Does liquid lime for food plots really work? Part 1

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Northwoods Whitetails Food Plot Seed

Жыл бұрын

On todays video we discuss many liquid fertilizer and lime options. Liquid lime is a great tool , if it’s the right product. The Same with liquid fertilizer, if it’s the right product.
Brad Harper from Harper Growing Solutions helps clear up a lot of questions and bad information regarding these products.
As well as answer the ag lime vs pelletized lime question.
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@suzmell1 Жыл бұрын

Can’t tell you how delighted I was too see you had brad doing the podcast with you I’ve been using plot dr products going on 4 years couldn’t be happier with the results so between John and brad far as I’m concerned this is a winning team

@amb221989 Жыл бұрын

Met Brad last year to buy some northwoods seed. Really great guy. I moved to MI from AL last year so I wasn't familiar with the environment really at all and he helped me very quickly with just some tips while going over the best seed for my goals.

@habitatsolutions360llc3 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video John & Brad. You guys hit all the points and answered lots of questions most have when using liquid. I started using Plot Dr products 3 years ago and ive seen great results with the Penecal & folar and will never go back to granular. Plus it takes me much less time to spray than to spread granular lime & fertilizers

@SeeMoreBucks Жыл бұрын

Great informational video guys! Been using Brad's Plot Dr for 3 yrs and never going back to granular.

@Mark-oq5pf Жыл бұрын

I've been using Plot Doctor liquid lime for 2 years and its a game changer! No more hauling a ton of lime at a time in 50lb bags, I'm getting too old for that!

@RushOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Great information John and Brad thanks for the show much appreciated!

@davidschwantes4628 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Can't wait for the next few videos!!

@johnnyballgame7339 Жыл бұрын

Had used pelletized lime for years when needed, and always had lush looking plots. Decided to try the white bottle DG product as a time saver, and the results were pathetic. I came across the Plot Dr. liquid lime product this season, and have ordered some.

@66rmw Жыл бұрын

Great video. I’ve got a 100 gal 3 pt sprayer and a no till drill , so this is right up my alley

@patriot1182 Жыл бұрын

I will try this in the future! Putting down powdered lime is messy! Spraying lime and fertilizer sounds much easier also! Great video!

@KW-jm9ps Жыл бұрын

Excellent informative video.

@JBesq Жыл бұрын

Excited to switch to liquid after I dump all this granular this year

@jasonbroom7147 Жыл бұрын

I can certainly see using liquid applications of various products, including lime and fertilizer, to grow an effective food plot or crop. My concern is when folks begin to rely on that as their annual solution, instead of focusing on the fundamentals of soil health. Studies have shown that synthetic fertilizers actually inhibit the networks of fungi and bacteria in soil that mine and exchange nutrients with diverse plantings. In essence, these communities become "lazy" in mining resources, because of the synthetic applications provided immediately to the root zone or through foliar applications. From a long term perspective, our efforts should be focused on actually creating healthy soil, not doctoring the symptom of a problem. For 1-3 years, while you build up your soil quality, I can see using these types of products, but they aren't a good long-term substitute for actual mineral nutrients or a thriving soil biota.

@anance6514 3 ай бұрын

Nice chalk board.

@legendaryhabitatllc7649 Жыл бұрын

Well done Guys, Great video! I have been using Brad's products for the last 2 years with great success. We have had a lot of fun doing trials and continuing to learn what works, and what doesn't within each food plot blend, and soil type.

@terryquinter8499 Жыл бұрын

Awesome educational video, what size nozzle do u suggest 4 a 25 gal fimco boom sprayer, 3 nozzles

@jasonlyijnen84 9 ай бұрын

try your stuff this year. spray my mix 2 time this year. 1 in july and then in september. with the little to no rain i could see when i spray on my next time. stuff works

@travissmith-wz5nc Жыл бұрын

Awesome information. Should go well with the 6 lbs of chicory I ordered yesterday.

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@5253hoff 11 ай бұрын

Wondering what the NPK ratio is on the liquid fertilizer?

@jeremysilcox9362 Жыл бұрын

I see you have Plot Dr. Dry that has carbon. So I assume that it will also increase the cation carrying capacity. So, would you recommend the dry and the calcium/penecal around the same time? Also, if you foliar fertilize and then allow the previous crop to decay, will the minerals that are from the spray transfer to the soil?

@butt562 Жыл бұрын

My fimco 20 gallon two nozzle sprayer has teejet nozzles from factory with individual screens. After screens are removed will this Plot Dr. run through or too thick? Like you said John, i would consider these as misting nozzles. Thx

@travissmith-wz5nc Жыл бұрын

U can mix it thin. Double triple water rates

@JP_BowHunter Жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this topic. This was very helpful. I have a few questions. How many times should this foliar be applied if you do a summer seed (soil builder and HD screening) and then a fall seeding (sandy blend) also? The last question is how do I find out how much I need of foliar from my soil test? Again, thanks for doing this topic.

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Жыл бұрын

Brad will chime in soon

@bradharper1102 Жыл бұрын

If you send us your soil sample we can go over it and look at what crops your planting in each plot then I can give you recommendations.

@JP_BowHunter Жыл бұрын

@@bradharper1102 where do I email it too?

@jarrydmoyer3055 Жыл бұрын

What is the shelf life for the calcium product? More specifically, I have a small plot 1/3 acre and may only use half a bottle in one season. Also would you suggest this product on RC switchgrass plantings? FYI - My RC just emerged in central Pa! 3 year old cave-in-rock a foot already. Warm spring has it going early! Great stuff John!

@bradharper1102 Жыл бұрын

The products are fine year to year, but we recommend giving them a good shake a couple times through out the winter. Also we don’t want those products to freeze. You can send me your soil sample and we can take a look to see if it would be a good application on your switch or not. Sometimes it’s worth doing an application on switch and sometimes we don’t have to

@robbobcat7286 Жыл бұрын

Excellent Video! Can put these products through a back pack sprayer?

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Жыл бұрын

Yes Just adjust the spray nozzle to open it up more.

@bradharper1102 Жыл бұрын

You can. I’m a backpack we use very low rates but if you can somewhat calibrate your sprayer, we can figure out exactly how much. Most of the time it’s only a few ounces per tank

@Rcol4427 Жыл бұрын

How do you spray Brassicas. I don't like riding over them with my side x side when I spray?

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Жыл бұрын

You can drive on them and the recover in the first 4-5 weeks After that I use a backpack sprayer

@michaelmoore3598 Жыл бұрын

Just wondering. Internet research say limestone is 50percent plus calcium carbonate. Can you connect the dots for me here. If limestone is 50 percent or more calcium carbonate there would be more than 1000lbs per ton. Thank you

@paulsipe8481 10 ай бұрын

I bought all the liquid products from the plot doctor. I have a 24 gallon sprayer four nozzle with a boom for a four wheeler. I'm spraying an acre and not using any herbicides. What size nozzle should I use on the sprayer?

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 10 ай бұрын

As big as you can get Take out the filters

@ericjohnsoncf 10 ай бұрын

I used triple 15 on a 1 acre plot I recently planted. How soon can I use liquid plot start or plot boost? And which one should I use? The start or the boost?

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 10 ай бұрын

Neither Use plot dr. Much better product.

@twoTsquared Жыл бұрын

Can liquid foliar and nitrogen be used on switch grass like the deer screening?

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t the first year. But possibly the second of no weeds are present. But most switch doesn’t need very much help, unless the soil is really bad.

@bradharper1102 Жыл бұрын

Yes it can. We will spray screening early in the season and can also do a foliar application as well as well after it’s up

@Rcol4427 Жыл бұрын

I spoke with the Author of the Missouri Study because I was getting all kinds of misinformation from different people which states 2000 lbs. of AG lime = 200 lbs. of Pellet lime. He agreed that lime is lime and there really is no difference between the both. I see a lot of quote "Experts" who are wrong and preach that pellet lime and AG lime are different. My research after speaking with the lime experts shows that lime is lime and the only difference is the bonding agent that helps spread the Pellet lime. I used Plot Dr. once and am considering using it this year as a boost. I am still spreading 4K lbs. of pellet lime on my 2 1/4 acre food plots. What are your thoughts on this?

@johnkomp4182 Жыл бұрын

that will work great. alot of times guys will spread ag/pel lime and use the liquid to change that quickly until the other lime kicks in and reacts. You can use all liquid if you want, but the way your going to do it will work. Using the liquid as a supplement works great

@davidvankainen6711 Жыл бұрын

I'm going down the road of somewhat diverse cover crops to feed the soil biology before my Fall/Winter Food Plots (essentially more cover crops). ref. Christine Jones about "Quorum Sensing" and the bacteria/fungal network making "unavailable nutrients" available. My concern is that the biology will get lazy if the plants can merely slurp from a straw so to speak vs. having the underground biome work for them based on root exudates from photosynthesis. Any thoughts? I can see many traditional farmers thinking that nature as described is "snake oil"! But have you seen those Redwoods growing out of a crack in the bedrock without someone going there to fertilize every so often? Now regarding the monoculture I plant for screening Switchgrass, etc. just removing nutrients -- you may have my interest there! My screening definitely struggles in my relative sandy soil.

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Жыл бұрын

The sandy soil om needs to be built up if possible.

@davidvankainen6711 Жыл бұрын

@@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 I sacrificed the edge of my prev built up foid plot and frost seeded switch into it. Will be interesting to see if an improvement over past strips planted into 'native' soil. Did get your RC Switch for future prepared sites, an experiment for next year I suppose.

@bradharper1102 Жыл бұрын

This is a great question and we’ll go over this as well on our next video going through each product more in depth.

@tjt1992 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Can I spray my clover/chicory plot with the liquid fertilizer?

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@tjt1992 Жыл бұрын

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@bradharper1102 Жыл бұрын

Yes. You can spray on anything as it won’t burn. Perennials are a great option for liquid as we can really incorporate the calcium and the foliar product. Normally spray spring and fall with a little amount each time

@richstafford1245 Жыл бұрын

@@bradharper1102 would you recommend before or after mowing clover?

@bradharper1102 Жыл бұрын

We can do either or. Depends on weather and your schedual but will touch more on this in next video

@scottyflaker6507 Жыл бұрын

Where do I get penecal? Not on plot Dr website?

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Жыл бұрын

They are working on it . Should be a few weeks

@JackFrostTheDeerHunter Жыл бұрын

Should be noted to not mix this with round up. I believe it will ruin the round up right?

@JBesq Жыл бұрын

Other brands say it can be mixed. I don’t. I roll, spray let die then seed and fertilize/liquid “lime”.

@mehaul33 Жыл бұрын

For the next video can you answer how much a gallon of the liquid nitrogen on Harpers website will cover in acres of possible

@bradharper1102 Жыл бұрын

Yea, absolutely. We were going to go in a little more depth on each product and will touch on the liquid N for sure

@timb2294 Жыл бұрын

The are talking about plot start as the big white jug…right?

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Жыл бұрын

Can’t mention names lol….. Lawyers may get involved 🤷🏼‍♂️

@alanevans1921 9 ай бұрын

Is there any Hard Data that you can show us? Your product is a 1-something-something @ 10.4lbs/gal and it comes out to 1.6oz N/Gal. Even with some fert. getting tied up in cationic exchange, you will lose some liquid due to evaporation (especially when in a drought) and volatility. How can that liquid compete with even straight Urea on getting #’s of N to the plant at a remotely reasonable cost? I can understand if it is strictly used as foliar feed after you put 95-99% of the needed N in the ground, but I just saw a video where your company said they broadcast sprayed Corn 1 time at planting with this product and acted like that is all that was needed. *if my math was right, it would cost over 70k to put that product out at 100 units of nitrogen per acre* Hope I am wrong, but I can not believe it until I see actual unbiased research on comparative input costs per acre and yields/acre. It could be the difference in your soils vs mine, but I doubt it is that much of a difference. Sorry.

@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 9 ай бұрын

Not sure what you are watching. But we don’t deal with corn, I never did a corn video and no it would not cost 70k for plot dr nitrogen per acre. You clearly have us confused with someone else. We never did a corn video, we don’t plant corn

@harpergrowingsolutions2062 9 ай бұрын

im not sure what video that was but with my liquid N we are mainly using it as a foliar and is normally anywhere from 1 qt-3 gal per acre, which at the very high end costing 90$ per acre. not sure the cost of urea now but thats not too expensive depedning on the situation. On your question of getting #'s to the plant when doing foliar N, your getting right in the plant and not loosing much to leaching,or the soil using any either.