Don't Starve VS Don't Starve Together

Don't Starve VS Don't Starve Together - A Buyer's Guide

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Thinking about purchasing a Don't Starve game but aren't sure which one to get? Confused by the different bundles and titles sold on the various platform stores? Well this video is for you! In this Buyer's Guide to the Don't Starve Franchise, I review all the different purchase options, and give several recommendations based on common factors people are likely to consider when buying the game. And the good news is that they're all pretty fantastic, so whatever you choose, you're bound to have a great time!
CONTENTS:
00:00 Introduction
01:26 Understanding the Different Versions
02:19 Vanilla Don't Starve - the Original Game
03:25 Reign of Giants - the First DLC Expansion
04:20 Shipwrecked - the Second DLC Expansion
05:49 Hamlet - the Third DLC Expansion
06:56 Review of Single-Player Don't Starve
08:12 Console Versions and Bundles
09:18 Pocket Editions for iOS and Android
10:08 Don't Starve - Newhome
10:38 Don't Starve Together
12:06 DST Character - Same, but Different
13:14 Review of Don't Starve Together
13:43 Recommendations Intro
14:26 Biggest Bang for your Buck
15:08 Best Bang for Lowest Cost
15:35 Steam (Computer) vs Console
16:13 Playing with Other People
16:41 Best Solo Experience - Personal Recommendation
18:33 Counter Points for DST
19:06 Final Thoughts and Outro
As for which game is actually "better", I personally think that's a silly question to ask, and is kind of like asking what's the best flavor of ice cream. Yes, sometimes a new flavor of ice cream with lots of ingredients and toppings is fun to enjoy, but sometimes you just want a tried and true, rich and creamy vanilla, especially when you can enjoy it with fresh strawberries, or chocolate syrup, or caramel, or a mix of all three!
Be sure to check out the rest of my Don't Starve guides and content, and watch for livestreams as (usually) posted each week on my community page:
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Game footage for this video is from Don't Starve and it's DLC expansions, Reign of Giants, Shipwrecked, and Hamlet, and Don't Starve Together, the delightful action-adventure sandbox survival games by indie developer Klei Entertainment. Interested in trying them out? Visit these links to learn more and/or purchase!
www.klei.com/games
store.steampowered.com/app/21...
store.steampowered.com/app/32...
Music is from the Don't Starve Soundtrack, and was arranged and composed by Vince de Vera, Jason Garner, and/or Emmett Hall. Tracks featured in this video are "Reign of Giants Trailer", "Main", "D.R. Style", and the Hamlet track when working during Humid season, the fight music for the Eye of Terror from DST, as well as my own version of "Spring Cleaning" which I titled "Abigail's Waltz". Game footage, graphical assets, soundtrack, and sound effects used consistent with Klei Entertainment's "Player Creation Guidelines" as stated on their website:
support.klei.com/hc/en-us/art...
Nothing in this video is sponsored by Klei Entertainment, and the commentary and information in this video do not represent the opinions or positions of any other entity whatsoever. Though if I could somehow get a kickback from Klei for all purchased made after watching this video, I would gladly accept!

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@Crackgearson Жыл бұрын

To stop the lagginess especially in Offline Mode in DST, you currently have the option to turn off Lag Prediction, which was the whole reason it existed.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I actually forgot to mention that in the video, but yes, all DST players should turn off the predictive lag setting. However, I don't think it makes any difference if you are in offline mode. There still is that slight input delay when I have tried it.

@poligrant5152 Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak i prefer to have lag compensation set to predictive, sure you won't double hit shadows or kite that well but at least it's more responsive, when i turn it off theres very big delay and i cant gtet used to it, even after 700 hours.

@eucliwoodvoidensmith488 Жыл бұрын

Oh. I see. input delay is not just mine. I thought my laptop is just garbage

@1God1Fury Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak lag,input delay will always will be in DST as long as game hosted on servers (including your own solo world)

@trots4940 Жыл бұрын

@@poligrant5152 What? I double hit shadow many times with lag compensation set to predictive

@cyberwolfx Жыл бұрын

Great video but you forgot to add that Don't Starve Together (at least on steam) comes with an extra copy as a gift. That adds a lot of extra value to DST specially when it's on sale.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was going to slip that in there, but was having trouble finding any documented evidence that it's still active, and then forgot to double check. Oh well!!

@XTripleJaxX Жыл бұрын

you can just buy the solo copy for 1/2 the price if u dont want the 2 pack

@Anna_Evan Жыл бұрын

Ya my friends and I have been using the extra copy to slowly get everyone in the friend group to play. 2 people get the same on sale and that's 4 copies.

@lazycrow2853 Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak it's still active, as I just bought the bundle which gave me the gift copy

@JeffGranja27 11 ай бұрын

I really wish this was on Switch, but Nintendo gon' be Nintendo

@Gowly_ Жыл бұрын

If you’re lagging in dst while playing solo, consider using the “dont starve alone” server mod found in the workshop. Completely removes lag as long as it’s a singleplayer world.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Interesting! I've never heard of that, but might need to try it out!

@kehtonhultquist5075 10 ай бұрын

Is it on console? And is it free?

@user-ul7ps3eb2l 10 ай бұрын

@@kehtonhultquist5075 Sorry but you cant get mods on console, only on the pc steam version.

@MamaBear_2629 23 күн бұрын

⁠@@kehtonhultquist5075it’s on console, not for free. You can get mods if you have a steam deck which is basically a handheld pc not really a “console”. And on steam deck you CAN get mods.

@eevee93 Жыл бұрын

One of my favourite experience with this series is that even after a LOT of hours in DST and beating all bosses in that game with a friend Once I got to Shipwrecked and Hamlet, I was back to being a total noob, feeling extremely lost and confused, having to learn the way of the game all over again

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's why I intentionally never learned anything about Hamlet until I did a big live-stream event where I played it completely blind. Was tons of fun!!

@confusedzebra3161 Жыл бұрын

I’ve played this game off and on for a long time and I’ve yet to beat a single boss I just bought dst and accidentally unleashed an eyeball monster and someone in the game with me just said “run”.

@freya9107 Жыл бұрын

I was able to beat every boss in shipwrecked and ROG, but when it comes to hamlet I feel very much like a noob. Can't even get past the first few seasons. Deffinitly make it fill like A whole new game, and definitly worth getting

@orangeball8872 Жыл бұрын

Still, Hamlet makes more sense to play blind due to the whole exploring treasures/dungeons/Islands shebang

@GlenPeterson Жыл бұрын

I went from vanilla DS to DST and the hardest part was learning how different they were, even though they looked superficially the same.

@croteaumce Жыл бұрын

I didn’t mean to spend twenty minutes watching your video, but it was edited for maximum helpfulness, and I really appreciated it.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Mission accomplished! 😁

@58209 Жыл бұрын

thank you for the well organized and detailed overview. i've collected all the games/dlcs over the years, but have always been confused over which version i ought to be playing, especially since i prefer to play alone, and for the longest time i thought i was impossible to play DST solo.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Well, if you haven't dived into DST yet, maybe now is the time!

@everettgaspar3482 Жыл бұрын

This is such a comprehensive guide and I think it will help a lot of people!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

That was the goal!!

@elementochannel6994 22 күн бұрын

was thinking of what version to buy, but your video made it a easy decision. As there is an steam summer sale going on I can get the Mega bundle under $10. So, I bought it. Thanks for the great video

@salendrak 18 күн бұрын

That's the best deal for sure!!

@EDreyer Жыл бұрын

Exceptional quality content and video for such a small channel. Well done mate! I have played both games and had this question many years ago, but without this video I just bought both, lol!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Honestly, buying both really is the best way to go!

@verestoyjanos5013 Жыл бұрын

Bro wake up salendrak uploaded

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

😆

@verestoyjanos5013 Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak just finished watching the video. Great summary, however you forgot to mention the free copy of dst when you buy it. This gives it a ton of value if like you want to play with your best friend, family or ever fiancé.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

@@verestoyjanos5013 I was going to put that in there, but was having trouble finding any reference to it on steam, and was worried they removed it or might remove it in the future.

@dajekotlyar4408 Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak, it's still a thing

@xray8012 Жыл бұрын

Minor footnote: the Switch Version is the least updated version of DST, on launch on Switch it only had every update until the Webber Character Refresh (which was the first version of DST Switch), then came everything up to the WX refresh like Klei said, but Wolfgang's Mighty Gym is bugged, and finally we got the "A Little Drama" update, while the Maxwell Rework is on every other version

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

My guess is that pretty soon it will be fully up to date, and will hopefully keep pace with the Steam versions in the future. That said, it definitely does have some performance issues and single-player bugs, so probably not the best choice if you have any other options.

@YourNormalProgram Жыл бұрын

The update is on switch now

@CatLover-lk9gz 8 ай бұрын

Update for switch. To my knowledge its fully up to date. Been loving playing reworked woodie. It still has active server, although none of the servers I find seem to be running anywhere nearby, so you get pretty hard lag if you aren't hosting. IDK if I'm an idiot. But I swear it never got chat. Why? Why can't people on switch use the chat, keep in mind. Online multiplayer games do have a working chat on Switch. Or at least a few do.

@kylepro4075 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos! Especially the reign of giants guide, I saw many guide but its always on Dst, made me a little bit confused of their difference, made me happy that I found a guide about Rog

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yeah, most people focus on DST since it is in active development. I personally always felt like single-player never got the high-quality guides it deserves, hence my reason for making them!!

@DS3Enjoyer 4 ай бұрын

@@salendrak You're a legend for that, btw. You showed me so many little neat tricks I never thought of. I love rewatching these when the mood strikes.

@yanikkummerow7352 Жыл бұрын

A good thing about DST is, if u buy it on steam, u always get a extra copy of the game so u can gift to a friend. That makes DST kind of 7,50EUR/$ per Person if u plan on playing with friends anyways. Very educational video :D

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yup - definitely a great deal!!

@lalatiana7212 Жыл бұрын

I don't find it 😢

@chauncey5962 10 ай бұрын

Then the micro transactions come in

@acomment8333 8 ай бұрын

@@chauncey5962 you don't need skins to play dst

@chauncey5962 7 ай бұрын

@@acomment8333you mean main characters?

@Spenstatzboi Жыл бұрын

I always wanted one of the games because I like terraria but I never knew which one to buy, great video!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

If you can get them on sale, buy them all!!

@readermcrose5864 Жыл бұрын

I've only ever played pocket edition and wanted to experience the best this game has to offer, but all the options had me overwhelmed. Thanks for making this video simplifying everything, it helped a lot!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Good news is that whether you go from pocket to single player OR to DST, you'll have a much better and more full experience!

@gaminninja5536 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, with how good the development team has been with this game and the game being as good as it is and the passion, the team puts into the work they do I would just fall on say by both I’d say they well earned their dollars which is something I would not say about most video game industries in this day and age

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more!

@AVspectre Жыл бұрын

I really love this game and never seem to get sick of it (coming back to it again and again). I am very casual and not a strong player but enjoy it anyways. I play on the Switch in handheld mostly while watching tv in the evening. I envy the hot keys and shortcuts available for keyboard users, but I definitely play more with it being on the Switch. I have never actually tried the ROG mode - just alternate between DS and SW. And I had no clue about what DST was all about… great video! Thanks!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't play Don't Starve exclusively, as I like to have variety in my gaming free time. But I do keep coming back to it periodically, and always have a great time! You should definitely try out Reign of Giants though - it really fleshes out the original game in a lot of great ways!

@magtheidio Жыл бұрын

Nice to watch, although I already have both ^^ Can't wait for your next Don't starve content, if you intend to do more!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yup! Next up on the Don't Starve is a guide to Adventure Mode. Not sure when I'll get around to it, but after that I plan to move on the Shipwrecked.

@mikejox Жыл бұрын

amazing detailed video I've been a fan of don't starve since the beta and i absolutely love all of it's different versions they are all fun and enjoyable

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I totally agree!!

@sunshepherdnow Жыл бұрын

I don't really play any game beside a casual mobile game, but when I saw volx(?) dont starve gameplay, I decide to give it a try in 2015, and that was when I fell in love with the game. they have everything I wanted in a game: survival, sandbox, and really unique! also, I really like the game design, they're cute but has a horror touch on them, and that is amazing! I must say I'm not really good at boss fighting and spend most of my time to build a mega base, but that is why I love dont starve, you can just leave alone the bosses and fighting them later whenever you're ready. not to mention the dst content is top tier with their story line, the short animated videos, everything is *chefs kiss.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yeah - I love the fact that overall the graphics and style of the game is pretty simple, yet SOOOOO perfect for the game. And goes to show that solid game mechanics are way more important for making a good game compared to flashy graphics!

@yak5438 10 ай бұрын

I am a proud PE player. When I boot this bad boy up with my bluetooth controller and headset, I get one of the best experiences I could ask for. You (and maybe a few others) really under-appreciate the power of mobility. I think we all agree that DS is an amazing game and I as a highschool senior (10th grade-ish here in germany) I wouldn't know what to do in both of my daily 25 min. Breaks without DS. Its even better for long travels, as my family and I often drive to other countries ... being trapped in a car for 5+ hours is SO MUCH less miserable with DS. I love the PE version. I call it "the best 4.50€ I ever spent."

@salendrak 10 ай бұрын

Oh for sure! Compared to other mobile games it really is quite the bargain, and able to provide TONS of hours of entertainment. It really only pales in comparison to the other versions of Don't Starve, but compared to other options for good mobile games, it's great!

@GBS4893 Жыл бұрын

Controller was a great experience overall coming back to the game many years later, but there are minor issues with specific characters. Some can be fixed thanks to small mods though. For example Wendy can attack her ghostly sister and despawn her because there is no "force attack command" that prevents you from doing so (losing 50 sanity and a few days in the process) but a simple underrated workshop mod prevents it. (modding in the workshop is easy, just a few clicks really) On the other hand, Willow's lighter's command to light things on fire is the same as the one to start cooking things on the crockpot.It is easy to destroy it and lose ressources, food and time this way. I haven't found a solution to this one and i always end up doing it again at some point. (a simple torch also does this but you don't just walk around with one since it consumes itself).

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Interesting! I'm a straight-up keyboard and mouse gamer, so I had no idea controllers had those issues!

@LeppisiKeppis Жыл бұрын

Love the tiny snippets from the old dedi server. Warms my heart seeing us singing and feasting. 😌

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yup! I also tried to throw in some memorable moments from various of my streams and other videos. Was kind of fun to stroll back through memory lane!

@JupiJupes 11 ай бұрын

Awesome vid. So thorough, well spoken and analytical. Thank you, honestly.

@salendrak 11 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

@datoneboog Жыл бұрын

Another big thing to note when chosing, if you buy DST, it comes with a second game copy that you can gift to a friend so you technically get 2 copies of DST for $15 (w/o a sale)

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Making it even a better deal, for sure!!

@cammybeary4760 Жыл бұрын

I've been playing on the Switch since I knew about the game,and I always wish to play with mods..but to me,its really fine,just playing with what the game already have,it's just added benefits,I think..I cant muster the strength to buy Hamlet and/or DST,but this video really got me thinking tho.. Thanks so so much for another solid and informative video,Sal..its like, you're reading our minds.. ❤️❤️

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I would definitely give Hamlet a go if you're already playing the other single player DLCs. You'll feel like a noob all over again!

@ocean7525 Жыл бұрын

For anyone who is new when watching this video, just to let you know, don’t starve is SO WORTH IT. If your new, I HIGHLY recommend the vanilla and then RoG (Reign of Giants) for the first. It will be difficult but if your struggling, watch sale drakes guides as they are really helpful and gives good advice and info. This game will take hours out of your day (I have a day 340 world and if you do the math, that’s 45.33 hours and that world aside, I probably spent over 100 hours on Dont starve, IT IS SO WORTH IT

@ocean7525 Жыл бұрын

Btw that world was on a pocket edition and in the video salendrak said that it’s buggy. AMEN. I lost my 340 worlds BC of a beefalo……don’t ask questions……

@ocean7525 Жыл бұрын

It crashed and corrupted my save file

@everettgaspar3482 Жыл бұрын

I agree. I struggled with DST but went back and started playing on vanilla and and it’s much more of a beginner experience. I’m so excited to get good enough to play the other versions

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

And what's really great is that these are the sorts of games that will definitely stand the test of time and be fun for years and years into the future!!

@victoriaszewczyk3141 Жыл бұрын

I just bought don’t starve and I played it for 200hours

@divinezoomer7305 Жыл бұрын

What a well put together buyers guide. gonna sub and like.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

@drunkcpa1639 Жыл бұрын

This guide is fantastic, well laid out. As someone who has all versions on steam, Xbox, and a few of them on switch and PS4, I want to add 2 things - If you are console ONLY, console versions of the single player games have some glitches that were patched on PC years ago, but the console ports weren’t fixed for (there’s a seasonal glitch that happens with caves). It’s a huge pain late game but you can still get 100s of hours without having the problems. But, for console, DST doesn’t have those glitches, so I’d suggest DST if you’re going console only. The lag in DST he mentions IS a thing but you wouldn’t even realize it’s there most of the time unless you played solo for a while and switched. It’s more like input delay, just the tiniest bit always there, but he is right, the solo games are just a smoother experience. But the seasonal events in dst are great and the developers constant updates are great too. Fantastic video recap

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Excellent points - and thank you for adding the perspective regarding consoles! I've honestly never played any of the console versions, so it's great to see the view of someone who prefers them.

@felixcharbonneau9282 Жыл бұрын

From my experience DST on the nintendo switch is way more laggy and unstable than solo. However, as you said they are no annoying game breaking bugs in DST(the season glitch is such a pain).

@drunkcpa1639 Жыл бұрын

@@felixcharbonneau9282 I’m really surprised they managed a switch port at all with the hardware limitations, I don’t have it on switch but, with good internet it runs quite well on the PS4 and Xbox But I agree on that one specifically, DS on switch would be a better experience

@felixcharbonneau9282 Жыл бұрын

@@drunkcpa1639 solo dont starve on the switch runs just fine. Didn't notice that much lag in like 500h of playing it

@drunkcpa1639 Жыл бұрын

@@felixcharbonneau9282 yea I have solo on switch and it was great until you realize volcano dry season can become infinite since it reset every time I appeased the volcano. After 45 days of eruptions every 3 days I gave up. Great on steam deck now, but that’s just a mobile pc really.

@dark1021 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! I highly recommend getting both games if you’re new. Don’t starve is an amazing single player game! And if you like playing with friends(or not) Don’t starve together is also great and has unique content. There is one correction I’d like to add though: Don’t Starve(Singe player) is play anywhere if you buy it from Xbox/Microsoft. Meaning you can play on PC(with mods) or on your Xbox console(no mods). Not sure about Sony though.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Interesting!! I had no idea about that with XBox!

@Nadav_Vardiel Жыл бұрын

Amazing video, thx, finally someone answered everything I'll be getting DS+3dlc

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

An excellent choice!!

@oscartome16 Жыл бұрын

@Salendrak a while ago you had mentioned to me to give the game a try since I had seen your guides so many times even do at that time I never even bought it. But your structure and explanations were so interesting that I kept revisiting them kinda like a podcast. Well long story short I finally got around it and started playing the game it's been 2 days but it's been very fun. Can't tell you how excited I was after I beat my first tree guard. But your tips and guides allowed me on my first attempt till day 14 till lag and hounds got me. But alass sorry for the long message but Ima revisit all your videos again to find tune my gameplay and to get ready for winter. Thank you have a great day.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

There is no greater compliment to a KZfaqr than letting them know that their videos convinced you to try a game out!!

@Netugi Жыл бұрын

I have 400 hours in Don't Starve, loved the adventure mode especially, and the Shipwrecked DLC really clicked with me. Sure the endgame isn't quite as extensive as Reign of Giants or especially DST, but something about navigating the seas with relative ease (at least compared to DST) really did it for me and I sunk so much time into it. I still might get back into it and do playthroughs with more challenging characters. If all you know is DST then I can't vouch for the single player experience enough, especially Shipwrecked and Hamlet if you want that completely new experience.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Have you done a tri-linked world with RoG, SW, and Hamlet all together? Makes for a TON of end-game opportunities!!

@xeir_on 11 ай бұрын

I played dst as my first one, and after 2k+ hrs in ds overall, I can comfortably say that I couldnt pick a better one, dst is still my favorite ds, simply because its definitely the one with most content, and its kind of a mix of all ds dlcs, so when I started playing them, I quickly got hang of them, cus I already knew the base mechanics of them from dst (altought they still were pretty different)

@salendrak 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, even if you were to decide that one or the other is "better", they're all still fantastic games!

@EsteffersonTorres Жыл бұрын

As you said on the video, there are items and resources that don't exist on DST. For example, on Shipwrecked there's Tar and Bioluminescence. Tar is the best fuel in the game, because it has the burning power of Boards, stacks up to 40 and you can collect in big numbers if you don't fear the Quacken. And Bioluminescence can fuel Lanterns and similar items the amount as Fireflies, but it's even more abundant, while also being cheaper to collect because while Fireflies require Ripe and Silk, Bioluminescence requires Rope and Bamboo, and Bamboo is easier to obtain than Silk. There's also the Cutlass Supreme on SW, which deals the same damage as a Dark Sword but does not drain Sanity. There's also Obsidian, which can be used to craft more efficient tools plus weapons and armor that can be taken to RoG to better fight the Dragonfly.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

And that's not even getting started with the options that come with Hamlet!

@AleQuag Жыл бұрын

Island adventures mode and you're good to go

@tequilasouls 14 күн бұрын

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

@salendrak 14 күн бұрын

Glad I could help!

@daviddavidsson6243 Жыл бұрын

Dude I wish the Iron Hulk was in Dst, it is such a cool boss with so many amazing attacks

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yeah, those Hamlet fights are a lot of fun!!

@1God1Fury Жыл бұрын

and I wish DST "boats" were in DS. They would work very nicely for ocean base in Shipwrecked, but sailing is with out a doubt a lot more faster and pleasant on Shipwrecked ships

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

@@1God1Fury Not to mention you have plenty of ocean-placed structures in Shipwrecked that aren't in DST! Overall though, I rather enjoy the differences that are in each version 😉

@sock1 Жыл бұрын

I didn't even know this game existed back then, one of my friends gifted me dont starve together, we played it with like 5 people and it was a lot of fun! 2 of them quit after about a day because they lost interest in the game, but us 3 reached day 100 for the first time after months of constant dying and creating new worlds. Sadly, it was a few years ago we all quit so they wouldn't even remember this game but, i gained back a lot of interest for this game the past months and discovered i've done almost nothing in the past playthroughs. So recently, i have slayed almost every boss, played almost every character and actually learnt how to play them instead of mindlessly running around, did more boss speedruns etc. Now i take it slow, have about 600 days in 1 world and 800+ hours overall... So yeah... I'd definitely say Don't Starve Together is a clean choice, also not only does steam mods have insane QoL changes, theres also the "Uncomprimising Mode" mod which, literally offers much more quality, challenging content than a dlc. Theres also a lot of custom characters, weapons, enemies, bosses and so on. Another reason i would easily recommend DST is, the characters. They're so different from what they're in other games, so uniquely reworked and have much more replayability value. (!!One Last Thing!! i don't know if its illegal or something lmao but theres literally the shipwrecked version of dont starve in steam mods... so yeah...)

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

The Don't Starve games are definitely the type of game that seems simple on the surface, but once you get into them, they have a TON of depth that a lot of new players have no idea exists! And yes - mods are total gamechangers!!

@_VEX963_ 5 ай бұрын

Well, i wanna say a very big Thanks❤ Very good explaining and it helped me alot now I'm going to get the mega pack

@salendrak 5 ай бұрын

Sounds like an excellent choice to me!

@7Zealot 22 күн бұрын

Very helpful, thanks for the breakdown!

@salendrak 18 күн бұрын

Sure thing!!

@nautilus1642 Жыл бұрын

Both, both is good. Thanks for uploading all of your rog guides.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I totally agree!

@therealtime34 Жыл бұрын

This man helped me on terraria pre hardmode and I defeated moon lord recently, and now he's gonna help me on dont starve

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Awesome!!

@rily2885 Жыл бұрын

fantastic explanation, this video should be in every platform where don't starve is available. For any newbie still afraid of getting into the franchise think first if you want something similar to a sandbox or a roguelike, being dst the sandbox and ds vanilla the the roguelike, while both are technically the same game they can offer very different experiences. both still worth every penny to this day

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Ooooh that's an interesting way of looking at it. I like it!

@everettgaspar3482 Жыл бұрын

I got DST last year because my interest was peaked by the Terraria crossover update. Obviously me and my friends were terrible at it to start and ended up dropping it after a few games. I’m not usually one to give up on a cool game eventually so I came back and was really fascinated by how complex and deep everything in the game was and was determined to get better at it. Eventually I heard about don’t starve single player and retroactively bought the ultra pack (at a discounted price because I already had DST). I heard that the dlcs have a pretty linear difficulty progression with vanilla DS/pre ROG being the easiest so I’ve started there. I really love all the differences between versions like how farming is different and more complex in DST and how all the characters are preserved in their original states in classic DS. All these small differences add even more replay-ability imo which is great! After way more hours than I’m willing to admit I’m finally getting a little bit better at surviving and the DS series is quickly becoming one of my favourite games series even though I know I’ve only seen probably less than 5% of what is has to offer, which makes me so excited to keep going!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yeah, between DS and its DLCs and DST there is no shortage of options for playing the game. And the replayability value is insane!!

@RequiemRhythmXIII Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparison, I was considering getting into Don’t Starve, I’ve always liked the art style but survival games have never been my jam except for recently Subnautica has made survival games grow on me and I was debating which of these I’d rather try first, I don’t know anyone that plays DST so since I expect to play solo I wondered if id rather but the single player

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I still think getting a bundle pack is the best way to go. Then you have options!!

@Simi_Tutu Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!❤ This was so well explained 👏

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

You're most very welcome!!

@K-C-D-A Жыл бұрын

11"37 I like the modification of my go-to Crockpot setup. I've always gone for the 1 Carpeted Flooring Turf + 4 Crockpots (one in each corner) + Icebox in the middle set up. It's quick and easy to set up. I don't often see it with double Iceboxes, let alone diagonally like that, but I like it. Oh right, uh. Aside from that. Good video. A nice surprise.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Thanks!! I like to have variety for my in-game diet, so a single ice box is never enough for all the ingredients I like to stockpile. ps - think this will help decrease the amount of repeat questions on the reddit? My guess is probably not, but can't say I didn't try! 😆

@K-C-D-A Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak I personally would've gone into more detail, emphasizing how many years DS and DST have been doing their own thing... The timeline graphic was nice and helped, but having that piece of info verbally said front and center would really help. (Listing literally every difference is a nightmare, and not realistic. Even back when the original list was made back in... 2017? Was shallow despite being worked on for over four? hours? (I tried finding it again, but had no luck. I think Sudura back in the day made it before being banned off the Subreddit? That or it was on a Sudura thread.) Treating the video as a buyer's guide, I'd give it an 8.5/10 (I'd give it a 9 if you mentioned positive DS exclusive bugs like Fire Farms, and the Pinecone Bug.) Treating the video as a "what are the differences between X and Y" I'd give it a 4/10 (Since well, detail was sparse to save time, and hell, we both know listing everything is unrealistic. Granted that'd be an instant 10/10.) Either way, good video. It won't prevent questions, but it'll answer them quickly at least.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

@@K-C-D-A Yeah, it really was intended as a surface-level overview for prospective buyers, so listing all the differences between the games not only would have made the video ridiculously long, but probably would have just confused the viewers that are the target audience. I generally find that making videos like this is an exercise in the art of triage - having to decide what to keep, and what to cut. And as I have a tendency to get pretty long-winded when I start writing something, I generally end up cutting a lot of the stuff that I originally thought I might want to include.

@realtrollface101 Жыл бұрын

Easy solution: Do you have friends? No? Didn't think so, so get a single player game. You do have friends? Are you sure? Ok... get Don't Starve Together then. ... You're 100% sure? Ok, just checking...

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Lol

@zeroruno Жыл бұрын

Shipwrecked is my all time fave 🥰

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

It's near and dear to my heart too!!

@litsiegs Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for all the information! This really helped me.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Happy to be of service!!

@sera-chan8194 Жыл бұрын

Nice! New video uploaded :) life can wait, I need to watch (even though I already own all the games xD)

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I approve of this message 😁

@BerryHunter Жыл бұрын

Simple answer, both are gems and both deserve to be bought 😌

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Winner!!

@Child_murderer Жыл бұрын

Nice might have been helpful if I saw this before buying don't starve together just to then buy don't starve mega bundle shit (that has don't starve together in it anyway) for the DLCs only finding out after buying it......I'm not ok

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Doh!

@jishy886 Жыл бұрын

me who has all versions of the game and has played for years. Still watches the buyers guide tho XD Great video

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I love it!! I'll take any views I can get! 😆

@dajekotlyar4408 Жыл бұрын

Me, who play DS since 2013: oh, interesting, let's see... Great work btw! See ya on the stream!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Sounds good!!

@RichSmithson Жыл бұрын

So DST is a bit like Monster Hunter. You can play the game alone, it just takes more practice and patience.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I've never quite gotten around to playing any Monster Hunter games. They look pretty cool though!

@shfam7603 Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad the dont starve community continues to grow on this amazing franchise.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Amen! 🙌

@mellowmishXD Жыл бұрын

this guy is still replying to even the most recent comments ? :0 thats dedication! im thinking of buying the bundle on steam since its on sale rn! hopefully ill enjoy it with my brother and while also playing on my own 👍

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good plan to me!

@haru_tentative Жыл бұрын

great video dude. But I think you should add on the perks of DST is that you get an extra copy of the game that you can send it to your friend on Steam with is so nice for them to do

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

But by not putting that in I ensured that viewers would point that out in the comments, thereby boosting video engagement. You've discovered my master plan!! 😆

@gaghhuh2943 10 ай бұрын

Every experienced player will tell you: BUY EVERYTHING

@salendrak 10 ай бұрын

Solid approach in my book!

@000petar000 Жыл бұрын

The more time passes, the better DST becomes, while DS is considered complete and won't have any expansions. There's really no reason to go for DS unless you have already played thousands of hours of DST, at that point you may want to see something new like the expansions DS has. I don't suggest DS to any of my friends even if they are more of a solo player, there's really no reason to go for DS as it hasn't received any updates since hamlet and that expansion was kind of left in a partially buggy state. Everyone has a decent PC now and playing DST there isn't that much of a difference in response time if you host your own server.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

The way I see it, it's kind of like going into an ice cream shop and picking a flavor. Do you go with the current new flavor of the month that has a fun mix of ingredients and is updated every month, or do you just want a tried and true rich and creamy vanilla? Both are good choices, but to say that you should never get vanilla because there are other flavors is a bit silly!

@000petar000 Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak While that is true, DS will not get any more updates since klei decided not to work on hamlet. They decided to put full focus on DST and DS will keep getting outdated by DST like all the character refreshes that made all the characters much more fun. If DS was getting updated, i would have a reason to suggest it to my friends that have never played DS/DST, currently DST is just superior and it isn't just about the money, there's just too much content you are missing out on if you play DS. All DS/DST fans that have thousands of hours like me should play both DS and DST but for anyone new it isn't a good idea to get into DS first as there exist mods that make the game more accessible for solo play with new players like boss health scaling that mitigates most of the issues a new player would have.

@millienexu5684 6 ай бұрын

Just because I didn’t know, you can do solo servers on DST OR host / join public servers too. So you could do multiplayer even if you don’t have friends playing, plus Steam comes with two copies!

@salendrak 6 ай бұрын

It's great to have lots of options!!

@gauravkumawat7962 Жыл бұрын

I actually had this question 2 years ago, good guide

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

@quintonquill 6 ай бұрын

i was one of the lucky ones who bought don't starve and got together for free.

@salendrak 6 ай бұрын

Win win!!

@una-.__.-una Жыл бұрын

I bought every version and I prefer DST because they update it all the time and it's always challenging (I don't prefer mods because of bugs). Don't starve vanilla and Shipwrecked are really nostalgic because I bought them 6 years ago, and Hamlet is really cool because you can build houses and it has coins (oincs). I also tried pocket edition and it's pretty bad... Also, if you can, buy them for the best experience (don't starve games have the best music ever :D ).

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

💯💯💯💯💯

@Sketch_3003 Ай бұрын

I was agonizing over buying just DS (and its dlc's) or the big steam mega pack, and this video was a big help! I wasnt sure what the diffrances were or what i would be missing out on depending on what i picked, definitely getting the steam mega pack and gifting the dst copy to my friend so we can play :)

@salendrak Ай бұрын

Sounds like the best plan to me!

@CianoMaimba Жыл бұрын

This was really helpful. Thanks!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Happy to be of service!!

@shadowplanner7146 Жыл бұрын

Damn, this would have been helpful before I bought every copy on every platform-

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Doh!! Ahhh well, I suppose it's nice to have options on where to play? 🤣

@theblackhairedweirdo4511 Жыл бұрын

Been playing DSPE for a while and can't even survive more than 12 days xd

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

What tends to get you killed?

@theblackhairedweirdo4511 Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak Hordes of multiple hostile mobs as well as tallbirds and hounds but your guides really helped me a lot to make it into a week before dying

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

@Theblackhairedweirdo keep at it! So long as you're learning from each death, in time you'll get better and better!

@achmadhanif1451 5 ай бұрын

dang , you break it down to the core of the earth , tq bro

@salendrak 5 ай бұрын

😁

@scrambledripper9181 Жыл бұрын

basically I would say in almost every situation dst is the best. really the only exceptions are if you are on console and want to play by yourself, or if you just really want to play hamlet, especially since there is a mod now on dst that just adds shipwrecked along with the other thousands of mods that are amazing. even mods that add extra interesting game modes like the forge and gorge that were limited time but have been fully remade by the community and can be played at any time.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Mods really are a game-changer in games these days!!

@link0109 Жыл бұрын

just buy everything like me

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

This is the way.

@HosbnVord Жыл бұрын

Great video ! I have to admit I already had all the answers but i still watched it entirely ! Salendrak what's your opinion on this : do you think Klei will ever release a DLC again or they'll keep releasing content for DST until the game dies eventually ?

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Though I would LOVE it if they did another single player DLC, I'm not aware of any plans they have to do so, and won't be holding my breath for one.

@lostmysanity7752 Жыл бұрын

16:43 there are some mods which can change a few things so game is less "laggy" (don't starve alone is one of those) and you can even get mods that cut in half all monsters hp and can change some stuff so it is easier/better for solo playthrough. So I personally suggest buying DST and after few hours in this version decide if solo is good to buy.(i have more than 300 hours and never played in multiplayer or even past day ~45 without rolling back but still had fun)

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yup - with mods you can do just about anything to customize the game to how you like it!

@aaww1010 2 ай бұрын

I love you don’t starve tutorial videos for original game

@salendrak 2 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

@Ryntra7 Жыл бұрын

If anyone is planning to get DST on steam, wants mods that add shipwrecked and hamlet content, and has a decent pc I recommend getting a mod called "tropical expericence". While it can be laggy, it adds both dlcs' contents and a little more additional stuff. If you want even more you could also add "creeps of the deeps", which gets addition content from the other mod.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yeah, we played around with the Tropical Experience on my dedicated server for a while. I was busy doing other stuff at the time, but it does highlight the fact that mods really are a total game-changer. Literally!!

@gonetbh231 Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak You should consider Island Adventures. Developed by Zarklord who later became a klei dev and a couple other notoriously skilled modders, it is the most bug-free and 'perfect' DST SW experience you'll get. They even have a functional seaworthy that links 4-shard servers which I don't believe TE has. Currently, Hamlet is also being developed.

@gonetbh231 Жыл бұрын

Another consideration for people playing on steam is that there's already a very faithful SW port to DST (Island adventures), bugs and performance issues of which have already been dealt with. Smooth-running four-shard servers interconnected by a seaworthy are available, and it is compatible with mods like UM. Next up on the to-do list is an equally high-quality hamlet port. DS is more appealing for Hamlet and RoG ruins(wholly different experience, believe me on that). There's also tropical adventures; but unfortunately, that one doesn't have a very good reputation for reasons... (poor performance, incompatibility with updates(maxwell can't get fixed at all), interiors are pngs.)

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Interesting! I've tried the Tropical Adventures a little bit, and it was pretty buggy, and I wasn't aware of the Island Adventures one. Might have to give it a go!

@cullenlatham2366 Жыл бұрын

if there is a factor left unmentioned, it is couch co-op. As the internet rises, couch co-op is becoming a rarer feature, yet for the T in DST, it would go a long way to have couch co-op for pricing consideration, even if it was the singular advantage of console over the modding potential of PC. Probably not that hard to find on my own, but it is a key factor to consider for those who still enjoy playing with siblings, dorm-mates, party guests, etc., especially since vocal communication will always be more engaging without being a distraction compared to text.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Are you going to try to purify it fully? I've never bothered lol

@cullenlatham2366 Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak Not really what i was asking, but that does make the terraria comparison stronger if there is an evil to purify out of the world. XD Nah, i was more referring to split screen multiplayer. It is much easier to convince people to buy a game if they can share the experience with others locally WITHOUT asking them to buy in themselves, and the environment of talking with someone in the same room about a game is vastly different than reading a text log when in a safe enough spot to interact with it. If continuing with a terraria comparison, one way to make a new player is to have a veteran in a world alongside a noob, explaining the basics without telling them to take a deep dive on a wiki. As the veteran prepares the noob and themselves for progression, the noob can wander around doing whatever they please while learning the controls, and the veteran can glance over to their side of the screen and try to break bad habits before they stick. Once the noob gets hooked, they are much more likely to buy it for themselves, and it is much easier to get a noob hooked if they dont need to make that initial buying investment. The flip side is if someone anticipates enjoying the game enough to become the veteran for someone else (like a younger brother or some other person they live with), the money investment becomes time-based potential instead. Couch co-op/split screen is a very niche factor, but for those who benefit, it is a very appealing one that can make a difference between purchases. Heck, for some, they buy a game exclusively because they can share it with those in their house and it satisfies a very specific itch for co-op or rivalry based game play.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Oh, wait - I somehow put a response to a different comment on your...not sure how I did that.... But yeah, couch co-op on consoles is definitely a big factor to consider that I totally forgot to mention. I probably would have gotten DST on the Switch (the only console I own) if it had 4-player so I could play with the whole family. Maybe if we end up getting a second switch at some point I will!!

@Callypso32 Жыл бұрын

DST also gives you a free copy of the game to share /gift to a friend to help you not be alone.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Yup!!

@halfdeadprincess9075 Жыл бұрын

thanks for the video, it helped me a lot :)

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Awesome - happy to have helped!!

@newforgis Жыл бұрын

With the steam link app/device, you can get your fix just about anywhere with a decent internet connection

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I really should try that at some point...

@evaneos22 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much , this was so informative.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!!

@paradeoflaughter Жыл бұрын

Me: has DS, all the DLC, and DST Also me: what if I watch this video I bought them in a bundle during the 2021 steam sale and it was such a great choice! Started learning the game with DS+ROG, moved on to try shipwrecked and hamlet, and then realized DST had daily skin gifts so moved over to there. But I still go back to Shipwrecked when I need a break or just want to do something different. And one day I'll get through more of Hamlet. It's nice having lots of options to play!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Bingo!! People who argue vehemently about one version being better than the other miss the fact that sometimes you just want something a little different to mix things up! And whether one game is technically "better" than the other misses the fact that they're still both great games!

@VorpalTiger 10 ай бұрын

apart from predictive lag option in the menu for DST, you can also get a mod that removes the lag (only works in a single slot server)

@salendrak 10 ай бұрын

I've heard of that, but never tried it. What's the name of the mod?

@VorpalTiger 10 ай бұрын

@@salendrak its called dont starve alone, most of the lag you feel comes from cave worlds, what it does is that it disables the cave server when not in use and vice versa if your in the cave the overworld is stopped

@SpiritVector 11 ай бұрын

Both are great, dst if you want your characters to have reworked abilities or single player to experience really cool worlds

@salendrak 11 ай бұрын

I totally agree!

@Raddish-IS-Radd Жыл бұрын

so happy i didn't need to worry about this since i got don't starve on switch while it was discounted as well as getting the discount for owning the game (the original don't starve on switch) when dst came out on switch a while ago, i swear don't starve goes on discount so much it should be criminal

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

You're not wrong! I feel bad for anyone who buys it at full price!

@Raddish-IS-Radd Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak yeah but even then these games have a surprising amount of replay value tipping my hat to klei for making a fun game

@gaopinghu7332 Жыл бұрын

Finally, another video!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Not a guide or playthrough, but should still be enjoyable!

@Asteriaaaa Жыл бұрын

Great video Sal!!

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Thanks Asteria!! 😊

@nightwatch3889 Жыл бұрын

Dude I am lucky as all hell right now, the mega bundle with both games and all DLCs on steam was on sale for 13 bucks just as I went to check

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Very nice!!

@mrb5h2o3 8 ай бұрын

Great vid! Wish you didn't spoil the bosses but other than that the run down was fantastic. As I see it I'll play Don't Starve first to get enough experience to play and enjoy DST solo more one day.

@salendrak 8 ай бұрын

Would you rather I spoil the bosses, or have the bosses spoil you?!?!?!?

@benwarne189 Жыл бұрын

Got both, Love both. Just wanna choose which one to play rn

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Personally I think learning to survive a full year in Reign of Giants is the best way to learn basic survival mechanics. Once you can do that comfortably, you're ready for everything else! Though the other single player DLCs certainly do present new challenges, but that's half the fun!

@MrStimpson38 Ай бұрын

Thumbs up because I appreciate the content. Couch co-op was a must so I picked it up on the Switch. Have it everywhere else, too, but that's where I spend most my time with it.

@salendrak Ай бұрын

I just really wish they had 4-player couch co-op. Would have been full family fun for me!

@SuperDavidoux Жыл бұрын

thanks for this very well done video. I have played a couple of hours with DS and enjoying it, should i switch to reigns of giant soon ?

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! If you do, it might be a good idea to set your world so that you start in Autumn. Starting in Spring when you aren't used to Spring and Summer will be TOUGH!!

@im6966 Жыл бұрын

Buy both. They always go on sale, always. Sam's for the shipwrecked and hamlet dlc. The survivor single player doesn't have as many mechanics as the multi-player, but it's a unique harsher experience. Plus hamlet has not been incorporated into the multi-player game yet. It's by far the best dlc of don't starve so far. So yeah, pick both of them up, especially when a sale is around

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

Solid logic!!

@MaxwellE985 Жыл бұрын

i don't understand how singleplayer is harder

@voodoo5191 Жыл бұрын

17:05 this is so true. I thought I was the only one that cared about this. Input in Don't Starve is instant where as in DST there's latency to it.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

It's ever so slight (most of the time) but if you're used to playing single player, it's VERY noticeable!

@TheTriple2000 Жыл бұрын

Get Dst then get the mod Tropical Experience to have access to both Shipwreck world and Hamlet world into your base world. The only downside to this is that it takes quite a bit of time to generate/load in the world.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I've heard those can be pretty buggy as well, and not quite completely true to the original. But that certainly is one way to get a sense of the favor of those DLCs!

@TheTriple2000 Жыл бұрын

@@salendrak Yeah it can be buggy especially with the runes and such but other than that they work great! Hamlet islands can have their own seasons and Shipwreck can too.

@swilson5320 Жыл бұрын

Ive actually only ever played dst as a solo player. My so got it for me and i played solo most of the time. Didnt realize how much the boss fights weren't intended for that.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I've noticed that people who start out with one or the other acclimate to whichever they went with pretty well, further highlighting the fact that both work just fine as a solo experience!

@juliuswaxman3758 Жыл бұрын

I first heard of "Don't Starve" a couple years ago, when I first started to really get into survival games. I finally got it about 3 weeks ago for PlayStation 4. It goes on sale frequently, and I was able to get the "Don't Starve Mega Pack" for something like $11.75. So far, I've only played the vanilla version of the single-player, as I'm trying to experience the content in the order it was released. I haven't tried "DST" at all, but for the price, I couldn't pass up the bundle.

@salendrak Жыл бұрын

I call that future-proofing! 😁