DON'T BUY 21 INCH WHEELS

DON'T BUY 21 INCH WHEELS | Here's why

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- CHAPTERS -
00:00 - Biggest mistake I made on G80
01:13 - Why 19" is better than 21"
03:55 - Why did BMW do this?
04:33 - APEX VS-5RS FORGED Wheels
08:22 - What they look like!
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In today's video, it's wheel day as we discuss why we changed from running a 21" wheel to these amazing FULLY FORGED Sprint Line APEX 5S-5RS Wheels on our BMW G80 M3!
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@JohnSRR-lw4bx Жыл бұрын

The previous gen M3 and M4 CS and GTS have 19's on the front to stop understeer caused by the low profile 20's. They steer and generally handle better with 19's on the front. However, the clerance to the front brakes (specially carbon ceramics) were extremely tight. With that said, there are pros and cons with a staggered setup.

@RothBeyondTheGrave Жыл бұрын

I'm the weird one over here wondering why anyone would run wheels larger than 19's on a sedan or coupe. If it's something that is mostly tracked & barely street driven, that's one thing. But at least 50% of the roads I'm on REQUIRE 35 sidewall MINIMUM.

@dannylakatos5599 Жыл бұрын

I can’t believe you didnt do an install video on the AST springs!! You have the best DIYs and i get my car soon and AST springs are my first mod and wish you had a video for em!

@apexwheels Жыл бұрын

Love the look of the VS-5RS on your G80. Satin Black was a great move. Enjoy the wheels! -Tom

@etseuros8545 Жыл бұрын

Don’t sleep on them DSWs!💪❤️ Great choice broski!

@dylan-nguyen Жыл бұрын

My M2c has similar wheels idk the m#s but after graphene coating them (diy) I can clean with just a pressure washer 😁 As a side note please always buy the OEM BMW * marked Michelin tires. Tyre Reviews did a video where the * marked are almost as fast as Cup 2s

@TheSundaeDrive Жыл бұрын

Looking good! Time to hit the track!

@bmer_dad6733 Жыл бұрын

Amazing! I went with BCF 5 spoke. Super easy to clean.

@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын

Exactly why my new tires on my 2022 M240i are 22mm bigger in diameter(285/35/19 and 240/45/19). The only issue is slight rub lock to lock on front with 12mm spacer and H&r springs.

@anthonykreiser5298 Жыл бұрын

Those wheels look so good on that bwm!bumper!! Also thanks for the advice.

@robertshawger3966 Жыл бұрын

Running 20 inch HRE classic 305s on my G80. Looks amazing on it. Wrapped in Michelin ps4s

@F80Ho Жыл бұрын

They look amazing 🔥

@davewallace9048 Жыл бұрын

Great information!!

@Boostleaked Жыл бұрын

3.0 Mk5 Supras came with 19s from factory. I upgraded them to TE37SL but same 19 inch diameter for tremendous weight reduction with zero compromise and volks are super easy to clean compared to the thin 10 spoke oem wheels. The g80/g82 wheels look like a nightmare to keep clean. I would have replaced those quickly myself if I had one.

@TommyLGarage Жыл бұрын

Hands down the best looking wheels. Love the concave

@erich1308 Жыл бұрын

21"options are for G30 5 series and up.

@robertshaw8676 Жыл бұрын

look brilliant those alloys best choice

@8-nw-8 Жыл бұрын

The M-performance wheels (I have the bronze ones) in the back are 21” and came with Yokohamas v107 on my car. I really like the setup and the tires are fine on track.

@KiNG-tx9je Жыл бұрын

Did u get 20s up front?

@deniznarli2535 4 ай бұрын

yes@@KiNG-tx9je

@raffeal247 11 ай бұрын

I'm coming from 22's on a 300c to 20's on my 650i xDrive and it is definitely taking me some tire to get used to the look. 245/35/20's up front. I hit a pothole and blew out a tire. Now I am thinking about going to a 245/40/20 in the front and a 275/35/20 in the rear for that added sideway protection. I'm just not sure that the wheel-well will accommodate the larger tires...

@rajiv4972 Жыл бұрын

Another question, doesn’t it mess up the odd reading when wheels are upgraded in size…..my current F30 LCI 330e has 19” and dealership service team asked me not to upgrade to 20” since my care was calibrated to 19” when built! Thanks

@xlsyntoxlp4260 Жыл бұрын

I got 21 Inch Hamann Evo Anniversary Wheels on my F83 M4 and it looks stuning. Downside is that i need in the back 305 or 295 tires & they really are expensive. Handling wise it really is okey. I'm not a track guy or something. i like some curvy roads, german autobahn & doing burnouts/drifting and stuff. for burnouts the tires in the back are perfect gripwise. all in all i can't sell them because of the sexy look tbh haha.

@BeastMod001 Жыл бұрын

What oil brand do you recomend for an F82 (17).

@jay-peephillips2349 Ай бұрын

Looks super Clean, super aggressive

@edgarasminelga5463 2 ай бұрын

Hi maybe we could help you with this question? i have f30 Xdrive in this moment i use tyres 225/40/19 and 255/35/19 I wanted to put higher tires like 255/45/19 and 255/40/19 won't it hurt that 4x4 Xdrive?:) maybe you have an example of who used such images on the f30 thank you

@greg5143 Жыл бұрын

Looks fantastic! Is there a video with what you do to the suspension of this car?

@jg_media9 Жыл бұрын

Green is currently running AST springs

@rajiv4972 Жыл бұрын

Hi, Need your help please….I booked my G20 LCI MSport pro pack 330e. Unfortunately here in the UK there is no option for the 50 Jahre M badges or display key . Tow queries please - 1. Is it very difficult to remove the badges and replace them with genuine M 50 years badges or should I leave it factory! 2. Is a display key compatible with the G20 LCI. Many thanks, Rajiv.

@nlim03 9 ай бұрын

Whats the R888's tire spec on the oem bmw wheels you got there?

@RJW14 Жыл бұрын

Man BMW has been running staggered wheels on the M series for a long time , I remember with the E90 M3 GT4 car the teams that ran it actually chose to run just the rear tire on all corners to counter the understeer coming from a smaller slick tire in the front than the slick tire in the back.

@ruleslawyer Жыл бұрын

I went down to 18" on my F80 since the widest range of 200tw tires is there. 19" in the rear is a good choice for wider 300+ tires as long as you're going to stagger.

@user-ki8zf1rp1e Жыл бұрын

Even with 300+ tires you could probably still get away with an 18x11. Only problem is finding a decent offset and design. Don't think they make 18x11 forged but flow-forged is a good compromise if the roads aren't like Detroit

@4_HOSI_GP 13 күн бұрын

How is a 265/35R20 front tyre like on the front and with 295/35R21 is it useable?

@endid2525 Жыл бұрын

What lowering springs or kit did you use?

@ajohn502 Жыл бұрын

What camera did you use to record this?

@TheDailyDriven Жыл бұрын

The 826m's are definitely a paine to clean. Them Apex's 🤩🤩🤩🤩 look incredible

@1hughjanus80 Жыл бұрын

When you first put the new rims I loved them BUT the rim size was a tad to big BUT IDC I LOVE KIES

@simonh.1040 Жыл бұрын

Hi! Is it possible to add a 18 inch front and 19 inch rear for M3 competition 2021?

@sayhi2neil 7 ай бұрын

Car noobs here, would it be possible to install 21inch rims on my M340xdrive which came with 19inch rims?

@FreshlySnipes Жыл бұрын

The factory BMW wheels are the best looking wheels they have ever made imo. Love them on mine. I have the bi-color version tho, which looks fantastic.

@amessad Жыл бұрын

19s all around?... very interesting!!! I may give it a try, the more i think about it the more sense it makes!

@G82Jesse Жыл бұрын

I have Apex VS-5RS wheels for my F80 M3 in brushed clear. I absolutely LOVE these wheels!

@apexwheels Жыл бұрын

Thanks for picking up a set! -Tom

@THExKINGxKINGx Жыл бұрын

Post a vid!

@mbh6473 Жыл бұрын

How wide are the 21’s and are they for sale now?

@DerHalbeEuro 6 ай бұрын

Do i sit slightly higher with 19" inch tyres or is it the same when i buy 18" inch?

@solomonurbanski5246 Жыл бұрын

i like to know if run 295 35 19 with19 11width 12 0ffset all four tires would rub in front on 2023 g80 m3?

@coryshade8812 Жыл бұрын

Are you 20” wheels with the r888r for sale?

@austinjohnson5207 Жыл бұрын

The look lowered on 21s is so sick…. More whelk less tire is the look I love. I’d run the 21s period

@alleng012985 Жыл бұрын

Yeah...That more my style do. I'm never going down in wheel size

@ryanmattson1735 Жыл бұрын

Would the benefits in ride confort, tire size / availability, and performance continue if you went with 18's

@THExKINGxKINGx Жыл бұрын

The smaller the better in every way, yes

@stoveguy2133 Жыл бұрын

Tire brand/model SPECS determine ride “feel”. Sidewall is minor issue.

@bortforts Жыл бұрын

Meatier tires>>>rubber bands. best way to go. Great choice for the car in my opinion

@Sorry_ImTruthful Жыл бұрын

I believe the 19” in front are to help with the turning radius.. doing u-turns with bigger wheels on a sedan would be as bad as it is in a truck 🤷‍♂️

@Akintich Жыл бұрын

The overall diameter and contact patch don't change (not meaningfully anyway, most tires have slightly different diameter and width even for the same size), just the ratios of wheel size and sidewall height. You can't just change the overall wheel diameter in a modern car, that would throw off the computers and probably cause a bunch of issues. Changing the tire compound, tire width, offset and sidewall height will of course change the setup of the car, but that's the point of tuning. You just have to make an informed decision about how your car's handling characteristics might change.

@Lifeisapartydresslikeit Жыл бұрын

Nice rims!! Looks good! I have a G83 M4 and I like the stock set up and the staggered look is sexy in my opinion. The factory rims are definitely a pain to clean but I do like the look 👀.

@stefanocofresi3225 Жыл бұрын

Curious what the weight savings are

@curtomaru8077 Жыл бұрын

ive been running those same tires since i got my bmw . im on my second set

@josephfilipiak3331 Жыл бұрын

Love them on my F32

@merciless9285 Жыл бұрын

never heard of a staggered wheel setup before? pretty sure the McLaren has the same 19F/20R setup

@2k821 Жыл бұрын

apex for the win can’t go wrong!

@arneamdahlbakkevig5888 Жыл бұрын

Different diameter rims f/r is used by Porsche and many supercars (and also.on the M4 GTS). It helps balance the handling f/r and give a good compromise for what you want your front tires to do vs what you want from your rear tires. Explained in brief by BMW M in one of their pre G8x launch videos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNyjrLCKx7CRdoU.html

@JGV_IX Жыл бұрын

Just casually showing a McLarren, but the BMW stays the star of the show - this is why I love these guys 😊

@claudioagmfilho Жыл бұрын

🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Looks good. That's a great idea, lowering even more the center of gravity, that's how I think too, being a lighter wheel and all. Your car will definitely be faster now...

@KiNG-tx9je Жыл бұрын

Thnk you. Cuz. I WAS gonna get 21s. I have the zcp wheels on the f82 and there are a NIGHTMARE to clean. And way more expensive then they're worth I think

@sheridgordon9839 Жыл бұрын

The reason why bugger wheels are at the back is for more contact on the road for acceleration

@1hughjanus80 Жыл бұрын

I put 19inch Aodhan Ds08 black on mines nice thick tires

@jg_media9 Жыл бұрын

Apex for the win for sure 👌👌

@UsefAfande Жыл бұрын

Alright Bryan, let’s do it for mine 😂 Just because how easy they are to clean

@gasolara2002 Жыл бұрын

Personally the factory wheels look better to me but that is just me. But I understand you track the car so smaller and lighter is very important. I would want a new front bumper just to get rid of the pig snout.

@InfoumusMOBB Жыл бұрын

Apex in bronze/gold for 22 M240?

@parthdinubhai Жыл бұрын

when is the f80 dyno vid

@stevegivelas9769 Жыл бұрын

What are the weight difference between them all?

@stefanocofresi3225 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, wish he would’ve talked about it.

@jagayong9333 Жыл бұрын

I always thought it’s not a good idea to have staggered wheels on All Wheel Drives, equal distribution of power, unless they come staggered from the factory to handle bigger rear wheels/tire, unless you have have an Audi RS3 where the front tires are wider to get rid of their terminal understeer.

@apexwheels Жыл бұрын

These cars come with staggered wheels and tires from the factory, both in turns of widths and diameters. As long as you carefully select tires with xDrive you can run staggered setups. Square fitments do make tire selection easier though. -Tom

@Aaron-yn4bk Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure BMW knows what they are doing when they engineered this car to run the staggered set up. This isn’t their first rodeo.

@phillyphil1513 Жыл бұрын

re: "DON'T BUY 21 INCH WHEELS" oh I'm buying them pal and you can't stop me...!!! #21SFORLIFE

@b864r Жыл бұрын

Te37 for the win

@justinbuice Жыл бұрын

And here I am thinking 19’s are too big for me 😅😆

@RothBeyondTheGrave Жыл бұрын

Same! I'm not sure what kind of roads other people are driving on, but here in South Jersey I'm likely never messin with less than a 35 sidewall.

@THExKINGxKINGx Жыл бұрын

The 18s on your 340 were sick. You wish you would have gotten 18s on your gts instead of 19?

@TheEpyonz Жыл бұрын

Who puts larger wheels up front? FWD cars?

@KainSwiss Жыл бұрын

Only put 21' on Audi SUV's or VW, BMW M3 20 at the back 19 at the front or boxed 20 20 - 21' is overkill and ride will be extremely uncomfortable. Best wheels in my opinion are Edelweiss LT3's based in germany

@pikkagtr1942 Жыл бұрын

Should have slapped a set of TE37SL on it even EASIER to clean can't go wrong with an OG wheel plus it is an OG design, not a generic copy of an existing wheel

@marcv.5574 11 ай бұрын

Popular set up; bigger wheels always go in the back.

@backnunAndy Жыл бұрын

I thought that you are not chasing with lap time. It is upto people what they are looking after. Stance or Performance!

@northzider Жыл бұрын

Which spoiler is that, the M4 style?

@jg_media9 Жыл бұрын

👍

@Akac3sh 6 ай бұрын

lmao wait till he sees my 25’ setup

@ronin120 10 ай бұрын

20s in the front and 19 in the back??

@vincentgarcia2702 Жыл бұрын

I understand how people complain about having to clean their vehicles? Unless your collecting it and storing it away you shouldn’t complain. Its inevitable.

@strawboi Жыл бұрын

The discomfort from the wheel size is minimum - my RS6 has 21 inch as standard, never felt uncomfortable.

@Boostleaked Жыл бұрын

That’s because they had to over engineer the rs6 suspension system to offset how bad the ride would be otherwise. You as a the consumer will pay for it with your wallet when the system breaks at some point.

@gtiguy727 Жыл бұрын

21’s are fine. Question is what series sidewall. That’s everything to do with ride comfort.

@WhatsyourForte Жыл бұрын

Niceeee

@nycshelbygt500 Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that due to very high oil prices, performance tire prices exploded to $350-400 each. So look for holiday sales. There are also severe tire shortages in some sizes due to supply chain issues. 35 profile tires have a lot of sidewall. HaHa No.....Not for New York/New Jersey. 285/295 F/R is OK....but you might need to go wider in the rear as HP increases. X-Drive limits your options. Should have gone gold finish in the APEX Forged Wheels, since it goes so well with Isle of Man Green. Gotta ceramic coat the wheels and go ceramic brake pads for easier wheel cleaning. #TheStraightPipes recommend Continental Performance Tires, so obviously do the opposite. JK HaHa. Bryan went #FullThorRagnarok with Stan Lee on that haircut. Ouch!

@kentao4 Жыл бұрын

I need oem 19s all around.

@gigidigiardinis604 Жыл бұрын

I have 666 Wheels on F80, absolute nightmare to clean. They are always dirty.

@franksam8610 5 ай бұрын

I need 21” for my x5 m

@MiG-40i Жыл бұрын

As far as I can see in the video, you have the wrong tire dimensions on the 21-inch rim. you can clearly see that this wheel is higher than the other two because the tire cross-section corresponds to that of the 20 inch. no wonder you ripped off your wheel arch paneling.