Cross your fingers that no one in Hollywood gets the bright idea to resurrect the Slayer in a direct-to-video Doom Annihilation sequel.

"someone trolling" It's Hugo Martin, he said he would double down on the goo

They put him to sarcophagus, so that he can survive the travel to the Quake dimension.

They announced "2 DLC's during the first year included" with the season pass, that period ended 2 days ago. I feel like they had to rush TAG2 to meet that deadline and not get their asses sued. Would explain a lot of things in this DLC.

I like how Slayers new "Argent weapon" is literally just "I like ya cut G" *taco bell bong sound*

WE NEVER GOT INSIDE A MECH !! We got teased for a year and we never got inside one.

I believe with how Hugo said that “it’s not the end, there's more stories to tell with the slayer”.. this is just a ending to 2016's arc ( He also mentioned 2016's arc closure specifically in the 1 year birthday vid recently release) . Being entombed used as a time jump (just like doom 64 - doom 2016) There will be a new threat, for his battle is Eternal. It's clear many didn't read the lore that was in 2016 as well. Stated "Remember the Dark Lords names in order". We killed AN kingpin but not THEE kingpin. . Also killing their mascot in a dlc only a small percentage of people would play just sounds ridiculous, TLDR pretty much all logic and facts... and reason point to the doom slayer being just fine and will be in the next entry. EDIT: Hugo on stream was talking about prime evils and who created them/was above them. They are hinted at being the next big baddies. Dark lord wasn’t at the top. They wrote the history books that they were, but they aren't. They were barely hanging on to power. The Mysterious voice from the Main Campaign wasn't the dark lord. It was a being that's above prime evils. As hugo stated " A being from beyond". Before launch they made it clear they want to expand the world of doom. Again, This was simply ending 2016's arc. Side note about the Female slayer I keep seeing everywhere. Hugo just made a simple passing statement about how he thought about it before. And how if they were to do it, she would play differently and have different gear, and be a different person with their own story. Who earns the “slayer title”. But again, Hugo said their focus is on the Doom slayer and they’re focusing on telling more stories with him.

The final fight should've been like Dusk's second to last boss; a fast paced fight against someone with all the same abilities and weapons that you have.

As a whole package, Doom Eternal and these two dlcs left me very satisfied, despite what nitpicks I have.

I expected to fight the Dark Lord, ended up having to fight Bruce Banner inside the Hulkbuster armor.

" The day the Doom Slayer came to hell it was the most important day of your life. To him, it was Tuesday."

The dazed sound effect sounds like it’s from a Rachet and clank game.

Hoping for a Quake reboot with Trent R. AND Sonic Mayhem.

No argument about it, we NEED a Quake 1 reboot next. And get Trent Reznor back too.

Don't think it's the end for Doom but time for a new ip or revival of Quake

HOW could they make the DARK LORD a stupid mech suit instead of giving him a FLAMING PRAETOR SUIT???

You don't just put Daisy into every level of the base game only to go *shrug* about it.

I don't want him to go back in the box ;_;

Good review dude.

Final fight looks like me playing with bionicles

I liked the ending. He accomplishes the things he’s spent Eons working towards. And takes a long overdue and well deserved rest.

I actually liked the Stone Imps as they gave me a reason to switch the alternate firing mode for the shotgun, instead of constantly relying on the grenade launcher attachment.

Hugo did get his wish with the purple goo lmao

Was kinda hoping the Dark Lord would have hopped out of that suit and just went full ham in a proper Doom guy vs Doom guy fight, and just went full fisticuffs.

Id Software: You ready folks? Part two's coming out! Me: Oh god dammit let me finish the marauder fight in a crowded forest first.

The ending of ancient Gods part 2 makes me think of the Halo 3 ending. Chief goes into the cryo tube and tells Cortana “wake me when you need me” One day we’ll need the slayer again......

That new dizzy sound effect got my thoughts on Commander Keen

If I'm going to go back and play a Doom game in a year or in ten years or twenty, it's gonna be Doom 2016.

Imagine if Doomguy is stuck in an endless loop of getting pissed, killing demons and being put back to sleep, waking up in an alternate universe everytime where Earth is being invaded again.

I can't wait to see what id does next. I really believe they're one of the most talented FPS devs working today.

The second half definitely do feel rush. They should have gave this dlc a couple of more months before releasing it.

"Doom fans are not like disney fans. If Doom fans don't like what you're doing, they'll burn your house down." - Mick Gordon

Maybe the ending should've been the Doom Guy kinda "walks into the sunset" where he continues wander through space and time, perhaps searching for new enemies to kill, or new meanings to his life, while the survivors of Earth and other planes would erect statues of him to memorize his brutal prowess.

I honestly hated the final twist prior to the ending. Sure Doom's story "doesn't matter" but it *does.* They established this interesting universe, but that final twist threw out the lore in every direction. It Literally made all the Codex entries even in TAG1 pointless, which especially sucks because the lore expanded on in part 1 was REALLY good. So *SO* many plotholes opened up just due to that one massive, continuity shattering twist.

I think Hugo Martin unintentionally gave us a reason why DOOM probably works better with a vague story then one that attempts to explain everything. Or in this case, almost everything.

Imma vote for a Quake 1 light reboot like in a similar vein as DOOM 2016, having a badass hero survive horrific nightmare-fuel monsters of Lovecraftian vibe.

That new hammer sound effect sounds like Nevan's teleporting sound effect from Dmc3. A nice throwback hahah

You are correct - the troopers are in Doom (2016) MP costumes. As are the sentinels and other troops shown in the final battle and cutscenes, and they are mostly wielding D16 MP-exclusive weapons (Reaper, LG). Even the delayed gibbing animation that the troopers go through is ripped right from D16's multiplayer. It's just a theory, but it looks like they've wholesale ported most of D16's multiplayer assets at this point (basically all the costumes and weapons appear between cutscenes and the battle sequence) - combined with the fact that we're still hearing about more "unannounced" multiplayer modes, it feels like they may be porting over D16's multiplayer component. And since, despite critics hating it, D16 MP has a playerbase - larger than Eternal's Battlemode playerbase, and nearly on par with Quake Champions - even after 5 years and a massive hit to player adoption thanks to the largely half-baked critical reviews, it seems that might not be a bad thing. If they can pull over the entire D16 multiplayer playerbase, on top of the Eternal playerbase, and some minor marketing to bring in new players, you'll have id's most populated multiplayer game in almost 20 years.

Let me think of a new ending. . . After the defeat of the dark lord, we hear the voices of the father and samur discussing the victory of the slayer and the end of davoth. As this discussion happens, the slayer is cheered by the surviving night sentinels before returning to the UAC battleship where the intern asks the slayer if he won, only for the intern to get a clap on the shoulder as if to say "you did good, kid". The final scene has the slayer return to the ruins of his original earth, where he sits down and finally has time to grieve for his lost home. We finally get the text "And may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again." The end credits show a variety of significant moments from across both games and expansions.

As much as I love Doom Eternal, it does jump the shark too much whereas Doom 2016 was much more reserved. And Davoth looks like Larry from Spongebob in his 40K cosplay

Civvie tweeted he has no interest in doing a video for Eternal DLC, because he feels there isn't enough material to do a full vid. Thanks for filling that void Gman!

A single player Quake 1 style reboot or Heretic reboot would be amazing

I'm glad I wasn't the only one bothered by how the evil clone of Doomguy had to use an armored suit to fight you

Part 2 balance is perfect I think. Part 1 sometimes felt just unfair: with this tentacle-traps you can's see under water surface, monsters shooting at you from fog, etc.

Ending really was pretty bad, and while D:E may just be my favorite game at this point (even with this disappointing DLC), I gotta say I really don’t like the narrative direction they went after 2016, which was PERFECT in my opinion. I miss the tone and tongue in-cheek narrative of Doom 2016; DoomGuy went from angry Marine killing machine so badass that he became a legend to both humanity and hell - but he was still “just” a man; now he’s legitimately DoomGod who just walks around looking cool and ignoring everybody and who apparently doesn’t even have time to even be angry anymore. DoomGuy in 2016 felt like a real character even WITHOUT extensive cut-scenes as he punched monitors, destroyed lenses while Hayden cried, and beat the hell out of upgrade robots. He was an action-movie hero whose only emotion was anger and only motivation was hatred of demons and revenge. I can relate to that even if it is still inherently ridiculous; even so, I can fantasize about being the badass human marine who rips and tears his way through the demonic hordes who took everything both from him and humanity, and who expresses all we need to know about him via the contempt with which he deals with both demons and idiotic human collaborators. This man has spent 30 real-life years (not sure how long in the lore) doing NOTHING but murdering demons and cleaning up the messes created by idiot humans; the man even moved to hell for a while because only he and his rage know what to do and how to do it, so he took the human problem out of the picture by taking it to the enemy. Now, though, the DoomGuy we know and love - who IMO was perfected in Doom 2016 - is completely gone. He’s no longer a lone human marine forced to take on hell by himself, who was outside the base for the initial invasion because he was being punished for kicking the shit out of his C.O. for ordering his unit to fire on civilians (a facet of his character upon whcih Doom 2016 built perfectly... the elevator ride after the first combat encounter in the game shows that this is the same guy, the guy who sees an innocent die to human arrogance/evil and reacts by cracking his knuckles, shattering the intercom, and cocking his shotgun, ready to again clean-up the mess. Everything one loves and needs to know about DoomGuy is EXPERTLY captured in the first 5 minutes of Doom 2016. No, we are now DoomGod. The narrative tells us we are saving earth, but we are no longer the angry space marine from earth; we’re a demiGod Night Sentinel from Argent D’nur. So we already feel a lack of connection as everything we know about our boy has at best taken the back seat, and this is made worse by tje fact that DoomGod is self-aware of his own legend and invincibility, so he’s not even angry anymore, he knows he is inevitable so he just slowly walks around looking cool while ignoring EVERYONE and EVERYTHING. He is now no longer human to the point he lacks ALL emotions. Ironically, by giving DoomGod a more substantial and ridiculous backstory, they made a sparse but awesome character into MORE of a blank-slate than he was in Doom 1993 because the player cannot fill-in the blanks with his own wish fulfillment. Again, Despite still of course being ridiculous, I can imagine being an angry heroic demon killing marine, and I can relate to someone in that position even though I obviously could never BE that person. But I can’t relate to an alien god who kneels to the king of a foreign civilization I’d never heard of and who demonstrates zero connection to earth or humanity anymore despite allegedly doing everything he does to save both. But, the game itself kicks so much ass that I just rolled with it.

Anyone else notice how the falter noise kinda sounds like a Commander Keen sound effect?

Hoping for a Quake remake, which goes back to the Lovecraftian dark fantasy of Quake 1

You are correct Gman, the demonic troopers do use a multiplayer skin from Doom 2016. The weapon they use is also a Doom 2016 multiplayer weapon, the Reaper!

All good things come to an end. Like good boss fights! In Doom'2016 had all three good ones, Eternal with two DLCs had... One. Semi-good. The Gladiator.

It was almost like... Subject : Doomslayer Status: Hired Awaiting further instructions.....

I’m hoping they do Heretic! That shit was awesome!

This should have been a Heretic reboot thematically speaking.

The head bonk on the possessed enemies as glory kills already feels like cartoony compared to every single glory kill on doom 2016.

They'll definitely bring back the slayer from his sarcophagus if their corporate overlords want more money, in the exact same way they did with Chief going into cryosleep in Halo 3. Clearly supposed to be the end but the corporate guys were like "yea but we need money" so and woke him up again just a few years later.

Gman you did a great job covering this game from the beginning until now

Really gotta get to the dlc already.

the core mechanic of doom eternal, the constant need to switch to guns you don't want to because some enemies FORCE you to use them just kills the game for me, tried so hard to like it, finished once and never went back to it.

You are probably the only "Doomtuber" who's an opinion I respect. Not too critical, not too forgiving. The perfect balance of a true gamer

Love your channel after playing inward excited to see what y ok u had to say about this

that m bison "of course" made my day

Now please give Quake I or Hexen that treatment ID!

You put out a better cohesive review of this dlc than most die hard doom channels

I don't know who in the dev team decided it would be a good idea to put super mario sounds when you stun enemies

My main gripe with ancient gods dlc is the music is nowhere near the quality of doom (2016) or Doom eternal.

*whenever Gman uploads a new video* Me: That's awesome. Thank you.

What a great conclusion to one of the best FPS's I've ever played.

If you recall, when Doom Eternal was first unveiled, Marty Stratton did say that they are building a Doom Universe. I think that this game serves as an introduction to unique settings for Doom spin-off games going forward. Since people wanted to pilot the Mechs, they will probably have a prequel where you play as the Betrayer Commander Valen showing the fall of Argent D'Nur, and then, there maybe another where you play as the Seraphim or even the Father during the battle with Devoth. Also, don't forget that there are six arch-demons mentioned in a few codex entries. One of them even has concept art in the artbook which is Erebus. There are three potential spinoff ideas right there.

Gman uploads :) "This video contains spoilers" D:

I actually sorta liked the purple sludge part. More for the fact that they managed to make fodder zombies an actual threat. The novelty of that took away my frustration with the goo

Here's my idea for how the new lore and ending should have gone, do be warned that this will be very long winded: First off, the new codex entries that reveal Davoth as the creator of all things, and The Father & The Makyrs as his creations that betrayed him are rewritten. In this new version, The Father is indeed God, with Jekkad and Davoth being his first creations, and similarly to the current lore, the Makyrs were a race of computer minds created by Davoth to help him find the secret of immortality for the people of Jekkad, but in my version The Father was initially on board with this and aided Davoth by acting as the core of the Makyr system, however, when the desired knowledge was uncovered by The Makyrs and The Father, they decided it was too dangerous to give to Davoth, leading to conflict and an eventual war that ended with Davoth being sealed away as was explained in the TAG1 codexes. Now, one of the TAG2 codexes explains that a piece of Davoth is what powers the Divinity Machine, the Makyr construct that gave the Slayer his power, in my interpretation based on everything known about the machine, it was something Davoth manipulated the Khan Maykr into creating so that The Slayer would eventually come into being and destroy them. The Makyrs used it to see into the future, aiding in planning out long time scale projects like The Sentinels, but in reality these visions were illusions made by Davoth in order to further manipulate The Makyrs, which he was able to do because as stated before, the Divinity Machine is powered by a piece of himself, which he can still assert his will through. Now, when Davoth influenced Samur Makyr into bringing Doomguy to the Divinity Machine, the lore pages state that Samur reversed the polarity to give The Slayer his power, as previous attempts to imbue mortals such as The Sentinels with power via the machine resulted in death, simply put, this is just fucking stupid, instead, I say the machine worked on Doomguy because Davoth willed it to, intentionally giving The Slayer his own power so that he would essentially act as an avatar for his vengeance, he would also willingly give his power to the Marauders so that they could act as a contingency against The Slayer and as a mighty addition to Hell's army. Another detail I want to add is that the reason why Davoth had The Slayer sealed away was so that he could be released upon The Maykrs only after Davoth had taken what he wanted from them, the secret of immortality for mortal beings, information that was only kept by The Father and the Kahn Makyr, any other Makyr that had held this knowledge when it was first discovered either had it die with them or had it erased from their minds by The Father. So reason why the Dark Lord yelled "NOOOOO!" when the Khan Makyr died is because she died before he could manipulate her into revealing the secret of immortality, as Davoth never intended for Samuel Hayden to find The Slayer and free him earlier than anticipated, this led to his plans being accelerated, invading Earth early as a way of delaying The Slayer from getting to the Khan so that Davoth could have a chance at trying to wring the knowledge from her mind before it was too late, as there's no way he could ever convince The Father to share it with him. Now, with all this new lore in place, let's get to my version of the ending. When The Slayer enters the final arena with Davoth, every last Marauder that's still alive is seen circling the arena from above, initially giving the impression that you'll have to fight countless Marauders at once, an assumption that the Marauders themselves assume to be the reason Davoth brought them there, but then Davoth explains how his essence has been shared with both them and The Slayer, as two of his Demonic Troopers come to each side of him, one is carrying his original demonic Crucible, and the other has the fragment of Davoth from the Divinity Machine, they had retrieved these artifacts off screen at their master's command. Davoth finishes monologuing as he takes both items and uses them together to absorb his essence from all the Marauders in the room, explaining he will need to be at full strength before he can take over existence. The piece of Davoth's essence within The Slayer remains, though, The Slayer having held onto it through sheer force of will, Davoth scoffs at this, and states that he will just have to reclaim it by force, starting the boss fight. Now, the Dark Lord just being a suped up Marauder was kind of lame, especially since that theoretically, if he never used his vulnerable attack, he would be literally invincible, so in my version I imagine that in taking back his essence, Davoth had inadvertently absorbed the souls of the Marauders, who then aid The Slayer by forcing Davoth to perform his vulnerable attack, appearing as green ghosts that cover Davoth and pull on his body, with one even pulling open the helmet on his suit. After the first three health bars, Davoth realizes and explains out loud that isn't able to use the majority of his strength until he has ALL of his essence, rather than it simply being cumulative. After all five initial health bars are gone, phase 2 begins with Davoth casting aside his armor and burning away the spirits of the Marauders using his rage and power, growing a pair of horns, manifesting 6 red hell energy wings, and having all of his tattoos glow red with power (and losing all his hair), in this phase he'll use his new wings to fly but will still go to the ground for some attacks, a lot of which are purely energy based and mimic a few of The Slayer's weapons, he'll even throw punches similar to the Blood Punch. He carries his original Crucible too, using it more masterfully than what The Slayer had done with theirs. The only way to damage him in this phase is to wait for him to perform an attack where he menacingly walks towards you to punch you while his crucible distracts you by attacking you autonomously, you'll have to respond in kind with a blood punch, which you can only obtain by using the hammer on him while he performs attacks that involve him charging something, as all the fodder zombies disappear with this phase. After you blood punch him, he'll lose his wings and much of his glow, allowing you to do decent damage to him before he recovers, but he'll still be attacking even while weakened, even his sword is weakened by reverting to being a sort of dagger like it was used in Doom 2016. Do keep in mind that you don't NEED to weaken him to do damage, it's just that he takes significantly reduced damage unless you do so. Every time you drain one of his new 5 healthbars and glory kill him, it will show him and The Slayer duking it out for a bit while still in first person, breaking away some of of Davoth's skintight armor that he wore under his mechsuit, while also degrading The Slayer's armor at the same time, which the player will be able to notice it they pay attention to The Slayer's arms. Initiating the final glory kill after the last healthbar is drained starts the ending cutscene of the fight, playing out in both both third and first person. The Doomblade on The Slayer's left arm gets blown off by Davoth's punches as they mercilessly beat each other à la God of War 3, beating away at the last bit of each other's armor, wrecking The Slayer's helmet to reveal his face. Eventually The Slayer begins dominating the fight as he channels every bit of rage he has on behalf of everyone and everything the Dark Lord is responsible for destroying, his armor ruined and Davoth on his knees, The Slayer then picks up the broken Doomblade and uses it to kill Davoth the same way as the original version, saying "No." in response to Davoth questioning him as to whether he has anything to say to his creator as he plunges the blade straight into Davoth's heart. (Epilogue in reply, do read it as I think fans will especially enjoy what I've come up with)

It truly was a fun time. Can't wait for what comes next

The demonic troopers die if you use the grapple hook on them without you even having to fire a shot, so I always just saw them as free ammo (which they always drop) and armor drops. But it is weird how the final fodder enemy that's being introduced in the very last level is easier to deal with than any previous ones up to that point.

I hope they arent done since lore wise if you will tell me samuel sent us to hell at the end of 2016 only for us to appear near earth in eternal with a huge ass citadel without explaining shit

I feel like they made this DLC easier because they wanted everyone to complete doomslayer's saga, it was a perfect ending for doomslayer, just like hell makes you repeat your sins again and again till eternity, he is put into stasis until he will be needed to rip and tear again, for etenity

I like what you said about taking a break after playing. Honestly I felt bad for having to take breaks even though I really do like that game. Thank you for bringing that up.

Love that outro.

G man, we must campaign for a blood reboot. We have to convince the powers that be

I think the sarcophagus was its “to be continued” thing. He was awoken from it in 2016, he’ll probably be awoken from it again for the next game. Whenever the demons return

I was waiting for this >:))

Cursed Prowlers are the same as Spirits from TAG1 in my book. You have to use a specific thing to wipe them out (Blood Punch - Microwave Beam) while focusing exclusively on them. For the rest of the video, I think that TAG1 was hard mostly because of the cramped arenas. I didn't mind the two Barons encounter for example (one of them possesed), because you were fighting them exclusively in a large enough arena. The rest of the DLC felt like the cheap "throw a Tyrant into a tight corridor" (which is one of the encounters btw). If they made the arenas similarly large to TAG2, I think it wouldn't be nearly as annoying to play, while retaining the same enemy placement.

Gmanlives and dankpods are quickly becoming my 2 favorite aussie content creators

Completed this over the weekend just gone, fitting end.

Love your vids gman

Not gonna lie, when I got to the ending of Part two I really didn't know what to think of the ending. I guess the best way to describe it is that Part two's ending is bitter sweet. DOOM is a franchise near and dear to my heart. I've been on a journey with this series ever since the very first game since I was 3 years old (im 23 now). To see the way the game ended honestly brought a tear to my eye while simultaneously giving a respectful yet happy nod towards all the good times I had over the years. DOOM is one of the most epic tellings of an adventure while barely telling you anything about the story. And it was an adventure I am happy and still happy to partake even after the ending of Part 2. DOOM will forever be Eternal.

Now is the time for some Quake/Heretic/Hexen type of game...that would be pretty dope...

Welp, it was a blast. Hell, I even went though the struggle of getting all 3 Ultra Nightmare skins (on console btw) AND I DID IT. The 2 DLC was MUCH easier yea, still, I had (mostly) fun. Can't wait for the next Doom game. Somewhere in 2036 that is :(

Thanks Gman!

that's awesome. thank you.

No I 100% agree with you in the ending because theh added story I love the character and story so giving us nothing for him made me sad and he does deserve some happiness for all his years of suffering

Well, Hugo really tries to realize his statement that he wants his daughter to be able to play the game

i see a new gman video, im happy.

There is something about that outro that oozes with nostalgia.

No worries, we still have the Numerous Fan-Made Wads of DOOM, DOOM IS ETERNAL BUDDY, go figure

Didn’t the developers say something about adding more purple stuff in as a joke in the ign developers react? I guess they actually did it as a troll to speed runners

Couldn’t agree more with that point you bring up with the Conan movie.

I just hope we get more stories in this world again. The Maykrs, the Sentinels, all the lore connecting these civilizations and dimesions, I just love it all.

it feels like Eternal Campaign and TAG1 was made by the original team and then just let some random guys finish TAG2

Felt like I got a kick in the dick when I saw that wet fart of an ending. Still my favorite game though

Good stuff.

After that ending im convinced we need a Doom RTS. Like Forces of Hell vs Earth/UAC (led by Hayden) vs Night Sentinels (And maybe the Urdak/Makyr)