I've had water cooling since 2000. Now I know what ruined my life.

Me with a water cooler: crap i guess i will just not cool down my cpu

Custom watercooling is like tuning your car- unnecessary but fun

"cocaines a hell of a drug"

I did a custom loop on mine recently. I have a Ryzen 9 7900x and an RX 7900 XTX. My GPU had a terrible throttling issue right from the factory so I decided to water cool it, and since I was doing that I might as well get a CPU waterblock too. I'd say I'm getting right around that average of 10% better performance out of my GPU most of the time depending on what I'm doing. I'm getting about 5% better on my CPU. It's much quieter too! I ordered everything for the loop on aliexpress and it cost about $350. Well worth it in my opinion.

You can't vertical mount a 4090 with huge tower cooler, this is where AIO helps.

I remember the "don't by 4k screen, it will ruin your life" 😂 I love this guy's take.. very entertaining

Watercooling is a pointless waste of money that risks destroying your pc doing it. Most people who do watercool are totally ignorant of the fact capacitors and vrms on your motherboard are designed to have airflow thats why stock coolers blow DOWNWARDS onto the motherboard.

Custom water cooling forever ❤

Just buy a cheap dual tower air cooler on bigger CPU chips and save literally $100s over an AIO. Also, just pay an extra $100 or so for a better GPU that has a better cooler. Custom water cooling has never been worth it. They are a pita to setup. God forbid you didn't tighten the clamp enough, from plastic connectors and have it leak under load on your motherboard. AIO will lose water from evaporation through the tubing. If the AIO isn't in a perfect position for low water level, you may get air pockets in the water block and overheat your CPU/GPU. Water is just too dangerous for a PC. Water and electricity just don't mix well.

Starring at my custom 9k loop… *Sips ☕️*

I have an AIO because it allows me to manage airflow better because I can install it to intake directly from outside air. Also I like that the case carries the most of the weight of the cooler instead of the motherboard.

After the Corsair water-cooler ran dry in my systems, I replaced them all with Thermalright air-coolers. System temps went DOWN when switching to air, and no worry about water levels. I really wish AIO makers would put a little window or clear tube to keep an eye on your water-level/flow. I have a Deepcool watercooler, with this feature, and it's the only watercooler I have that still works.

i have use a water cooler for years and it has run like a charm the whole time, so no water coolers do not ruin your life.

The main benefit of running custom loop (which most people don't do anymore) is that you can run hoses out of your room so you aren't dumping 800w into your room for no reason and then fighting it with air conditioning. The pump does not even need to be in the same room as you are, it can be on the radiator unit. If you run all aluminum and antifreeze there is basically 0 maintenance, especially if you run redundant pumps. You can also still overclock the snot out of a 4090 or 7900xtx...

Sorry, tried that with a stock 14900. Noctua wasn't cutting it. Hated the idea of water, but am amazed at how quiet it is now (overclocked).

You forgot a very important factor. Is that I never have to deal with dust on my card or motherboard anymore. All I need to do is clean the radiator fan. Watercooler all the way. Fuck aircooling.

aio mostly do look nicer if the hoses are just the right length but some are too long and gangly for the case...

Just connect an air conditioner to your aircooled case and vent the case back to the intake on the AC. Seal it up with foil tape to avoid condensation. Half serious.

Custom water cooling looks and performs awesome. Be prepared for frequent maintenance and time for troubshooting.

Custom loops cost a lot of $$$ but if done right will give a ton of better performance than an AIO or air cooling...but it's mostly for aesthetics...that said, if you're inclined to put the work in building one, you'll never use an AIO or air cooler again ;)

Me with my Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 AIO. Although, I’m nervous after knocking over a tall glass of ice water into the mesh top of my computer case and frying the motherboard. I thought everything else was okay. Now, my Ryzen 7 7800X3D PC is pulling 120-130W while idling, doing virtually nothing. It should be more like 60-75 W at idle. On a new motherboard.

I bought my son a 12th gen i7 MSI desktop. It had an AIO water cooler. Nothing but issues, the desktop would start making clicking noises and shut down, I presume the VRam safety disconnects were shutting off causing clicking sound. Sent it back for Repair, they replaced the water cooler, same issue continued. Ripped out the water cooler, put in a Noctua D15 Air cooler, dual fans. Not a single issue since then, runs at 60 to 80C max.

I would say Water cooling is overrated and risky. I would rather go for a sealed AIO instead. Alternatively if the CPU can handle it an Air cooler. It seems to me that the Ryzen 5’s will do fine with a regular air cooler. The Ryzen 7’s might need an AIO, however thermal rights Air coolers are really good and can handle this one. The Ryzen 9 will benefit from an AIO.

Hardware benefits from staying cooler in performance and longevity of your pieces. Get AIO'S bigger than you need keep it running at our below 50% . Watercooler is much easier to change the thermal paste on, and less likely to snap your board in travel from your heatsink weighing more than a smartcar.

I wanted a custom loop cooled pc for years. But I don't want to spend time maintaining it. And don't have anyone to show it off to.

So far i only used AIOs. I was and am really considering doing a custom loop. My reasons are 50/50 in performance and having fun doing it. However i get the feeling performance wise watercooling only makes sense, when you have maxed out all parts, i.e. 4090 and i9 right now. Cause getting a 4080 and spending 500$ on a custom loop will get worse performance than buying a stock air cooled 4090 for the same money.

I totally agree. If you have extra money, just get the upper class product !

I've had a corsair watercooler in my mini desktop since 2014, its still running fine though the pumps more noisy (all in one, not custom, customs horrid ive had it)

I kind of want to slap an AIO on my Asus dual 3070. Are there any solutions that aren't the Kraken G12?

Liquid cooling is nice. It can be a good option, but it's subject to the law of diminishing returns for sure.

plz don't put a $130 AIO on your $200 7600X

My 14900ks has a mora, my 4090 has a mora. If I go 9800X3D or 15900k Mora, 5090? Mora. Custom loops.

I think fan noise is a big factor for me. I will gladly spend $100 more to have reduced fan noise for that 6 year replacement phase.

I only got an Aio for the customizable lcd

Water cooling makes parts last longer. Heat kills and degrades parts.

I have 360mm + 240mm + 140mm with D5 pump cost a loot and not worth, well I did start from 140mm and upgrade it over time with noctua fans at 1400rpm of 3000rpm. could overclock my 5600x to 5Ghz by PBO or manually 1.4Vcore 4.85Ghz all cores locked runs 2x TDP over stock. now 5800x3d and water loop is waste, plan to sell it and get IceGiant ProSiphon Elite and pair it with noctua fans as push-pull

Performance benefits very much still exist, but today you have to be much more selective about the parts you choose that may benefit, i have just taken a 7900XT and made it preform in a Fractal North to the level of a 7900XTX... and to do that 'all' i needed was an Alphacool radiator, res & pump, fittings, tubing a very expensive FSP power supply , much work & planning, by which time i would have been happily on the way to a 4090 minus many headaches.., but that's really the point , water cooling is mostly an enthusiast level endeavour if you enjoy tinkering, want quieter operation or for aesthetic purposes or all combined and it's a step too far for most builders, which is fine, everyone who builds a PC has at least a little bit of a tinkerer in them, but it's up to each person to decide their own limits

You dont have to replace the whole aio if it fails, it's usually the fan that fails same as air cooling

Its been ruining my life for the last 10 years. I use watercooling because it looks better and i dont like having a chunky piece of metal stressing my motherboard.

Yea try air cooling a 7950x and a 13/14900k a tower cooler will most likely have clearance issues (I use an aio)

So how do you cool 13900K or 14900K??????????????????????????????

Just wanted to say that I'm still using the original CPU heatsink and fan on my 2010 build. They will last. Oh and all but 1 fan case as well.

If you have a I9-13900K or an I9-14900K you need an AIO or the CPU will Throttle down or worse burn itsefl out. Maybe the new tower coolers using 140 mm Fans maybe enough if you don't do heavy workloads.

All my watercooled PCs are dead silent. Not sure what pumps you're buying, lol....plus air cooling always has my cpu temps right at the thermal limit while the watercooled cpus are neve above 60c which prolongs the life of your components. Heat is the main killer of pc parts.

lol you should have made this video 7 months ago before I built my custom loop, but I will say this having a 7900xtx dealing with the hotspot issue and converting it to water cooling has significantly helped temps are stable with 90 to 100% utilization

I prefer sealed AIOs over water cooling

AIO extra hassle? I find AIOs much easier to install than air coolers and add to that much easier ram access, better GPU access, and better airflow in the case all add up to I only use AIOs. I have only ever used Corsair H100i AIOs and while maybe they don't cool as well as some of the others, I have only had 1 out of about 12 where pump went bad. Custom water cooling not worth it in my opinion but for me AIOs are a no brainer.

Try to get 58°C with a Ryzen 9 5900X at full load. With air cooler is impossible, with AIO it is. ATM I'd reccommend AIO's due to these results.

So, if you don't overclock your CPU or GPU, watercooling wouldn't even be necessary. I don't really understand why people Overclock their Computers to begin with. But I guess I am old fashioned!

Highend intel needs an aio to cool it so it doesn’t thermal throttle.

I recommend Aio but not customs , Aio keeps my pc cool in the southwest desert, when i build pcs for people I do Air coolers so I don't have to ever worry

I don't want to be "that guy", but wasn't custom water cooling ALWAYS not worth the extra efficiency you may get over air cooling?

I use AIOs precisely because of the looks but I would never build a custom water loop 😂 It’s just too tedious and potentially much more expensive because of maintenance and voiding warranties lol

Preferably more airflow than using water cooler. Less hassle, only use fans if necessary 6 fans will do. 3 120 mm fans or 140 mm fans better. As the intake 2 120 mm fans at the top of casing and one at the back. If nwcessary for performance simply add a desk fan. Big enough yet. With low wattage as to i crease the cooling and the pc performance Of course to keep the wattage lower use the fan for your workplace to add more air into your pc. If can I once see this dude create custome airflow path for his pc.

"Water cooling" is better fone with other liquids, and liquid cooling is just another versions of air cooling where the air cools the fins on the radiator rather than direct on the fins of the block mounted to the IHS. You never left air cooling behind. You just added to it with a hybrid system. Fans = Air even if there are other components.

I LOVE custom water cooling!!! I would much rather have the step down of a graphics card in order to have the fantastic look of a custom water cooled pc . I would do that EVERY TIME.

first off: if you're going to do custom water cooling, it should be because you're installing the best parts available and you're still looking for more performance. installing custom liquid cooling on anything but top of the line kit is pointless because you're going to get more of a performance boost by putting that money toward upgrading to the next performance bin. i.e. don't buy a waterblock for a 4080 - sell your 4080 and buy a 4090 and then put a water block on it if you want more. you should never see a custom water block on an i7, ryzen 7, etc. it just doesn't make sense. secondly, custom liquid cooling (at least to me) makes way more sense than using an aio because you can customize placement and tube routing with a custom loop, and you can maintain your custom loop better than a closed loop cooler. when a clc gets full of crap you throw it away and buy a new one, when a custom loop gets full of crap, you pull it apart, drain it, shock it if you need to, rinse it all out, put it all back together, and fill it up again. radiators should last pretty much forever, pumps (particularly d5 pumps) should last pretty much forever, so if you already have rads and a pump, when you upgrade parts, you only need new blocks for the new parts (assuming you can't reuse your cpu block with the new cpu type). tl;dr: custom loops CAN make sense for high end builders who buy top end parts, but for mid range builders, gamers in particular, it may not make that much sense in which case, I agree, I usually recommend an air cooler (the noctua nh-d15 is my usual go-to for most folks and noctua provides free mounts for future cpus as they come out, compatibility and waranty is amazing, and it cools better than most aios.

I knew water cooling was a shame. i dont even need to watch this video, air cooling is KiNg!

I water cool for longevity and not for the extra performance but that is one of the benefits especially back in the day cause heat kills computer components the cooler you run it the longer it will last and I have never had a Motherboard, CPU or GPU, and RAM go bad on me ever since I started watercooling with a custom loop back in 2012 before that I would often have parts stop working within a year or three myu i7 2600K is still working as my parents computer and it still water cooled to this day.

Still using the same H80 aio from 2012. Lmao.

Aio’s with little customizable led screens are definitely worth the money imo

Highest end air coolers perform as good as water coolers. Deep cool Assassin 4, Noctua NH-D15 and Be quiet Dark Rock pro 5. Be quiet Dark Rock pro 5 is truly quiet.

TOO LATE! I've already been doing it for years, and now I had to mortgage the house! Nah jokes aside ive got like a $2500 loop I'm building atm, shits crazy 😅

Dude look at my system in avatar, My 3990X OCed to 4.3 from 2,9 and runs at 35 to 40 C i love my wter cooling

This is so true but so much fun

Yep all the new chips are severly over volted. Take a 5800x for example. 4.8 or pbo at 1.5v. You get better perf at 1.2 volts with an all core oc. Cb scores are higher and run cooler. Intel failing hard all over the world as returns skyrocket. Get a peerless assassin, under volt with an all core oc and no more monster heat and high temps. There for water cooling is pointless.

Hi man, read this please. I saw der8auer recently testing AIO without a pump, which i found interesting and didn’t thought it was possible.

,,,and def your bank balance

true

AIOs are easy and you get the cooler performance

Next it"ll be "Dont game on PC", go Console. I thought this guy was on the Premium side. Not the Stone Age side. It's all about that Nu Nu

AIO's are good, if you don't get one with an LCD screen it can be very cheap too. "80 to 200+ dollars" uhm, no...quit buying Corsair and NZXT. A good AIO is not even close to being that expensive.

Lol aio water cooling forever !!! ❤

i got a 30$ cooler

Im sorry but, I CARE ABOUT AESTHETICS!!!

AIOs FTW.

Nah my 650$ AMD CPU deserves a decent AIO😂 don't care about Air cooling anwmore after seeing in rl that it looks better and cleaner ^^

How will AMD ever recover from this?? oh wait wrong video.

I would like to water cool my toaster please

I've been telling people alot of your key points for a while now. It was needed years ago, but now days? Nothing much is gained. And my self running a ryzen 7900x on a BeQuiet Darkrock pro 4, its gaming temps are 70 MAX. Yet SUPER quiet, can't even tell its running half the time. Mean while, I've seen AIO's barely able to keep up.

You can buy a high-end Intel & a $200 water cooler, or you can just buy an AMD and keep it cool with a large dollop of mayonnaise Choose wisely (👉 ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)👉

I often find this guy's videos annoying cos he comes across as some crackhead that contradicts himself from one video to the next... However, on this subject, I agree.. Overclocking used to be worth 35%+ more performance... Hell, I've had multiple chips over the years that outright gained >50% more clock speed!... But now, because the manufacturers are utilising boost technologies, they're already pushing their chips close to their limits, and sure enough an overclock will gain you less than 10%... I guess the only exception to this is with RAM, where tightened timings along with other system optimisations can gain you more than 10% improvement still, but that's not coming at the expense of extra heat on the CPU/GPU... Cases have also improved. Sure there are still a lot of crap airflow cases, but there's also a much greater number of cheap but well designed cases on the market now. Watercooling originally came about as a very DIY solution to dissipating overclocking heat in crap case designs. The best arguments for watercooling now are: 1) I've got a piss poor designed Intel 13900K(s)/14700K/14900K(s), where Intel just pushed more power at their CPU in order to compete with AMD in workflow performance. 2) I travel to Lan parties a lot, so I don't want to get stress microfractures on my motherboard from my massive air cooler vibrating in the car for hours. Other than that, they're really not neccessary... A well designed airflow case, coupled with a cheap but effective air cooler like the PA120SE/PS120SE, and maybe some ducted intakes to guide cool air to the CPU and GPU intakes are all that's required... (there does appear to be a bit of a resurgence in ducted intakes... this was also "a thing" back when watercooling was just starting out, obviously being a cheaper option to improve cooling performance, but I think it became a bit of a "forgotten art" for a couple of decades because cooler capacity improved whilst CPU power consumption actually reduced for quite a long period) All this being said, I am hyppocritically running a custom loop in an SFF case: NR200, 240mm XSPC slim top radiator, Alphacool 280mm fat bottom radiator, 3080 10G with dual EK waterblocks front and rear, 12700k with Arctic Freezer 2 ex-AIO pump/block, both the CPU & GPU are undervolted and overclocked, and the radiators and PSU have all Nocpooa fans fitted (with 4x nocpooa fans on the radiators and the undervolt, the PC was silent, but I thought I'd set up a fan curve wrong because I could hear a fan whilst gaming - turned out it was the PSU fan that was audible under load! DOH!... So I ended up stripping the PSU and replacing it's internal fan with a Nocpooa too. NOW my PC is silent.)

Methheads are making tech videos now?