Don't Get SCREWED on a Car Lease | 3 GOLDEN RULES to Negotiate a Car Lease

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10 ай бұрын

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Ray and Zach bring you their THREE GOLDEN RULES OF LEASING (plus bonus advice) to help you make more informed decisions when navigating the treacherous waters of leasing a car. Money factors, down payments, extended warranties...it's all here!

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@CarEdge
@CarEdge 10 ай бұрын
Here's everything you need to know about how to lease a car, and how to avoid overpaying: caredge.com/guides/leasing-a-car-in-2023
@dg-cg5gi
@dg-cg5gi 10 ай бұрын
Are you able to show a video pretending to negotiate a lease for a vehicle? That would be extremely helpful!
@dianaalyssa8726
@dianaalyssa8726 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Idk that I would lease again but it's interesting to see where it can be more expensive. Am not sure if the prenegotiated advertised deals are that bad but it would be better to do no money down. Years ago, I did a couple of leases that way. Sage advice though; Great video!
@cassandraroche9196
@cassandraroche9196 10 ай бұрын
@@dg-cg5gi I want to see this as well so bad.
@b3arwithm3
@b3arwithm3 9 ай бұрын
I don't get why the sell price is more important than the monthly payment which is what we ultimately pay? Sell price is just one of the variables and a lower sell price doesn't always translate to a lower monthly payment.😅
@jahjah6548
@jahjah6548 6 ай бұрын
Yeah and then they wind up charging you more than what you are saving anyway. Lol
@jeffreymoorbeck5039
@jeffreymoorbeck5039 10 ай бұрын
Great info! I find leasing very confusing, this information helps. Having you guys do a demo between customer and sales person for a lease would be helpful, too.
@hlmg1985
@hlmg1985 5 ай бұрын
3 years ago your tips helped me with my lease. But went back this past week and was not successful making a deal. Going back through your videos to hopefully make a deal on Atlas SE w/technology 24. Thanks for making this videos!
@brianmedved-lu9dy
@brianmedved-lu9dy 9 ай бұрын
Living in Metro Detroit here , leasing appears to be a simple process since so many qualify either for an employee discount from one of the Big 3 or another type of discount (example - Friends or supplier discount). I leased three Ram trucks between 2016-2020. The invoice showed the employee price (which I got from my dad). I always did absolutely nothing out of pocket. My most recent lease was on a 2023 Jeep Wrangler 4xe. Thanks for the great content !! 👍🏻
@blakepace
@blakepace 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic deep dive, guys, THANK YOU so much!
@jimcasso407
@jimcasso407 4 ай бұрын
Man, you guys are my new personal hero’s! Super helpful info. Thank you!
@DaveJuan72
@DaveJuan72 10 ай бұрын
best video on leasing i've ever seen! thank you!
@GlennLaycock
@GlennLaycock 10 ай бұрын
Good points, a lot of what was discussed was "oh that is true, I just never rationalized it". Here Hyundai only comes with a 5 year warranty - and 3 of that is "more deluxe" - the bonus is that it lowers the prices of cars here - likely by $2000 thereabouts from what I can perceive. It was confusing but I started to look at the hybrid version of my car and it made sense with ONE "bonus" being a lot of the warranty was extended to 8 years (on high cost items) so that got in my head. When they only had petroleum only models "with new order hybrids being not nearly at the same market pricing availability" I kind of listened to the warranty presentation more. It was around $4000 from Hyundai to make it 8 years "deluxe everything package" and they offered me employee pricing which was $2000 with taxes and fees included. It includes "refund at the end" if it is never used and cancellation refund or transfer pro-rated. All I know is that a flat tire cost me $100 to repair and it was not under "any warranty" the first year according to the service (I asked twice - when I came in and then on the paying). It was another reason to swap out the "not great" factory tires (in my opinion - but they looked fantastic at least).
@davidrokos3698
@davidrokos3698 10 ай бұрын
Just found your videos and these are so helpful, thank you so much!
@Mark-oy1wv
@Mark-oy1wv 7 ай бұрын
I have a new business idea. “Professional car lease or purchase negotiators.” For those of you who know the in’s and out’s of car lease/purchase negotiations, you could offer your services to people looking to buy/lease a vehicle but who also may not feel confident in the negotiations. You go in with the customer, sit at the desk with the customer and salesman and you negotiate the best deal for the customer. Charge a reasonable fee of $300 per negotiation for your services, which the customer would feel is money well spent in order to save yourself from getting ripped off. Do you know how many people would sign up for that??? Your welcome!😅
@CHRISTLATELPA12
@CHRISTLATELPA12 7 ай бұрын
I was literally thinking of the same idea!
@ellisprice4096
@ellisprice4096 7 ай бұрын
Real talk, they can have my $300
@Miguel-jm2pf
@Miguel-jm2pf 7 ай бұрын
God how much I wish someone like that.
@obinna202
@obinna202 6 ай бұрын
It's funny beause I've always thought about this, especially now that I'm looking to lease a new car
@jahjah6548
@jahjah6548 6 ай бұрын
You're assuming that the negotiation will be successful. If it's not, then that's another $300 and so on. Slippery slope.
@xer2441
@xer2441 10 ай бұрын
Thanks to this video and your clear explanations of these factors, I was just able to confidently negotiate with a sales manager who tried very hard to not discuss the total price of the vehicle the bank would pay or the money factor. I was able to get a $1650 discount off of msrp and a significant reduction in the money factor when he came back to me with the new numbers after my initial “not going to work for me response.” Thank you very much for advocating for the buyer and providing such valuable information when the dealers continue to not only squeeze the customer for more money, but attempt to crush them in these transactions.
@Spanluver
@Spanluver 4 ай бұрын
What do you mean by “the total price of the vehicle that the bank would pay?” Is that 14(a) part of the contract called the agreed upon value of the car? That’s before adding in DMV fees (if not paid as due at lease signing) and acquisition fee which is gross cap cost Total MSRP incl. destination fee.
@WhiteshadowTV
@WhiteshadowTV 5 ай бұрын
This is such a golden video. Thank you so much for all the help on this!
@Moonymermaidelf
@Moonymermaidelf 7 ай бұрын
I just found this video as I’m doing research for my third lease and it was very helpful thank you. Also the curly haired guy is super cute 😊 thank you for this video
@cbrue1896
@cbrue1896 10 ай бұрын
A video on residual values would be fantastic. To me, it seems like the residual value is an arbitrary number. I suspect that certain makes and even models would likely have a higher residual at the end of the lease. It would seem that the higher residual value of a vehicle at the end of the lease would mean that the vehicle has depreciated less than a vehicle with a lower residual value. A Toyota Highlander would have a higher RV vs. say a Ford Edge. One would also think that if the vehicle retains a higher RV at the end of the lease, the lease payments would be less since the car would be worth more at the end of the lease????
@axelbart7470
@axelbart7470 10 ай бұрын
First of all, you guys and your team rock 🎸 , awsome job, if its not to much trouble in another video go over what a vehicle lease agreement form is its almost has as many line entries as a federal income tax form , that would be awsome. Ooo and not all lease agreement forms are the same they different in the way all the crazy math is done. Keep rocking, im learning alot thanks to you guys and your awsome team 😊😊😊
@Chiiipaper
@Chiiipaper Ай бұрын
Thank you. I learned so much just watching this one video. Thank you again
@johng7106
@johng7106 10 ай бұрын
I'm looking to lease next year for the first time ever, and all of this information is invaluable.
@SuperRUBIN123
@SuperRUBIN123 10 ай бұрын
Great vid guys . Yes but of course leasing cars all these years that has always been principal to get the selling price first from the sales MGR . I skip the salesman altogether and talk straight with the sales MGR.
@tlane819527
@tlane819527 10 ай бұрын
This is great info. I /am/was looking at trading in my lease and whatever equity I had was going towards the next one. I was told I'm essentially stuck until the end of my lease because leasing companies are giving crazy buyout prices. My leasing bank is Ally and the dealer said we don't deal with them because their lease buy out numbers to dealers are about 20% more than the truck is worth.
@darylligon2701
@darylligon2701 10 ай бұрын
I feel your pain. I also am a victim of the “captive” Ally lease. Never again, will I take an Ally lease. I don’t care if the payment is lower. I loved Honda leases because they wouldn’t charge a dealer crazy fees for buying the car. Only six payments left, which is a silver lining.
@RolandButler-wv2hq
@RolandButler-wv2hq 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, great help for my upcoming lease.
@markscott5421
@markscott5421 10 ай бұрын
When I had my landscape company I always leased my work trucks (Chevies) got better deals extended miles per year and when I turned them in, only one got a charge for a dented rear quarter panel. I could write off the lease payments and all expenses associated with the trucks. I did buy one of the trucks out at the end of the lease as the buyout was almost 3K less than the current prices of the same truck used with more miles and poorer condition. Personally now being retired I have a Buick encore gx, got it for 23K, less 9K for my 2016 Cruze it was a purchase not a lease so I have a $258 payment for 5 years which I'm ok with...i really couldn't find a $0 down lease deal where I could have sold the Cruze for cash to a dealer, deduct the first payment, and drive out with a new car and a check. I would lease again on those terms but right now no good lease deals are out there and I do like my Buick.
@mamak2066
@mamak2066 6 ай бұрын
Such a super good authentic video
@andrewptob
@andrewptob 10 ай бұрын
Great info. Most people wouldn’t realize you shouldn’t put any money down on a lease
@katrinasoledad8463
@katrinasoledad8463 5 ай бұрын
Hmmm....but what if you have below average or poor credit, can you still ask or demand the dealership for: discounted MSRP, no money down/zero drive off and no extended warranties while meeting your $400-$500/monthly payment goal?
@7271293
@7271293 5 ай бұрын
Better yet when they say zero drive off is that differrnt than whats due at signing ? ​@@katrinasoledad8463
@vipe650r
@vipe650r 5 ай бұрын
I didn't. But, it totally makes sense now.
@RealKevGotEm
@RealKevGotEm 4 ай бұрын
I put 5.4k on my Mazda 😢 I regret it I hate the car
@ptalabiify
@ptalabiify 2 ай бұрын
⁠doesn't depend on the type of vehicle?
@tdz69
@tdz69 5 ай бұрын
This is great info. It’s just exhausting to think that you even have to apply it to get into a car. Unbelievable.
@haniff4277
@haniff4277 10 ай бұрын
Great learning tool, your channel is
@lexus.irizarry
@lexus.irizarry 3 ай бұрын
Excellent & helpful video! ✨
@nicknikolia8682
@nicknikolia8682 27 күн бұрын
Very helpful!! Thanks guys!!
@Chris-hy6jy
@Chris-hy6jy 10 ай бұрын
It's a bit different in the UK. Most leases allow you to put 1 month down minimum (+fees). That said, depending on the deal, putting more down CAN reduce the total amount payable. Agreed, if the car is written off or stolen within that "down payment period" you lose out. The finance company will be paid out by your insurance but YOU will not get that money back or be able to carry it over into another lease. That's the risk you take by putting more down in an attempt to get a better deal over the total term of the lease.
@Pure3nrg
@Pure3nrg 7 ай бұрын
I didn't know about the money down and the value lost...great info!
@vikssars
@vikssars 2 күн бұрын
Excellent review, Leasing cars since 2004, have gone over 20 leased vehicle (all luxury cars), never put down ,money ZERO DRIVE OFF. now here is the thing, you have to find the good lease offered by companies, thats the key, most companies at least once a year bring crazy deals on their cars, example I am leasing a 58K Acura MDX Advance for last 2 years and I got that car lease for 396.77, ZERO DRIVE OFF lol go out 80-100 miles to remote town which has a dealer, instead going to yout city dealer, who might be selling tons of cars. remote dealer who doesnt sell much would love to earn your business. tomorrow, I am picking up Subaru Solterra EV MSRP 54K ( Touring model) for zero money down for 329 a month. I made 2 dealer compete each other lol
@guerlinemacean3684
@guerlinemacean3684 25 күн бұрын
Exactly. That has being my strategy with leasing
@berniemadoff7837
@berniemadoff7837 Ай бұрын
This is great advice for the Toyota Crown since they're not selling well. I might even get the Crown Max.
@ULTIMATEhouseTV
@ULTIMATEhouseTV 2 ай бұрын
Thanks about to negotitate mine on friday
@tahone182
@tahone182 5 ай бұрын
Another amazingly educational video, you guys are the best... i have a lease question.. I’ve heard mixed reviews on matte paint, am I crazy to go with a factory matte paint? My concern is that when the lease is up I’m gonna be destroyed because of minor defects to the paint. Do you think it will fall under “wear and tear” or am I crazy for leasing a specialty factory paint option? Just figured I’d kick your brain. Thanks guys!!
@billtisdale6122
@billtisdale6122 10 ай бұрын
I was at a Ford dealership today. New trucks with missing stickers, about 1/2 of them, just the “dealer add-on” dealers and total pricing. There were trucks with the MSRP and a difference, up charge, from MSRP to the start of the dealer add on sticker averaging 1500-2000 higher to start.
@supertruckertom
@supertruckertom 10 ай бұрын
Ford near downtown El Paso was showing $4k below MSRP
@godofdun
@godofdun 10 ай бұрын
Great advice!
@Tony770jr
@Tony770jr 10 ай бұрын
I've been leasing for 15 years, and I usually negotiate by monthly payment in order to get the total cost down vs. the cost up from. I do this because I have a monthly budget that I want to be within. Also, I never turn in the car at the end of the lease primarily because I typically have equity in the vehicle and use that money for the next lease. Also, I never had a dealer ask me to purchase an extended warranty because it's a 36-month lease and already under warranty as is. But maybe there are some dealers which are scum bags and try this tactic... Thanks for your videos!
@7271293
@7271293 9 ай бұрын
So let me ask you this day said zero at drive off " due at signing " is that mandatory along with upfront cost mandatory ?
@testaccounting865
@testaccounting865 9 ай бұрын
So you buy the lease out and then flip the car by selling it before you get into another lease?
@sahaleedmonds85
@sahaleedmonds85 8 ай бұрын
There’s to much to not get screwed 🤦🏾‍♂️
@tomslick2058
@tomslick2058 5 ай бұрын
​@@testaccounting865but who has that kind of money. The lease company won't let you do it
@testaccounting865
@testaccounting865 5 ай бұрын
I just talked to some Honda dealers, and might be new at this, but they are buying out leases to keep their supply, so you can let a local dealer give you a buyout price.@@tomslick2058
@QuietHorizon
@QuietHorizon 13 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@TheNotimprezed
@TheNotimprezed 10 ай бұрын
As far as warrenty, the only thing you may consider is a dents, scratches and dings package. They cover dings scrtches and dents (obviously) and wheel damage (curb rash) so that you are not charged for those things at the end, because they can add up. But i would also say, never "return" the lease always trade it in (check and make sure your lease allows this, most do) or put it to another lease. Our last lease was over miles, had a couple dings and scratches, chip in the windsheild etc but the car still had positive equity that went to the new lease - so we didnt pay the dings/dents or return fee or over miles and got $ toward the new lease.
@superturtle61177
@superturtle61177 10 ай бұрын
Don't leases usually come with a certain amount of coverage? Like say dents or dings that total less than $1000 are covered?
@TheNotimprezed
@TheNotimprezed 10 ай бұрын
@@superturtle61177 its usually a size issue, dings under 1 inch they let fly, over they penalize, same with scratches. It all depends but you can also schedule your return inspection several weeks in advance of return and correct any issues if its cheaper to correct vs pay the penalty. For dings, PDR guys can really save you, but so can DIY kits - even if you can't get it to the level of PDR you can likely improve a ding enough to fall within spec to not have a penalty.
@Spanluver
@Spanluver 4 ай бұрын
Can’t you just sell to carmax? I did that, or sell back to same dealer I leased to for almost $5000. Did you shop around dealers or just sell back to one you leased from?
@TheNotimprezed
@TheNotimprezed 4 ай бұрын
@@Spanluver yes, you can always buy the lease and sell or trade it as you deem fit
@BpgaMusic
@BpgaMusic 5 ай бұрын
this got you a sub! thanks
@pealvin
@pealvin Ай бұрын
Awesome info. I was sitting around thinking about why am I going to put money down on this car.
@brianasailor9819
@brianasailor9819 10 ай бұрын
Hi new subscriber here. I love all of your videos. I wish I found you guys last year when I bought my first car lol. 😢❤️😂 speaking on this, and I just realized tonight that my car did not come with any factory mats. I bought it right from the Hyundai dealership too. What do I say to them to get my car mats? I know that they’re going to try and make me buy some but I’m not going to pay for some thing that is supposed to come with my car.
@razortooth3487
@razortooth3487 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate this video is a few months old but hopefully someone can help! If we shouldn't give away our monthly price, what should you say when a lease sales rep asks "what is your budget for your new lease?" Do I say something along the lines of, "monthly budget doesn't concern me I would like to get X% off the MSRP"? If so, what is a reasonable discount to ask for without getting laughed at or screwed over.
@margemastro556
@margemastro556 Ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@lc8602
@lc8602 5 ай бұрын
Very informative.
@dianaban7652
@dianaban7652 10 ай бұрын
Hey guys, I love u guys very informative. I've always heard that when u lease and u go to lease another car that what's ever money that is left over is tacked on to the next car (r even if u go to buy another car) so now not only do u have the new car to lease r to buy, but u still also have what's left of the other lease, right?
@DM72513
@DM72513 10 ай бұрын
Great advice. I would have also discussed the residual value as well. People don't understand that some cars don't lease well and that comes down to the residual set my the manufacturer.
@paulgyro
@paulgyro 10 ай бұрын
Yes! Without it I don't know how to get a good lease deal without going through the whole sales process for every vehicle.
@DM72513
@DM72513 10 ай бұрын
@@paulgyro Cute but certain vehicles lease like shit because the residual starts with a 5X%. People don't understand that you shouldn't even be considering vehicles that lease so poorly you might just be better off financing them.
@paulgyro
@paulgyro 10 ай бұрын
@@CryptoRva I thought the leasing company determines the residual?
@michaelfriedman5063
@michaelfriedman5063 10 ай бұрын
I thought that money factor was set by bank, that's non negotiable
@Upracefan
@Upracefan 10 ай бұрын
@@CryptoRvaResidual is determined by the msrp, not the sales price.
@Spanluver
@Spanluver 4 ай бұрын
2:44 so I have leased both ways. Paying fees up front and in monthly payments. It changes the contract structure, like the layout is different because you don’t have anything in “amount due at lease signing” basically 4, 5 and 6 sections of contract. I didn’t really see any difference it’s just how it appears. Also, one time thru deferred my first month payment so it wasn’t at due at lease signing
@megavane
@megavane 4 ай бұрын
Thank you guys”
@janetperkins9382
@janetperkins9382 16 күн бұрын
Love the father and son relationship ❤
@chris-fm6jp
@chris-fm6jp 10 ай бұрын
My key points, most of which in the video: 1) do the homework on lease specific incentives and the lease money factor from the mfg leasing company before going to the dealership 2) If considering an EV lease, confirm if any available tax credit $s are being fully passed through to the lessee as a cap cost reduction versus being fully or partially held back as profit 3) confirm who the leasing company (lessor) actually is, i.e. make sure there is not a 3rd party leasing company being inserted into the deal, only deal with the mfg's finance company 4) and as illustrated in the video confirm your lease includes GAP as a default item...
@matsudakodo
@matsudakodo 6 ай бұрын
Pro tip: decline the GAP insurance and instead add it to your auto insurance for a fraction of the cost.
@chris-fm6jp
@chris-fm6jp 6 ай бұрын
not all insurance carriers offer true GAP, for example USAA offers an optional policy item that tries to act like GAP but it is ACV plus a fixed percentage, say +20% which could be much less than total owed.
@TRD_SoloTaco
@TRD_SoloTaco 10 ай бұрын
Could you please do a pro/con of doing a lease to purchase process? I would love to hear Ray’s perspective on it.
@MattGarcyaDC
@MattGarcyaDC 10 ай бұрын
only want to keep a car for 6 years max? Or always trade in car for newer model when financing? might as well lease.
@paulgyro
@paulgyro 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this info, how does one shop for a good lease within their budget without having to go through the full sales cycle as described? Or is it not possible without getting trapped into a lesser deal?
@igorkoske8376
@igorkoske8376 10 ай бұрын
Another bonus rule is to never have your lease payment exceed 1.5% of your MSRP based on a lease with NO MONEY DOWN due at signing otherwise you’re not getting a good lease. Best leases are when your payment is 1% of the price of MSRP and you get there with no money out of pocket at signing or only doing your first payment upfront and rolling the rest of the fees into the lease Another tip is try to stay away from long term leases that exceed 39 months and choose lease term 33 months 36 months or 39 months at most and all the other terms should be avoided as options to lease and if you want to keep the car for longer then 39 months than you really shouldn’t be leasing but financing.
@indycharlie
@indycharlie 10 ай бұрын
Wait ! So you are saying then . If the MSRP is $50,000 , a good lease payment with zero down would be $500 a month ?
@igorkoske8376
@igorkoske8376 10 ай бұрын
@@indycharlie correct. 👍 with no money down at the time of signing the lease and your worth case scenario on your payment that will not exceed 1.5% of MSRP also with no money down due upfront at the time of signing the lease and if it’s more walk away.
@indycharlie
@indycharlie 10 ай бұрын
@@igorkoske8376 Wow , ok . Thanks .
@ltcmoose2001
@ltcmoose2001 10 ай бұрын
My monthly lease payment for my 21 Grand Cherokee is 1% of the msrp with no money down for 39 months. I do pay 5% of monthly lease price to cover the sales tax each month. So if the lease 500 per month. I add $25 per month for the sales tax in my state.
@paulgyro
@paulgyro 10 ай бұрын
​@@indycharlieI don't think I've ever seen that good of lease on a $50,000 vehicle out the door. Am I missing something?
@DR_Bloom86
@DR_Bloom86 Ай бұрын
Another lease tip if you stay with the same brand try and turn it in a month or 2 before your lease ends to avoid the lease aquisition fee when you turn it in.
@MattGarcyaDC
@MattGarcyaDC 10 ай бұрын
i paid only my gap insurance and first payment upfront while negotiating the selling price.
@davidd7175
@davidd7175 10 ай бұрын
One thing not mentioned are MSDs, or security deposits. Could be wrong but not all manufacturers accept it and the policies will vary. Example, do you get the MSDs back once the lease ends, but don’t of lease was ended early. Also what happens if the car is totaled etc. MSDs can help bring monthly down, but again gotta know what the contract says about them.
@WClark-lp9vc
@WClark-lp9vc 6 ай бұрын
Thank You so much. I had a lease where I traded in my car that i owned. i had no idea the best way is no money down?
@dianaalyssa8726
@dianaalyssa8726 10 ай бұрын
Interesting. I've done the prenegotiated specials idk in the past. No frills.
@districtavarice
@districtavarice 8 ай бұрын
Hey what do you think of paying a lease all up front in order to save $$ on interest for someone who has a lot of cash and is mostly concerned with paying the least amount over course of the lease?
@_xoxokiaraaa_
@_xoxokiaraaa_ 10 ай бұрын
Would you recommend the no money down for buying a vehicle and keeping that extra money to help pay the car payment?
@PianoKeyzOfficial
@PianoKeyzOfficial Ай бұрын
This is important to know, but these factors work with one another and change the only thing that actually matters - the all in effective monthly price. That's it and that's what everyone should focus on.
@BabyMikeVenom
@BabyMikeVenom 4 ай бұрын
5:00 the benefit would reduce your down-payment on the wrong end. You wanna haggle all other fees and wave high msrps FIRST this in order sets the stage for your true monthly payment. You don't wanna give the dealer wiggle room (your down payment is there wiggle room)
@philbiker3
@philbiker3 20 күн бұрын
@2:56 gap insurance can be much MUCH cheaper through your regular auto policy than whatever the lease people are charging.
@elimerc84
@elimerc84 5 ай бұрын
I got screwed with a lease… supposedly they had vehicles for $300 per month, they up the MSRP, I put $5k down, put the extended warranty, and still got an awful payment of $924… they said it was 0% and I see there’s a 7% sales tax… planning to call the bank to see if able to renegotiate the interest or something hopefully but would never do this again
@HungNguyen-se8dn
@HungNguyen-se8dn 10 ай бұрын
You two should offer either buying or leasing services for potential customers ❤
@lawrenceandrews2625
@lawrenceandrews2625 Ай бұрын
They do
@Bill-gh6xf
@Bill-gh6xf 10 ай бұрын
How about a video on whether to buy the vehicle when the lease is up, pros and cons.
@mississippibilly_
@mississippibilly_ 10 ай бұрын
I hope they see this
@brandoncook67
@brandoncook67 3 ай бұрын
Do you want to keep the vehicle? Is the residual in line with the current market value? Can you afford the financing? Is the vehicle expected to be reliable? If yes to all, I would buy.
@engineeringoyster6243
@engineeringoyster6243 10 ай бұрын
“Fair Deal.” What a loaded phrase. What makes any price fair? For decades now, my attitude has been that if the dealership loses money on one deal during the year, I want it to be mine. Fairness doesn’t apply here. It is a competition. I want to do better than the the dealer. But, the dealer has many advantages. Most significantly, they have a much better understanding of Supply and Demand in this market for this week than any customer can have. Still, the best defense is to focus on the OTD price. And don’t be emotional.
@ClarisseRockinThatBow
@ClarisseRockinThatBow 10 ай бұрын
Sadly, this video came 6 days too late for me. I leased a 2023 Mazda CX-5 Turbo. My lease did NOT come with GAP insurance included, so I had to purchase that. In Ohio, GAP insurance is required. I was offered the drive-off option (no money down, blah, blah, blah) and turned it down (stupid in retrospect), put down $2500 (stupid 2.0) and focused on the monthly payment, per another YT video. Luckily, I did not get the extended warranty. After watching this video, I realized how foolish I had been (despite researching the hell out of which car to get and how to negotiate a lease). I've been leasing Hondas for 11 years and wanted a change, so I wasn't a total newbie to the process - and I STILL got screwed. The only good thing is that I love my new vehicle and enjoy driving it a lot. My sales rep kept me there from 1:30-6:00 p.m. during negotiations - it was hot outside, I hadn't eaten in hours, and I was tired - so my defenses were down. I feel like an idiot now. I don't believe they behaved "above board," but I unfortunately signed the contract. I should have walked out of the dealership, like my gut was telling me to, but I didn't. I did receive a Mazda satisfaction survey email - can I complain there? Is there anything I can do to make this less financially painful?
@janetperkins9382
@janetperkins9382 17 күн бұрын
Sorry that deal was frustrating for you. Ford duped me on a Bronco, warranty, 20,000 down. Blah blah blah. Although I am buying the vehicle still a bad deal. Subsequently you can voice your concerns on the survey and write a Google review so others can be aware of there shady tactics. Enjoy your new ride.
@ClarisseRockinThatBow
@ClarisseRockinThatBow 17 күн бұрын
@janetperkins9382 I love our CX-5 so far (had it 10 months). The first service call was odd - I'd only had the car 5 months. A sales rep approached me and hustled me to get a NEW CAR! I told him I'd only had my vehicle for a few months and wasn't interested in getting another one until my lease was up. He was very aggressive with me (nice, but pushy), and he gave me his car. I felt like I was being picked up by some creep in a bar - that's how cringy it was! I'd never lease from them again, frankly.
@USMCGYSGTRET
@USMCGYSGTRET 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding info, you guys are great
@stan2189
@stan2189 6 ай бұрын
I desperately need to do this and wish to God one of you would guide me through this ... Lol. Great info ... Help
@dighead
@dighead 6 ай бұрын
We want an EV and are considering a lease so we always have the best tech and batteries within 2-3 years. What the thoughts on this approach? I know typically it’s better to buy but to always have maximum mileage on a EV seems like a winner to me too.
@gloriousgearhead5367
@gloriousgearhead5367 5 ай бұрын
Leasing Vs long term rentals. Which one is a better option for someone that likes to keep changing cars?
@kirkdunn1379
@kirkdunn1379 10 ай бұрын
Good advice... It's not the dealers job to have your best interest at stake That is your job! If you sign a bad one, it's your fault..... You can be a victim and complain about it or you can be a good negotiator, get good deal, and have some pride knowing you did well and help others do the same!
@LClaypool
@LClaypool 10 ай бұрын
In Atlanta they just aren't doing that right now. I do the same, 0 down on my leases. Used to anway. I have great credit too. But the dealers seem to greed want that down payment. Or, ive caught them playing w the money factor. Had financial guy say he couldn't share the money factor in negotiating. Really nuts, i think most of these sale guys and financial guys dont really know how to put a fair lease together. They've figured out the wrong way bc customers go along w it.
@rrrrrrrr1036
@rrrrrrrr1036 9 ай бұрын
What happens if the dealer takes the first payment, registration, and fees out of a lease cash incentive to make it zero drive off? Is that something that pads their profit? What should a customer be asking for instead?
@superchuck500
@superchuck500 8 ай бұрын
Another key to leasing: go the message boards at Edmunds and find out the posted program rate (money factor) for the lease you want (length/miles/zip code). Then you will know how much the dealer is marking up the finance charge and be able to use that to negotiate either a lower money factor than what the dealer quoted you, or as leverage to reduce the MSRP to offset that markup.
@Spanluver
@Spanluver 4 ай бұрын
Ok but then you aren’t really getting a deal right? If you pay higher money factor but reduce the sell price to offset, then aren’t you still paying for interest (money factor x 2400) more than the principal? A good deal would be to reduce MF and MSRP
@superchuck500
@superchuck500 4 ай бұрын
Yes sure - any reduction from the MF and/or MSRP is to your benefit. My point is that those lease rates are program rates through the manufacturer’s financing and dealers often mark them up despite having no function in the lease. If you didn’t know the program MF you wouldn’t know how much they’re marking it up - so it’s always best to find that out.
@andrewshenton6541
@andrewshenton6541 10 ай бұрын
I understand what you are saying about the payment ,but iff you’ve done the research on everything the monthly payment is all you need to know with the money factor and don’t go over 42 months max
@user-rv8lg5oc6w
@user-rv8lg5oc6w 10 ай бұрын
What about asking whats the exact amount of the lease i will pay over 36 months ?does that help you negotiate a better lease?
@METALGRONAIR
@METALGRONAIR Ай бұрын
Hi guys! Would you say that leasing a car would be the best option when: 1. You are moving to a new state and can't bring your own car (overseas) 2. You are in need of a car ASAP for more mobility at work 3. You may not have much money for a decent down payment in case of financing (since will be investing in moving), 4 And, you are not sure if you'll stay too long in the state?
@rufinusofaquileia4288
@rufinusofaquileia4288 10 ай бұрын
Can you please clarify. I thought that the advertised GM Lease, Mazda Lease etc. terms were set by corporate, not the dealer. They can be negotiated with the dealer?
@toastedpickle
@toastedpickle 3 ай бұрын
Rule of thumb a $40,000 should equal a $400 a month payment with minimal to no money down. Lately though it seems to not be the case anymore due to the state of the economy so expect higher payments but with a little negotiating you may be able to get that $40,000 for less than $400 a month. Check dealer inventory before you head down to the dealer. The more they have in stock of the car you want the better chance you have to negotiate a lower lease payment.
@srl0003
@srl0003 10 ай бұрын
Great info, thanks!
@JBarr-lw6kp
@JBarr-lw6kp 8 ай бұрын
This is obviously for people who have a slight grounding in the subject, not for complete newbies. They could clarify a few things.
@northjerseykevin3915
@northjerseykevin3915 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I’m looking at a Jeep Wrangler EV. They are supposedly giving me 14k in credits. I was hoping that number or part of it would come off the MSRP …. If it did come offf the msrp would that help lower the residual value? I feel like I got a decent lease deal but the buyout seems high. Basically my lease payment plus the buyout Equals the MSRP. I feel like that 14 K got lost in the equation
@LuV2SPDup
@LuV2SPDup 15 күн бұрын
Hi. I have watched several of your videos. They're very helpful. Thanks for doing this for us who don't know. I went to a Lexus dealership and did exactly how suggested. Please let me know if I did everything correctly. All numbers are rounded for easy calculations. At first, I established the final selling price of $64,000. Then the residual amount of $31,000, and $1,000 for my trade in. That's $32,000, which would go as the lease amount for 48 months. Am I correct so far? After that, we added the sales tax, which is for the amount of the lease amount, right? It all came out at $35,000. To calculate my monthly lease amount, do I divide the $35,000 amount? I calculated $730/month for 48 month. Was that correct? Thank!
@ZacharyAnglemyer
@ZacharyAnglemyer 10 ай бұрын
What happens for cars that are let’s say over $150,000 that you want to leave because it’s the most advantageous wait purchase it. Often times no matter who you are or what your credit score is you cannot lease it without 10% down what do you saved about this?? Likewise single pay leases with gap insurance.
@nicholaspruitt9904
@nicholaspruitt9904 10 ай бұрын
I am turning in my lease in 4months, but plan on leasing again. I bought gap insurance last time, is it recommended to get gap insurance again. I have the best coverage with Triple A, so is gap insurance worth it.
@user-te5pe6be6q
@user-te5pe6be6q 5 ай бұрын
Hi, I've signed a deal yesterday Toyota Highlander Limited Edition Purchase price: $64, 469 (MSRP $67500) Residual value: $31, 312.96 (after 4 years) Down payment: $0 My first proposal: Lease term: 36 months Down payment: $0 Monthly payment: $1200 But signed papers with below deal: Lease term: 48 months Monthly payment: $1120 Could you please confirm if this is a good deal ?
@willedu
@willedu 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for these tips! But do you think in these times we can still have leverage not to put money down? Dealers here in South Florida are being too comfortable and not wanting to negotiate. In fact, they say, you can go if you want, we have other people in line.... its crazy.
@fredarroyo7429
@fredarroyo7429 10 ай бұрын
That’s what I was thinking
@Spanluver
@Spanluver 4 ай бұрын
For zero drive off, doesn’t that mean you don’t have a trade in or incentives? I’m pretty sure those are part of the “due at lease signing” in section 6, right? Because it’s a CCR because you trade in to lower payments. Or am I wrong?
@digitalpunkdiva2894
@digitalpunkdiva2894 10 ай бұрын
Interesting. Ihave had 2 very good affordable lease situation with no money down, refused additional cost add ons and questioned all the line items. Honda and Subaru were very cooperative. I leased for under $250/mo.
@skythrone5372
@skythrone5372 8 ай бұрын
What's the dealership do you go to for your lease at this rate?
@brandond8333
@brandond8333 4 ай бұрын
What was your credit score at the time?
@IAmJeka
@IAmJeka 2 ай бұрын
0:25 what if I already talked about monthly payment lol because I went way lower than advertised but I also talked about out the door price
@kL-eh6ek
@kL-eh6ek Ай бұрын
AM SHOWING THIS SKILLS ON MY NEXT LEASE
@zeezee9188
@zeezee9188 3 ай бұрын
When they say selling price is they mean the msrp or otd? Or is it something different?
@mikewhipp
@mikewhipp 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff
@timkline162
@timkline162 10 ай бұрын
I think you mentioned it, but now I can't find it... if I'm negotiating off of the out the door price, what can I expect a. monthly lease payment to be on average for every $10,000 of the full price?
@Spanluver
@Spanluver 4 ай бұрын
After agreed on contract, you have to talk to finaancer. He will try to get you to pay for GAP insurance. Should you? How much?
@billjanis6328
@billjanis6328 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know if many of these great suggestions work when you want a car that is very sought-after. Like a Hyundai Kona, for instance. They sell out the first day they’re on the lot, so they don’t really cared to negotiate and if you do want to, they’ll tell you to get lost because the next guy won’t negotiate.
@radiofan2454
@radiofan2454 10 ай бұрын
Unless you like a new vehicle/car every three years or can't afford the monthly purchase payment for a 36 month loan, it seems like purchasing is a better option, especially if one gets a very low interest rate. Maybe a lease makes sense for low reliability vehicles, but since even the poor quality vehicles seem to go 100,000 miles without repair, I'm not sure....
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