Thanks for the wheels! :D

Or... Maybe I will anyways! Why not!

The problem with the whole setup is really a major difference in the way the ice skate is built versus the way urban inlines are built. The answer is that it’s virtually impossible to truly emulate an ice figure skate with an inline frame, but even if you manage to get close, the ice skate blade is built by individual sizes, specifically for the purpose of having every individual size of boot match with its respective blade size. Mount systems like Trinity, 165, UFS can’t be produced in that same way because every boot size is meant to fit the 165 frame. This frame I’m using in the video is made with a 243mm wheelbase, but it is expected to go on every boot in that mount system no matter whether a size 5 skate or size 12 skate. The experience each skater has with this frame is completely different for every boot size. Let’s assume this size 9 boot I have is perfect with this frame and has the second wheel directly under the ball of the foot. That will not be the case for a size 8 and lower, or size 10 and higher. Whereas with an ice figure skate, the balance point in back will ALWAYS be past the heel and the rocker will ALWAYS be directly under the ball, no matter the size.

It's important to note that I am skating with a rockered frame already, so 4x80mm wheels on my frame is the same as 76/80/80/76 on a standard flat frame. If you do 72/80/80/80 on a flat frame it will not have the same effect.

How are 76-80-80-76 and 80-80-80-76? Details on each one please, I’m deciding which wheels to get

I have, but it’s been a long time. There are a few variations of the Hi Lo setup, and I haven’t used them all, but the ones I have used I’m not a real big fan of.

Try 76/80/80/76. That’s a standard 2mm rocker. It will make that skate more agile. The rocker in this video is a bit more advanced. If you’re just starting I’d go with a standard banana rocker.

@@DeezSkates is 76/80/80/76 save for little downhill?

Probably not good. It'll be like having a JR quad skate frame on an adult boot. Just speculating.

Shawn Hollern that’s effectively what this is. 4mm front 2mm back

Yeah. I am using a rockered frame so the center two wheels sit lower than the other two. With a flat frame this would be 72/80/80/76.

@@DeezSkates awesome. I didn't catch the part in the video about it being a rockered frame, so when I heard 3 80s, i was a bit confused as to why that was. It all makes sense now. ^_^ I'll definitely have to give it a try. My transitions are already pretty good with my current setup, but I feel they'd be nuts with that slight drop in size in the front. I'll definitely give this a try. :D

Awesome, going to give this a try also on a flat frame so it will be the 72,80,80,76 setup for me :D

What you’re seeing here is due to the frames feeling awful on the Helios. It’s too sticky and not stable because the heel is flat. I lace my Evos much tighter at the top than the Helios. I just can’t put enough pressure forward to get that amount of flex because of the unstable feel.

@@DeezSkates It's precisely why the lack of heel height must be compensated with proper forward flex. The hockey stance is supposed to be lower/deeper on your knees/ankles. The Evo is an [ankle] articulated boot (a.k.a. 'ski boot'), can't compare them with the Helios or any other one piece hockey boot. On the Evos the carbon bit stops right above the articulation whereas on the Helios it goes right to the top. So the Helios is way much stiffer in the upper part. You can tie the Evos (or any other articulated boot) as hard as you possibly can, it won't affect your forward flex that much, whereas tying a modern top specs hockey boot a la Gretzky - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mdmXgNWVrseUhZ8.html (they were soft boots at the time) is like casting your foot in cement:) Try tying the laces as I suggested on the Helios and flex your ankles a bit more on your moves, it won't cost you anything. I'm old school. When I learned to skate, the 'old' guys said the articulated boots were for wimps and I kind of inherited that. Skating on hockey boots is much more demanding and not for everyone - that's why I like them. But don't mind me..:)

I get what you’re saying, I just mean that there isn’t much that can be done to make this rocker match the Helios well. And even if I laced them up less I still couldn’t get enough stability to lean forward that far. On my normal frame setup the Helios flex nicely and loosen a bit as I skate to allow more flex, but with this rocker... a hockey boot just doesn’t work. The heel sits too low to allow fluid motion in combination with how deep the front rocks.

I love them both equally, but I have skated in quads longer than any other. Learning inlines will make you better in quads than you can be without learning inlines. 😉

@@DeezSkates I agree. I am infact better in my inlines than I am in my quads, but the ability to dance an express myself gives quads massive points for me.