Does This 500BHP Revo Mapped Audi TTRS Really Make The R8 Redundant? (Review And Drive)
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4 жыл бұрынWhenever you talk about the Audi R8, discussion of the TT is soon to follow. Everyone knows the TTRS is quicker than the old V8 R8, and here in 500bhp guise the little pocket rocket is nearly as quick as the modern V10s too - but is it really as special to drive, or merely a hollow imitation?
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@dimitrist3561 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a TT, now well into my 40’s. After a life on superbikes, you just have to appreciate the sense of safety an Audi has. They are so planted and handle like a dream. Stops on demand and that Quattro will go around corners like you wouldn’t expect it. Some of the safest cars around, if you’re my age coming home late from work, they’ll take care of you. Audi’s really are amazing cars.
@motomarmot6544 2 жыл бұрын
Did you get an RS and what year? I have superbikes and was wanting something similar experience wise
@reecedabeast4439 4 жыл бұрын
The most honest and educated car journalist, excellent review!
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@8000audiolab 4 жыл бұрын
my friend has the 367bhp 2016 rs3 and you have to be in one of the 5cyl’s to realise how fast they are, i have a 335d 370bhp and i am blown away! the way it picks up is astonishing...reviewers say they are fast but you need to be in one at full pelt to really appreciate how fast they really
@user-el2zj3pw5r 4 жыл бұрын
Is it stock rs3?
@MegaRockstar48 4 жыл бұрын
Had a coupe version for 3 months now and I love its Jekyll and Hyde nature....put it in comfort mode and it’s quiet and soft, just like a normal TT......flick it into dynamic mode and it becomes a snarling beast that few cars can keep pace with
@dennisb5319 4 жыл бұрын
The speed your doing does'nt mean anything, it's how quick it gets there that is surprising.
@alanthomson7728 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos have a very 80s feel to them
@zzhughesd 4 жыл бұрын
No bad thing sir. Slick production or decent content. Content first
@richardlawes8893 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the shirts!
@zzhughesd 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Lawes now now
@tonywalters5396 4 жыл бұрын
I run a mapped TT RS Cab in blue as a weekend car and it is just so much fun. Forget speed and it is the acceleration. Just as you said, a quick look at the speedo reminds you how expensive points on your license can be!
@seinsmeld13 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 RS3 and we previously had TT and a TTS. I also have a 2020 718 Spyder. My Spyder is garaged for the winter. I can't wait for the spring to arrive yo get my Spyder back on the road. Cheers mate.😁
@davidkennedy1077 4 жыл бұрын
Very, very nice car! You are spot on about the soundtrack too, it sounds truly epic. That soundtrack reminds me of the old insane Group B racers, which is fine praise indeed!
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
Shame it drives nothing like the old ur quattros of the 80s.
@davidkennedy1077 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgeapplegate2091 dunno, the Quattros engine was way out front, front biased and AWD so there are plenty of similarities. Although the technology involved is in a different league nowadays, so I reckon the TT would be a much nicer and refined experience.
@ItsDanLatham 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent car, would love to get my hands on one of these, or the more practical RS3 Saloon. I prefer the styling of the RS3 saloon but I can imagine the racket this thing makes with the top down is epic in the flesh. Great two car garage this owner has.
@motomarmot6544 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review
@julianevans9548 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the half-century, James - richly deserved. Biggest problem I have with the R8 is that they made it look the same as the TT (mk 1 R8 was much better in that regard). Nothing to do with the various tired cliches about TTs, just the disappoinment if you owned an R8 at how similar they look.
@Tracertme 4 жыл бұрын
The problem the R8 owner had was it looks like a big TT but it drives very differently.......the R8 is the best supercar ever made....you can keep your Italian jobs....You don't buy an R8 to impress people, you buy it to drive and please yourself... A very different sports car owner... with taste....
@julianevans9548 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tracertme It might well be all of those things, but Audi could still make it look a bit different from the TT.
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
The R8 is surprisingly underwhelming when you actually own one.
@Ash-928 4 жыл бұрын
I'd rather an original V8 R8 over the current V10, I don't care if it's slower, it has more charm and it's manual.
@mynameisrupert184 4 жыл бұрын
the v10 comes in manual too
@mynameisrupert184 4 жыл бұрын
gen1 only
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
Bigger repair bills too.
@andrewpattie358 4 жыл бұрын
Good review 👍car sounds glorious. my friend has the r8 v8 and I find it amazing that new sports cars and even sport saloons r the same speed as a 10/15 year old super car still think the r8 looks better than the TTRS but the tt is probably a load cheaper to run 😄
@jonathanstamp 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 50k
@owenh1713 4 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews.. They're a total BS-Free zone.
@eddiericks6554 Жыл бұрын
This car is on my to do list for sure just need to make room for it and convince the wife 😊
@duviday 4 жыл бұрын
"It doesn't feel like a 500hp car until you see what speed you're doing" So what's the bloody point then? To lose your licence faster? If this is the case, then you might as well just have a standard one.
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
A fair point, and you will see in my other videos I am a proponent of experience over speed
@russellbrown8377 4 жыл бұрын
Wherr can i find your outtro track!!!!
@jamesf8864 4 жыл бұрын
Great point about a drop top chilling you out behind slow drivers. I hadn't appreciated that until buying my first convertible a couple of years ago, but they definitely have that talent 👌
@jamesf8864 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgeapplegate2091 I think everyone would if the money was available and the R8 was practical enough for their needs 😉
@jamesf8864 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgeapplegate2091 Having owned a Mk2 TT for three years and seriously considered a Mk1 R8, I absolutely am saying that the TT is massively more practical. The two don't even compare on that front. I drove two road bikes, a 6 ft 5 in mate and weekend luggage for both of us 200 miles each way for a trip into Wales. Somehow I don't think the R8 could achieve that 😂
@jamesf8864 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgeapplegate2091 and yes, everything was inside the car (no roof rack). The R8 barely has space for a holdall in the frunk, so it could only have been a second car for me. Fuel economy would also have dictated that.
@jamesf8864 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgeapplegate2091 Haha you don't need to guess at my finances based on one of my daily cars from 5 years ago, but thanks all the same 😘
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesf8864 Not much doff in economy between 2.5t and V8
@MadelnMachines 2 жыл бұрын
Is it worth having a FWD sports car / drivers car? Is it exciting or just a nice fast cruiser? The interior seems identical to a normal TT but with the diamond seats.
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
AWD.
@TheWretchedWorld 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that they killed the tt off depresses me
@amdaman3 4 жыл бұрын
I'd pick a Gen1 R8 V10 manual over one of these every day of the week. Feel, noise, agility, aesthetics, engagement and balance are far superior, even in the first generation. The only plus in TT is the interior, and if you're too focused on that then you've missed the point.
@riverstour 4 жыл бұрын
The R8 is iconic, the TT is not!
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
The R8 wouldn’t touch this car. Good luck with the repair costs of an R8 that old too.
@1950bobster 8 ай бұрын
"agility"🤣
@TheSaint491 3 жыл бұрын
Still prefer the mk2 rs coupe with a manual. Because of course
@ImBarryScottCSS 4 жыл бұрын
God I would love to stick that engine in an Elige.
@davidkennedy1077 4 жыл бұрын
That would make a truly insane driving experience, sounds like an amazing idea!
@julianevans9548 4 жыл бұрын
Would it fit? I always thought the ideal would be a 911 GT3 engine - no idea if that would fit either: I know literally nothing about mechanics.
@zaink7037 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't they a little tail happy? I'd be looking at improving handling mods if I put that sort of engine in it.
@jareknowak8712 2 жыл бұрын
Use Volvo inline 5 turbo instead.
@Loopsrainforest 4 жыл бұрын
This 5 cyl in the Golf R please.
@chrisogrady28 4 жыл бұрын
If my recent acquisition of a turbocharged car has taught me anything, it's that there's no replacement for displacement. The spikey, uneven, power delivery of forced induction genuinely makes me feel ill. Peak power and/or toque means very little to how a car feels to drive. An old R8 V10 manual spyder is on my bucket list for sure, and you could get one for £50k, pretty sure they'll appreciate too.
@jasonjuggler3457 4 жыл бұрын
Your comment sounds like something from the 1990's
@chrisogrady28 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonjuggler3457 well I am from the 1990's
@francobanzini665 4 жыл бұрын
The torque spread is pretty wide on a 2.5 5 pot Will pull from 2000rpm but really starts to work at 3000 It’s not a diesel after all!
@chrisogrady28 4 жыл бұрын
Franco Banzini I need to drive a larger engined turbo engine to see how it feels. It’s a Giulietta 1.35l turbo I’ve been driving recently, it develops a lot of torque in one big lump around 3k after turbo spool, but it’s so short lived and just spins the front wheels. Yet it doesn’t make enough low down power to set off in 2nd gear, and becomes breathless at about 5k. I hate it so much, I’ve driven NA cars with a worse power to weight ratio that feel much faster because of the broader power band and response. I’m looking at old BMWs to replace it and fancy an N52 NA 3.0, I wonder if the twin turbo N54 is still smooth to drive unlike my Giulietta, if it still has a big progressive power band I’d consider that. The 1st gear pull in the Giulietta is honestly stupid, it’s so unbelievably badly setup.
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
£50k. Good luck with the maintenance bills that’ll add at least half on top of that again. You’ve clearly never driven a modern turbocharged car either. I don’t miss my naturally aspirated V8 in the slightest.
@WilliamStevens007 4 жыл бұрын
Can't really compare them if your honest, Ones a mid-engine supercar, One is a front-engined car that's been tweaked. End of comparison !!! But it does sound glorious though. Those 5 pot engines are awesome sounding things.
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
And the TTRS will destroy the R8 in most road conditions.
@Harpreet06 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny you say its a RS3 convertible, as an RS3 owner, I'd prefer if they actually made an RS3 convertible similar to the S3 cabriolet, because I don't like the TTRS looks. Especially the rear.
@davisflyer Жыл бұрын
I have an A3 Cab with a tune. Plenty of power. Not RS power, but plenty nonetheless. If I'm honest, just like the reviewer said, when the top is down, I don't really care if I'm going slow.
@lukasuton2433 4 жыл бұрын
R8 based on galardo TT on golf mk IV
@djmaxwell1325 3 жыл бұрын
No it's based on the MKVII
@skylerssupercarlife348 4 жыл бұрын
Is this 500hp off of just a tune?
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
Turbo petrol cars 'general' rule of thumb is 30% of current power on top, depending on a few factors , surprised it didn't make more. Probably make 550+ without cats, nice manifold etc. Not that you'd wanna do that to a primarily fwd car.
@djmaxwell1325 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgeapplegate2091 You realise you can shift the power so the TTRS works as a primarily RWD car
@davisflyer Жыл бұрын
@@georgeapplegate2091 These cars have ZERO problem putting down that kind of power because of the AWD system. I know, because I have one.
@KING0SISQO 4 жыл бұрын
It’d feel 500hp if it had a roof on. Too much aero drag.
@kellypaws 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds fantastic, as most 5s do. But the TT, a car always hinting of haridressierness, is excessively Trevor Sorbie as a cabrio.
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
Front lead, understood, but no understeer - find that a bit hard to believe.
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
By the time you find understeer in this, you were going *way* too fast
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars I had one Jay and believe me it would in the wet. It also had a really bad weight distribution from memory.
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgeapplegate2091 *everything* is going to either understeer, or oversteer eventually. My Elise understeered in the wet, and that was actually for the opposite reason the TT does - it didn't have enough weight over the front. I've driven 911s which understeer.
@8000audiolab 4 жыл бұрын
are!
@zzhughesd 4 жыл бұрын
Sunny.
@matthewcoupeofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Even if this had a million brake horse power the R8 stock will always be head and shoulders abover a TT with a 2.5 dropped in
@Vazin 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I wonder why?
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm.inclined to agree.
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
No it won’t. The stock TTRS is quicker than a stock R8 on most road conditions.
@lukasuton2433 4 жыл бұрын
I like early v8 manila r8 new are ugly and no stock shift
@paganelus 4 жыл бұрын
I'm the only one that saw that idiot in the Galaxy almost crashing into the Jag up-front?
@Zsword92 4 жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@parksupasta2712 Жыл бұрын
Does anything make an NA V10 redundant!?....maybe an NA V12...
@1950bobster 8 ай бұрын
Usually maintenance bills...
@Jabber-ig3iw 4 жыл бұрын
Can you get one without a fartbox?
@jacobpablo13 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah just keep it in Drive mode and it doesn’t sound loud at all. It only sounds like this in sport mode
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
It's a horrid noise isn't it ?!
@jacobpablo13 4 жыл бұрын
G A do you own one? Or just making a comment about something you know nothing about?
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobpablo13 I owned one. Sold it.
@mrlilmatt123 4 жыл бұрын
it *DOES* under-steer, ask Mr Harris on that one!
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
Any car when you reach its limit has to either under or over steer. On track maybe it is issue. Not on the road.
@mrlilmatt123 4 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars Only so far you can take it on the road, especially with that power! Makes sense
@riverstour 4 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars I'm surprised people still use that argument when looking at cars, been an audi owner for donkeys years, pushed them all hard and its never ever been an issue!
@Djwatzy 4 жыл бұрын
I think they sound rubbish at low RPM and sing beautifully higher up. The old Quattro sounded better and even Volvo T5's did, in my opinion of course 🤣
@maybelive765 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that makes me dislike the TT-RS is that its supposed to be the direct spiritual successor to the S1 sport quattro and S2. This doesnt even come close I presume. They're also pretty expensive out of the gate and personally I cant see what is the target audience purchasing it used and has only a small segment in the new market here in canada. I just want a successor to the S1 Sport Quattro that we can all enjoy!!!! Audi where the fuck are you!!!!
@MrGB1999 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say any similarities start to erode when we're talking about the RWS R8. TTs and the like will always tend to understeer at the limit but a proper RWD mid engine will always enable to tuck in and create your own angle (roundabouts always being the way to figure this out). Does sound cheeky though and it'd be a nice departure from a V10s pretty chronic drinking habit..
@bbpleg 4 жыл бұрын
Fwd golf with a nice engine, auto box, rap that doesn’t switch off, .. no thx. Something with an NA engine, manual box, rwd, maybe mid engines but not a must... hmm Elise, cayman, m2... yes please :)
@bbpleg 4 жыл бұрын
@ rwd is underrated
@djmaxwell1325 3 жыл бұрын
Cayman is a 4cyl so not exactly a nice engine and also if those are your only cars good luck in the snow and the wet
@djmaxwell1325 3 жыл бұрын
And no it's not front wheel drive and probably has a nicer interior than that Elise
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
All the cars you list are slower than this car.
@zzhughesd 4 жыл бұрын
Needs be a tin top not rag top
@grahamtricker4103 4 жыл бұрын
Except, it doesn't look like an R8, and it doesn't sound like one either. Its sounds more like a Subaru...
@jamesf8864 4 жыл бұрын
Inline five engines naturally sound like half a V10. I think that was his point.
@julianevans9548 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesf8864 And really don't sound like a boxer four.
@ImBarryScottCSS 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds nothing like a scooby what are you smoking?
@papa_pt 4 жыл бұрын
shit weight distribution, fwd based, transverse front engine....
@MD-uu5nt 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds nothing, and I mean nothing...like a boxer engine. You must be deaf.
@papa_pt 4 жыл бұрын
only a real nut job brings up the TT when you're talking about R8's
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
It happens all the time
@Jabber-ig3iw 4 жыл бұрын
An R8 presents the wrong image but a shouty mcshoutface bright red TT roadster doesn’t?
@pj9375 4 жыл бұрын
I'd much rather buy a first gen r8 for the money. Much better looking and a bonefide supercar. Proper occasion everytime. This is just a bit marmite for me... Not my cuppa.
@zaink7037 4 жыл бұрын
Do love the first gen R8. Surprised I've seen them for around £35k for the V8. Only thing is though several cars have become faster than it over the years. The audi S8 for example and this TTRS. Its a tricky choice.
@jacobpablo13 4 жыл бұрын
And 10 times more expensive to maintain a year. Loved having an R8 for many years, but getting in this everyday makes me just as happy
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
People have no clue about the maintenance costs of such an old R8.
@SNORKYMEDIA 4 жыл бұрын
First - hahahhaha
@fairygodbrother 4 жыл бұрын
If it came equipped with some kind of face cover then I would drive it for 2 reasons. 1. I still find audi tts a bit embarrassing just like an Mx5 and 2. For everyone else so they don't have to look at my face.
@fairygodbrother 4 жыл бұрын
@pfft window tints for me it's more convenient
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
Jealousy at its finest.
@ashproctor577 2 жыл бұрын
Drives a Lexus… say no More.
@Jabber-ig3iw 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but every other car on the road is a TT.
@1950bobster 8 ай бұрын
5 pots that common?
@stephenSF 4 жыл бұрын
Absurd conclusion. I’ve driven both and they are simply different classes of car. There is no comparison, handling-wise, feel, presence. The experience of driving the TT most of the time is that you’re in a VW type, front wheel drive, turbocharged car. R8 owners, relax. Every TTRS driver you see would prefer to be in your car by a country mile. I can see why this presenter is taking this line of sucking up to TT owners and people who aspire to this car. There are loads more people in this demographic than those who would be in the market for an R8 so makes sense for views. What’s your next video? Why, oh, why buy a 458 when you can have a Focus RS? Ridiculous.
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
An R8 is overrated and is slower on most roads.
@davisflyer Жыл бұрын
I own a TTRS. And yes, if I could afford a new R8, I would rather have one. But for a DD, the TTRS is very nice.
@1950bobster 8 ай бұрын
You sound angry ?
@stephenSF 7 ай бұрын
@@1950bobster Angry? Lol.
@stephenSF 7 ай бұрын
@@CaptainraveLol. Enjoy your understeer, Audi boy!
@gti189 4 жыл бұрын
Does NOT look like an R8
@user-el2zj3pw5r 4 жыл бұрын
gti189 but you know what he meant, front similar styled different but similar
@leokal457 4 жыл бұрын
if you just think of going once to the track with your car youll pick the R8. Stories about the brakes do not inspire confidence
4 жыл бұрын
Personal experience or internet lore? I have no experience of the R8 personally so just curious.
@leokal457 4 жыл бұрын
@ me neither but if you look track tests for ttrs up its pretty scary! In one test the brakes didnt even last 2 Nürburgring laps. And it wasnt that just the paddle got long it went completely to the floor! The TT is a very nice car ( i drive one myself) but its more of a lowered golf than a real sportscar (at least in my opinion). Thats totally fine if you searching for a car that is perfect for everyday driving and can haul a serious amount of stuff for such a car. But with the brakes it has at the moment and had in previous TTs in my opinion it is not a true drivers car.
@machidaman 4 жыл бұрын
Or you save pennies and upgrade the brakes.
@leokal457 4 жыл бұрын
@@machidaman thats really not that easy because it seems the problem is not that the brakes themselves are bad but that the cooling is nonexisting. So you need to channel air onto the brakes and for that you need to cut bodywork. If you plan on keeping your car forever its not a big deal but if you want to sell it, many people are not going to like this
@1950bobster 8 ай бұрын
Well to a "Real" driver like yourself surely the driving expirience out weighs looking after it for the next owner... thankyou , may I have your Autograph . Sir!
@26Tackle.reviews 4 жыл бұрын
got to be a fanny to drive that around though lol get the coupe at least
4 жыл бұрын
When are you picking yours up then... and i don't mean the coupe.
@pj9375 4 жыл бұрын
@ when you put yours up for sale 😉
@26Tackle.reviews 4 жыл бұрын
Haha fanny! get a real car a bimmer m4 comp
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
@@26Tackle.reviews a slower car then, ok. Pig ugly cars too the new BMWs.
@Kraken1000 4 жыл бұрын
Come on. Take it over a speed bump at legal speeds and hear it sigh happily, rather than shatter your spine... You did look as if you were being shaken around a bit.
@hwntwww 4 жыл бұрын
No need to gesticulate- keep both hands on the wheel
@davidappleyard9544 4 жыл бұрын
Just enough room for curling tongs in the boot 👍😜
@MrRoyck10 4 жыл бұрын
All these cars that you plug your laptop and oops, it turns into 600 digital bhp with the click of a mouse cannot match the superiority of a NA engine with drive, feels and sound, these new cars disconnects the driver from the car.
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
Your stuck in the 80s.
@1970boggy 4 жыл бұрын
Owned a TT once. Got absolutely slammed by every motorist I encountered. Admittedly that was the old version. Purchased new in 2003 from Tonbrigde Audi Heavy slow thing
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had a 8j rs, tank. Nice engine,.wrong application
@1970boggy 4 жыл бұрын
- wouldn’t be able to keep up !
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
TTRS 0-60 in 3.5s and AWD. A bit of rain and nothing will get close.
@Bd-ox4mi Жыл бұрын
Hair dressers car that’s all I see …men look 👀 ridiculous in a tt
@ImBarryScottCSS 4 жыл бұрын
MQB rubbish. Entire engine in front of the front axle, great for a hatch, rubbish for a sports car.
@francobanzini665 4 жыл бұрын
Have you driven one?
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve clearly never driven one.
@danielthomas2621 4 жыл бұрын
I can see why it was a failure, it is so vanilla.. Like all Audi's it's boring....I'll stick to my turbo mx5...now that's driving fun ...
@georgeapplegate2091 4 жыл бұрын
Always understeering dynamically inert
@Jabber-ig3iw 4 жыл бұрын
Whilst as a fellow Mx5 owner I partially agree with you however my V8 Audi isn’t boring.
@francobanzini665 4 жыл бұрын
Have the TTRS and it’s bloody quick. Really appreciate Haldex on the shitty roads in winter and av 28mpg, 40 on a run Had a Supercharged Mk1 MX5 and it was a riot - absolutely agree it was more fun than the TTRS but as an every day car not so much - and nowhere near as quick and I barely got above 25mpg
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Thomas I'll leave any MX5 for the denial crowd and have a proper car like this Audi.
@danielthomas2621 4 жыл бұрын
Jabber 1974 fair enough mate , I guess I just don't like the design of Audi's great engines to be fair though...enjoy your mx5 cheers...
@odfkjdhgovj 4 жыл бұрын
Audi really are the cars with no personality for people with no personality.
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