Does Marner deserve the criticism he is receiving?

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Ай бұрын

The Bruins hold a 3-1 series stranglehold over the Maple Leafs and are looking for their fourth playoff series win against Toronto since 2013. If Auston Matthews misses Game 5, what are the odds the Leafs win that game? Do the Leafs believe they can win the series? Do you think Mitch Marner deserves to be the scapegoat? TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button joins Jay Onrait to share his thoughts.

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@laggers54
@laggers54 29 күн бұрын
He’s getting paid 11 mill pretty much and the worst thing is he’ll probably want 13 on his next contract. He deserves all the criticism
@ianburke3826
@ianburke3826 29 күн бұрын
While I agree, Matthews and Nylander just re-signed and they’ve been just as absent
@user-ut4cv7cc2z
@user-ut4cv7cc2z 29 күн бұрын
​@ianburke3826 Nylander only played one game, and Keefe had him on the 3rd line mostly. He should've had him with Matthews and Bertuzzi, and put Domi with Marner and Tavares. We have a coach who refuses to do what's right, and a scared Marner. It's time for both to go
@scooter29
@scooter29 29 күн бұрын
And the Loafs are dumb enough to pay him.
@wainber1
@wainber1 29 күн бұрын
@@user-ut4cv7cc2z This month's conference quarterfinal for the Leafs has been a failure on so many levels. Fail to get out of that round, and I see pressure only growing on Keith Pelley, CEO of Leafs' ownership group MLSE, to, for starters, end Brendan Shanahan's presidency so that big changes, including a break-up of the AM34-Marner-Nylander-Rielly-Tavares quintet, can finally occur.
@user-ut4cv7cc2z
@user-ut4cv7cc2z 29 күн бұрын
@@scooter29 You realize that he would have received the same money on almost any other team, don't you? It's not about the Leafs. You're too stupid and ignorant to know that.
@loutheshoe9415
@loutheshoe9415 29 күн бұрын
He deserves much MORE than he is getting
@cliffordjordan9577
@cliffordjordan9577 29 күн бұрын
Criticism, not money I hope 😂
@SimRacingVeteran
@SimRacingVeteran 29 күн бұрын
Marner was never left at the gas station by his dad after a bad game, just to have his mom come pick him up. Being left at a gas station makes champions.
@jlove8445
@jlove8445 29 күн бұрын
Always has, always will
@jb1934
@jb1934 29 күн бұрын
Actually, I'd thought the anecdotal reports were that Marner senior was indeed a bit of a dink. He had success in junior, where to my knowledge the Knights have been a model franchise for hockey best practices, as owned and operated by the Hunter bros for like, decades. Then he arrives at Toronto, and joins the very definition of an incompetent and dysfunctional organization. I think Marner will phase out of Toronto and get his chance with another organization on his next contract. I will not be surprised if wins his Stanley cup one spring.
@JoeBine77
@JoeBine77 29 күн бұрын
Lol you Ontarians have it easy... you waiting for mom to come pick you up ? I had to take the bus.
@youngman2451
@youngman2451 29 күн бұрын
@@JoeBine77 Big chip, little province.
@JoeBine77
@JoeBine77 29 күн бұрын
@@youngman2451 My province has the largest surface area in Canada and we are not one of your provinces because you excluded us from the constitution.
@finnishline
@finnishline 29 күн бұрын
He makes twice what Hyman does, and produces WAY less when it counts.
@mikeleblanc8323
@mikeleblanc8323 29 күн бұрын
So does Matthews.
@canuckowl
@canuckowl 29 күн бұрын
Hyman produced way less when it counts when he was on the Leafs.
@RJForest.
@RJForest. 29 күн бұрын
Hyman had one good year
@sachads5322
@sachads5322 29 күн бұрын
Marner's playoff PPG is higher than Hyman's. His PPG is higher than a ton of people who are considered playoff performers. Timliness is definitely up for debate but Marner produces in the playoffs.
@rogersalles200
@rogersalles200 29 күн бұрын
Hyman plays in a weak series, lets see how they do if facing Boston,Florida, Canes, etc
@waterh2o37
@waterh2o37 29 күн бұрын
100% yes he does, this man demanded Matthew's type money on this current contract with that type of money comes big expectations. Every play this man looks at the ref with hands up expecting a call. I am tired of his way, good regular season player, not 11 million good, and playoffs, not even 5 million. Only if he fought as hard as he did for this contract as he does on the ice during the most critical games. Folds like a cheap tent, how can he be considered an elite player when the pressure is off only can he get points
@SillySongs4Everyone2001
@SillySongs4Everyone2001 29 күн бұрын
Watch Marner play and he’s simply disengaged
@waterh2o37
@waterh2o37 29 күн бұрын
@@SillySongs4Everyone2001 you can't be making 11 million playing in Toronto, your hometown! I'm praying for a waive of his no trade clause
@danc2159
@danc2159 27 күн бұрын
Well said. He looks so gassed 15 minutes into the 1st period right now. I'm all for my hometown players from Markham Richmond Hill area but he's been laid out so many times already he can't even come close to a player without folding
@wizzerwiser2056
@wizzerwiser2056 24 күн бұрын
@@waterh2o37 It's very common for the Maple Leafs to way overpay low performing players. Although Marner is one of the highest paid in team history there are plenty before him who got big contracts with a NTC and couldn't even help the Leafs make the playoffs let alone win a round.
@user-vh9vw7un9b
@user-vh9vw7un9b 29 күн бұрын
This train wreck starts at the top MLSE / Shanahan built a team to score in the regular season and built to generate revenue. Time to dump them all.
@user-ut4cv7cc2z
@user-ut4cv7cc2z 29 күн бұрын
I'm tired of all you could potatoes criticizing Shanahan. He has nothing to do with the players being brought in or how they're deployed by the coach. The only criticism he deserves is that he hasn't changed the coach. Keefe has to go, Marner has to go, and they need to reshape the D so that it's bigger and tougher. Brodie and Giordano will be gone, they should trade Liljegren and re-sign Edmondson and Lybushkin. A goalie would be nice. But, the bottom line is, it's the coach and the players fault for failing, NOT Shanahan's.
@rolandrothchild8889
@rolandrothchild8889 29 күн бұрын
@@user-ut4cv7cc2z ... ad hominem attacks reveal poor character. I also agree both Shanahan and Keefe should have been sent packing with Dubas. Hope Keith Pelley is serious about resetting this organization.
@jlove8445
@jlove8445 29 күн бұрын
I see it the exact same way as you with regards to the type of players defenders outgoing and the ones to re-sign. Can work on an extension for McCabe as well (I’m not big on Reilly and his contract either to be perfectly honest) But the team needs to continue being re-shaped, there is plenty of cap room to turn over, it’s time to ask them to waive some no trade clauses in my personal opinion.
@wizzerwiser2056
@wizzerwiser2056 24 күн бұрын
@@user-ut4cv7cc2z It is Shanahan's fault. He brought in an analytics GM from the OHL who had no experience in scouting or contract negotiations. He hired his long time coach who was hated by the players. He was behind the Tavares signing. And he's the only one left from the original management group. The guy has no business being team president and he's had a longer leash than any of his predecessors with lesser results.
@briandufoe3719
@briandufoe3719 29 күн бұрын
The last few games of Toronto's regular season play was a good indication of how their series with Boston was going to go. How did getting Dewar and adding the two defenseman help ? It didnt.
@hyjacker
@hyjacker 29 күн бұрын
All you announcers say the regular season means nothing in the play off, yet ya keep referring to the regular season.
@smolderingtitan
@smolderingtitan 29 күн бұрын
You have to refer to the regular season to make the case.
@hyjacker
@hyjacker 29 күн бұрын
@@smolderingtitan then why say the regular season doesn’t count, obviously the Bruins are a better team regardless of what standard is used.
@jonah.donohue
@jonah.donohue 29 күн бұрын
What is your logic here?
@smolderingtitan
@smolderingtitan 29 күн бұрын
@@hyjacker a team plays well during the regular season. No matter how well they played then it doesn't count now during the different conditions of the playoffs. Likewise a team plays well during the first playoffs round and wins. Now the first round doesn't count because what works against the team from the first round might not work against the new team in the second round.
@kissed61
@kissed61 29 күн бұрын
Nobody can touch The Leafs in the handshake line.
@GhostWizard138
@GhostWizard138 29 күн бұрын
Toronto’s game is receding almost as fast as Matthews hairline. Brutal
@chrismckay8584
@chrismckay8584 29 күн бұрын
There was a reason Babcock chose him to pick on he’s probably having a laugh right now
@rogersalles200
@rogersalles200 29 күн бұрын
and they demonized that coach.
@giii7599
@giii7599 29 күн бұрын
Keefe’s legacy in Toronto: - Losing to a 42 year old Zamboni driver who works for them - Getting embarrassed in a play-in bubble playoffs. - Twice losing to a COVID ravaged Canucks team. - Blowing a 5-1 lead to the last place Senators - Dropping Freddie for Jack Campbell in 2021 but sticking with Samsonov in 2024. - Blowing a 3-1 series lead to Montreal because Galchenyuk was your best hope. - game 7 2022 and game 5 2023. - getting embarrassed by Marner anytime he tries to discipline him - all of the above was done AT HOME
@democraticdialogue7271
@democraticdialogue7271 29 күн бұрын
Keefe is not fit to coach at the NHL, period
@braedonconnor4389
@braedonconnor4389 29 күн бұрын
I do think he deserves some but right now he's getting criticism for the whole team being in shambles which is not deserved
@NeutralOmen
@NeutralOmen 29 күн бұрын
Marners ego is what gets in his way.
@user-ut4cv7cc2z
@user-ut4cv7cc2z 29 күн бұрын
And the fact that he's afraid to take a hit. He's not a playoff type player. He has to go
@mvxxderxnxx3078
@mvxxderxnxx3078 29 күн бұрын
@@user-ut4cv7cc2z mcdavid tho dawg mcjesus my dawg but dude scared tho
@imutorln2470
@imutorln2470 29 күн бұрын
@@mvxxderxnxx3078 McDavid shows up in the play offs.
@democraticdialogue7271
@democraticdialogue7271 29 күн бұрын
Too bad we don't have a player like Nathan McKinnon - he has grit, talent, skill and heart. Marner is a pussycat
@Droz75
@Droz75 29 күн бұрын
It's Matthews defensive game thats going to hurt the most without him in the lineup.
@mvxxderxnxx3078
@mvxxderxnxx3078 29 күн бұрын
oN god
@Blake-jz5bh
@Blake-jz5bh 29 күн бұрын
No we can do it without him leafs don't gave a bad record without him
@joshbraun3743
@joshbraun3743 29 күн бұрын
He deserves the criticism 110%
@MrWookie1981
@MrWookie1981 29 күн бұрын
He is 1 point back from the team lead in points and one of only two forwards with a positive plus minus.
@timkitchen692
@timkitchen692 29 күн бұрын
He is the only one of the big 4 to do anything at all over the last 2 games. Somehow it isn't enough from Marner but acceptable for the other 3 to do nothing.
@13loodbunny
@13loodbunny 29 күн бұрын
He’s the only one to not do anything*. Fixed that for you
@filthydegenerate6528
@filthydegenerate6528 29 күн бұрын
It's the same old shit time and time again. Shitty attitude, Laughable giveaways, afraid to get hit, Temper tantrums....been this way for years. The goal he scored was luckier than all fuck. He gave the puck away right before that and just so happened to have it come back to him. His bad far outweighs his good in moments like these
@pomerlain8924
@pomerlain8924 29 күн бұрын
Who was the one that abandoned their position in the diamond on the penalty kill that led to the GWG by Marchand? Who was the one that was constantly losing puck battles? Yeah, he scored a goal, in the third period, when it was 3-0. Doesn't make up for his crap play during the first two periods. Simply looking at his stats doesn't tell the story of how bad he played.
@timkitchen692
@timkitchen692 29 күн бұрын
@@pomerlain8924 The problem is he is the only one really being criticized of the big 4. Matthews always gets a free pass, it seems Tavares also gets a free pass. 3 out of the 4 games Matthews did nothing, same for Tavares. Why do these guys get a free pass but the screws are applied so hard to Marner. I am not claiming he has been great but he still has produced more in the last 2 games then all three of the other big 4 combined. Nylander gets a pass because he has only been in for 1 game. He isn't the only one doing little to nothing so to only coitize the one and not the others is flawed to me. They are all guilty of failure.
@Smilingpolitely553
@Smilingpolitely553 29 күн бұрын
You know he scored the only goal last game on a play he authored right?
@tjp1451
@tjp1451 29 күн бұрын
The “It’s just another game” mentality is rampant with this team. Robertson said the same thing. They just do not get it, the culture of losing continues.
@automatoncollectives7237
@automatoncollectives7237 29 күн бұрын
Of course he does. He’s great in the regular season, but lacks the physicality necessary to create space in the playoffs. If he has to fight for space, he seems to simply disengage. In the playoffs space is contested, and he’s not contesting, thus he looks completely ineffective a lot of the time.
@JT-gi8rx
@JT-gi8rx 29 күн бұрын
Exactly. And you can’t give him a pass because he’s small, because Marchand is small and fights like hell, guy is like a wolverine.
@jamalstephenson7140
@jamalstephenson7140 29 күн бұрын
Brayden Point is also small, but has come up big in the playoffs several times.
@automatoncollectives7237
@automatoncollectives7237 29 күн бұрын
@@jamalstephenson7140 Not my point. “Coming up big several times” isn’t what I’m talking about. Even Mitch came up with a goal last game, right? My point it he lacks the physicality to be a dominant force in the playoffs. He refuses to go through opponents. If he can’t skate around them then he disengages.
@automatoncollectives7237
@automatoncollectives7237 29 күн бұрын
@@JT-gi8rx Marchand is small but seems built like a boss. Mitch looks like an undeveloped teenager. That said, as you alluded to: one is a bull dog with a hunter mentality; the other is a finesse forward that lacks the spirit required at this time of year. Marchand loves and welcomes this environment; Mitch withdrawals from it. Huge difference.
@democraticdialogue7271
@democraticdialogue7271 29 күн бұрын
@@jamalstephenson7140 You are right, Patrick Kane is small but during the Hawks playoffs he was a force on the ice.
@post1113
@post1113 29 күн бұрын
This is the same guy who predicted the Leafs to sweep Montreal a few years ago.
@plrt6794
@plrt6794 29 күн бұрын
He’s about as insightful as Pierre Maguire.
@kevinmeawasige6458
@kevinmeawasige6458 29 күн бұрын
He also said that CBJ were going to be a non factor when they faced the leafs
@angrydalailama6089
@angrydalailama6089 29 күн бұрын
Ah man. I like P McG. He's odd but he knows his stuff. Craig is insufferable and he contradicts himself often. ​@@plrt6794
@JT-gi8rx
@JT-gi8rx 29 күн бұрын
The Leafs should’ve swept the Habs there. Everyone should’ve beat Montreal, they had the worst team I’ve seen who made a cup final. Carey Price carried that team.
@angrydalailama6089
@angrydalailama6089 29 күн бұрын
@@JT-gi8rx he also criticised the Habs' structure and implied that they'd get waxed. Then they went to the cup final. Craig's an idiot. Calgary fired him far beyond a decade ago and he hasn't had a sniff since.
@SillySongs4Everyone2001
@SillySongs4Everyone2001 29 күн бұрын
Marner is one of the highest paid players in the NHL.
@wiliamkeough2930
@wiliamkeough2930 29 күн бұрын
What is he talking about? Even strength a wash wtf is he watching? Leafs are getting outplayed everywhere.
@hockeyislife7686
@hockeyislife7686 29 күн бұрын
Absolutely, the dude doesn’t even try, he whines, he cries, get him off that team
@johndondertman1502
@johndondertman1502 29 күн бұрын
None of the top 4 players perform in the playoffs, then there’s goaltending, and coaching. So no I wouldn’t lay the blame on Marner.
@vt1340
@vt1340 29 күн бұрын
The blame does not belong to any one player. The simple fact is that there is too much money on too few players and you cant afford solid support or depth. They do not have a true 1st line D-man, nor a top tier goaltender because of the salary structure. So in order to retool, one or two of the big contracts have to go.
@JT-gi8rx
@JT-gi8rx 29 күн бұрын
Going into the next game, they need to hypnotize Matthews into thinking it’s the regular season, and he’s sitting at 67 goals. The guy will play incensed and be a force of nature, trying to reach that 70 goal milestone, just like he was down the stretch.
@premiereent
@premiereent 29 күн бұрын
I can't stop thinking about Button's new toothbrush moustache.
@quincee3376
@quincee3376 29 күн бұрын
Yes he does. And bullshit. Bruins defense was much better than the Leafs.
@xmusicmanx1
@xmusicmanx1 29 күн бұрын
I need some of what Craig is smoking 🚬 What a crazy statement 😂
@Alexdenomme
@Alexdenomme 29 күн бұрын
No it wasn't good defense. It's a collapse to the centre. Problem is the leafs are so bad they won't just shoot the puck a shit load and guarantee a goal statistically. Eventually you get a lucky bounce. You're not gonna win with 13 shots and goalie who can't tend the goal. Boston is mid this year at best. That's what hurts. This is the year the leafs should be tremendously better. But bruins play like a team with discipline that wants to win. The leafs play like a bunch of rich kids who aren't "feeling it"
@quincee3376
@quincee3376 28 күн бұрын
@@Alexdenomme Bruins looked bad tonight.
@RoseGoldenPetal
@RoseGoldenPetal 29 күн бұрын
The fact that does he deserve the criticism is being asked is even ridiculous, of course he does he's being paid 11 Million dollars to play hockey, hell I don't remember Mario or Wayne asking for that much in their contracts, he's barely done his job on the ice and it's showing
@3tommygunns3
@3tommygunns3 29 күн бұрын
He absolutely does deserve it. he wanted the 10.5 mil he has to play to that level Let's not forget that extra 2 to 3 million we overpaid Marner would have left us enough money to keep Hyman SO YA MITCH MARNERS GREED LOST US ZACK HYMAN
@jlove8445
@jlove8445 29 күн бұрын
10.9 but who’s counting…
@Dylligraphy
@Dylligraphy 29 күн бұрын
Hyman without McDavid is no better than Bertuzzi
@user-zx2lh3bj9i
@user-zx2lh3bj9i 29 күн бұрын
Isn’t it John Tavares GREED that screwed the Leafs?!🤔
@jaysoneuloth3971
@jaysoneuloth3971 29 күн бұрын
Number 1, didn't see anyone else score Saturday night. Number 2,how about giving Boston a little more credit.
@bobabooey4537
@bobabooey4537 29 күн бұрын
The Leafs suck dude.... playoff crap.
@davidmorris6254
@davidmorris6254 29 күн бұрын
"I love a good breakfast meat" and that side eye lmao
@JasonsGuitarJams
@JasonsGuitarJams 29 күн бұрын
He does not deserve this much criticism. Mitch is the guy that has the most points in this series.!!
@SS-iv7wv
@SS-iv7wv 29 күн бұрын
He's too soft and not gritty enough to be on a cup contender. Sorry, he just isn't.
@jlove8445
@jlove8445 29 күн бұрын
Marchand makes 6.5 and fully agrees to play an effective system of play The Leafs demand McDavid money and disagree to play an effective system of play “There’s no money in defence” mentality “Regular season stats secure the bag” mentality
@canuckowl
@canuckowl 29 күн бұрын
It's amazing isn't it. I think Marchand topped out at 8 million about 6 years ago. He's been playing for peanuts since. Marner isn't 1/2 the playoff performer yet makes 2x as much and worse...he thinks he deserves it.
@rogersalles200
@rogersalles200 29 күн бұрын
@@canuckowl Any team in the playoffs can beat the leafs easily , all teams know the leafs culture and attitude, easy to beat them in the playoffs when the league gets tougher. Boston would not survive against teams like Carolina or florida well...we saw that last year.
@jlove8445
@jlove8445 29 күн бұрын
@@canuckowl it is amazing... If Money is so important then why didnt Marchand hold out, why didnt Pastrnak? clearly better players! Nathan McKinnon earns 12.6 million (that marner thinks hes worth) and thats after McKinnon made 6.3 while marner made 10.9??? Marner couldnt eat atthe same table as Mckinnon and the aformentioned bruins, only the Leafs get rewarded for little return
@rogersalles200
@rogersalles200 29 күн бұрын
Get a coach that would scratch these guys after a bad game.
@dibbsutd
@dibbsutd 29 күн бұрын
Mitch Marner is Steve Yzerman pre 1996. Super skilled, scores lots of regular season points but flops in playoffs. Yzerman changed his game. Changed his attitude on what it took to be a winner. Marner needs to do the same.
@michaelcalland801
@michaelcalland801 29 күн бұрын
Do the Leafs even practice special teams ? This has to be some of the worst PK & PP I’ve ever seen….EVER ! You can blame Marner, Nylander’s illness or whatever! Lack of Special Teams has murdered the Leafs this series & that starts with coaching.
@cdm765
@cdm765 29 күн бұрын
Yes. The answer is yes.
@toke7342
@toke7342 29 күн бұрын
The Bruins are just better, not much they can do.
@syntaxer1984
@syntaxer1984 29 күн бұрын
The Bruins hockey program is better than the Leafs. Plain and simple. They have developed from within and deploy a better hockey system.
@John577
@John577 29 күн бұрын
He wanted to get paid like a top five player in the league. Those players are paid to break through. He and the entire core 5 deserve it!
@hafizshariff6710
@hafizshariff6710 29 күн бұрын
If you can't take the pressure in the kitchen, then get out
@kellenc_
@kellenc_ 29 күн бұрын
The only fight they show is when players score game sealing empty nets of them.
@user-zx2lh3bj9i
@user-zx2lh3bj9i 29 күн бұрын
Toxic at the wrong player John Tavares is suppose to be the FN Captain right?!He CLEANED ALL THE MONEY OFF THE TABLE!!!
@binoched9302
@binoched9302 29 күн бұрын
Is Button EVER right? LOL 🤣🤣🤣
@leopoldgibouleau8860
@leopoldgibouleau8860 29 күн бұрын
I would feel for the poor leafs if they were less cocky during the regular season… but nahh 😅😂. That team doesn’t have the grit, defense and goalie to win in playoffs.
@nickpete165
@nickpete165 29 күн бұрын
Did this guy just say the leafs defense is better than bostons? Toronto hasn't had a defense for 20 yrs L take
@monkeysbmean
@monkeysbmean 29 күн бұрын
Before even watching the vid, yes for cap reasons and playoff performances alone. The mix isn’t working in Toronto. Hope he wins a cup somewhere else.
@dangraesser5341
@dangraesser5341 29 күн бұрын
Marner was the scapegoat last year! Are you fkn kidding me that the media thinks one guy is to blame! What's to blame is the organization that has accepted for years players with zero killer instinct! Charmin!
@13loodbunny
@13loodbunny 29 күн бұрын
When you are the scapegoat every year you might be the problem
@paullacroix527
@paullacroix527 29 күн бұрын
No!!! When MM got hurt he was flying, well on his way to 100 points. Might have led the team if he got really hot. Certainly would have had more than WN. To anyone with eyeballs they should see he's not skating like he was. It's obvious. My guess is he came back too soon, like a committed Leaf would. With all the fans saying get rid of him for a bag of pucks, I say 2x 1st team all-star, prolific assist getter and plays PP and penalty kill. Those skills are special and his offense AND defense are elite.
@ovechkin100
@ovechkin100 29 күн бұрын
he deserves criticism, but the entire leafs team does too. they all look shaky, unsure, not confident. they look like they are chasing the puck, not sure where to be. they have absolutely NO swagger. To focus on Marner like he is losing it for the leafs is pathetic.
@arionrowan5273
@arionrowan5273 29 күн бұрын
On the back of the ticket it says for entertainment purposes only. 😂😂😂.
@elisabarbuto4709
@elisabarbuto4709 29 күн бұрын
New Toronto Maple Leafs Coach=Craig Button
@agustinadrianuy7498
@agustinadrianuy7498 29 күн бұрын
11M? 0 points in first 2 games? nice way of wasting money!!
@rjj4304
@rjj4304 29 күн бұрын
Beyond deserved....hes been like this for 5 years....the real story is how people are only realizing it now
@Ineverleft604
@Ineverleft604 29 күн бұрын
I dont think Mathews was talking to Marner he was more likely talking to Nylander Mathews looks likebhe was talking to Nylander
@SS-iv7wv
@SS-iv7wv 29 күн бұрын
People in Trono seem to have blinders on regarding their team. Marner useless in the playoffs and Nylander is equivalent to a shinny league 4th liner. This team that Shanny built is pretty much going to go nowhere's with Tavares as the captain who has no sense of urgency or fight in him. Matthews, you really have to question whether he has a heart for this game. Yeah he loves dancing around in December when he's got 40 goals but when it matters he really has no heart which is sad. His brain is back in Phoenix and golfing this time of year. Did I say anything untrue?
@j.frankparnell3087
@j.frankparnell3087 29 күн бұрын
Marner post-game: "We're grown men." Is he trying to convince us or himself?
@chrismckinnon4241
@chrismckinnon4241 29 күн бұрын
Look at your fellow player and ask CAN YOU DO YOUR FUCKING JOB TONIGHT? If yes WE WILL WIN, AS IM ALLIN
@jasonlarmer9420
@jasonlarmer9420 29 күн бұрын
What's a strangehold?
@Ferg13
@Ferg13 29 күн бұрын
Not just Marner. Every single player on that team. 1 loss in play in series against BlurJackets. 1 2nd round appearance in the Playoffs. 6 years of 1st round failure. The 4 Horsemen have to be broken up in the off season. I suspect Marner will be the one on the block sue to him needing a new contract (after next season) and he will command around Papii34’s amount of money. So Nylander stays. I like JT. But he hasn’t done a thing to lead us in the playoffs. Don’t know if leafs should let him walk and find someone a little younger? I’d Probly trade Rielly as well. He’s getting up there in age. Had a great career. Going all the way back to Burke era. Time to re-tool the defence. Sammy id trade him. And go with Woll. I think he is ready. And he should start tonight against the Booins. Domi and Bert I’d love to keep around. Brodie should be gone as well. This is the summer GM Tre can put his finger prints on the Leafs. It’s time to do away with Dubas mess he left. Just my Opinion of course. I’ve been a Leafs fan most of my Life (I’m 50). And haven’t seen them the grand prize in Hockey. Same shite different story every year. No progress made. Jut regular season wonders and playoff chokers. I have all my leaf collections in boxes. Decided to take ‘em down. Waste of money and space. Until I see improvement. My collection will remain down. Not that it hurts the team any. They’ve always disappointed me the past 8 years. I’m done with this team for awhile.
@SimRacingVeteran
@SimRacingVeteran 29 күн бұрын
Tldr
@13loodbunny
@13loodbunny 29 күн бұрын
@@SimRacingVeterantl;dr bad goaltending. Trade marner
@barrycalhoun2658
@barrycalhoun2658 29 күн бұрын
Dont take the cap space if you dont want to carry the team on your back.
@bilalaftab1699
@bilalaftab1699 29 күн бұрын
The series is still alive, let’s gooooo l. Go leafs Go 💙💙
@zaftra
@zaftra 29 күн бұрын
There's not a cat in ecks chance any team will get rid of one of the best passers there is. I suspect Tavares will go.
@joeshittheragman6252
@joeshittheragman6252 29 күн бұрын
You can't build a team around 4 players that make over 40 million
@googleaccount2637
@googleaccount2637 29 күн бұрын
Word is Treliving rustled up a big ol'bag o' money for anyone who can get a couple points during the elimination game. 💰
@riina101112
@riina101112 29 күн бұрын
jay carries TSN
@tomlew55
@tomlew55 29 күн бұрын
Maybe, just maybe, the Bruins have something to do with how the series is going.
@brandonsquire143
@brandonsquire143 29 күн бұрын
LOL man it gets me every time, listen I never liked the leafs and I’m Canadian, I don’t like Matthews either. Yeah he can score. Does he make other players on his line better., I’d argue no. You need a team player. A two way hard worker. You can expect to win when your team relying too much in a one dimension player.
@brandonsquire143
@brandonsquire143 29 күн бұрын
Marner too, scared mans too afraid to get physical, that won’t win you games. Grinding out shift to shift will, forcing your own chances
@paulatherton6851
@paulatherton6851 29 күн бұрын
Its not just one guy here, all the top end players have not performed to what they are being paid. when you pay guys that haven`t won this to me is a big issue. i would rather two 5 million dollar players with heart than one of these so called core 4 making what they are. if Boston can do it, if Florida can do it, why cant the LEAFS. Its going to be an issue paying out that kind of coin for guys that haven`t won anything its nuts. change has to come.
@philipviolenus6835
@philipviolenus6835 28 күн бұрын
I agree it's collective not 1 or 3 guys are the team. This is the nhl boys. Best of the best. Be your all with a broken foot like Kadri!
@jimlangdon1947
@jimlangdon1947 29 күн бұрын
The Leafs Core 4 was doomed to failure when it was created. The wrong players were selected. No point in comparing Willie to Mitch. The Leafs Executives screwed up big time - by not prioritizing Leaf Core 4 upgrades this past year. Also, why are Leaf Fans in denial that Matthews is a playoff disappointment at centre. Snipers like OV, Matthews, Selanne and Hull belong on the wing. The Maple Leafs are now famous mostly for being the worst playoff team in the history of the NHL. At least no body does it better than Toronto’s hockey team in that regard. 😀
@jibjabhamers8177
@jibjabhamers8177 29 күн бұрын
Hes an Ontario rich kid. Before he signed. Rebuild seasons are a comings. 5 year plans here we go.
@chrisbryz1652
@chrisbryz1652 29 күн бұрын
Yes
@Spetsnazty
@Spetsnazty 29 күн бұрын
Headaches and tummy aches. The meme team. Can’t been blame marner
@user-zx2lh3bj9i
@user-zx2lh3bj9i 29 күн бұрын
No fn way hits century mark in points every year and for Willy “or won’t he” Melander whining pisses me off!
@richardcastelo9587
@richardcastelo9587 29 күн бұрын
Bruins have a strange hold?🤨
@Starryder
@Starryder 29 күн бұрын
Wow a 3-1 series strangehold huh?
@rossfen5686
@rossfen5686 29 күн бұрын
Craig Button s said the leafs would win in this series, he clearly does not understand hockey!
@sublime8728
@sublime8728 29 күн бұрын
Breakfast is the worst meal of the day.
@Seanz069
@Seanz069 29 күн бұрын
Only watching Jay bc of Shoresy!
@steve8803
@steve8803 29 күн бұрын
We've known for years that the core doesn't have what it takes to be successful in the playoffs. Yet, year after years the leafs keep it the same and think the results will be different. They need to grow some stones and pull a big a move like the panthers did when they got Tkachuk.
@Tiglath-PileserXIX
@Tiglath-PileserXIX 29 күн бұрын
Auston is still sore he did not score 70. He is done for the season. That illness is just an excuse. He had a tantrum during the second intermission and refused to return to the ice. Its either that or his mom's cooking did not agree with him.
@samgardner4667
@samgardner4667 29 күн бұрын
The kid gets $11M, but damn man. He doesn’t play with any type of physicality at all. Grit doesn’t win games, but you need it to win.
@4.0.7.7
@4.0.7.7 29 күн бұрын
If you don’t think he deserves it wait till he asks for a raise this summer
@mikebrunski6381
@mikebrunski6381 29 күн бұрын
Who is Keefe fooling, the effort was NOT there, not even close to the effort the Bruins had in game 4. Keefe and Shanahan have to go. The Shanaplan more like the shambleplan, complete shambles in the playoffs year after year.
@Mike-vx3ld3il7w
@Mike-vx3ld3il7w 29 күн бұрын
Marner coming off an Injury scores by himself. what did the rest of the team accomplish?
@sassy5128
@sassy5128 29 күн бұрын
Big f deal he scores a goal and they still lose 3 to 1. Overall the last 7 years of making the playoffs, please gimme a break 😊
@Mike-vx3ld3il7w
@Mike-vx3ld3il7w 29 күн бұрын
@@sassy5128 It takes a team to win games. they need to start playing as one. zone entires have been a joke. no one looks good. I'm wondering if the whole team has the flu or covid.
@sassy5128
@sassy5128 29 күн бұрын
@@Mike-vx3ld3il7w fully aware it takes a team. But these guys play individually... remember they were trying to make him get 70 goals ... what does that matter if you can't produce in the playoffs
@pomerlain8924
@pomerlain8924 29 күн бұрын
Who kept losing board battles? Marner. Who abandoned their spot on the PK which lead to the GWG by Marchand? Marner. Who was whining and looking for calls? Marner. Who was throwing a tantrum on the bench, while wearing a letter on his jersey? Marner.
@Mike-vx3ld3il7w
@Mike-vx3ld3il7w 29 күн бұрын
​@@pomerlain8924 Who won board battles? who played good on the PK? Who had any passion at all? No one stop blaming an injured Marner for everything. yes he could do better and have a better attitude but this whole team needs to do that.
@scho7574
@scho7574 29 күн бұрын
First year, he is a rookis, , second year, he is developing, third year, he is still young, fourth year, he doesnt has support, 7th year?
@bobabooey4537
@bobabooey4537 29 күн бұрын
If Mitch had some Dougie Gilmour DNA.... he'd be a superstar. I think Marner would prefer a non contact NHL.
@beankounter3923
@beankounter3923 29 күн бұрын
Strangehold? Seems like Toronto still holds the ‘L’
@BahamutBreaker
@BahamutBreaker 29 күн бұрын
Underrated comment.
@alexandrel4569
@alexandrel4569 29 күн бұрын
Leafs players have the talent. But they don't have the balls and even less so the heart to compete in the playoffs.
@colechevalier7786
@colechevalier7786 29 күн бұрын
Yes he hasnt gotten enough
@user-fc2tj8lf2m
@user-fc2tj8lf2m 29 күн бұрын
To say we will not go quietly into the night, without a fight, we're gonna live on, we're gonna survive, today we celebrate our independence day.....wait wrong show..😂
@nonokayakjack
@nonokayakjack 27 күн бұрын
Leafs drafted Mitch Marner and got Jason Blake instead.
@seancox2840
@seancox2840 29 күн бұрын
What else did anyone expect here? Boston has owned the Leafs now for years, and will continue to have their number. All the people bashing Marner because of how much he gets paid, it MANAGEMENT that offered the contract! If you don’t do well under pressure at your job, but the boss offers you $1m pay raise, what do you do?
@lynnanderson6499
@lynnanderson6499 29 күн бұрын
Yes, He doesn't want to play there, he's not a team player' and he's not a leader
@mediumdoubledouble9012
@mediumdoubledouble9012 29 күн бұрын
At the end of the day, professional sports is entertainment, and Toronto has a big hockey fan base. Criticism is deserved but at the same time, the leafs media is all over the place.
@dwon9873
@dwon9873 29 күн бұрын
Leafs may be better off without Matthews. Don't rely on this guy and play as a team. Grind and play smothering defence and wait for your chances. Go Leafs Go. Go down fighting.
@patrickd1606
@patrickd1606 29 күн бұрын
Leafs don’t have culture. Chara brought a culture Bergeron brought a culture. Marchand brings the culture. They have passed down this toughness and accountability. Leafs haven’t figured it out because they’re a better team this year and you’d never be able to tell
@chrismckinnon4241
@chrismckinnon4241 29 күн бұрын
As a team you have to say collectively WE WILL NOT LET YOU WIN! I will do my job and you guys sort out the rest, but in my game I WILL NOT LET THEM WIN! You do you to make sure we are on the same page again collectively, nothing wrong with playing HANGRY, GOD DAMN IT PLAY ANGRYYYYYYYYY!
@nathanmadox3364
@nathanmadox3364 29 күн бұрын
every single leaf deserves criticism
@williamrallis83
@williamrallis83 29 күн бұрын
Ya Narner does not want to be here He cannot come through ever in the playoffs … too immature bad attitude He requires a tough hardliner serious win oriented coach I would hate to see him go however, he is not worth his salary and he wants $14M to sign on again - no way - good bye Marner
@dylan15243
@dylan15243 29 күн бұрын
Should have known marner wasn't a good teammate when he thew kadri under the bus with babcock instead of being a man and telling babs he's ot giving names because those are his teammates. To this day I think babs tested marner about his team loyalty and marner failed. Especially when he picked Naz. A way harder working player than the core 4.
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