I feel like Shatter should “Shatter” the illusions into two illusions where one chases enemies and blows up and the other goes to the nearest lowest ally to get absorbed and turned into healing or even overshield like Pip Also I feel like seeing you play and commentate at the same time gives it a more natural feel but do what you want to do

most new players have the auto-buy enabled by default and never change it, that's why you see new players with random items

As a lvl 100 Ying enjoyer, here are my thoughts to make her more viable: First, her Brittle Card at lvl 5 (Reduce Shatter cd by 5 secs) should be in base kit. I don't understand why it has high cd to begin with. It's not a particularly strong damage ability, plus it is completely dependent on another ability (her illusions), which has 5 secs cd. This card at 5 lvls is mandatory for Life Exchange and putting it on base kit would be a huge QOL change for her. Second, make her illusions heal faster! One illusion isn't even enough to reliably sustain a single ally (a retreating ally flank for example). 1.6 secs is just wayyy too long and by the time it starts to heal a significant amount, out-of-combat heal would've started anyway making it unreliable in the heat of a battle. I suggest her illusions to heal 300 every 1 sec (or 1.1 secs so that it has roughly the same hps as before). And third (which what I would like to see the most), add CC effects to her illusions! It doesn't have to be tied to her Shatter ability. It could be as simple as enemies who attack your illusion would be penalized with a reveal or a slow! Basically like how Saati's old dead ringer ability used to work. A simple change would bring new value to Ying since her illusions would now be able to act as a tool for zoning as well.

05:28 ying illusion being affected by mal damba's ult ... lol

I asked this in a recent video and it got a good amount of likes, so I figured I'd ask again in case you didn't see it: Have you ever thought of making a video to talk about talents, and how to change each champion to make all three talents per champion viable (but not busted) at higher levels of play?

Reduce shatter cooldown in base kit. Add a small dmg reduction on the target when healed. (say like 5% for 2 seconds)

LOVE the new intro!! SPOOKY SEASON!!

I feel like for Ying some changes that could be made to make her viable: Life exchange becomes base kit. Shatter is automatically a heal instead of a torpedo activation button. Shatters cooldown is 2s maximum. A new talent added would be: Increase the maximum number of Illusions by 1 and reduce illusion cooldowns by 1 second. Illusions do 15% less healing but when killed by an enemy reveals them for 2.5s and increases the damage they take by 12%. Brittle is changed to apply damage reduction to Ying for using shatter. With a 5s cooldown. Illusions have a base kit change where if they die they explode in a small radius and enemies caught in the explosion are rooted for 1s.

Hot take: this is why keywords should exists in some form, so newer players can more easily grasp the concept of main and damage supports. Maybe the boosts are an issue, but specifying and designing talents with that in mind would honestly help the support learning curve a ton.

They should put life exchange to her base kit and rework the talent spot because she doesn't feel like a good support the first time you play her and that confuses new players. To not lose the exploding clones i would put that ability exclusively to resonance. Obviously focusing lens should be nerfed otherwise ying would be way to op if she could heal and do insane damage.

I think it’s a really good idea to pre-record the gameplay so both the commentary and the gameplay will be better.

The common mistake with new players with items is thinking they can all items, like max out red items allows you buy all green/blue items Or buying bulldozer and not understanding what is a deployable. (Atlas shield/nyx shield etc)

that intro is godly

So.. A few ideas after watching. Caut is called that because of the item called cauterize, and if it wasn't bought then the team was throwing. What about making rejuv work like the new person thought it did? And the ONLY reason I am even giving that thought any amount of time to live in my head is because how important it is to buy(particularly tanks, but really everyone). In reference in Ying, rework one of the talents so that when her clones heal someone, they get DR or.. ult charge(internal CD).. or maybe when they clones expire/dies their explosion slows any enemy hit by for a short amount of time. Lastly idea about how to make her relevant, bring her old talent back where clones could double heal? It was removed because it was so OP at the time, but the game has shifted so far from that, it might actually just bring her in line now.

I think both types of commentary should be used, both during and after just could depend on the message you are trying to convey. As for ying, I think she would benefit from a more totem based heal from her illusions, like Grohk. The heals you get from the illusions directly are too weak and it only goes to one ally instead of a well-placed totem from Grohk could put out massive heals for your team. A straight up buff to her illusions could also be a slow for some crowd control around her illusions, or if it's turns out to be too busted even adding a slow kind of explosion to the teleport ability would make this difficult movement ability a little more useful.

Life exchange should be basekit, Ying's design is so weird I love the character but her core design needs changes in my humble opinion

you should try to prerecord a mini guide some time just to try it. maybe do it on a more technical champion like Evie or something i would be engaged af.

Hi Andrew. Id really like to see a Lilith guide.

Maybe they could buff her illusions health and add like a cripple aura to them? Or some type of cc?

Could you explain which talent for Io (LIFE LINK or GODDESS' BLESSING) pls

So whats the deal with Kinessa and her mine build? Is it that bad of a throw pick?

I wish they being back Ying's LifeLike talent. They shouldn't have removed 4 talents.

nice intro bro

The amount of time I've had to fill in as frontline and our only healer decides to go damage talent, I just wanna uninstall 😞

These changes coming with next update. YING Ability Illusion Illusion Health increased from 1000 ➡ 1500 Increased max Deployable count from 2 ➡ 3 Heal increased from 420 ➡ 500 Illusory Rift Half of the healing is now True Healing As one of our older Supports, Ying can’t always keep up with what a more modern Support can do. Unless Talented, her healing output is almost completely at the mercy on whether or not her clones can remain alive - and with AoE or stray shots in general it could be difficult for a Ying to keep up the pace. We’re buffing Illusion’s Health and healing output, while also allowing Ying to create one more, letting her more reliably have an Illusion out during important team fights. Perhaps most impactfully, Illusory Rift now has half of its healing set to True Healing. This means that regardless of Anti-Healing scaling, all allies will at least be healed for 2,400 Health, turning an Ultimate that often got shut down by Anti-Healing into a powerful push or defense enabler.

Record and playback also gives you the ability to pause playback to draw attention to something happening in a match, you cannot do that while recording.

Ecording after and lets see the results for both us and you :)

Well either way it is Andrew you’re entertaining so if you wanna commentate over pre recorded gameplay that’s fine, i can say though it is more engaging like this.

the curse continues

Would it make sense to make her illusions slow down enemies around them? You said she does not have any CC so maybe that would be an interesting buff for her🤔

I think we should rework Life Exchange to be a healing talent based on the illusions so that Ying players can heal and not just be heal bots with the right click, since that's the main contention with playing LE. She had that old talent that let the illusions target 2 people and that feels like an alright solution, but we can probably find better ones If we want to keep Life Exchange as is, I think we should give Resonance some healing capabilities somehow. Maybe the explosions can heal or something idk

make a vote if we want you to play and talk or pre record

it's very obvious that ying was designed with the longer TTK and "MOBA" style gameplay of early paladins in mind and her kit was just never evolved enough to keep up with how paladins gameplay has changed over the years. it makes me so sad :(

You should do more videos like this. The level of new player education in this game is HORRIBLE. This type of content should help. Btw you were really good here with Ying. Your teammates however were pretty weak. No amount of healing can make up for their low skill.

Ok now make a video on how to fix Kasumi

Ying should be like moira from overwatch with one button for heal and one for damage.

Ying's illusions are definitively the problem, the devs insist that they're good because they just look at the absolute numbers, but they're in dire need of some serious buffs. 1 - Make her illusions have charges instead of being separate cooldowns, this would allow her to deploy both at once for a bigger burst of healing. 2 - Make the illusions heal through walls, the base range is not that good and they heal slowly, letting them heal through walls would make it much easier to place them in safe spots without worrying about them not healing. 3 - Buff their base healing, at least an extra 200 per illusion, their base healing is abysmal, it takes too long for them to heal even a squishy. 4 - rework resonance to give Ying three juiced up illusions that benefits from her health and damage reduction cards, with 500 extra health and a 50% longer range, everything else stays exactly the same. this results in more consistent healing, a bigger damage burst, and maybe even a rare incentive to buy bulldozer since they would be much harder to destroy.

Honestly when i was a real nooby and new to this game, i used to think that life rip made it that my shots would deal increased damage! Kekw

Nice vid. Series has a talant witch gives her a -25% cat when she is doing dmg, I think this talant is better for healing in my opinion. Review it pls.

But what if I want to make this mistake with ying😢

Go back to 75% cauterize on tanks

16:30 That's not a bad idea, while we probably won't get reactions like this 12:48 (maybe I undermine chicken men talent right here, who knows if Andrew can fake reactions for pre recorded videos while still entertaining, like Josh Lets Game It Out) it will lead to better gameplay and more guide-is videos. You can record multiple videos for one champion, then cut where you make mistakes and explain it. or do both, live reactions, but you talk less when match gets hotter and add commentary later in that part. idk if thats going to help you focus more in the match.

Too many matches have been ruined due to yings

The idea of recording the gameplay before recording yourself talking is a good idea. I’d like to see you win for once!

I remember when she was viable without the healing talent.

I don't know how to fix ying, but i do know how to fix kasumi.

I am a firm believer that healing talents shouldn't exist, there shouldn't be a talent that straight up buffs your healing output because you're basically forced to pick it 90% of the time and even in the other 10% you get flamed for not picking the healing talent. I only ever play Ying as second healer with focussing lens because her base kit just cannot heal well.

Returned to the game as someone who plays casually and didn’t really know what I was doing. Team legit screamed at me for not taking life exchange as a solo heal…in a CASUAL game. Most toxic return to the game and was a big turn away for me for this game again. I get it I should have taken the talent, but I had no idea at the time.

ying healer is bad just play her as damage. the end. (with double support, never solo damage support)

Ok flank mains go wild flanks are the second reason matches are lost

Me who doesn't play Ying: 🗿

Stop slandering my boy like that, ripened gourd will be hard meta one day!