Briggs lol. He's still juiced till today

Our juiced guy was better than your juiced guy

The infamous 100m sprint of the Seoul 1988 Olympics everyone was taking performance enhancing drugs. Carl Lewis: Ben was just the one who got caught

Steroids or not ill ankle pick them all

I was always a fan of this man. He seems like a class act.

lewis was a great champion. underated when fighting but looking back look at who he fought. everyone. and got up to beat those who beat him. always respectable towards others and since retirement has been a good ambassador.

Lennox is such a cool dude. Its crazy to think how chilled he is, but he would turn into a monster

It's nice to see that Lennox is not punch drunk like Evander, Tyson and James Toney.

“Everybody uses steroids” - Nate Diaz

So much respect for him, so humble ☺️

Steroid abuse usually shows up in hypertrophy of the masseter muscle in the jaw (strongest muscle in the body), and in acne located on the torso (chest and back). An example of this in a boxer would, allegedly, be Andrew Golota--he had all the signs, including the behavioral component, "roid rage." Lewis destroyed Golota in their fight.

Lennox loved watching you fight man! Class act.

‘You know what’s better than bully beef’ steroids! Lmao 😂😂😂

Two of Brampton's finest gentlemen. I can personally attest to how warm and kind these two guys are in real life. Mr. Lewis and Mr. Peters are great guys.

Lennox "You Can't Condition that Chin" Cejudo

My man Lennox talking natural food. Respect to you brother

You can take as much steroids as you want but you won't get the amazing headbutting technique of Evander.

Good guy Lennox Lewis. I'm a fan after this video.

Joe "allow me to use this time to defend and condone steroids" Rogan

It’s still weird looking at Russell Peters talking about boxing instead of making race jokes 😅 although he’s actually quite knowledgeable

Really big traps are a telltale sign of a juicer - the trapezius muscle has the highest concentration of androgen receptors so they give a much bigger response to steroid use than any other muscle. Not saying big traps always = juice, but it's a fair rule of thumb.

Ortiz is 100 years old

Evander still a beast , seen recent pics and interviews , dude looked like he could fight tomorrow.

Can’t accuse Larry of steroids. Holmes had the best jab! He just knew how to fight!

Doesn't give you a better chin but they do increase endurance, speed, recovery time, strength and every other advantage you can think of.

One of Evanders people said the main thing different he did was alot of stretching to keep flexible along with his added muscle

I've never had a plantain, maybe that's what's getting in the way of my boxing career? It's either that or my never having tried boxing

It's pretty cool of Joe to invite his friends on the show when he knows the main guest is one of his friend's idols. Joe prob called up Russell and was like, "guess who's coming on the pod!"

Hey Joe, biochemical fact, it doesn't help you recover as much as you think. It does reduce intramuscular inflammation which "sort of" enhances recovery, but it also causes intermediate damage that can actually shorten your career. There are nano-tech supplements that are based an intracellular nutrition that will in fact, not only dramatically reduce that inflammation, but also increase ATP production and improve protein synthesis, etc that actually are better than steroids in performance and recovery. To boot, they're actually legal because its just nutrition.

When a man that’s the size and as powerful as Lennox hits anyone on anything they’re going to know about it.

Greatest heavyweight of the post Ali era.

the most underrated boxer imo, honestly could be considered the goat, 2 defeats only and avenged them, much like gsp

You know what's better than that? On the floor laughing!

EPO was already being used in pro (and amateur) cycling in the early 1990's.

I cant say I was ever a fan of Lennox Lewis for some reason, but what a well spoken intelligent dude.

"is it still cheating if everybody is doing it" We enjoy watching people push the boundaries of being human and that's part of what makes sport great and entertaining and using ped's makes them machines then it becomes unrealistic and not entertaining anymore

HAHAH the way Joe says Tour de France all the while pronouncing Lance in an American way is funny dude

Lewis and Tyson had such a great build up

Man come on, “they didn’t have the good steroids stuff in the 90’s” bro ask Mark McGwire Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds that...

Lennox is 100 percent correct about the chin aspect and steroids

When they were talking about sprinters I was hoping they would bring up Ben Johnson. Lennox was competing in the '88 Seoul Olympics as well.

badass podcast!

I can't figure if Russell Peters is a fanboy or a historian. Either Way, I'm very impressed with his knowledge of boxing history.

Well considering an "Evan Holyfield" appeared on an indicted doctors list of patients he was selling things like anabolics too. And this "Evan Holyfield" happened to have the same civic Address as Evander Holyfield. I think it's a pretty safe assumption Mr Holyfield was juiced, regardless of what first name he was posing as at the time.

Lewis is a class act and he was a great fighter. Atypical for a boxer. Fighters should watch this and if they're going to emulate a great fighter? Emulate Lenox Lewis.

When Evander first fought Moorer that's when his build drastically changed and it was obvious he was on peds. It killed his stamina and speed tho, it was never the same. Watch Holys fights pre Moorer, like the first 2 Bowe fights, the Foreman and Dokes fights, there's a huge difference in his build and his speed and punch output.

SUSPECT?! Lol, how about guaranteed without a doubt. Let's see, it was the 90s. His opponents included: Holyfield, Morrison, and Tyson. All were juiced to the gills! Golota, Gotha and Briggs were close runner ups! Lewis himself was 98% deep on the sauce, too.

They should just do steroid olympics it would be way better to watch.

YOO BIG RUSSEL P NEEDS A PODCAST

My favorite era of boxing

Lee Haney the pro bodybuilder spoke about how easily Holyfield bulked with muscle with his help

Love how Rogan just shots Lewis down when Lewis is going on about Jamaican Plantains. He could have said spare me but he was diplomatic and said you know what’s better then that…Steroids.

So glad to find out Russell knows boxing!

Joe what do you think about the Billy Collins Jr VS Luis resto fight?

"Were any of them on steroids? What about DMT?"

Lennox issa Real One ☝️

You can improve your neck, to decrease your punishment to the head. I believe it's the snap of the neck which rattles the brain, the punch does damage but the snap back of the head does way more damage.

"A knitted sweatah... A KNITTED SWEATAH"

Steroids use is the reason I don't consider Evander Holyfield a top tier heavyweight. Some boxing people said Evander started using steroids back in 1988.

Lennox is right Jamaican food Rocks!

I love that he said the names😂

3:00 EPO wasn't around I think '91 Lance Armstrong (cycling) started

Prime Lennox Lewis with Manny Steward in his corner could defeat any Heavyweight of any era

Long time since I heard someone say bully beef.

Lennox, show us the tapes of you and mike sparring! That would be awesome!

You cant build muscles on your face Trt belfort : hold my beer

side note: l'm blindly convinced Bolt was into something too new for the regulators to know. His records and that chart is simply impossible

evander lol i still remember watching his fights when i was young and was like how tf do you get your shoulders the size of basketballs?

Lennox so cool , true champion. Respect from Greece

Alright kids. You heard it here. Joe Rogan says use steroids!! 😂

Lennox is a cool guy

There are more andorhen receptors in the traps and shoulders than anywhere else So a big sign of steroids use is disproportionate size in the traps. Holyfield definitely has the phsyical signs of steroid abuse

Track n field is just totally unbelievable

0:40 describes Anthony Joshua vs Ruiz 1 where in the corner AJ was talking about he doesn't feel fight.

I couldn't stand Lewis when he boxed Tyson! I'm glad I watched this! Good dude

I love russel peters for talking the truth about evander. Everyone else sweeps it under the rug

Anybody got a sauce on that 18th place claim Joe made regarding TdF at 04:33 ? I've only managed to read that 20 out of 21 podium finishers from '98 to '05 tested +ve for doping.

It wasn't Mackie Shilstone, it was Lee Haney, Tim Hallmark, and Dr. Fred Hatfield. Mackie worked with Bernard Hopkins and Spinks and some others.

Holyfield . . Golota . . Tua. . . Michael Grant . . Shannon Briggs . . . To name just a few that were on the juice when fighting Lennox Lewis

If Joe thinks holyfeild is possible natural his ignorance is palpable. Though I doubt he believes it, his amount of politicking is absurb.

in a game where they don't test you I highly suspect many used them... I'm thinking in particular of a light heavyweight who became heavyweight champion who actually gained weight and put on more muscle definition later in life after already being in good shape... it just doesn't happen without roids...

Definitely true about Ortiz. Just came from Cuba too late.

He was a great great champion.

Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were both on PEDs. In an interview, Evander mentioned that when, he and Mike trained for the Olympics, Mike could train for much longer than anybody else. This is a forgotten component of PEDs. Increase endurance and increase recovery times. Mike should have kept growing if he was natural as he won the title in his early 20s. Evander was a pumped up cruiserweight. Boxing is a sport were gaining weight and still being very fit is almost impossible. Fitness leads to weight loss but Evander got bigger and fitter which is another sign of PEDs. George Foreman at 40 still had genuine knock out power years after retiring because he was born strong, same as Lennox. These guys don't shrink and take their power intact with them into old age.

00:27 Russell's side eye at Joe... hahaha

This guy is one of the GOATs

If all testing we're removed from professional sports, it wouldn't be the broken records we'd be surprised by. It'd be the lack there of.

Holyfield def used it when he came outta retirement briefly and those Tyson fights is what showed them roids

Spinks vs Foster @ light heavy, who you got?

Lennox Lewis showing respect to former fighters by not badmouthing them and revealing them an their life choices. He took a clean approach, but he’s not hating on them for using roids, he’s like aight, challenge accepted.

Lennox looks in better condition now then when he fought.

Steroids?? Steroids in combat sports???? Steroids dont effect durability??? Lennox lewis acting like he didnt juice himself, its priceless to me.

Fuck I love this Podcast, you can't see this shit anywhere else!

Steroids in boxing is a foregone conclusion. It's a freak show circus.