Don't Miss This If You Want To Condition Your Hands! Incredibly Effective Makiwara Hand Conditioning

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4 жыл бұрын

Makiwara training is often misunderstood. Here's a video that helps clarify things. How much time do you have to condition your hands? Is it a priority? If so, how important is it to you? These questions determine the approach you can take to your own hand conditioning.
My name is Cameron Quinn and I am a student of Sosai Mas Oyama, founder of Kyokushin Karate. As his interpreter over a period of 17 years, Sosai taught me many things and shared many personal moments. I want to share as much of that with you as possible.
This is a basic description of the hand conditioning approach I have used for more than 30 years. It is safe if you approach it right and incredibly effective. Please be careful and increase the intensity over a long period of time.
Often students put off hand conditioning because they don't have an actual traditional makiwara. But if you have a tree close by that has the right balance of a reasonably soft outer and a solid core then you can start today!
All hand conditioning assumes you understand how to make a correct seiken fist, shuto knifehand, haito ridgehand and shotei palm heel and how to use the techniques properly so you don't injure yourself. If you are not sure, seek advice from your instructor. Safety is paramount.
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@WarriorBoy 3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate your commitment to safety and emphasis on how much you have to build this up over time. Your striking against the tree blew me away. Thank you, Sensei!

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. :) yes, too easy to damage the hands without building up properly but if you do get that right there really is no limit.

@bagoobagoo2006 Жыл бұрын

I also appreciate his safety. Over time i keep on watching and listening to what's going on. Understanding stuff gets much better now that i have been active on watching kyokushin and the fighting arts in general. Over the years I go back to early videos and then am able to pick up on what's going on. So it all helpd. hahahah. OSU

@andrewskokan6372 3 жыл бұрын

Great instructional- thanks!

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you too, for eatching and commenting.

@user-fl5lr1nm5v 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent.

@AndreaStoppa72 4 жыл бұрын

Great teachings from a great teacher

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Andrea, my friend, you are always very kind. Thank you. We have mutual love and respect I think. I want to learn from you!

@chrisdunn3968 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear the sounds of the birds singing in the background Cam. I see the local Police attended the location in relation to a crazed man fighting a tree 😂👍✊ Osu!

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chrissy. Senior Sargent Mick J was the videographer. :D And BTW, you said to let you know. bit.ly/CQPatreon.

@alekc6998 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely beautiful video, thank you shih an! Osu!

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you too! Appreciate the message!

@pesocard 4 жыл бұрын

excellent video, Shihan Cameroon, Thank you

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Osu Steven, thanks. :)

@josemelendez2674 4 жыл бұрын

Osu Shihan. Thank you for creating these wonderful instructional videos. This is a great way to train and get our minds & body on something positive.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Osu, thank you for taking the time to watch!

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Osu. Thanks for your comment. I hope you keep up the good training!

@dasadewes1903 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

@havenhenare-heke9255 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Pure gems that you’ve dropped in this video. Just starting my journey in Kyokushin, Osu Shihan

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

Osu Haven, thanks for that. Good luck on the journey! Have you done any other training before?

@havenhenare-heke9255 3 жыл бұрын

Cameron Quinn Kyokushin Karate Osu shihan. Thank you - I’ve done some training in Māori staff fighting/maurakau for a few years. I found both compliment each other very well

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

@@havenhenare-heke9255 That's very interesting. I am so interested in the Māori culture. Amazing.

@bagoobagoo2006 Жыл бұрын

OSU Shihan! Love watching good Instructors. That's another thing I like about Kyokushin. Not greedy. I undertand they practice in their parks over in Japan. I am close to the country side here in London too. I will make time for the woods. Nice and calm place to exercise and the lovely sound of nature, wildlife.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate Жыл бұрын

Yes, there are so many good Kyokushin schools and teachers out there! Especially in the UK!

@bagoobagoo2006 2 жыл бұрын

Osu Shihan! Good video. When I was in Cyprus i used a tree too. It was kinda like a large pineapple come palm tree. Short 8-10 ft and about 3ft dia. Good for mawashi geri

@JM-jd7yp Жыл бұрын

This video is first and foremost about honesty and I thank you for that. Secondly I honestly believe that the natural makiwara was a tree. Thirdly hand conditioning is about adaption to change but safe adaption. Fourthly hand conditioning is about consistency. Lastly it is about understanding the integrated application of techniques or how it all comes together. Great video. Thank you.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate Жыл бұрын

Osu, thanks for the comments.

@boogabellmo 3 жыл бұрын

Osu Shihan! Great video! I always wanted to tell you, I always thought your book was the best book on Kyokushin! Thank you!

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

Osu. Thanks. Just published the second edition updated too. :)

@boogabellmo 3 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate Osu! I got my first copy from Shihan Lowe in Hawaii around 96 or 97 ish.. I will have to pick up a copy of your new version. Where can I order one?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

@@boogabellmo Best is budokarate.com/

@srensandersen3154 4 жыл бұрын

Osu Shihan Right to the core of Budo Karate and an inspiration to the Martial arts world as always 🙏 Osu no seishin Greatings from Denmark⛩

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Osu Sorensen Sensei. Hope you’re well.

@srensandersen3154 4 жыл бұрын

Osu thank you Shihan We try to stay above the line 🙏

@b.muller9806 4 жыл бұрын

Osu, great instructional video. Please the same for the shin :)

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Shall do! 👍🏻😊

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

I'll be getting on to that as soon as possible, but the COVID isolation is making it a bit hard to get it done.

@MartialArtsGamer 3 жыл бұрын

Osu. I’m Shotokan this video is very informative. I never knew Makiwara was used in Kyokushin, I initially thought it was exclusively used by older styles like Goju Ryu, Shotokan etc

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

Mas Oyama was a great advocate of the makiwara, especially early in his training.

@MartialArtsGamer 3 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate Can only imagine what a punch from Sosai would’ve felt like. They called him ‘godhand’ and for good reason.

@FightXchannel 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Great instructional. Do you have any advice for wrist injurys? and rehab?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Depends how bad, what's damaged etc. If it isn't too bad... Strap it with a wrap or one of those neoprene supporters. Keep the gripping going is but avoid impact work. The less movement the better until it gets a chance to heal.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Also, give it time to rest. No makiwara until it feels stronger, then only start much lighter than before. Test is always good or it never heals properly.

@wendellbenedict4793 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video. Great advice, especially about haito can tweek the shoulder and elbow joints and keeping fingers separated with the shuto. I have learned both of these over the years with experience. Have sometimes wondered why we teach the shuto with clenched fingers. I guess that if we didn't though most people would have their fingers too wide. Never have trained in Mas Oyama's style but I have often used his books as a guide to workout. Also great advice about going slow and build up.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

Osu, thanks for leaving a comment. Yes, the tweaks and damage from poor form is a real issue that isn't addressed often enough. Then by the time we're 60 it's too late!

@kempowarrior1954 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Cameron, I was recently practising vertical punches on my apple tree. My dear wife voiced her concern that I might end up killing the tree as a result of the blows, a compliment (?) :)

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

LOL> Well, trees are a lot more resilient than we give them credit for. But if you do kill it, I think that would be something special. Don't kill it though! :D

@yenderbejarano2367 3 жыл бұрын

Oss.

@brianmahon4270 3 жыл бұрын

Hi proper instructions good video,can you do this daily and for how long??

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

Whether you do it daily depends on age, as well as hand health. It's actually a good goal to aim for, but really take your time building up the volume. If you start steadily and are patient so you give the hand time to strengthen and thicken through the bones, then eventually it is no problem to do it daily. Just rest if you feel you need to. It is also good to keep volume a little lower once you're doing it daily. So instead of building to 100 of each every day, I'd stop at 50 of each every day for a few months. The whole thing is giving the hand time to respond to the training. That takes months and years.

@brianmahon4270 3 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate thankyou for reply ive been a block layer most of my life and I'm 43 years of age and I am retired but I want to keep the strength in my arms and hands but mostly my hands I've been using a sand bag for a few months about 10 minutes a day but that's after I do the farmers walk which covers whole body strength so I'm pretty accustomed to intense workout.I feel like I can move onto something more solid than a sand bag like a tyre or a solid wall starting of low volume of course what would you suggest?

@Celtic1888ok 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Can you recommend a decent makiwara that I can get online? I’ve never used one but want to start conditioning my hands. Thanks.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

If you want to use an actual okinawan-style makiwara wrap I'm not too sure. Perhaps online martial arts suppliers? But if you want to use what I use here you can eaasily make them clean and dry sand inside two heaviest-duty plastic bags you can find, and that inside a couple of hessian bags. You can also make a frame support for it with scaffolding.

@Celtic1888ok 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate.

@rashidmartialarts9513 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent instruction. Is it necessary to keep my arms straight when I am punching ? Reason being when I do pad works , I tend to turn my first and punch with an angle, jabs and crosses.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think the arm should straighten fully. Just start slowly and build up to hit as hard as you can WHILST PROTECTING your joints and power chain, for core through shoulder, lat, elbow, wrist, fist.

@rashidmartialarts9513 3 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate thanks for the reply !

@ronnysudiono315 Жыл бұрын

Osu shihan, what is the Latin name of the tree in Australia that is most suitable because it is hard in the core and soft on the surface?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate Жыл бұрын

I believe it is the Melaleuca quinquenervia. Commonly called the paper bark tree. Soft on the outside, hard on the inside. Great for hand conditioning. Although the tree I am using in this video is a different species. I think that one is a pine of some sort.

@joshuapacia6316 Жыл бұрын

What martial arts styles aside from Kyokushin do you have explored, Shihan?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate Жыл бұрын

Over the years I exposed myself to pretty well everything I could find. Mas Oyama said it was not right to identify as a martial artist unless one was familiar with the principles of all the arts. So I took that to heart. I haven't done as much judo as I would have liked.

@followerOfJesus723 2 ай бұрын

I have a question. I you just wanted to condition your hand for boxing and MMA, would you need all of those different types of strikes?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 ай бұрын

That's a good question because it kind of addresses the core of the point of makiwara training. It is less about hardening the knuckles and more about making the hand, arm joints and shoulders stronger and denser to support increasingly heavier punching. So it is, I think, really important to do all the techniques so that the hand and arm are conditioned all angles, top, bottom, outside, inside. Then work on the correct fist form. Then good fist striking will be naturally better. But if you just work the fist the shoulder, arm and hand can never be fully strengthened for the stronger punches.

@FLMKane 2 жыл бұрын

Osu shihan, I wouldn't say it's friction that heats up the bag or makiwara. It's strain energy that degrades into internal molecular energy. That's significant because strain energy is also the source of damage in materials. Frictional damage would be akin to road rash. Strain or stress damage would cause plastic (permanent deformation) plus a certain percentage that converts to heat.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

Not being a scientist, the first thing that comes to mind when heat is felt is friction. I have to admit, the thought that it was possibly strain energy degrading into internal molecular energy didn't actually cross my mind! :D SO thank you for the correction! :) Osu to that.

@FLMKane 2 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate Osu Shihan, I meant that as a long winded compliment. If the makiwara is heating up, that means you're putting in some serious and damaging amount of energy. I must admit that I have a masters in engineering so thats why I quickly figured out why there was heat.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

@@FLMKane No worries. I definitely took no offense and appreciated your comment very much. I love it when engineers put me in my place. My degree was in Japanese translation so all I know about engineering is how to say it in Japanese. :D

@joshuabrant3487 3 жыл бұрын

I have been curious/skeptical about this kind of training for a while. In the early ufc they had Gerard Gordeau from a kyokushin background, but he broke his hand on the first round. As someone who has done this for a long time, what is your opinion on the realistic upper limitations of this kind of training?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 3 жыл бұрын

Gerard had an unlucky break and hit a bad angle with a loose hand. That'll do it. AT the end of the day having a strongly conditioned hand void of injury is always going to be better than an unconditioned hand I think. The degree one wants to take the conditioning is personal. This kind of thing is less about the knuckles and more about the weak links: the bones in the hand, the wrist, elbow, shoulder. I know there are many who have taken it well beyond what I have done and that is not for me. But it DOES suit them and some that I know well who have been doing this training in excess of 50 years have no ongoing injury at all and in fact have very healthy hands for their age. What alternative would you be thinking about?

@joshuabrant3487 3 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate I dono about an alternative. I just know lots of people have an attitude of if they get in a real fight without wraps they will probably break their hand, but the probability of that happening is low anyways. Definitely your hands look pretty normal as do most I think who occasionally do some makiwara. Its the Chinese iron palm guys who have got really mangled looking hands. Some of the traditional Okinawan karate is freaky too punching solid rocks.

@Rob_Green 3 жыл бұрын

Osu Shihan

@jlast313 4 жыл бұрын

Can I use a fabric heavy bag in the same manner? I do not own or have room or a Maki, but I do have a 80lb heavy bag. In theory it should be similar correct?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Fabric seems to heat up faster. Depends on the fabric too. What about the right kind of tree?

@jlast313 4 жыл бұрын

I have a bunch of very large maple trees around my house, and some very small aspen trees, would I be looking for a birch maybe?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

J Last try them out. If the bark is too hard the chances of injuring your hand increase. The softer the bark the better bc the core will still be solid.

@jlast313 4 жыл бұрын

Yea, the maple trees are easily 50 or so years old, the bark is like massive fissures of super hard lava 😂😂 it'll probably cut my hand rather than harden anything.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

@@jlast313 Yep, avoid injury at all costs. A year's worth of hard training can be lost in a moment of poor concentration. The softer the bark the better. You'll get down to the harder core soon enough.

@sanchin55 Жыл бұрын

OSU

@alitomaev3162 2 жыл бұрын

Cameron san, do you still interpret?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, in the group that I work with, although Covid means events in Japan requiring an interpreter have been postponed. :)

@alitomaev3162 2 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate seen you interpreting for Sosai Oyama must've been a great experience, unfortunately, after he passed away all of his students went their way establishing their own dojos what a shame, hope one day we'll see them come together again and bring this beautiful style of karate up on another level, I'm truly glad there are people like you still practising it, OSU !!!

@joopsnoop 4 жыл бұрын

Lol, the local police were called bc someone reported a maniac chopping down a tree illegally.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

The trees put out a restraining order...

@shogun1434 4 жыл бұрын

What style do you do

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 4 жыл бұрын

Kyokushin Karate. Mas Oyama's style. You?

@ZAKU73 3 жыл бұрын

You’re not gonna harden your knuckles or increase your punching power if you don’t hit with at least 50% power. No pain no gain

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. That's why with my punching I try to get as close to full power as possible. For some though, it is more important to build up gradually, which means starting way below 50%. It's not so much about hardening the knuckles as strengthening the hand.

@ZAKU73 2 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate yes the key is slow but sure and most importantly consistent and discipline. Keep training hard. Osu!

@tilliethompson6681 2 жыл бұрын

Why don't you just use an axe? I highly doubt your opponent will just stand there and take the hits. Also, you were only hitting the flat and softer part of the tree. If you were hitting the bark of the tree, you hand would be bleeding. This is trickery.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

What's your point? That you think this is fake? Or that you think I am foolish enough to try and chop a tree down with my hand? Your comment doesn't rally make sense. Unless you have never worked to condition your hands, in which case I get it now. LOL. Of COURSE I was hitting the flatter, softer part of the tree. The objective is to condition the hands, not to injure. You should find a solid tree to work on and see for yourself that whilst there is a slightly softer outer layer the inner core of the tree is still very solid, so the resistance level is very suitable to hand conditioning. Very similar to a makiwara.

@tilliethompson6681 2 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate Trees don't hit back. You need to stop taking lessons from Mc Dojos.

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

@@tilliethompson6681 SO how do you recommend I condition my hands? What advice can you give, other than the wisdom of trees not hitting back?

@tilliethompson6681 2 жыл бұрын

@@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate I suspect you are another Mc Dojo master. I doubt you can defend yourself in real life situation. If someone is trying to attack you, what are you going to do? Are you going to show him your deformed hands and explain how dangerous your hands are?

@CameronQuinnKyokushinKarate 2 жыл бұрын

@@tilliethompson6681 What is a McDojo master? I've never heard of that? You could be right!