*Timestamps:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:24 - Background of the Guest 0:56 - Topic of the stream 1:30 - Introduction to the Topic & its History 3:09 - Overview of the Topics to be covered 7:18 - The Non-Crucifixion Verse in the Qur'an 9:55 - Muslim Consensus on the Crucifixion 15:21 - Early Non-Muslim Consensus 19:14 - Exegesis vs Eisegesis 24:26 - Questioning the Consensus 40:04 - Prophet Muhammad's ﷺ interpretation 45:07 - Muslim-Christian Rapprochement 52:05 - Defending the Inerrancy of the Qur'an 59:04 - The Muhammad's ﷺ Authorship Dilemma 1:03:07 - Jesus & Mary in the Talmud 1:08:51 - The Crucifixion in the Talmud 1:10:51 - The Non-Crucifixion Verse & the Tamudic Passage 1:12:22 - Qur'an's Engagement with the Talmud 1:16:08 - The Jews of Arabia outside Islamic Sources 1:19:35 - The Qur'an's "Direct access to History" 1:23:33 - Misusing Quranic verses to Refute the Consensus of the Muslims 1:28:21 - Other Quranic Verses denying the Crucifixion 1:32:46 - Verses 153-154 of Chapter 4: Criticism of the Jews 1:34:05 - Immediate Context of Chapter 4 Verses 155-156 1:37:45 - Quranic Arabic Construct 1:39:53 - Breakdown of the Crucifixion Verse 1:41:00 - Multiple-Negation Statements 1:41:35 - God's Response to the attempt on Jesus's Life 1:42:24 - Conclusion, Summary & Closing Statements SUBHANALLAH ❤️🤍❤️ Brilliant & Insightful Discussion 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you both and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻

Masha'Allah. Thank you for this Brother Paul and Dr. Fatoohi.

Sir you are coming up with so much content I am not able to keep up. Subhanallah. May Allah grant you Jannah al firdaws.

Another brilliant lecture. Thank you Dr Louay Fatoohi. Thank you Paul for inviting all these great lecturers.

Thanks Paul for your excellent work.May Allah bless you.

Allhumdullah for Islam and brother Paul who single-handedly is reviving the Muslim love for scholarship.

Paul, thank you for this clarifying lecture. I had recently heard a Muslim scholar discuss the ambiguity regarding the crucifixion of Jesus (pbuh), and was really disturbed by this novel interpretation. So I appreciate Dr. Fatoohi's careful analysis of the Quranic verse(s) surrounding this event and his thoughtful arguments supporting the traditional Islamic interpretation.

Really good interview! Dr. Fatoohi's knowledge is broad (science, theology, linguistics) and very impressive. He has raised many points that many do not discuss and probably haven't even thought of. So, thanks for this highly informative episode in our journey in theology!

The early Christians certainly made a mistake making the crusafixtion a central part of their ideology. It turned the religion of Jesus into a religion about Jesus.

This was very educational especially nearing the final parts of the video. To understand the language with how the Quran structures itself really opens up a new level of knowledge on the subject. Thanks Paul and Dr Louay Fatoohi.

In my opinion, the Quran is clear "it appears to the people followers of prophet Jesus (pbuh) that he was killed or the jews trying to kill him appeared to them he was killed" what really happened Allah knows and He said that prophet Jesus was not crucified and not killed, but Allah elevated him to the heavens. History will only report what appear to people.

What a marvelous presentation, so easy to follow and I love the conclusion slide.

Been looking forward to this!

I was hoping brother Paul could have a discussion with Proffessor Joseph Lumbard . Who is an associate proffessor of quranic studies, author and translator of many books.

As'salam Alaikum , Thank you Paul and Louay Fatoohi , very thorough and enlightening ! @ Blogging Theology , you never miss .

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah brother Paul. Always interesting and informative.

I have been longing to hear this topic. Always thought it was a matter of interpretation. Thanks for bringing light to this matter.

Thrilled to see Dr. Fatoohi appearing in BT. Good job br. Paul!

Can’t believe we have access to all these great scholars. TQ Paul 🤚✋

Jazak'Allah, great presentation. May Allah reward the presenters and increase our faith.

This channel is one of the best - please keep it up brother Paul!

Brilliant exchange! Thanks To you Paul and your valuable guest 👍

Masya Allah another Dhuha tazkirah for me. Its 9.35am here in Malaysia.

It's free academic class on historicity and substance of the verse. Breath-taking!

ALLAH BLESS TO PERSON READING THIS ALLAH IS GOING TO BLESS YOUR LIFE TODAY JUST TRUST IN HIM AMEN ALLAH BLESS YOU ALL HOPE YOU THE BEST IN LIFE ❤

Wow i love it!!!! May Allah bless you Brother Paul for the Readings that you are giving us.... Amazing.... 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼 Alhamdullilah

Thx for this video very interesting and informative! I believe Didat in one of his videos adressed the crucification by explaining from the injil how there is no proof of it in the injil itself so it was based on "sayings"

MashaAllah MashaAllah MashaAllah, so interesting, so much informative. May Allah reward you both for your efforts!

Looking at the title of the video and initial conversation, I was a bit confused, I thought we are going to have a new narrative on the crucifixion. However, at the end it came clear. Thank you paul for arranging such show to educatie us time to time.

Lot more to learn Alhamdulillah ... Thank you Bro Paul🤲🏾🙏🏽

Thank you for sharing gentlemen. So content rich, I’m going to have to listen to this presentation/discussion a few more times!

السلام عليكم ورحمه الله جزاك الله خيرا Great analysis with strong/convincing references and citations. May Allah protect our Iman. الحمدلله

the Quran very explicit was not crucified., nor was killed in any way, but appears to them so. the Quran does not say who was crucified, the important thing he was not, anything beyond that is just speculation.

The verse is very clear … “And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. Certainly, they did not kill him.” [ وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا ٱلْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ ٱللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ لَفِى شَكٍّۢ مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا ٱتِّبَاعَ ٱلظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًۢا ]

Paul, this was another fantastic interview. May Allah s.w.t reward you for all the tremendous effort you put into this channel. I look forward to these videos as others look forward to the airing of their their favorite TV show! Keep up the great work!

It's so clear إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَىٰ إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ۖ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ - 3:55 [Mention] when Allah said, "O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ. فَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا فَأُعَذِّبُهُمْ عَذَابًا شَدِيدًا فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ وَمَا لَهُم مِّن نَّاصِرِينَ - 3:56 And as for those who disbelieved, I will punish them with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers." ذَٰلِكَ نَتْلُوهُ عَلَيْكَ مِنَ الْآيَاتِ وَالذِّكْرِ الْحَكِيمِ - 3:58 This is what We recite to you, [O Muhammad], of [Our] verses and the precise [and wise] message. إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ - 3:59 Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was. الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُن مِّنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ - 3:60 The truth is from your Lord, so do not be among the doubters. فَمَنْ حَاجَّكَ فِيهِ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَكَ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا نَدْعُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَأَبْنَاءَكُمْ وَنِسَاءَنَا وَنِسَاءَكُمْ وَأَنفُسَنَا وَأَنفُسَكُمْ ثُمَّ نَبْتَهِلْ فَنَجْعَل لَّعْنَتَ اللَّهِ عَلَى الْكَاذِبِينَ - 3:61 Then whoever argues with you about it after [this] knowledge has come to you - say, "Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then supplicate earnestly [together] and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars [among us]." قُلْ يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ تَعَالَوْا إِلَىٰ كَلِمَةٍ سَوَاءٍ بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَكُمْ أَلَّا نَعْبُدَ إِلَّا اللَّهَ وَلَا نُشْرِكَ بِهِ شَيْئًا وَلَا يَتَّخِذَ بَعْضُنَا بَعْضًا أَرْبَابًا مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ ۚ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا فَقُولُوا اشْهَدُوا بِأَنَّا مُسْلِمُونَ - 3:64 Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you - that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah ." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]." يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لِمَ تُحَاجُّونَ فِي إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمَا أُنزِلَتِ التَّوْرَاةُ وَالْإِنجِيلُ إِلَّا مِن بَعْدِهِ ۚ أَفَلَا تَعْقِلُونَ - 3:65 O People of the Scripture, why do you argue about Abraham while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after him? Then will you not reason? هَا أَنتُمْ هَٰؤُلَاءِ حَاجَجْتُمْ فِيمَا لَكُم بِهِ عِلْمٌ فَلِمَ تُحَاجُّونَ فِيمَا لَيْسَ لَكُم بِهِ عِلْمٌ ۚ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ - 3:66 Here you are - those who have argued about that of which you have [some] knowledge, but why do you argue about that of which you have no knowledge? And Allah knows, while you know not. مَا كَانَ إِبْرَاهِيمُ يَهُودِيًّا وَلَا نَصْرَانِيًّا وَلَٰكِن كَانَ حَنِيفًا مُّسْلِمًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ - 3:67 Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah ]. And he was not of the polytheists.

Assalamualaikum brother Paul Once again a Fascinating discussion, May allah (swt) reward you for your efforts Your brother Hasan

Great presentation. Thank you dr LOUAY FATOOHI and thank you Paul.

amazing, thank you Paul and Louay

Doctor Fatoohi is such an engaging personality, a rare quality in this age . He Epitomizes the Quraanic injunction of wining them over with beautiful speech, Alhamdh.

it's super very well explained there is great skill in this work, thank to both of you

Outstanding presentation. Thank you for the effort

JazakAllah Khair very beneficial discussion ❤️

Thank you Dr Louay Fatoohi ... I have learnt so much from you ... your analysis is most clear, scholarly, academic and enlightening .... thank you again ... may Allah gives you and gives Dr Paul William (the presenter) all the best of health and guide you both (and myself) to the truth ....

Assalamu’alaikoum wr wb. Your channel is truly an amazing source of knowledge.. I also like the quality of the comments. Some topics are highly debatable but the way you present them leads to very intresting discussions. jazakAllah khairan.

I applaud you Sir, among all your posts which triggering atheists at all level, you still dedicate your time for these interviews.

I knew this all along. Thank you for confirming my notions through scripture.

Your channel has become a forum for comparative religion. Onward and upward!

Salam brother Paul, may Allah protect u and ur family.

*A Subtle Point which Muslim Imams and Church failed to grasp from centuries:* *A Man is nailed on Cross, and he died on the Cross = This is Crucifixion.* *_A Man is nailed on the Cross but was removed from the Cross before his death = Then he is NOT CRUCIFIEED. That what, Noble Quran tells in 4:157_*

Great discussion. Really impressed by the presentation of the guest speaker

I am still inclined to believe the substation theory. Reasons being..... 1. Several aHadith about the return of Isa (as) at the end of times and leading the Muslims. It would be a new and unprecedented situation to have someone come back from the dead to lead the people. Possible I suppose. But not inclined to believe it. 2. To me the main word in the 4-157 is the word ‘them’. Made to appear to ‘them’. Who is them? It seems ‘them’ should be referring to the jews who were trying to kill Isa (as). That doesn’t mean the rest of the people living in the time were tricked. They could have been fully aware that Isa (as) was not killed. We just don’t know. The historical accuracy of the time period is not strong. By our own Hadith standards all their history would be considered weak ahadith at best. 3. Allah reemphasizes that ‘they killed him not’. Saying it twice. And also says those who differ are following conjecture and are full of doubts. The main argument and discussion on the matter has been was Isa (as) killed or not. Not who did it. For Allah to emphasize that he was not killed seems to lend to the idea that he isn’t dead. Not that the jews didn’t kill him. What does following conjecture and being full of doubts have to do with who killed him ? That isn’t something people have been arguing about and discussing for years. Now, whether he is dead or not? Yes. That is the main discussion. And discussed often. I find it less likely Allah reiterates ‘for a surety they killed him not’ to refer to the lesser point of contention. The supposed scholars claiming Esa عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ was crucified are being purposely ignorant and borderline blasphemous. Probably more than borderline.

Great presentation. Thank you, Paul.

Masha Allah thank you all for doing good job

Thanks so much for this very informative lecture. Great work well done ! جزاك الله خيرا وجعلها في ميزان حسناتكم

Q 2:154 And say not of those who are killed in the Way of Allah, "They are dead." Nay, they are living, but you perceive (it) not. Q 3:144 And Muhammad is merely a messenger. Indeed, messengers from before him passed away. So if he died or is slain, will you then turn back on your heels? ... So Dr. Fatoohi is absolutely right in that the Qur'an distinguishes between passing away by natural causes, and being killed or murdered. I want to take this opportunity to draw attention to something interesting related to this topic, but I believe not many Muslims are aware of. Q 19:2-7 A mention of the Mercy of your Lord to His slave Zakariya. When he called to his Lord; a secret call. He said: "My Lord! Indeed, my bones have weakened, and my head flared white, and I have not been unblessed in my supplication to You, my Lord. And indeed, I fear for the successors after me, and my wife is barren. So give to me from Yourself an heir. Who will inherit from me and will inherit from the Family of Yacub. And make him pleasing, my Lord." "O Zakariya! Indeed, We give you glad tidings of a boy, his name is to be Yahya; We have not assigned this name prior to this." Q 19:12-15 "O Yahya! Hold the Book with strength." And We gave him the wisdom when he was a child. And affection from Us, and purity, and he was righteous. And dutiful to his parents, and he was not a rebellious tyrant. And peace upon him the day he was born, and the day he dies, and the Day he will be raised alive! So, did you catch that? Yahya's case is the same as Eesa's. Allah says "..the day Yahya dies", and He does not say "..the day he was killed by Herod Antipas". Yahya(as) wasn't executed. The Christian sources claim that John the Baptist was beheaded by some idiot ruler, at the behest of princess Herodias. Antipas motives in this are immoral and perverse. John's head is then presented on a golden platter during a feast. The Qur'an clearly contradicts this narrative by stating that Yahya(as) wasn't executed, i.e. he wasn't killed, murdered, slain or martyred. Look at Zakariya's supplication to Allah. Zakariya(as) says he fears for his successors after him. He doesn't have a son, so he's asking Allah for a son to succeed him, so that the bloodline of Yacub continues. Allah grants him(as) his request. Yahya(as) will inherit from the Family of Yacub, but what does all of that matter if Yahya(as) is executed? The line will be cut off anyway. There's more to it than that. Look at how Allah describes Yahya(as) from verse 12 to 15. Pay attention to the form of the verbs. Every line is in the past tense. These verses is Allah SWT informing Muhammad(saw), and us, indirectly, of past events. Why then the sudden shift in verse 15? "Peace was on Yahya the day he was born" is the last verse that refers to these events in the past. "The day he dies and the Day he will be raised alive" are both future tense. This isn't in the past anymore, it's in Muhammad's future(saw) now. Meaning that Yahya(as), like Eesa(as) hasn't died yet. He certainly wasn't executed, that's for sure. Now I know this might sound controversial, but think about it.. What's so special about a name that Allah has pre-ordained the boy's name, and specifically mentions that there's something unique about his name? Names have meaning. It's not so much that the unique thing about it is that nobody before was named Yahya, but it's something about what his name means that is unique. Allah's names are also His attributes, right? So what meaning does the name Yahya have? In the meaning of the name, there's a clue. There's something about his name that implies a prolonged life. When was Yahya(as) ever accused of being a tyrant? Any historical sources for that? No. None. Then why is Allah clearing him(as) of such an accusation? Isn't it true that during the Isra wa Miraaj, Muhammad(saw) was transported to the higher heavens, and in each heaven, he(saw) met with a prophet? Except when he(saw) visited the second heaven; there were two whom he(saw) saw there: Eesa(as) and Yahya(as). And Eesa(as), we know, was alive, as Allah informs us that he(as) was not killed by his enemies, but that Allah, instead, raised him(as) towards Himself. Now, Allah is not in a place, so this expression is like referring to the Kaaba as "the House of Allah", while Allah does not dwell in a house. Rather, Allah's name is linked to the Kaaba because of the House's high status. Likewise, the second heaven is referred to as a place of importance. And the fact that Eesa(as) can be alive and well in the second heaven is further evidenced by the fact that Muhammad(saw) was alive and well when he(saw) visited that realm. In other words; death is not a requirement to exist in that place. And Allah provides for Eesa(as) in everything he(as) needs. Eesa(as) will eventually return, and when he(as) does, Islam will be the only Deen that is going to be accepted from the people of the whole world. All other ideologies and beliefs will be rejected with a complete rejection. Could it be then, in light of the aforementioned, that "rebellious tyrant" is a reference to a description that the people in the future will accuse Yahya(as) of? There are striking parallels between Eesa(as) in the Qur'an, and Yahya(as). There is no mentioning however of Yahya(as) returning along with Eesa(as) in the literature, for as far as I know, but I think all of this is food for thought, and there's more that can be said about this, but this suffices. And Allah, Blessed and Exalted is He, knows best.

Thank you Paul for this wonderful presentation. Rationality and basic common sense are so prevalent in Dr Fatoui’s presentation that they cannot be ignored. Al Hamdu lilah… May Allahu swt bless Dr Farouk for such a simple yet most reassuring presentation on this topic. I look forward to many more like this. Thank you Paul. May the blessings of Allahu swt be with you always.

Wow. Allahu Akbar!! May Allah SWT bless you both.

Alhamdulillah for your guys knowledge ✨️ hope more people will watch this video 📹

Brother paul you doing amazing work

34:12 Paul let me answer your question … “why this niche Ismaili sect comes up with alternative meanings for everything “ *answer is they believe in batni interpretation (esoteric) interpretation of quranic verses, which to me is problematic*

Dear Paul thank you very much for your work. According to the Bible, Deuteronome 21:22-23, we read : "If a man does a crime for which the punishment is death, and he is put to death by hanging him on a tree; Do not let his body be on the tree all night, but put it to rest in the earth the same day; for the man who undergoes hanging is cursed by God; so do not make unclean the land which the Lord your God is giving you for your heritage." I think God saved Jesus (pbuh) from this curse. Because it is a law of God. And in the Qur'an, Allah also asked to crucify a person who commits disorder against God (Sura 5:33). Since the Jews were applying the law of the Torah on an innocent person (Jesus -pbuh-), Allah therefore saved Jesus(pbuh) from this crucifixion because he did not deserve this. For the Jews, Jesus was preaching other words other than those which were in the Torah, - i.e., those that Moses and the prophets who came after him left -, so it was normal for them to think of crucifying him in order to respect the commandment of God. Except that they are the ones who did not understand the language of Jesus, because they had a hard heart. Allah made their hearts hard and they did not understand anything. As far as I'm concerned, I think it's not so good for Muslims to argue about the crucifixion of Jesus. Since Allah has made it clear in the Qur'an that anyone who has argued about it (about the crucifixion) is in error (sourah 4:157). Allah is the only one who knows what really happened. All I know is that Jesus is not dead yet and will die when Allah brings him back to Earth. Allah made it clear that all the people of the book (especially Jews and Christians) will believe in him before his death (4:159). Many people say that Jesus died. They are in error and they have denied the clear proofs that Allah has given us in the Qur'an. Jesus never tasted death. May Allah reward you and all those who seek the truth.

The problem of course is that the crucifixion of Jesus is the most certain thing we know about him even according to the most sceptical NT scholars and historians.

Thanks for discussion. I have a question from 4:157 quoted: _and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him-it was only made to appear so._ I do not understand why Jews did not like Jesus if they believed "... Messiah, ..., the messenger of Allah. "

Cute how it looks like theyre in the same room

One of the sharp differences between the Qur'an and the Bible version is that the Qur'an elevates the prophets to their rightful places which were previously sometimes put out of place according to various versions of the Bible story and the Qur'an also provides the fact that the prophets protected their life from injustice. 🙏

What a riveting argument - thank you Dr Fatoohi and Thankyou Paul - you are so good at conducting these talks - May Allah Bless you both

Assalam Alaykum and thank you both Paul and Dr Louay. Very thorough and concrete in conclusion. At first I felt a bit disorientated, Paul... I was looking for you on the left of the screen. 😂😂😂

JazakAllah, thank you for explaining a clear issue that some modern scholars had brought senseless confusion upon.

Who died on the cross? Was it 1 or 3?

this is so academic and it should be paid for watching it. so professional and high level of analysis , really thanks a lot.

Paul has successfully bagged in a golden conversation.

Yes.

Very interesting and at times hair raising disclosure! Some new way of looking? Not quite "Historical Critical Method" used by some scholars. Good balanced critical examination Arabic language, its translation, Sunni, Shia and Ahmadiyya schools of thoughts and some observations of contemporaneous non-Muslims in Arabian environment. Bit surprised no reference made to Sidney H Griffith's work and his important book "The Bible in Arabic" which was used to support the development of the Holy Quran.

FANTABULOUS ( Fantastic And Fabulous} discussion and learning materials. May ALLAH SWT blessed BOTH of You.

“Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to CRUCIFY [him]: and the third day he shall rise again”. (Matthew 20:18-19 KJV) Witnesses to the crucifixion of Jesus ; The sign above Jesus’ head on the cross named Him personally; “And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS”. (Matthew 27:37, KJV) Jesus addressed His mother and disciple (John) from the cross (John 19:26-27) . One of the Centurions looking up at Jesus on the CROSS, acknowledging Jesus as the Son of God (Matt 27:54;Mark 15:39) Joseph of Arimathea sought the body of Christ FROM the CROSS and buried Him in His tomb. (John 19:38) Thirdly , majority of scholars, including Muslims favourite non Muslim scholar, Bart Ehrman, agree, the crucifixion of Jesus is an historical fact and “beyond dispute .” Fourthly , while the Gospels were written within 35-65 years after the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus, the Quran was written almost 600 years after the events . Historians such as Tacitus mention the crucifixion of Jesus and even associating the name of Pontius Pilate (The Annals 15:44) Jewish historian , Josephus, writes “this is the Christ who was crucified by Pilate .” Lucian (Greek writer ) of Samosta records the crucifixion of Jesus in The Passing of Peregrinnus. Collectively, the facts stack in favour of the Scriptures , that Jesus WAS crucified but Muslims would rather be live a man who NEVER met Jesus and accounts written almost 600 years + after he events . Unbelievable 🤦‍♂️

This talk is of much significance. Kudos to Paul Sir The honorable mainstream scholors who argued in favour of crucifixtion be it Muhammad abdu, Rashid Rida or Sir Sayyed have one thing in common, they all belong to era of peak of colonialism and they all had a urge to reform muslim communities in lines of europe. Agreement and common terms with christanity were essential in doing that. They are not to blame but one has to recongnise sort of colonial prejudices in their interpretations

Hey Paul, I've never read the Quran so this presentation is important. To me, as a Christian believer, the most important subject is not IF Jesus was crucified., but WHY? I think that no matter who we are, Muslims or Christians ( or another religion), we should concentrate on the reasons why Jesus would have been obedient to God the Father and accept death on a cross. Assuming Jesus was historically crucified, we need to dig deeper into the scriptures that reveal why Jesus was crucified. Do you think Muhammed himself accepted the idea that Jesus was crucified? I really appreciate this presentation. Peace

It would be good if u had a discussion with professor Iyad Qunaibi about atheism and evolution

Thanks!

Islam is a unifier of all religion for the entire humanity

crucifixion or cruci-fiction?? If someone hang on the cross but do not die on the cross! Can we call it crucifixion?? There is no English word for this type of situation!! So Quran is very accurate cause quran says it was not crucifixion!! they thaught it was crucifixion!!

Do not understand what precisely this man wants to say.????

47:06 Very interesting point in form of question Louay is giving here, yet I have seen many christians are so meek with atheists and other religions but not with Islam which is the only religion (aside of christianity itself) belief in Jesus , his mother, his miracles, his comming before end of time!! it raises astonishment they are like that with muslims. (all not but many)

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Thank you so much, it is academic and respectful.

Dear Brother Paul Assalaamu Alaikum May Allah reward you for presenting such informative and educational programmes. Your choice of guest speakers is superb.May Allah Bless Dr.Fatoohi too.He has put with proofs what is considered to be a controversial topic beyond doubt I always look forward to such programmes. With best wishes. From South Africa.

Who did the women see at the tomb? Mark: a young MAN sitting at the side of the tomb Mathew: An ANGEL sitting on the rock outside the tomb Luke: TWO MEN standing inside the tomb!! John: Magdalene ALONE a woman!! then she returns LATER with 2 DISCIPLES + TWO Angels!!

1:00:45 A verse from the Holy Qur'an-- counterintuitive? You sure, brother Paul? Yes, we are to "come to common terms" with the ahley kitab alright, but not at the expense of any verse of the Holy Qur'an; for each and every verse in it is of divine utterance and therefore, true. If Allah says crucifixion did not take place, then surely it did not take place. As simple as that. No room for doubt or confusion. 🤲 Ihdinas seratul mustakim. Aameen.

Mash Allah beautiful explaining

Just a small point for the doctor. Please do not use red, green and blue in presentations as it is not legible for those of us who are colour blind. You can find online alternative colour accessible colours. Thank you. I will edit this tomorrow inshallah with a link for them.

Speculation about a possibly historical figure (jesus) from the point of view Islam. That is so very objective and truth-seeking.

This was worth listening too.

Another valuable discussion Great Job brother Pual👍

Great presentation by Dr. Fatoohi. I've read several works of his and have found them all to be very insightful. However, I think there is a major problem which he isn't really addressing here. The discussion of whether Jesus was crucified or not shouldn't be happening in a vacuum. It must include the fact that Jesus was thought to have been crucified by all of his disciples. For this we have undeniably strong evidence within NT literature. From Paul's authentic letters, it's clear that everyone, including Peter and Jesus' brother James and the rest of his followers believed that Jesus had been crucified and was dead. Ok so perhaps they were simply unaware for some reason that their beloved teacher hadn't actually been killed. But then another issue arises. James, Peter, John and the others all claimed that God had raised Jesus. So why is this an issue? Well, as Muslims we ALSO believe that God had raised Jesus. However, we believe this was PRIOR to his crucifixion. As Muslims, how do we know God raised Jesus? Because God tells us in the Quran. However, how did James, Peter and the rest know that he had been raised? God didn't tell them right? Well clearly they knew somehow and if they knew this then it means that somehow God must have intervened in some miraculous way to let them know that he had been raised. But despite knowing that God had raised Jesus, they all believed and indeed proclaimed that the crucifixion happened and that Jesus had indeed died. So now this becomes very strange. If they knew that God had miraculously raised Jesus, why would they also say that he had died first? Wouldn't they have known that he was already raised prior to the crucifixion? Well apparently not. So the only reasonable solution as a Muslim is to say that after Jesus' arrest, God raised Jesus up and somehow no one realizes this. Then, everyone including his family, disciples, and opponents are fooled into thinking that Jesus was crucified. Then God reveals to Jesus' family & disciples that actually I raised Jesus up, but doesn't mention the fact that Jesus wasn't actually crucified. So now these poor disciples continue on mistakenly thinking that Jesus had indeed been crucified and spend the rest of their lives trying to convince other Jews (with almost no success) that even though Jesus had in fact died, he was still the messiah. Personally, that scenario just doesn't make much sense to me. I will say that personally, I don't really see any issue reading the crucifixion verse as only a rejection of the claim of the prophet's Jewish opponents that it was Jews who had killed Jesus. What modern scholarship has made abundantly clear, and perhaps the Quran itself here is alluding to as well, is that the Jews in fact DIDN'T kill Jesus. Crucifixion was Roman punishment. Technically speaking, he was killed by Romans. Over the decades and centuries after Jesus' death, Christians gradually shifted all of the blame on to Jews to the point that everyone then and now actually thinks that Jews killed Jesus. So it has been made to appear as if they had killed him, but they didn't. Romans did though. So now everything makes sense. Jesus isn't killed by Jews (something both the Quran and Christians can agree on), then God raises him (something both Muslims and Christians agree on), and the disciples find out that Jesus has been raised by God (again something we know as Muslims and they knew through visionary experiences apparently). But as Dr. Fatoohi says, at the end of the day, as a Muslim it doesn't really matter to us theologically whether or not Jesus died on the cross. But I think Muslims do need to better understand and address the events that took place immediately following Jesus' death. That is, why his disciples and own brother would have said that he was raised AFTER his death.

Whilst we can agree with what is described as 'the inerrancy of the Quran' we should also be aware of 'errancy of interpretation' and 'loss or addition in translation'. The assertion that passages of the Quran can be shown to support the denial of Jesus's death by crucifixion has to be balanced with verses in the Quran which imply that Jesus lived to old age on earth after the crucifixion event ( in Khwaja Nazir Ahmad's Jesus in Heaven on Earth). If the Quran says that Jesus was not killed through crucifixion, it is not only possible but also probable that Jesus was placed on the cross but survived the ordeal. This means that Jesus was not crucified since he did not pass the test for expiration of mortal life while on the cross or in the tomb.

Quran points out that the church will not be able to pull out definitive evidence to defend the crucifixion. _And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain._ (Quran 4.157)

*Noble Quran never says that Jesus was Crucified. Quran powerfully denies Crucifixion of Jesus but Quran never denies nailing of Jesus on the Cross. Know that DEATH ON CROSS is a binding condition of Crucifixion. If person is nailed but removed from Cross, alive; HE IS NOT CRUCIFIED 4:157. Those who say: that Quran never denies Crucifixion are the Greatest Liars of Universe.*

If the jews and Christians say that Islam is a false religion, they are also automatically saying that their religions are false as well. In the bible, God made a promise to Hagar and Abraham that he would make the descendants of Ishmael a great nation. Arabs, descendants of Ishmael became a great nation only through Islam. When the world was drowned in polytheism of the trinity, Islam restored the pure and strict monotheism of abrahamic faith. The Bible says that God will bless those who bless Abraham. The muslims are the ones who bless Abraham most daily in every prayer.

Crucifixion did take place and it appeared to most people that Jesus was on the stake. In reality it was not him. Jesus was indeed raised to heaven and the person that was on the stake was one of his disciples. He was made to appear similar to Jesus. My conclusion.