the fact that the furia used arguably her worst talent, and proceeded to blame the team for their incompetency rlly says it all.

Anti-healing is to keep healers in check. Each weapon shot applies it for 1.5 seconds. Early game, healers can get away with ignoring it, but later they will have to wait for them to cleanse it or they will just waste the cooldown. It used to be an item called Cauterize, so if you see someone mention Caut/Cauterize, that is what they are talking about. Sadly a lot of people don't cleanse it by hiding behind a wall/shield.

"I got killed by the bunny, and Waifus are on my screen!!" As a longtime player, this the most Paladins-thing I've ever heard😂

In regards to the "not being able to switch champions" part In Paladins matchups have a lot more to do with planning than the actual champion you are playing, that is done through the talents/decks you use and itens you buy, it's really similar to league in a way. for example: If I'm playing Maeve against a team with a lot of projectile champions, I pick my move speed deck to be harder to hit; If I'm playing against a lot of hitscan champions I use my resistance deck so I don't get as easily melted. I like this system a lot because it allows you to main a particular character and have the option to adapt to a bad matchup instead of having to play rock paper scissors with your characters like in Overwatch (I really love both games, I just prefer being able to one trick and happen to like card games too)

I get why people think it's an Overwatch clone a little bit, but honestly the only similarities are that they are both team/objective based shooters with different characters of class types instead of one character that you select the class of. Paladins was in alpha testing before Overwatch was announced, but has gone through SO many changes since then. I've played both games a lot ,and I prefer Paladins based on diversity alone due to talents and loadouts. I also like how you can't just keep switching characters to counter everything constantly. (Unless you're Zhin, Zhin can counter ults) Edit for misunderstandings: I'm not saying either is a copy of the other, just that calling Paladins a copy is not correct because it was first. They are their own things with similar inspiration. It's not that deep.

I understand your opinion. I love this game, but I also hate it sometimes, with the bugs, bad matchmaking, hackers, toxicity, afks, and bugs it has. It has a lot of potential, but Hi-rez just won't support anything that isn't Smite.

Keep in mind that about 50 people keep this game under development. Which should be about 20-30% of overwatch's team size, depending on which year we are talking about.

20:34 Fun fact: A lot of players especially on PC hated that change, which is why Hi-Rez added a legacy option in the game settings. Which allow it to be more user friendly, and give access to a few extra voice lines like "VVP = Please, VVGN = Nice Job, etc."

Loved that you gave the game a try. i love helping new players learn about the game

This game was originally going to be a completely different genre, but they changed it to this taking inspiration from TF2. The cards and talent used to be collected from chests similar to how TF2 has weapons you could get. It ended up being P2W. Also, the tutorial is terrible. The devs made a guide for new players outside of the game, but its not the best and was described as a fast solution. Hi-Rez never put that much money into this game.

i have 3473 hours on paladins also my account is maxed lvl 999 and i love this game so much i will just say that paladins is the superior game all it needs is just some polish and bug fixes and it would be so much better. you can customize your playstyle to whatever you want imagine a flanking sniper or a tanking flanker and the item shop in a match helps out and so no 2 games will ever be exactly the same even tho you might have the same comp on the opposing team. i played ow2 since it released until now and i can freely say even tho paladins player argue that the game is very out of balanced i beg to differ i'd say paladins is way more balanced then ow2. like come on makoa doesnt hook you when your 10 miles away but roadhog does ... hmmm ... in paladins even tho its a team game and its not reliant on teammates like ow2 in ow2 if your healers dont heal you then your basically dead unless you find a healthpack but in paladins you have out of combat healing to heal you back to full hp and you even have item shop stuff to help you with it. even when it comes to prices or cosmetics etc. its 10x cheaper then ow2 and the skins in paladins is so much more amazing i look at the skins in ow2 most of them look like a recolor of the original outfit even the legendaries only a few look unique but paladins skins have amazing fx and details to them like they look very eye catching. (can watch DaddyMouse videos for skins he rates paladins skins if they are worth for purchase or not) Overall i'd say paladins is better if only it were polished, get bug fixes and if they brought back the old game modes and made it in to arcade mode like ow2.

I totally agree with all your points. I was a big time Paladins player. Started in the beta. The game has gone through many and many permutiations of itself. If you look at content from random years of paladins good chance you see a totally different gameplay. Even in some core mechanics like the card loadouts and cards in general (OB64 was a notorious low point). They kept evolving the gameplay but never got the possibility to properly polish and remove bugs from the game. To this day this makes me incredibly mad because I saw this game I loved, in which I saw a lot of potential just die over the years. I used to play overwatch in parallel with this and fierciley defended it for years until it just became pointless because corporate greed at hi-rez kept pushing to just add more content and more micro-transactions.

anti heal is a great tool in the game cause in late will NOT make healing useless. In fact it makes it stronger, you have to time your heals right to hit your teammates when they are off the anti heal (you can know that by thr color of their healthbar). It gives a massive skill floor to healers, rewarding good players and punishing healbot whitout thinking

The flank role experience is tuff I tell you. As i main this role I had to get stomped so many times before figuring out how to play it semi-decently. If i were to describe what flanks are, it would be squishier damage dealers that trade their HP for mobility, allowing them to take alternate routes on the map in order to diatract or pick off support players. While im completely bias here, I found Maeve (the pink haired girl with the knifes) to be the most fun champion in the game. Still, i wouldnt recommend playing flank if youve just started playing the game, playing damage first would be a lot more optimal. Awesome video overall, wish both Paladins and Overwatch were better games and better organized but what can you do.

Loved the video man, personally play paladins and overwatch (although more paladins that overwatch since ow2). A couple of things i might be able to clear up around anti healing, it reduces healing for 1.5 seconds after you get shot so the way to counter it is to avoid being shot for 1.5s and then get healed, it used to be an item that most of your team would buy but with the old item system it was a choice between antihealing or increased damage to shields for each person on the team. It sort of exists to counter pocket playstyles and team comps like pirates (paladins version of GOATS sorta) and add a change of pace to each team fight as the game progresses. In terms of the amount of stuns that happens ALOT when you play a tank - I am a tank main so best i can recommend if you ever play the game again is max out a useful item called resilience as soon as you can! Definitely understand your criticisms of the game, wish hirez would fund it more so evil mojo could move it to a newer version of unreal and polish the design a bit. I can say that if you ever go into paladins again definitely do it with as many friends as want to join cause it makes the early learning stages of the game so much more bearable as u get into it. regardless the video was a very enjoyable watch!

As a person who plays both games i find paladins infinitely more enjoyable in general for a number of reasons (The talent system being one of the biggest reasons) i really wish evil mojo had more funding from Hi-Rez, but unfortunately Hi-Rez Is the kind of company to pump out games and Forget about old(er) titles. Paladins has been stuck in Unreal 3 for years due to a lack of Funding, Also evil mojo doesn't want to overwork and underpay employees so there's less Devs by a mile than overwatch.. but honestly I think thats fair given the player count. I main Torvald in paladins and Lucio in overwatch and honestly i don't personally think tanks in overwatch are as fun as paladins tanks, i rather Play Nyx over ramattra. Also Good video btw, really Well put together

The fact that you liked Azaan made me laugh because on release he was the most broken tank, he was able to solo the entire team with little to no help from your teammates😭😂

Here's a deep-down explanation for Anti-heal: Anti-heal is one of the core mechanics of Paladins, formerly known as Cauterize or Caut. It exists to add depth to the game and create a metagame for healers. Anti-Heal starts low at first and gets higher as the match goes. How Anti-Heal works is that, when somebody shoots you, you get the status effect called "reduced healing" for whatever amount Anti-Heal currently is, for 1.5 seconds. You also apply the same effect to your opponents when you shoot them. For example, if Anti-Heal is 50%, and you get shot, if your healer heals you for 1000 hp, you'll only get healed for 500 hp if the "reduced healing" effect is active during the heal. Not getting shot again for 1.5 seconds (till the effect wears off) "cleanses" you and you'll be able to get full healing again. Healers in Paladins heal a lot more compared to the healers in Overwatch. They start out OP in early game because they can outheal almost anything, but in mid-game and late-game, you have to be a lot more careful and smart. In early game, big heal numbers are strong, but in late game, Anti-Heal goes all the way up to 90% which basically makes healing nonexistent, which makes Damage Reduction better in late-game (all healers except one have DR abilites) 90% seems OP, right? That basically erases healing from the game. But actually, the whole point of late-game is successfully managing to play around Anti-Heal, its what determines good players and bad players. Its what makes Paladins Paladins tbh. This mechanic adds a lot to the game. It adds more value, more skill, and more fun for a lot of gameplay mechanics. Shields, positioning, timings, and certain abilites all have new untraditional uses because of this. First off, there is more to healing then just your healer. Your teammates cant just run around mindlessly and wait for healing, they have to move properly in order to get heals. Your healer can play perfectly but if the person demanding for healing is constantly getting shot they'll get cauterized to constantly and your healer cant do anything to save you. Its not their fault at this point. So, there is as much thought and effort the person RECEIVING the heal has to put as the healer themselves, its a 50/50 team work. This makes it more satisfying to receive heals because YOU also played a role in that healing and not just got saved by the big mommy healer, but it can be a little annoying if YOU are THE HEALER and the teammates constantly take damage and flame you for not healing afterwards. Shields can "cleanse" your Cauterize. Almost the entirety of shields in Paladins are NOT meant to be used as actual shields, but a tool. If you deploy your shield, you wont get cauterized even if your shield gets shot. So, even if you are under heavy fire, opening your shield briefly for 1.5 seconds and cleansing Cauterize will enable your healer to heal you back up where without utilizing the shield, it wouldnt be possible because of Anti-Heal. Shields have super low hp compared to the Overwatch counterparts and wrecker exists, so you have to use them sparingly, primarily using them to counter Cauterize especially in late game. Heal timings and different types of heals also find different amounts of value depending on the Caut level and usage. For example, channel heals similar to Mercy's, are super strong in the early game as they can be used more freely, in any amount you please and much more frequently, where burst heals are stronger in the late game because with 90% caut you almost will never get a full 3 seconds of Uncauterized window to heal your teammate with hold-to-channel heals, you just wont have enough time. Rather, you'd just use burst heal abilites on them in the brief moment where there is no cauterize and heal them for the full amount. The power of burst healing. (Some healers have heal over time abilites and some have burst heals, former being stronger in early game and the latter being stronger in late game. Do note that its not a "tradeoff" by any means and they both can work flawlessly no matter the game stage, it all comes down to the player's skill.) This makes healing timings *super* important. If you're playing grover, if you carelessly pop the heal everytime, you'll heal during caut most of the time which will heal like 150 hp, but if you carefully watch your teammates healtbars and time your heals in the brief time windows where they dont have caut, you'll heal a massive 600 hp burst. You can even apply DR with Grover with the correct build. Abilities. Some abilites find value in that they counter cauterize really well. Skills that make you ethereal (like Grohk's ghost walk) are long enough that your caut will cleanse itself and your healer will have a big time window where you cant get damaged (cant get cauted) but can be healed. Grohk can put down totems and use ghost walk to heal himself to full, during 1v1s, even with 90% cauterize in play. And one final way to counter cauterize, is a shop item. Rejuvenate. It says "get 30% more healing from other plsyers" in its description, when most players read that, they think the effect procs after caut, so with 90% caut, you'd get 10% --> 13% healing, but no. You get 40% healing with 90% caut. That is a very considerable amount of healing for the late game. It makes heal-over-time heals more viable late game and gives more room for error for burst heals, because the entirety of your heal wont get butchered because you missed the heal by 0.003 seconds. All while making uncauterized heals even more stronger. Do note that the player RECEIVING the heal has to buy rejuvenate. Most of the time, only tanks buy it, except some special cases. Cauterize also pretty much buffs Flankers as the match progresses, where the big carries happen. Flankers can turn into literal killing machines as the problem of healers are gone. And one final thing that I should've said earlier, if your teammates' health bars are that yellowish green, they currently have Cauterize. If they have the normal blue health bar, they are clean.

It made me sad to see that you weren't really enjoying it, but I understand. It's hard to get into it without someone to guide you, and that happened to me when I switched to OW2. I hated it because there were no damage numbers so I really didn't know if I was landing my shots or if the enemy had DR, and abilities are poorly explained while in Paladins damage values and crowd control effects are thoroughly described for most abilities. Now I play OW2 everyday but it took me a while to learn what to do and what to not do. I still prefer Paladins gameplay, mechanics and QoL features (like being able to see a feed of all the damage sources that hit you before dying, for when you say HOW TF DID I DIE), but the matchmaking is awful and has gotten worse.

For the anti healing, the reason it was added as a passive is because it used to be an item you buy, but here is the thing, it was an absolute must have item, by making caut/anti healing passive, it is no longer an item in a shop, which opens more possibility to buy other items over the anti heal. Also If anti heal did not exist, then support would be absolute meta, there was already a sustain meta that was very annoying to face, so I am thankfull it exists.

I personally wrote the game off being an overwatch player till they announced the cancellation of pve and I admittedly got butthurt about it. But I’m now 100+ played already and must say I’m have more fun in ranked paladins then I’ve had in ranked OW since we got OW2

gonna make it big, great editing and soothing voice. subscribed and will continue to watch

This video was funny and well edited. As a person who has only played OW2 though, I feel like you should have shared what you were learning about Paladins more throughout the video

Thing about cauterise is it either feels like absolute garbage or it feels intuitive, and it entirely depends on your teammates. Caut's supposed to incentivise your teammates to retreat if they need heals instead of just juggernauting and screaming at healers for not keeping them alive. The fact it lasts so short means its pretty easy for a tank to just breathe it off by holding up their shields, and flanks can just retreat and it wears off quite quick.

The point of cauterize is to have game progression (applies for items too). It forces people to adapt playstyles when the game approaches endgame. As people stated in the comments cauterize / anti-heal gets applied when you are hit with weapon damage and it lasts for 1,5s. It used to be an item called cauterize, but it was so must have that the devs made it into a ramping passive effect instead so that you can have more item build variety as otherwise you'd basically be forced to buy cauterize and use up one item slot. Cauterize (as the item was called back then) / anti-heal gives the game progression where you need to adapt your gameplay the later you get into the match as anti-heal and items such as wrecker get stronger. This is a very old key design principle that the devs made back in the day that they want to have in the game. Combat gets more deadly as you can't actively be healed through it, but you have to not be hit to first drop cauterize in order to get healed. Alternatively you can buy items such as rejuvenate to mitigate cauterize. Same with shields in terms of wrecker. You will have less and less up time on shields as they get destroyed faster and faster due to increased shield damage from wrecker. These mechanics, however, were developed and designed SPECIFICALLY for siege, which is the main gamemode. This can lead to the other modes feeling chaotic, as you described in the video. Siege is the best gamemode by far imo and the rest is just filler for casual play to have fun in. Im a last split master player and always like to interact with people about the game as I feel like it is highly underrated as just an OW clone and people forget all the cool and unique things Paladins does. The added depth and complexity from talents, items, loadouts etc. has always been more intriguing to me compared to what OW has going for it, which is why I've always highly preferred paladins over OW. If you have any other questions about the game, feel free to hit me up! I'm called Darkonode in game.

talents loadouts and items are the things that make paladins special

Anti-Healing is a debuff that wears off really quickly but can get reapplied without diminishing returns. So if a tank just soaks and doesn't take cover, he dies. If he takes cover for 1.5 sec or so, you can then heal him normally. It's basically Anas nade from Overwatch but it doesn't entirely stop heals going through.

I've heard before that it takes 10,000 hours to become actually good at something, so where tf this "20 hour" claim came from is beyond me

First you have to customize your own loadouts. They make it better as you can fit stuff to your playstyle but there are some champions who only has some cards that are just overall better. Second, counters are base on items. If you getting CC, get resilience. If you are going against a lot of shields, Wrecker. Going against a lot deplorables, Bulldozer. If the champion name starts with an S, Illuminate. S for stealth.

Been playing both games for years and the only flaws of Paladins imo are the graphics and slow gameplay comparing to OW, all the rest Paladins does it better. It’s a shame it’s not a bigger company, if it was more polished it would be insane…Paladins hardware on Overwatch software would be the perfect game !! Anyway great vid, nice editing, you deserve more subs ! 😁

Dont know if anyone mentioned it but the anti healing used to be an item called cauterize. It caused healing reduction on people you attack. Since everyone bought it (and some balancing reasons) they made it a passive thing. I commented this before seeing that you looked it up.

Im subbing just for the tunes in the op you have great taste and the challenge was awesome ❤️

they both have their ups and downs, if paladins had the old paladins monetization but kept all the new characters it would be better. But I still prefer hi-rez as they don't openly admit to being anti-union and are actually good with their employee's (they don't skip out on cash and actually hire new people to pump out high quality content, which is very consistently good during year 10 of smite! They make alot of BIG changes to test the waters, after all it takes a big disruption to see where everything stands. If everything is balanced its way harder to make the meta items not super bad since you need to nerf them so other ones get spotlight time.)

Hi paladins bet here! As there are loadout cards that heal a ton as well as supports that heal for stupid numbers, anti heal mechanic simply rewards positioning and being able to peel out of anti heal for them to get topped off and go back in the fight. During shield meta’s for example you absolutely wont be able to kill anything without anti-heal. To remove you will need to rework the damage scaling system and the healing scaling system. Previously (antiheal) was a purchasable item with credits that you collect after capturing or getting kills etc, which rewarded flankers and AOE characters a lot enabling them to dive easily and not see the enemy’s hp bar go up while dealing consistent damage. But when you played the game as it currently is compared to how was in the past, its passive now based on how long the match has been going for. it caused a huge meta shake because there is the possibility of getting rolled cuz you simply can’t kill a thing in well coordinated team fights. I tried to explain it as best as i could but there is a lot of stuff that i didnt go into such as shield reset mechanics or damage reduction ratios that different tanks have that make it extremely necessary to have such a mechanic in the game to be able to establish your own will on the game and the tempo. As the game currently stands, it has seen better days i consider giving it a more in-depth play time as the loadout system as it currently stands is one of the most fun things in the game being able to customize the whole character’s kit to your own preference and play style and something that really just feels right !

In ranked there’s a draft system, so you can counterpick your opponent, that’s also why you can’t swap characters after locking them in. Personally i prefer that over being able to swap at any point in overwatch

Bro straight up jumped to playing flank with 3h experience, that's the hardest role man, demanding tactical experience, mechanics, outplay mentality, outside the box thinking, decision making, map awareness and maps tricks, fast thinking, different loadouts and items depending enemies and allies then yes, flanking enemies😂

I loved paladins and umped alot of hours in it. Prefered it over Overwatch just for the card system but patch OB61 killed the game for me. Great video! Loved your talking points

what an underrated channel

I can appreciate that you at least gave the game a shot. I play it now over Overwatch simply because whenever I play Overwatch 2 in hit with crippling depression seeing what the game has become since the golden days that I played during.

Ahh it takes me back. I've spent 1800 hours on Paladins back in the day before i switched to Overwatch full time.

the game feels like an AI-generated mashup of every riot, blizzard, supercell, and valve IP. Its mostly impossible to tell whats going so I don't really play it

I loved the flank segment :D I kinda hoped you'll play evie as well (arguable the hardest champ in the game) Probably others already said this (and it's coming from a kind of flank main) the class is called "flank" but that doesn't mean you always go for flanks. They are better to look at as a higher mobility dps (there are exceptions of course). So a better way to think about flankers is to play as a dps slightly to the side and look for low hp targets mainly supports and jump on them if you have a window of opportunity

Ed, he’s a good damage dealer as well. I’m really not a top he’s all-around just a great character but you got to stay at a distance to be fair most of the the best style I found and I just unlocked him. Yesterday was the talent that increases his damage the further you are away, which he’s really a sniper with acts yeah with an ax and it does a lot of damage and you can still get the hills off.

The anti-healing in paladins used to be a purchasable item used that when you damage enemy players the healing they get from teammates is less but they made it built-in the point of it is to make the game go quicker and if that didnt exist people wont die in the game it depends what stage you are in the match like if u didnt capture anything 25% when the payload spawns raises and goes on till its 90% and that doesnt make it always anti-healing.

omg as a player with 700 lv on this game, I'm glad you can have fun around the games here :') the matchmaking can be lackluster and im glad you got a friend to hang out with.

Go into settings, fnd VGS and change it to legacy. Its a lot better.

Ok so Cauterize, the thing deminishing the healing used to be one of the upgrades you pay for in the early days you could only get one upgrade per category and for many DPS characters it was probably the most efficient way to do their job, but it was overall inoffensive. Over time you stopped having to pick between upgrading reload speed and tanking heals AND people realized how effective it is. Also healers are very versatile in the game. Pip has been a viable flanking option since at least 2017, same goes for damage Ying and so on, so it became the meta upgrade. Eventually it got so bad you could get yelled at if you didn't go for caut first thing in the match, even with a single shot weapon (with the effect of the upgrade only lowering the heal for one second after being damaged) and important skills to lower the cooldown off, so devs decided to do something about it. They couldn't remove it because a full team of healers could 100% pull a win agins a properly picked team (I've done that, before and imagine if such team actually had a tank to focus on), so they decided to cut the potential harassment / purchasing mistakes and gave it to everyone for free.

i love playing this game whenever i get frustrated with overwatch because its just so chaotic and unserious

It was probably not better

Paladins > Overwatch stay mad

To be honest, this game was a really good idea. Played it for a good bit after I quit Overwatch. Paladins did 5v5 before it was cool. It also took advantage of its MOBA roots with the Talent system, Card system, and mid-game upgrades, which was cool as hell. I really like these ideas, but my main issue is how they were executed. Starting years of Paladins were actually quite good despite the game being labelled as an OW clone. I found out about it because of that and tried it out when I saw it was free. Had an odd amount of fun playing Bomb King and Ruckus, but kinda fell off since nothing felt snappy nor satisfying. Not one to judge visuals too much, but I do judge animations quite hard. A good animation, whether it shows the great strength your weapon has or the many other things it can achieve, can literally make any boring ass weapon cool as hell. Take COD MW 2020, which was a violently okay game, but exploded because of how beautiful the animations were (visuals weren't even the biggest deal). First game to make widescale Godtier animations, and it carried the whole game. Everything felt powerful, snappy, and satisfying, but Paladins lacks this entirely. I like Makoa, but the way he throws his anchor feels flimsy. His cannon, although big and loud, doesn't do a lot of damage. Many characters share these problems, and it's an odd problem because not many people address it. How characters or weapons "feel" will either keep or throw players out your game, because if your characters / weapons feel like shit, then why use them? I did come back when I saw Khan cause he was cool as fuck. This was my longest time playing Paladins, which was the period I mained Khan and he thankfully felt strong with his powerful full auto pistol revolver clusterfuck and could throw people everywhere. Absolutely badass character, but the issue is that he was the only character I liked. This leads into another issue: lackluster kits. Paladins did what OW2 is doing right now but way earlier, which is add a lot of characters very fast. This seems awesome, but the issues are clear as day, even in OW2. Kits are boring. You get higher quantity, but worse quality. Because of this, a lot of characters were either boring thematically or boring practically. Characters never felt cool until later into the games lifespan when the Paladins teams became more loaded. Even then, the only character I like to this day is Khan, which sucks. Paladins is a really, really good concept, but its execution is very subpar. Some people got into it, but unfortunately, I did not. Apparently, Paladins had a wide variety of community issues, whether it be rabbid toxicity or whatever the hell. Game just dropped the ball, and it's obvious seeing how niche it has become and how it never really had a big "break". Unfortunate really, but it is what it is.

Used to love playing Paladins, since I didn't have a system (or good enough pc) for Overwatch having a game similar to it gave me lots of enjoyment. Even though I feel like I couldn't do good in the game anymore just like with SMITE (another game from the company) and the fact they got so many great VA's for it made me all the more happy.

seems like a skill issue tbh.

that rice part took me out lmao .. def satisfied that I didn't skip! good vid man

As someone who has no team for Overwatch 2 and is bad at it I gave up playing really early into its life so ima give this game a try see how it goes

You can change the voiceline wheel in the configs, and I'll advise doing so, I had an aneurysm when they added it but they kept the option to change back to hoe it was before and it's way better

Enjoyed the video, uh first time seeing your content and this makes we want to play paladins tbh lol. You made it look like fun (:

the thing is paladins came out first its been in production for as long as the day overwatch was made

I think other people have explained the history so I'm just going to say: Cauturaize makes it more important to play strategically. At the start of the game its possible to brute force your way through situations if you have healers (as opposed to utility supports) but the longer the game goes on the smarter you have to play. You cant just constantly stand in the front line even as a tank, you need to take breaks so the healers can heal you efficently. Youll have noticed there also arent any one shots in the game: Paladins is slower than OW, and most people take that as a bad thing but its a big reason why I like it. Hitting a nasty shot is good, but it doesn't immediately end a duel. You have to out think the opposition to win, not just outgun them.

My first two mains so far into the game have been tiberius and azaan. Bro just like me fr Gonna try VII next, his mag dump plus the reload buffs basically mean constant spammage and I love it

I know people in the comments touched on it more but the anti-heal used to be an item and was so overcentralized that not going it was literally throwing so that's another reason why it was added that I haven't seen touched on

In paladins the anti-heal used to be an item that yiu could buy. But like literally every character would buy it every game so they just made it a feature so you had more customization with what you buy

The point of anti healing is because the supports in this game heal for alot, so to try and move away from healbots there is antiheal. on primary fire hits it is applied for a short time, after that time ends healing is restored to normal, hits refresh the duration. The job is on the person who wants to be healed to make themselves the time for the anti heal to fall off (could walk behind a wall, put up a shield, or use certain abilities like grohks ghost walk), and on the support to be attentive enough to see when it has fallen off to heal them (the health bar is a different shade of green when an ally is under the effect of anti healing). It makes for a higher skill ceiling when it comes to being a support and for others it becomes a skill to get out of anti healing long enough to get healed. If you read through the items in game you would notice there is one to increase healing received by up to 30%, this directly counters anti healing (for example if anti heal is at -50%, that 30% is cumulative so you will be at -20% healing received while under the effect of anti heal. There is also an item called resilience which reduces the effects of cc (stuns, slows, etc) so to complain about being stunned all the time is kinda void since its head countered by resilience. They made a new and returning players guide on their website that explains alot of these thins, not in great detail but enough for new players to get a grasp of the various mechanics that make this game unique and dynamic throughout the match and skill levels.

I first played paladins during its open beta and really enjoyed it. I've noticed the flaws and taken breaks now and then but the one thing that made me stop playing for a while was the anti-healing change. When it was a rare debufg on certain moves or a buy in match shop it was tolerable because it wasn't always active but when they made it apply for every hit from every person, as a support main, i did better in TDM than actual point missions since my healing abilities were so nerfed. Plus little changes to characters abilities and cards ruined a few of my favorite play styles that i used for years. Grover was the big one. I have him at rank 21, hes my favorite champion, but they changed his abilities last time i played and hes just not as good anymore, yet i see more people use him since the anti heal makes his area heal the only consistent heal you can rely on.

Paladins developed a year before Overwatch/Titan was in development . Overwatch has taken stuff from Paladins and Paladins has taken stuff from Overwatch through the years as each game has developed, the Original torb ult was basically Vulcan Ult from smite, Mauga ult is Odin +Ares ult from smite. nothing wrong with borrowing ideas and changing them slightly to fit your own game.

Since Paladins is a moba, it adopted the moba commonality where heals are passively anti healed when out of combat. This is to encourage finishing fights and not running away to get full healed. Essentially, this makes healers only effective when the target already has an incoming source of damage.

Antiheal is probably to counter stalling matches and starts like goats.

the anti-healing used to be a buyable perk, it was basically a must buy so i think they just decided to make it a part of the game normally

you are absolutely right about Paladins, but mainly because it's not new player friendly. It requires too much knowledge to have fun. Once you understand how this game works, it's quite fun and yet still very frustrating to play from time to time due to bugs, hacks, bots, insanely bad match making etc.

Hi! I’m the guy who posted the “very helpful comment” about anti-heal (aka cauterize). I think a big detriment of paladins is that it’s an extremely complex and competitive-catered game, but there is nearly zero official education available for a lot of the complex mechanics that take place. For example, the entire healing mechanic is not that complicated, but still requires an explanation. A lot of new players (I’m assuming yourself included) are thrown into the mess and don’t know anything about: - Anti-heal (and how it’s applied by any enemy weapon attacks and how it increases over time as the match progresses) - How to cleanse anti-heal (don’t get hit by enemy weapons for 1.5 seconds, and you’ll get full healing) - Out of combat healing (don’t shoot or get hit for 5 seconds and you’ll start regenerating) And that’s just for healing alone. Knowing this means that certain team comps work better in the early game, where high-output supports can pocket their team through all damage, while other comps work better late game if they’re less reliant on healing and shielding. These nuances dictate the pace and flow of the game. There’s so many hidden mechanics that are taken for granted at a high level, but people don’t really learn about it naturally.

"Maybe it's a special needs badge" Well, it actually means that they bought the battlepass, so, yeah it's basically the same thing and I wear it all the time

As someone who has 1200 hours on Paladins and tried OW2 for a bit I could write an essay on why Paladins gameplay has more depth to it, but the game itself is still kinda buggy and difficult to understand at first But things like the item store, loadouts and talents make the gameplay more diverse and adaptable You don't like anti heal, then buy rejuvenate from the item store or learn how to actually know when to retreat and avoid it Don't like being stunned into oblivion? Then buy resilence which can reduce effects of cc by 75% Or if your support's useless you can build a loadout around self healing or buy healing items But you'd need more than 20 hours to learn all these things which is why it can seem unappealing at first

The antiheal effect feels less bad if your tank knows how to cleanse it for heals but its so punishing for new players

Genuinely shocked to see that you're under 1000 subs. Quality content dude, keep at it.

To hit a few points kinda briefly and all at once: 1. Flanks are "support dps", they're supposed to help win duels. 2. Supports are paired with tanks and their healing is supposed to be paired with some tupe of utility like damage reduction or speed buffs. When not with a tank or just for funsies, they can act as another dps- a couple of them are designed with that intention in mind. So cauterize is supposed to be felt but ignorable because your focus is on other things beyond healing.

I mean… you did summarize why my friends have a hard time trying to get OW friends to give Paladins a try. There’s a lot of information that just isn’t exactly explained and is learned via osmosis of playing. Going in with an OW mindset also dampens the feeling. However the people that gave it a try from a moba background liked it more. Instead of characters being hard counters to each other, the items are designed to counter the strategies or how the game is going. Cauterize originally was an item but everyone bought it flat out so they just integrated it into the game. I think what about it that people end up enjoying about Paladins is that this is very much the game experience ends up being what you make of it. Personally playing both OW and Paladins, and I don’t have as much fun in OW as I do in Paladins. OW I get more upset at my own teammates as game goes by because of how gameplay is, I end up just feeling stuck. There’s only so much a support can do. Likewise Paladins a support can end up being the reason why a game turns around. Grohk, Pip, and Seris can do a lot of healing, but they can also consistently put damage. Support also have a lot of CC, which technically gets countered by Resilience (Item shortens CC effects) Overall, Paladins has alot of depth, Overwatch relishes in its simplicity. Maximum enjoyment of Paladins ends up with people who figure out the depth of Paladins and what they can do. None of the characters are essentially locked in what they are capable of, like Ruckus is best played as an Offtank/Brusier but he has a point tank/main tank playstyle but it makes his job harder. Also.. Flanking in this game takes a different mindset. You got mobility and damage over survivable sustain. As my friend puts it, Play like a little bitch. Or guerrilla warfare is the way to go. It’s shame you won’t give this game more of a chance, but I do understand why you feel the way you feel

Caut basically has to be in the game, otherwise it would be unplayable. There are way to many ways to heal in a battle, for example Skye (invisible flank) has a card that allows her to heal for up to 350 hp/s when she is in her shroud with right talent, add to that someone like Mal Damba, who also has very strong regen ability that he can basically reaply forever on a single target and you would get an unkillable flank that can only be bursted down. Same goes for almost every other character. Caut basically fixes an excessive healing issue

After the pve news one of my OW friend groups jumped ship to Paladins (melodramatic fuckers). So, I downloaded it too. I think my first impression of this overwhelmingly janky game was that I was enjoying its novelty. I'm a Lucio main, and got addicted to Evie because her kit is GOATED. - The card system: It allows you to talor your kit to your own playstyle. I like it, but prefer OW's simplicity. In OW you form a relationship with a hero's kit and it allows for better clarity in ult/ability cooldown tracking. - Item/perk system: I can see it leading to unnessasary disadvantages in game. For one, the team that plays better earns more credits. This gives them an advantage when they were already winning. Say youre getting cc'd a lot, you essentally have to upgrade cc resistance which puts you and your team behind in the "credit/item economy" relative to the enemy team. Also, there is so much cc like wtf. - Seige: It is literally the only good game mode. It is also phenominal and I really wish it was in Overwatch. - Polish: OW. Visual and auditory feedback matter. - Store/cosmetics: Yes, fuck Blizzard, but also where are these crazy ass skins I keep seeing Paladins players talk about? Also, I stopped getting lootboxes like 3 days in and its gonna take me at least a few months and 69billion commercials before I get enough diamonds for a single skin (OW2 moment). OW > Paladins

14:40 Some supports are really strong healers in this game. So in order to let the game actually flow and not just a competition between one team’s healer and the other’s, there’s the anti-healing

"oh i dont like that wheel" No one does. Only HiRez seems to enjoy the idea behind that damned wheel

Yeah, I played this game when it was in super early beta. And it was a neat new game, but yeah I shelved it for probably close to a decade waiting for the entire experience to polish up to at least a fraction of Overwatch's polish. So here's me with a donkey's head all this time later and it doesn't look any different from 2016.

for a small channel, you've got some pretty good editing my guy! Audio isn't bad either, could be better, but it always can. Even Tucker Carlson has audio problems and that guy's a millionaire with musk on his six. Anyhow, it's good to see some good ol' palman's gameplay, thanks for putting it up

i really like ur channel it’s so cozy

i think i found it interesting that lots OW players have trouble enjoying paladins, while a lot of paladins players have trouble enjoying OW.

I have 1.3K hrs on OW and 1.5K on Paladins. Rank on OW : Master 1 DPS and Master 2 Support, Dia 1 Tank. Rank on Paladins : I don't play ranked. *Now let me add my two cents* *POSITIVES* 1). The most fun part in Paladins is actually the the card building and how can you mix-max your playstyle, and you're not even bother touching that, so that's a huge miss. Welp, you tried to do that in 20 hrs, so at least you tried. Those decision will affect your DPS (Damage Per Second) and it gives you dopamine boost seeing how the numbers popup changes. For example "Kinessa" used to have a legendary (talent) where you get more damage if the enemy is affected by mines, so running a card with 5 mines is viable, and your whole playstyle will change because of that. There's even a Flank Kinessa build. 2). The most fun role in Paladins imo is actually the Support, yes. This is coming from a DPS player on OW. Support playstyle is very anti pocket healing and more about everything else. Paladins support is crazy fun, because you can actually build the dps playstyle on it, and not just one playstyle for one hero. My favorite is Furia with her stun beam and maldamba. Ying DPS is also fun, there's even a dedicated guide on how to build DPS supports. If you think playing support like how mercy plays is fun, then Paladins really isn't for you. I can't name a single support that isn't in Paladins tbh, even ghrok is really fun if you run the Chidori build with bouncing electricity. *NEGATIVES* 1). While Paladins is fun in terms of gameplay, the devs really never focuses on polish. Polish on fixing bugs, polish on clunky movement, etc. Most old bugs in paladins are still recurring even to the recent time I played it. I truly believe Lead Programmer or whoever made the decision to halt this fixes to focus on something else is not focused on making Paladins a good game, let alone compete with Overwatch. 2). Hero lock in game and no role selection like in overwatch. It's frustrating when you don't have a tank and you already know it's GG from the start of the round. 3). I've stopped playing Paladins like 4-5 years ago because my disappointment from above statements. Once a year or two I tried to download the game and play it again just to see how much have changed, mostly I just become disappointed and uninstalled it again after 1 or 2 games. *CAUTERIZE* (The negative healing shit) - Seeing how stupid mercy buff and Kiriko suzu, I hope there's caut is actually added in overwatch. OW2 is slightly better since there's only a tank and goats are not a thing, but it's still annoying. If your team or you not playing a Hit-scan to shoot the mercy, then it's GG. Kiriko suzu is retarded, literally much better than bap's immortality. Suzu literally counter all ult, all fucking ult. it's fucking retarded. In OW2 support is not as fun as DPS. Kiriko is fucking busted, LW is useless, Ana is useless in high rank since everyone will counter with Kiri, etc. - In Paladins at least, all this Support can adapt their playstyle to fit the late condition of cauterize, even if they have to go DPS. Support playstyle is very anti pocket healing.

Of course it is. Character variety and how interesting the characters are. In game buying, to be tactical. The card system, to hugely change how each character can be played. Even much nicer skins.

Anti-healing is basically nerfing supps later in the game and it used to be a item u would have to buy but it was always a must build so it was annoying to buy so they made it into a thing that just automatically happens throughout the game because it would waste a slot of a item.

I know I'm super late to the party, and someone's already explained it, but the anti-heal used to be a purchasable ability called cauterize, much like chronos and lifesteal and stuff. In one patch like a year or two ago, they got rid of cauterize and just gave people base anti-heal on shot, which I personally don't like. I preferred it when it was an item that you had to buy. It felt more strategic, and with the change supports feel kinda useless.

Paladin's legacy VGS (Voice Guided System) is easier to remember than the wheel thing.

The point of the antihealing is that the game has to much healing going around at once so that's how the game tryst to keep healers in check so they don't power creep

The anti heal I believe is to also make pocketing less easy. Before it was base kit, not having anti healing made damn near impossible to kill tanks and certain characters.

I am a Buck main, he may be a flanker but he can easily be played as a dps or even off-tank with the right build. I think hes the healthiest flank, plus he has a healing ability.

i honestly didn't realize how bad the healing debuff is in late game, cause i play cringe ass flanks, till i saw this. like damn it should probably stop at 55% so it keeps the penalty, but it doesn't make heals non existent if you get swarmed. paladins honestly has had alot holding it back from being better like the switch port that just got dropped, the small studio that is honestly doing what it can to not overwork the devs, and highrez starting and killing projects unless it's smite. honestly the fact it's a highrez game and hasn't been axed in favor of smite is a miracle in and of itself. with the switch no longer getting support hopefully the devs can focus on more of the problems with the game at a faster rate. in the past few updates the devs have basically put this game on a bit of a redemption arc fixing more of the big issues. they added limited time modes, put payload back in which was wanted by veteran players for a long ass time, nurf some over tuned champs, finally finished giving every champ a gold skin, and more. i personally don't play the game that often so i don't have some more technical criticism or anything, but love and hope hirez doesn't kill it before it can become the great game it honestly could be.

I used to play a lot of Paladins during the Beta and it was pretty fun but way less chaotic than what you're footage looks like. Actually it was my first FPS. Played a lot of Maeve and Skye. Then I played OW a bit and later on I wanted to see if Paladins has changed. It was the phase where I practiced aiming (specifically flick aiming since my mousepad is tiny af) in OW so I rolled people with Kinessa because the other characters' talents/loadouts changed a lot. Also I discovered Seris who seemed pretty OP at the time. Anyway I think it's a fun game to play every now and then but there's like almost no teamplay whatsoever compared to OW

funnily enough paladins was in developement before overwatch was even being developed. Paladins coming from a smaller studio of course meant they didnt release sooner so people just call it a clone of overwatch.

Ngl this is a good video format for other games I think u can make a series out of this

lol the two characters you bought were also my starting mains when I played Paladins back in the day. Ying was my starting support.

My boy shoved the meat of the critique into a sped up snippet but made me sit through 2 days talking bout how nothing happened.

people already explained, but cauterize used to be one of the items, so your primary weapon shots gets you more in combat kills, as enemy cant heal while they're fighting you. They have to hide for 1.5 seconds, then they can be healed properly. Pip, the fox dude was so good if people didn't buy cauterize. Youre super agile, they're slowed, taking 840 damage per shot, while you're just bouncing around, if you get low health, just heal yourself for instant 2000 health and yeah... You could just wreck people with pip, especially in low to mid ranks. If people bought cauterize 3 which is 90% heal reduction, then pip as flanker got pretty fked, as now you cant heal mid combat, your 2000 heal became 200 heal. Everyone bought the item so they made it part of the game and added a new item. But that was at the point game was going downhill and people on mass leaving due to bad servers.

Fun Fact: Paladins used to be VERY different. Literally you would get these chests that would have the cards in them, yes the cards and your ability to rank up... were tied to loot boxes... Literally no one liked it and yes it was essentially pay to win. Cauterize (the red plus mark) used to be an item you could buy during the match, and yes, it felt awful then too. Not sure what the new system they have for it, but tbh it looks awful. Might reinstall and break my balls for a few hours, see what is new.