Hey man, I see that you don't make videos anymore. These videos on map making in Krita are amazing! Hope you are doing well, and it would be a blast to see if you have improved your skills/gotten any new insane tricks (I would love just a 2-3min video on a quick tip here and there)

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I just draw my maps on paper. It’s not at hard as you’d think, and it makes them look really good and really unique.

Lots of free map/cartography assets out there, especially photoshop brushes that can be used with Krita. I'd also suggest creating a layer with your continent texture and then a black layer below that. Draw on the black with white for your continents. Throw them into their own group. When finished, you click "a" inherit alpha button on your texture layer(make sure it is above the continent alpha you just drew). You can apply the stroke and glow effects to your group. You can also use just white on transparent and that way you can move continents around easier.

You can actually get your maps to look good in Campaign Cartographer, especially if you are using one of the art sets contributed by one of the pros like Mike Schley... it's just that Campaign Cartographer is not an art program and doesn't have an a UI anything like an art program so you have to do a lot of work to get your mind around basically using CAD as a paint brush, doing everything "backwards", and then hitting the "now make everything look better, rather than run smoother" button at the very end. So no, not a scam. Just not what most folks are looking for when they go looking for a tool to help them draw maps, since it doesn't let you draw anything.

That's a brutal entry xD. GMs spend hours making their maps and not many would say they suck. But I'll humor you I've spent a fair amount of time creating maps on lined paper, grid paper and rollout maps. They definitely didn't suck and still made for good runs. When I say I'll humor you though, I definitely agree there is always room for improvement. I upgraded from there by venturing into the realm of free software. I've tried a handful and nothing stuck. So I actually went back to pen and paper. Campaign Cartographer 2 is something I did stumble across and it was very appealing at the time. But it does have a bit of a more retro look when compared to newer software these days. Fast forward to today. I'm starting back up after a small hiatus and this time around I decided on looking into software. I've always held off on Campaign Cartographer 3 but decided now is the time to buy. And I've never been more stoked in my life when it comes to map making! - Pen & Paper? At least PCs won't beat you up too bad since you did everything by hand. Actually makes for some extremely enjoyable adventures. HIGHLY underrated in my humble opinion - CC2? Outdated and doesn't hold up well - Free software? My advice is to watch videos before installing and trying software, programs or other websites. I wasted countless hours running a few adventures in software and programs that didn't stick. After getting a good handle on how two or three worked, I realize now as I sit that it was a colossal waste of time. - CC3+? I've purchased it and I'm going to give it a go! I've watched a good amount of videos on it and already feel like I can throw some maps together fairly quickly. As much time as GMs spend preparing, I'm willing to sink some serious time in to learn this software. But I'm going to start small and ease my way into it gradually. However, as a recap, what works for others won't work for everybody. One advantage of trying different methods and deciding not to use them is that it may just make you appreciate the methods you do know how to use. For me, it made me appreciate Pen & Paper more. 100% viable even in today's standards.

It's interesting because, having used campaign cartographer, it's basically the same steps you show. All of it is just putting in the steps to get what you want (in your case brushes and stamps, in CC it's learning the UI)

Damn, I wish I'd seen this video before I bought the CC3+ humble bundle. I opened it and thought to myself, WTF is this. Really disappointed :(

campaign cartographer was on the market long before all the web-based map creators were and it was a good tool for anyone who wanted to design a map of his own. You can actually make good looking maps with it, but it requires a lot of time and practice and it is not very user friendly. In todays standards it is rather old-fashioned. It is not a scam. you could say photoshop is a scam if you don't know what you are doing there too... it simply requires some of your time and effort to learn.

Your map didn't look better than what you can make on Inkarnate though.

Thank you for showing people the wonders of blending options, or layer style as it's called in Krita.

These are nifty techniques, and your map doesn't look terrible, but if I were to open up Photoshop, Krita, etc. there's no way I would have been able to figure this out without watching your video. And yet that's exactly what you did with CC+; you wanted to immediately intuit how to use it with no help from the guide (which you obviously didn't read), or the wealth of youtube tutorials out there (which are pretty hard to miss). No wonder you thought you got scammed. If you don't want to put in the work to learn CC+, that's fine. If you purchased CC+ thinking it was going to behave like Inkarnate and limit your options so as to hold your hand all the way through, I can understand your disappointment. But don't poison the well for others who might be looking to make their maps amazing. Yes, CC+ was a steep learning curve, but it was so worth it. My maps look amazing now, and my players are consistently impressed. You owe Profantasy an apology.

Me, a compulsive world-builder who already hand-draws his maps: Ah, interesting.

Lol, I was just looking at the Humble Bundle for the Campaign Cartographer stuff which got me looking at videos to see if it was worth it and it really didn't seem it was - even at that reduced bundle price. But then I started to look up alternatives and found Wonderdraft, which looks a lot nicer, but while watching videos of people using it I couldn't help but think that I could just do most of what it does in Krita with custom stamp brushes and the like, then I find this video!

Dude. Inkarnate is 5 bucks a month. And it's already got all the brushes and stamps and tools programed and ready. How the fuck can it matter THIS MUCH to anybody that "yOuR iNkArNaTe MaPs LoOk LiKe EvErYoNe ElSe'S"

I would like to see how to make all the tools and such to do these maps. Thanks for your input into this topic.

I think it's unfair to call Campaign Cartographer a "scam." It does what it says it does, it just requires more work. Also, my go-to terrain generator is a Profantasy product, Fractal Terrains, mainly because it provides plenty of options to create realistic continent shapes (although it doesn't really account for things like plate tectonics or glaciers carving up the land) with customizable temperature, precipitation and climate generation, and it can give you multiple map projections for your world maps that can actually take into account the curvature of a globe and the distortion of area and distance a flat map can cause. The closest to it I've seen in full-world map generation is Azgaar's Fantasy Map Generator.

Profantasy Software is hardly a rip off. It's also been around for a long time. Also, when you buy it you own it and don't have to rely on their servers. I have used Profantasy since it first came out. And I go back to it periodically. And yes it's expensive. I looked into Inkarnate, and while it is cheap and certainly has it's advantages, if they decided, after you sent them your 25 buks, to shut down their servers what happens to your map making program? If your internet is down, can you still map? The answer is your screwed and NO. At least WonderDraft let's you use their program offline.

Oh come on this program is awesome..... or it was when I originally bought it, you know back in 1993...... apparently it has not been updated at all. I will say the main thing that I was really amazed at with this program originally is that you can zoom in from world view all the way down to a bug on the street. But yes horrible by today's standards. I can't believe they are still selling it without significant updates.

I haven't tried Krita but I used to love making my maps in GIMP. I may need to pick that back up.

Pro tip for you guys, you can paint an entire inkarnate map in one texture and export textures out of it for you own map.

Fantastic! Yes, please do some videos on making brushes. That would be cool.

I only used the free version of inkarnate once to get the general world shape of my world. I’m an (aspiring comic) artist so I only needed it for that lol. I drew my map more in detail in photoshop.

in my experience the best thing to do is learn how to fliipin draw on paper its not that hard when it comes to drawing maps and they look way cooler then any software because you are not limited to the program and can make any kind of style you like!

Im sorry, the end result still looks worse than maps made with Inkarnates free editor. When you spend a third of your video bashing a product your end result should at least be noticeably better. And if anyone want to spice their maps up a bit the $25 per year subscription to unlock all the features of Inkarnate is not a big deal. I personally only use Inkarnate to make rough sketches that I use as a template layer in Photoshop and then "hand-draw" my map with a Wacom tablet. I get the best of both worlds that way.

I don't think it's fair to call it a scam since your maps COULD look that good... It's just the learning curve feels pretty dense and the UI feels kinda janky... BUT unlike some other map making tools I've seen it at least isn't a subscription model which I like since I don't need to worry about losing access to it... And the cost of Photoshop is just asinine such that it encourages piracy, but I'm not sure where to pirate from so at the moment I just don't have it and it makes me sad... D:

Huh. Here I am looking for a map making tool that's better than gimp or krita, which I have used so far to make my maps. But it turns out I just need to get better acquainted with those programs. How convenient!

Very good video, thank you for showing. Can one do this in photoshop as well? Is it possible for you to make a tuturial for that as well?

Best campaign cartographer 3 tutorial out there

I personally use Corel for it. I know how it works, you can import all sorts of stuff for icons, fillings, features etc, and I can export it in every format I want

The sarcasm in your voice is hilarious 🤣

"I would wager that your maps are made in incarnate." Me who manually draws it up in Ibis Paint X Mobile: ... Yeah... I don't even know what that is But in all seriousness, this just just got randomly recommended to me, I know KZfaq knows I'm interested in worldbuilding but what? I don't actively searching it up and yet it keeps on getting recommended to me... Though I'm not complaining But I might just try out your tricks (or at least the possible ones) to Ibis Paint

Thank you so much for this video. Bless you!

that bob ross joke was very funny

You make me sad. I bought a bundle and sweated it until I asked the community for some help and then used a hex overlay, and thought about how my hand drawn maps looked. Now I gotta figure out cities and dungeons.

The Krita map that was produced here looks very amateurish and nothing of the quality that CC3+ can produce. One can learn how to make a nice looking map with CC3+ in less that 30 minutes by watching just one CC3+ tutorial. The link to that tutorial is: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtKgmd2d2LOvYps.html There are more advanced techniques in CC3+ that one can learn to make even better looking maps but not necessary for nice basic maps. As with anything that we do in life It all depends how much time a person wants to devote their time to to become more advanced. But in this case or any other case for that matter, CC3+ is hard to beat!

Before I even watch this, I Only spent $25 on campaign cartographer because humble bundle about 3-4 months ago XD I'm still gonna watch though.

nice. I wish it was for gimb but I guess I will work it out

this is a hidden gem of map making guides

I make my own map in Ps. I'm a hobby artist and the flexibility this way gives me is exactly what I want.

god i wish this stuff existed when i was 14 so bad

I rather use wonderdraft because it looks better. Its not free but its cheaper than campaign cartographer and easy to use.

Or just use Wonderdraft

Sooo... just get WonderDraft?

Hey! Can you continue to do tutorials in Kritta? Can you do new beginner tutorials on Kritta?

I was able to make a decent looking map in Ibis paint.. on my phone.

Lol. Literally makes a map that looks just like inkarnate but worse. Wonderdraft is my personal favorite.

100%, Tried to make a map on inkarnate and it's terrible, i moved on to PAINT 3D on windows and created a rough idea for one of the regions and realized 'oh shit i'm retarded i can just use krita' i reinstalled krita and now i'm having a blast Creating my own stylized fantasy map

Please, by all means, show us how to make the custom brushes

Hey man, did you do the video about that awesome brush? :)

Thankfully I'm just looking for some nice looking easy to make maps and splashed out on incarnate instead of falling for this. Nice video though!

Love this video. Would love to know what program you're using. You say that you like Krita more than photoshop, so is that the one you're using? Ok, so watching more, you do say Krita. Would love to see more of this.

Chad me using Illustrator and Photoshop instead of Inkarnate

Hi, the eraser mode is turning my background in white.

in 2023 ,just tell ai u need a map,10 sec, done

I feel the demo doesn't show the point you are trying to make. Photoshopping gives a higher degree of customization and freedom while Inkarnate is more focused on ease of use

How do yu do this brush !!!!!!! (good video bro)

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I guess you never heard of wonderdraft lol Is that windows 7?

I hand draw my maps

Affinity serif sells the software they want for less than Photoshop costs.

I have a question about content ownership and Inkarnate. You, devRat, might have to deal with this, because your use of Incarnate in your videos might be considered commercial. I do not understand the limits of Inkarnate's ability to charge something for the use of content I would create, using Inkarnate. Is the max they could charge is $25/year so long as any product I sold had content in it made using Inkarnate? So, if write a book like Harry Potter which has a dozen maps in its 360 pages, would that mean I'd have to pay Inkarnate $25/year so long as my book sold, which could then be the rest of my life? Could Inkarnate change that price, increasing it? Could Inkarnate say it wants a percentage of sales of that book? Not that I have something ready to sell for vast amounts of money, or any money, but my creative hopes of making maps for my fantasy world I've been dreaming, playing in games as a Game Master, and developing over the past 40+ years, ... the idea that maybe Inkarnate could say it wants a percentage take that Inkarnate decides what that percent is of my maps for my world that I make because I make them in Inkarnate causes me to avoid using Inkarnate. However, it would be really nice to use something better than a spline based drawing program to draw my maps with.

I would choose atlas. Not incarnate

I kind of prefer the inkarnate maps...

Y'all have never heard of Wonderdraft and it shows...

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I use MS Paint :D

I got krita. But I rather use Krita + Inkarnate. Cuz Imma real who see the best out of both world.

All I got to say is sheesh

Can confirm photoshop is the best map creation tool. I made a genuinely photorealistic map of my world in 8 hours. How photorealistic? Well, everything I did was using brushes that I made from satalight photos of the earth, using colors picked from those photos. It looks real. It looks like someone took a picture out the window of a spaceship. No other program (aside from other image editors) will do that. And here's what I don't think any other image editor, even GIMP, can do... Slice that map into 256 square pixel tiles, export them in a specific file structure, and let me add them into a digital map with one line of code, so I have my own google maps style sat-view of my setting.

I'm having an issue with the mountain step, as it keeps calling the stamp invalid and defaults to a pixel sized brush instead. Any advice? It also isnt saving properly. (I'm on a samsung tablet if that helps or changes things at all)

expent hours and didn't learn how to use it? wow!

You called CC a scam yet your 8 minute map looked no better than the so called crud you claimed people are already making using the 'scam' you were ridiculing.........that map was atrocious. You might as well just told people to use construction paper and crayons.

if someone use photoshop,just make some brushes,u can do this

finally somone that says the truth. Thanks a lot

Nazywanie CC+ scamem tylko dlatego że nie potrafi się go obsługiwać jest żenujące

Thank you. I spent over a hundred on this trash programme. I was devastated.

That looks like hot garbage. 🤨

I was able to make a decent looking map in Ibis paint.. on my phone.