Does Overclocking CPU Cache/Ring Clock Boost Gaming Performance?

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DannyzReviews

DannyzReviews

4 ай бұрын

This is a question that has been on my mind for quite some time. How much does gaming performance scale with Intel’s ring clock/cache speed. Modern Intel processors can be tuned and tweaked in various ways. You can overclock your P-cores, E-cores, and your ring clock. I couldn’t find any thorough benchmarks online comparing various titles at different ring frequencies. Therefore, I decided to take matters into my own hands, and benchmarked 13 various games using my Intel Core i9-13900K at different ring/cache configurations to see how much performance scales. Will overclocking the ring provide the user with any tangible benefits or will it be pointless to even touch the cache? You’ll find out the answer to that question in this video!
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@fated2k
@fated2k 4 ай бұрын
I really like videos like this man good content, helps me validate my own results. nice vid!
@cppctek
@cppctek 4 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on the best timings and settings for the teamgroup 7200 kits? I have a 48gb 7200 kit just like yours and I’m struggling to find the best timings and settings. Running a z690 Maximus hero I can get 7200 stable for the most part using xmp tweaked but in cod it doesn’t like 7200 with these settings so I’ll drop it to 7000. I feel like I’m doing something wrong. I see time and time again people always asking about the timings for this kit yet no ones talking about what they use. It’s like I’m wondering are people stable on this kit with xmp or no?
@firexz4185
@firexz4185 4 ай бұрын
I saw your vid and my I7 12700kf in 5ghz on p core and 3.8ghz on e core but I can overclock ring clock to 4.6ghz on vcore 1.235v low llc I don't know if I have golden sample or not but the cpu took around 210w to 215w on r23 is this should be okay
@vottka1l
@vottka1l 3 ай бұрын
Hello! I have some small and possibly stupid question: my asus rog bios (Z690) shows "target cache frequency" is 5000 MHz (CPU 13900KF) without me changing anything (all cache settings are on auto), and everywhere I look I have the information that the stock cache speed should be 4.5 GHz, what the hell? Should I force cache frequency to 4.5 GHz for better stability?
@jaynayy
@jaynayy 4 ай бұрын
Good video, confirms what I didn't test myself :)
@TheAdrianpp
@TheAdrianpp 4 ай бұрын
How are you testing ring stability? With my 12700k if my ring is unstable I'll get hard freezes at idle, but I can pass every stress test under the sun no problem. Prime95 small fft, occt, cinebench etc.
@cakestapler
@cakestapler 2 ай бұрын
I have a 13600KF and stock ring is currently running at 4500MHz. Considering my UV/OC is running stable right now seems like not much point in jeopardizing that for little or no gain. Thanks for this video.
@club4ghz
@club4ghz 22 күн бұрын
You have to overclock everything or nothing because it all scales together, including ram and all the subtimings.
@Bang4BuckPCGamer
@Bang4BuckPCGamer 4 ай бұрын
Nice work.
@ErockOnTech
@ErockOnTech 4 ай бұрын
Unrelated but I could use some help. My intel system is randomly starting to lag hard with mouse movement. I think Tech Yes City covered this quite well. I’m currently using a 14700K. It was smooth for a while. But recently it’s been very laggy at times. Have you heard of this? Any ideas? Also, if you ever want to chat outside of KZfaq comments I’m open to that.
@DannyzReviews
@DannyzReviews 4 ай бұрын
Hey so I've heard quite a bit about this latency issue pertaining to these new CPUs. I've looked at techyescity's video and haven't encountered problems to that extent and I tried to replicate some of the stuff he did. I've noticed the odd hitch here or there when working in windows, but those were also present on my old 5900X system as well. I did however see some pretty high figures when using latencymon, but they don't seem to impact real world usage though I'm still looking into alleviating that. You should download and check it out, it may point you towards what could be causing the problems with your system. Hit me up on my email and we can discuss more.
@lassekristensen385
@lassekristensen385 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this test and benchmark. From the looks of it the ring L3 OC dosent pay off! Besides it has like 20w or even more in heat penalty. Now it could be cool to see same test in 4K. How does it behave in super resolution. I only play 4K with vsync 120 fps.
@stevensv4864
@stevensv4864 3 ай бұрын
nice bro but what about temps?
@Psychx_
@Psychx_ 2 ай бұрын
I OCed the core and ringbus on my i5-4570K (Haswell) back then. In combination with pushing the RAM from DDR3-1600_CL8 to 2133_CL10 I got a massive bump in gaming performance. While AVG also increased, the improvement of the min/percentile figures was the effect with the most noticable impact on gaming perf. After dialing back core clocks for testing, I noticed that most of the improvement actually came form mem&ring. AFAIK the stock ringbus clock on modern Intel CPUs is less important, since it's pretty much sufficient for ootb settings and then some, as there isn't as much core-clock OC headroom as it used to be (rising CPU speed by a whole 700-1000Mhz isn't much of a thing these days). If the core clocks could be pushed much further, the importance of the ringbus clock would likely increase proportionally once again.
@BIG_HAMZ
@BIG_HAMZ 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if you see better gains with ring clock OC on slower ddr4 platforms
@Ked778
@Ked778 2 ай бұрын
You should have tested cpu bound games like valorant, cs2 etc
@Slixbrah
@Slixbrah 4 ай бұрын
with my old 9900k i could gain some fps, but my 13700k, barely anything, just a waste of time🤣
@kiwibom1
@kiwibom1 4 ай бұрын
With games that are out today, yeah but in the next few years it likely going to help.
@amirafshar2580
@amirafshar2580 4 ай бұрын
Nice what about AMD CPUs???
@GetRekkles
@GetRekkles 29 күн бұрын
With CPU oc there is very minimal difference compare to ram tuning. That's where a lot of performance is hiding.
@TheMarineDoctor
@TheMarineDoctor 4 ай бұрын
Gone are the days of overclocking....
@omegax6511
@omegax6511 2 ай бұрын
My Question ? Do you really need to over clock this spec
@gladysmaria9804
@gladysmaria9804 4 ай бұрын
Duh everyone knows though with a few registry tweaks you can go from 40 fps to 300 fps.😉
@impuls60
@impuls60 4 ай бұрын
Your 5000Mhz OC is UNSTABLE, there is no chance you should get lower fps unless run to run deviance. Retry at 4900Mhz. The shelf you see will sometimes will change with even faster ram(Lower latency). Tuned can be like 56ns while us harcore guys gets like 43Ns. So lower latency on ring combined with super low latency on ram will ofc give a total of lower latency. Thats something every engineer agrees upon. If this affects fps enough is still up for debate. But your oc has to be 100% stable not to get skewed results. Otherwise a very interesting vid!
@H0don
@H0don 4 ай бұрын
How do you know that? Based on what?
@Keaweahe
@Keaweahe 4 ай бұрын
​@@H0donhe said hes getting under 50ns. He obviously knows how to tune his stuff. By tune i mean, change a setting run a test and repeat. Its not unbelievable lol.
@ashryver3605
@ashryver3605 3 ай бұрын
Yup that's what people learn at some point about overclocking Ring. Even if you go through your whole day to day without erroring or crashing, it doesn't mean it's stable, and Ring instability manifests in VERY odd and sometimes small ways. While people have different opinions on him, Framechaser's ring stability with uncapped fortnite menu test is a good example of it and it IS possible to replicate, at least on the same platform (4th gen). But usually yes, some odd stuttering, things like that... It's like this hidden ghost.
@weetjewatikwil1
@weetjewatikwil1 2 ай бұрын
no one test the latency its always fps...fps is not everything!!
@-Rizecek-
@-Rizecek- 2 ай бұрын
Overclocking in 2024 is pointless. One gets a 7% difference in performance for a 30% difference in consumption.
@cakestapler
@cakestapler 2 ай бұрын
It's more about undervolting now. My 13600KF is running in the high 50s to low 60s on an air cooler while gaming even with +300MHz OC. Lower temps, lower power draw, more frames.
@scamdem1c
@scamdem1c 3 ай бұрын
will overclocking infinity fabric(ryzen 7000/8000/9000) improve performance?
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