Don't Let This Happen To Your Chainsaw!

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In this video I show you some important maintenance that should be done to your chainsaw whether you have a Stihl, Husqvarna, Poulan or any saw for that matter.
And from what I have seen in my shop this maintenance is especially important if you have a Stihl MS291 or 391 chainsaw because if you don't do this it can end up costing you a lot of money to repair your saw!
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@donyboy73 2 жыл бұрын

Check out my video on a neat MS170 chain adjuster mod here; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNR2l5V_sr20iaM.html

@941Earl 2 жыл бұрын

Here my friends thought I was going overboard cleaning my saw, bar, and the clutch/drum after every weekend I use them. I use them hard, too. This just proves I was correct in my practice. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

@capohd28 2 жыл бұрын

Every use is probably excessive, but like myself, you probably enjoy doing it. It's really satisfying to clean up a grungy saw. It's also nice to pull out,a clean saw to use. Better too much maintenance than not enough.

@MrRander7769 2 жыл бұрын

What you are saying is maybe I should do this to my 40 year old mcculloch? I thought I cleaned it pretty good with a air hose. Never had any problems.

@johnready630 2 жыл бұрын

Great advice but one other thing that will cause this wear is over tightening the chain , if fact that can actually take your main crank bearing and seal out. Cheers , former Stihl Canada Tech. Dept. employee.

@georgedavall9449 Жыл бұрын

Great point John, as will not releasing tension on the chain after saw has been shut down from a lot of cutting!

@markproulx1472 2 жыл бұрын

Man, great advice. I’ll service my two saws the next time I’m at our farm.

@henerker 2 жыл бұрын

Another super helpful, money saving video from Dony! Wow….I never knew this could happen!!! This simple maintenance would prevent losing the entire saw. Thanks so much, Dony!

@Tommyr 2 жыл бұрын

The old saying "They don't make them like they used to" is SO true. For just about everything.

@TC-fq2ew 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip and reminder! Admittedly, I haven't done that since I got my saws running. I have stihl 460, 034, and 260 which I just bought new oil cap for per another video of yours. Thank you for your very informative videos. While I have figured out over the years much of the content, I refer to your knowledge and experience to dot i's and cross t's. Your "no BS" delivery approach keeps me coming back for more knowledge. Thanks and keep up the excellent work. TC

@lanefrank6208 2 жыл бұрын

I clean and grease this bearing after each use of my MS462. Prior to installing the bearing, I fill the interior about half full of Stihl grease and cover the opposite end of the bearing with my finger. As the bearing slides are pressed over the crankshaft with my finger, the grease is forced from the interior through to the exterior surfaces of the bearing packing it. I then slide the clutch drum on , making sure that the slot in the drum engages the oil pump, and then complete the assembly. Less messy way to grease it. This is a good video. Thanks Don.

@jackpinesavage1628 2 жыл бұрын

I just wrote, then cancelled a comment, after I scrolled down to see you said almost exactly what I said.

@newcreation07 2 жыл бұрын

I am planning on getting me a 391 at some point. I hope they don’t stop making it anytime soon, but I’m glad I watched this video

@circuitbreaker9001 2 жыл бұрын

Have a husky 51. It is 30 years old now. Never knew about this bearing maintenance till this year. I now do it and the bearing was still good. I do 20 cords or more a year. Great video for those who did not know. I think all of us really enjoy how you share your knowledge. Will be working Dec.29th up in your area

@tannerc900 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never particularly had an interest in small engines before, I just did what I needed to on my own equipment when the time arose but after bingeing all your videos you make being a small engine mechanic look so cool. I’m always outside doing the maintenance tips you show

@sandsock 2 жыл бұрын

Ive been doing that on my saws going back to the 90s. They have always been plastic caged through at least 5 stihls. My saw mechanic pulled me aside, when i was having a saw sharpened and ahowed me how to break it down that far. He used to maintain a whole landscaping crews saws. General rule of thumb. Was hit it in the spring and fall. Then every 4 sharpening. About qhen you got it near the shop and swere usung the air compressor. To clean it up. Its probably every few cords of wood for me. Averaging 30 to40 cords a year. Ive never seen a clutch shaft wear loose. The sales guy goes farther and recommends loosening the chain when you quit. So the chains not hot and pulling\bending the shaft. He says he has seen it. When he worked the repair side

@tomm5827 2 жыл бұрын

Very valuable bit of advice. Thank you for posting this video. I will be sure to regularly perform this maintenance on the 291 I recently purchased.

@michaelspencer301 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video. You were the first and by far the best small engine repairman I subscribed to . Keep up the great work. 👍

@johnholmes8416 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip. I have a 291 & I'll make sure to do this maintenance regularly. 👍 Thanks

@hollywood1937 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the great maintenance tip. I am new to the chain saw game. Have learned a lot from you. I have always taken care of my equipment, but this is another level which I am happy to start doing. Saving me money and having my machines run at their top potential is key! Thanks again

@johnmclaughlin7406 2 жыл бұрын

Cut wood for 50 years. Never knew about this bearing maintenance. Started out with a XL-123 Homelite, then a R55 Partner. I ended up converting both to a rim sprocket from a star sprocket. Bars back then were hard nos bars not sprocket nose bars. After cutting firewood for my dad and I I have now converted to wood pellets.I have a Harman PF-100 wood furnace. I must say that I actually enjoyed my time in the woods with my dad. He has passed on in July at 95 years old. Many memories, mostly good and some bad. I now own a Husqvarna 359, and an Echo CS-370 chain saws.

@andrewcornford2306 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a professional tree surgeon in the UK, I have both 291 and 391 they are great saws. I clean my fully after each day, even sometimes during the day if it's particularly dirty weather or I'm cutting a wind blow out of a river. Another great informative video for the uninitiated, thanks.

@ronaldbailey7365 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta get pro grade saws last longer

@happycamper6352 Жыл бұрын

@@ronaldbailey7365 I was going to say same; plus power-to-weight ratio is better for less fatigue and more productivity, plus the materials are stronger e.g. more magnesium, less plastic. Do a teardown or watch a youtube teardown of home-gamer vs. pro saws from Stihl. Night and day differences.

@michaelchilders1658 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a 391 so this information in greatly appreciated!! Awesome! Thank you Dony!!👍🔥

@henryhenry5897 2 жыл бұрын

This guy makes me go out to my garage and check this bearing and grease it lol

@donyboy73 2 жыл бұрын

lol

@rooster3019 2 жыл бұрын

Great advice. I was unaware that new saws had plastic clutch bearing cages. My saws are older and I used NGLI-2 lithium. I now use NGLI-2 shear stable polyurea. I replace clutch spurs as the chain wears into them causing pitch change compared to new replacement chains. But, bearings are original from back in mid 1970's.

@bobmcl2406 2 жыл бұрын

Well, I guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend! Thanks for another clear and complete video.

@gregwilson9035 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dony, greetings from Down Under. Thanks for the 291 advice. I have a fairly new one and will be checking the bearing from now on. I also have a Stihl 010 from the early ‘80’s. It is still going strong. I can’t help thinking they are not made as well now.

@stinch2 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up. I have the same plastic cage roller bearing design on my MS250 that I purchased new last year. Just packed mine with low temp lithium grease, great tip thanks!

@Rattletrap2 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Don! Great tip! I want to wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas! Thanks for sharing all your knowledge and expertise!

@paulfroese1469 2 жыл бұрын

That's been on my mind about that bearing and you put my mind at ease cause I'm heading to the shop now. Much thanks and appreciate it. Nothing's cheap these days and any preventative maintenance is worth everything!! 👍😉

@manyfeather2knives423 2 жыл бұрын

Your the best. I love these vids on maintenance. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@donyboy73 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@adnacraigo6590 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 391. Thanks for the tip. You are excellent.

@RichA-ww8co Жыл бұрын

More important tips! Thanks. Volunteer in preserve with much chainsaw work. Saws take aa beating. Your tips assist in maintaining said saws that are essential to preserve maintenance. Essential channel for me and the preserve.

@rolfnilsen6385 2 жыл бұрын

Oh dear. Thank you for great tips! I happen to have a 390 (and 026 Super) and will check on these now.

@Marine-iu3ev Жыл бұрын

Excellent! I have an MS 291 and did not know this, thank you. And the 291 has been a very reliable saw.

@MrGoobum 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. You’re right. They don’t make ‘em like they used to. Thanks for the tips!

@jeffcampbell4484 2 жыл бұрын

Have a 270 and 271, will check them this weekend, great tip thanks

@wayneberry8703 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Dony, this will be my first job tomorrow morning lol. I had never thought about that bearing at all. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Cheers mate.

@wayneberry8703 2 жыл бұрын

Cleaned the bearings and clutch housing today. Thanks Dony for the thumbs up.

@benjammin2859 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a longtime subscriber and just watched this video last night. I’ve owned an MS391 for 6 years and use it for about 6 weeks a year to cut firewood to heat my home (around 16 m2 of mixed softwood and hardwood). I do all the maintenance myself. I’ve replaced the clutch drum and bearing once in that time but have never lubricated the bearing in between. This morning I removed the E-clip to check the condition of the bearing, and the plastic cage was broken! Fortunately the crankshaft appears to be undamaged. You saved my saw, Dony. Thank you!

@davekana8388 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Bearing was in need of more grease, but we’re good on wear. Great tips!

@vetterfellow 2 жыл бұрын

Good morning DB73, All good points I didn't know about. I need to take out my saws and check this out on mine. Thanks, Ol Budy. U - D - Best 👍

@madpogue 2 жыл бұрын

Glad I caught this video. I learned about the roller bearing when I first started running saw 15 years ago, but I, uh... forgot about it. And I just bought a used Echo. Sure enough, all my saws including the Echo had dry roller bearings BIG time. Much better now.

@setdown2 2 жыл бұрын

Only somebody who works on these saws knows the real deal on what wears out and how to prevent it...great tip ...👍

@donyboy73 2 жыл бұрын

my buddies that work at stihl dealers noticed the same problem

@junotafoya4712 2 жыл бұрын

Yes Sir,been doing this for years ms391 and old school 044.Running smooth with no problems.

@dougbongle3192 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video Donny. I have a 290 that I will be greasing the bearing on tomorrow

@oceanheadted 2 жыл бұрын

I like the stihl design for the clutch, easy to clean up.

@Wilett614 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip , And well presented Thank you !

@LIF1395 2 жыл бұрын

I never ever knew this and I try to look after my gear as best I can

@waynetrain8033 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip! Your other video on changing the clutch was a huge help

@raymondcampbell2346 2 жыл бұрын

Great tips Don. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. You and your family have a Merry Christmas.

@ChippyOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

Also note that using the chain brake when idling with it on for anymore then needed will melt those plastic caged bearings, melt plastic case around the brake band, change the temper in your clutch springs also. I did a 2 part series on a ms171 that had this happen to, and have a couple ms170s on the shelf from customers who did the same thing. There are aftermarket options for steel caged clutch bearings also. I never use the stihl plastic caged ones anymore for those reasons

@susanbutler2498 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent Advice Mate! I'm off to the shed to grease my Stihl BEFORE I use it again. Thank you from NZ.

@deanmoore420 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a great tip I have an MS 291 and I will have to check that thank you dony

@chuckmorris7043 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the good advice. We have an old Farmboss 29, and a new MS661. I did encounter a worn out bearing, it was gone. patched it up with a new bearing and some lube.

@davekana8388 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reminder on my MS391.

@hanksbud2544 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I know what i will be doing this weekend. Thanks Dony

@Ray-ks1xp Жыл бұрын

First time seeing this, I’ll have to service mine, thanks for the information 👍

@garyanello3881 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip!!! Thank you Mr. Don 😁

@michaelwray4359 2 жыл бұрын

Wow I have both saws and never new this thank you very much you are awesome and the best thank you for sharing and letting us know that don’t

@PatHiggins-Mayo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dony.. Hope you and your family have a nice Christmas

@lukepodolski8818 2 жыл бұрын

Thank u for the excellent advice

@Matt_justlikethat 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Don, I just did the bearing maintenance/cleaned and greased on my 290. While I had the clutch drum off I cleaned the inside surface where it contacts the clutch also with the carb cleaner an a terry towel. It had a build up on the edges that don’t contact the clutch. Got it back together feeling good about something I didn’t know. Thanks Matt From Ohio 👍👍

@pureblood324 10 ай бұрын

290 is well and I love it I'm not looking forward to upgrading to a newer cheaper made song in the future that's for sure I'm going to make sure all 290 stays running strong FYI do the muffler mod thank me later LOL

@alanporter2694 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip. I must check my one out I have not greased it up to this point.

@winstonclarke9221 2 жыл бұрын

A Very educational video Donny, thanks for sharing it with me,👍.

@semco72057 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that tip, Dony and I will check the saws I have grease them up properly after doing some cleaning.

@annettepalmgren4018 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful information especially for my 291

@curtissiwak5349 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting the video. My chainsaw is a stihl 361 from 2002. I will check to see how similar it is to the 291 or 391.

@theskullsculler7991 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up. Will do!

@InsanityProductionsl Жыл бұрын

Just replaced needle bearings in an MS311 and MS361 (MS361 got very hard to pull, I found needle bearings in the case when I pulled the clutch drum; I replaced the bearings in the 311 before it happened there). I had not greased them ever! Thanks donyboy, you are spot on as usual. I've been running saws for 50 years off and (mostly) on, having owned about a dozen and had never seen this happen before. Heed his advice!

@Patrick4959 2 жыл бұрын

Top stuff Donny mate cheers from Australia to Canada.

@Frankiarmz 2 жыл бұрын

Invaluable information and instruction!

@apuuvah 2 жыл бұрын

Very good informative channel. So, your effort is much appreciated.

@m998hmmwv7 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea I usually only check when changing our bar and or chain. Ty..

@rustynails4149 2 жыл бұрын

Another good reason not to over tighten your chain

@paullemay3218 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this valuable information. ❤️🇨🇦

@bruceseverson6622 2 жыл бұрын

I clean my saw after every use but never new I should check and grease that bearing. Thanks for the video.

@mr1pearl 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I watched this one thanks !

@Rural_Racooon Жыл бұрын

Good information. Many people neglect these little things that make a big difference in longevity of their saw. It is hard to understand why manufacturers make something they know is going to get beat on so cheap, and ask a pretty penny for it out of the box.

@jamesmooney5348 2 жыл бұрын

When I've done this, I notice a difference for the better in performance. But I used standard axel grease- not sure if that's the best option... Thanks for sharing this.

@duanelandry3566 2 жыл бұрын

! It's really very simple I was a Sthil man for forty years now I run nothing but Huskies, no more problems !

@holdemNE1 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting.

@JeanLucCoulon 10 ай бұрын

Valuable (!) information! Thanks.

@craigkeller 2 жыл бұрын

Great tips! Thank you

@Robnord1 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the maintenance tip Dony! I just checked the parts diagram for both my baby Poulan and my Chinese 038 clone (don't judge me...lol) and they both have this arrangement.

@jjparody8257 2 жыл бұрын

That's the 1st thing I did, too, on my 2 Poulans. You are right, there is no roller bearing. Guess that's one of the reasons that they sell for $130 vs $300 &up for Stihl & Husq.

@Robnord1 2 жыл бұрын

@@jjparody8257 Yes. Instead of a nice roller bearing, the little Poulan has a bearing sleeve pressed into the clutch drum. 😒Disposable versus rebuildable. Even more reason for me to clean and lube it I imagine.

@shsechas 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate you and your channel. Thanks!!

@georgedavall9449 Жыл бұрын

This Man is just awesome! Ain’t no two ways about it. 👍✌😊

@scottmclagan4276 2 жыл бұрын

This is surprising. In my experience, that bearing is totally still 99% of the time because it only spins when the saw is idling. When cutting, and the clutch is engaged, the bearing doesn't turn. Nonetheless, I keep mine clean and lubed, but I'm thinking some of Dony's customers must 1) completely ignore basic cleaning and lube and 2) let their saws idle for long periods of time.

@KC9UDX 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts.

@maxmustermann2841 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry but that is wrong, the bearing spinns the whole time when the saw is running. But the good thing is that you can buy those metal ones. I dont know if you in America can but we in Germany can. Greetings

@scottmclagan4276 2 жыл бұрын

@@maxmustermann2841 Think once more. At high RPMs, the crankshaft, clutch shoe assembly, and clutch housing all turn together as one. When the clutch is engaged that bearing is still. When the the motor idles, the crankshaft continues to rotate (slowly) along with the shoes, but the clutch housing is still. Hence, the crankshaft spins inside the clutch housing. This is what the bearing is needed for.

@scottmclagan4276 2 жыл бұрын

LOL...though I do agree with you that the bearing "spins"; it's just spinning in a stationary state in concert with the crankshaft, shoes, and clutch drum. It's basically going along for the ride. Maybe that's what you were referring to.

@SuperScottie3000 2 жыл бұрын

It’s like a automotive clutch throw out bearing

@levent8208 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dony, I have a MS180 and It was on my todo list but I didn't know about the plastic bearing, it's kind of ridiculous that to save 1$ a company would design something like that. It looks like a trend now to make short videos, not sure why but I like the concept.

@micanopykracker902 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Donnie just want to say I'm a new subscriber I just watch you and Steve's live podcast from the other day. And I enjoyed it very much. So it's so weird that I seen this video housing with the spur on it for my Husqvarna and I put a new bearing in it like an idiot I did not grease it however I haven't used it either so first thing in the morning you know what I'm doing really like your guys stuff you'll probably be hearing from you a lot thanks again brother this is Brian from the Nature Coast of Florida

@REF49 Жыл бұрын

Great information, have not addressed this, thanks!

@jimmydickson8854 2 жыл бұрын

Very good tips Donny thanks

@larrykost4186 2 жыл бұрын

Another great bit of info...appreciate it!

@heavysnow8616 2 жыл бұрын

Chainsaw clutch bearings being greased around the world. Good job Donny! Keep it up.

@mopartshemi 2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever tried porting saws and moding carbs i swear this can take your channel to a new level

@robertgwalsh5878 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Merry Christmas

@johnkosheluk1041 2 жыл бұрын

Also on the ms194 to check under the recoil for pom prons it is common for them to be by the coil if you don't check you will get the cylinder hot same on the ms201tcm

@mattlaptop5728 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this vital information. I checked my bearing today and it was needing grease. Without this video I would never have known to check….until it was too late. Note to Stihl: Please change to a metal cased roller bearing not the plastic version.

@jefffrayer8238 2 жыл бұрын

Same plastic cage on camshafts of the Harley Twin Cam and Evo. Most owners replace with Torrington steel cage so I wonder if the same could be done on the saws? Hate to admit but in this case the plastic cage beaing held together as crank wore down.

@dougscrivens4002 2 жыл бұрын

I think you just saved me many pounds. Cheers from Redditch, 🇬🇧 England.

@themowerman 2 жыл бұрын

Good video mate.. hope your all keeping safe.. take her easy bud

@jensenwilliam5434 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@Michel-Artois 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dony, very useful video...as usual! Ce roulement ne se voit pas et on le néglige souvent. Le pire est aussi de nettoyer le coté pignon/chaine avec un coup de laveur haute pression , pour gagner du temps. Je l'ai déjà vu. L'eau rentre dans la cloche avec la pression , rien de pire pour accélérer la détérioration du roulement, de l'embrayage, de la pompe à huile...Une catastrophe si la machine est ensuite rangée pour un bon moment, ce qui est souvent le cas. Je te suis depuis la France avec beaucoup de plaisir! Michel

@robertdouglas3456 2 жыл бұрын

Great information Donny! Merry Christmas! 💥🎄

@hikerdude5265 2 жыл бұрын

Great Tip, thx.

@anemone104 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant! MS 362s do this too and if ignored, the rocking of the clutch drum on worn bearings and on the worn crank stresses the E-clip and its groove causing wear and the whole drum, sprocket and chain sometimes makes a bid for freedom out of the side of the clutch cover. Over 4 years I have consigned nine 362s to parts for one customer who runs a big saw fleet. The saws are excellent, robust and reliable and earn the money, but they get worked hard and maintenance just does not seem to happen out on site.... 1&2 series pro and semi-pro Husqvarnas had a greasing drilling in the end of the crank and had less issues. Without this, the clutch drum bearing just does not seem to get enough lube from chain oil alone.